McCain will be the next U.S. President (IMO)

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » March 5, 2008, 2:26 pm

One thing Nosy's paranoia ignores is the number of people who were born in their respective countries that the Soviets were able to convert/subvert during the cold war. Being born in a country doesn't mean you will never betray it. I would argue that in some cases if a person moves to a country it might inspire them to higher loyalty than some native born citizens, precisely because it was a situation of choice and acceptance rather than just the accident of birth.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » March 5, 2008, 2:29 pm

Arnold. Do you really think he's some fort of Fourth Reich Super Secret Sleeper Agent?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » March 5, 2008, 3:05 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:McCain is a great example of how you don't have to be a right wing Regan wannabe in order to secure your party's nomination.

Being a Regan wannabe isn't a bad, thing, keep in mind the current crowd in office are definitely not "Reganistas" (or whatever they used to call them.), or even remotely like it. The Cheneys and Rumsfelds were tools you used, but you didn't put them in charge of anything. Bush I had the same view for that matter.
McCain is getting the nod because they have no one else electable.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 5, 2008, 3:09 pm

McCain is getting the nod because the media pushed him on to us.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » March 5, 2008, 3:12 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:McCain is getting the nod because the media pushed him on to us.

I saw the media talking about how doomed his campaign was from the start. Then people started voting for him and other candidates started to drop out!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 5, 2008, 3:34 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:McCain is getting the nod because the media pushed him on to us.

I saw the media talking about how doomed his campaign was from the start. Then people started voting for him and other candidates started to drop out!

You see what you want to see and I'll see what I want to see. McCain doesn't inspire any one at all. No one. Not enough people will go out and vote republican in november. The only chance he has is if people vote for him just to fight against hillary or obama. Exactly what the media wants. They wanted to make sure the Republicans had a ho-hum candidate. They suceeded.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » March 5, 2008, 3:46 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:McCain is getting the nod because the media pushed him on to us.

I saw the media talking about how doomed his campaign was from the start. Then people started voting for him and other candidates started to drop out!
You see what you want to see and I'll see what I want to see. McCain doesn't inspire any one at all. No one. Not enough people will go out and vote republican in november. The only chance he has is if people vote for him just to fight against hillary or obama. Exactly what the media wants. They wanted to make sure the Republicans had a ho-hum candidate. They suceeded.

I believe there are quite a few Republican voters that feel differently.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » March 5, 2008, 5:05 pm

I wouldnt go so far as to say McCain is ho-hum. He has that whole "I got shot down in teh 'nam" thing that people idolize, I among them. His senate voting record on the other hand...

But his complete lack of media attention at present may hurt him big, as the hillery vs. Obama thing gets all the attention.

Ask any moron on the street, chances are they thing it's hillery vs obama for president. McCain not even beeing known.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 5, 2008, 5:08 pm

McCain is the only Republican candidate I would have considered this election of the top three or four that participated in the primaries. The others would have guaranteed even Hillary a win if they were nominated.

Now McCain will be going up against some hag that has no real experience except for being associated with Bill Clinton or Obama who will lose due to doubts about his ability to not be a pussy in foreign affairs. Obama inspires hope in his speeches but not much confidence that he's ready to deal with international affairs. Obama would make a great member of someone's cabinet.(not Hillary's)

I don't see Obama fading away anytime soon.

Al Gore should have run this year.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » March 5, 2008, 5:13 pm

Same is true for anyone else... The media has really taken their charge of 'reporting the news' and decided to drive it instead.

What ever happened to fair coverage? equal time? How can 3 candidates get 90% of the airtime?

I'm not too sweet on McCain, but other than Paul, he'd probably have been my Republican pick anyways... Romney and Huckabee weren't charming me any, though I appreciated Romneys business experience and self-funding.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 5, 2008, 5:17 pm

Fash wrote:, though I appreciated Romneys business experience and self-funding.

Aye. Very much so.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » March 5, 2008, 5:54 pm

Noysyrump wrote:Ask any moron on the street, chances are they thing it's hillery vs obama for president. McCain not even beeing known.

Maybe that is the case in San Diego, but don't assume that it is accurate everywhere.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » March 6, 2008, 5:50 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Noysyrump wrote:Ask any moron on the street, chances are they thing it's hillery vs obama for president. McCain not even beeing known.
Maybe that is the case in San Diego, but don't assume that it is accurate everywhere.

What, you dont have morons in Austin? C'mon! I've seen Cops!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » March 6, 2008, 9:29 pm

Noysyrump wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Noysyrump wrote:Ask any moron on the street, chances are they thing it's hillery vs obama for president. McCain not even beeing known.
Maybe that is the case in San Diego, but don't assume that it is accurate everywhere.
What, you dont have morons in Austin? C'mon! I've seen Cops!

You said to ask "ANY" moron on the street. Our morons generally know more than yours. I mean, they were smart enough to LEAVE California

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » March 6, 2008, 9:33 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Noysyrump wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Noysyrump wrote:Ask any moron on the street, chances are they thing it's hillery vs obama for president. McCain not even beeing known.
Maybe that is the case in San Diego, but don't assume that it is accurate everywhere.
What, you dont have morons in Austin? C'mon! I've seen Cops!
You said to ask "ANY" moron on the street. Our morons generally know more than yours. I mean, they were smart enough to LEAVE California

touche sir.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » March 6, 2008, 9:37 pm

California wildlife:

Texas wildlife:

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » March 6, 2008, 11:24 pm

Is it true you can take roadkill home and eat it in Texas?

Also, it looks like the consequences of California wildlife will never decompose. See you can't treat viral infections with antibiotics.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » March 7, 2008, 9:46 am

McCain is pretty much popular with everyone in GOP-land but the religious right. One would think that someone who is different enough to be exactly what we needed from a GOP candidate would be more popular, but then I guess we were wrong.

Oh wait....whats that you say? He decimated everyone else in the primaries? I guess that gives him absolutely no shot against 2 people that have the Democrats split down the middle with each side fiercely agasint the other. Good times.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 7, 2008, 6:45 pm

Well, even if McCain wins the election, America can be proud that its not going to be led by the most monstrous group of first world corporate shill fuckwit warmongerers of the last 30 years anymore. Small comfort given how much damage has been done to the place but comfort nonetheless.

Still, here's hoping Obama wins.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 10, 2008, 6:37 pm

This thread may get a little quiet with McCain wrapping up the nomination so early.

McCain was at the Suns game on Saturday and got the second most applause next to Muhammad Ali (the black superman). That's pretty good! You're never going to get more applause than Ali at a sporting even (Joe Louis was in the crowd and got huge applause though when I saw the Ali vs Larry Holmes fight in person. He died days later : (

MooZilla · Post by **MooZilla** » March 11, 2008, 12:39 am

I'm glad McCain won because he has no chance running against either of the Democrats. It's now ours to lose..

I do however think that McCain would make a great commander in chief. Unfortunately, he isn't much of an invigorating or hopeful person. "We're gonna be there for 100 years! All of the jobs are gone, never coming back! The economy is fucked! There's no hope!" Smart guy, just a bit past his prime, politically speaking.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » March 11, 2008, 1:01 pm

I disagree. I think McCain would beat Hillary, but has a chance to lose to Obama. If Hillary manages to steal the nomination, do you think all the Obama supporters will suddenly jump on the Hillary bandwagon after all the months of vitriol between the two camps? I don't.

That's why a lot of Republicans were out voting for Hillary (per Zamtuk). I myself voted for Obama (AKA against Hillary), while I will vote for McCain in the Fall. I'd rather position the best "second choice" than position someone like Hillary (gak!) for the highest office if McCain doesn't win.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 20, 2008, 8:43 pm

Important Info:

Reagan: Left Handed
Bush Sr: Left Handed
Bill Clinton: Left Handed
Bush Jr: Right Handed

Obama: Left Handed
McCain: Left Handed

Go lefties!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 20, 2008, 8:48 pm

So can any of you explain why you think voting for someone who will fight in Iraq, even if it takes 100 more years, is worth it? I'm actually interested. It's pretty nonsensical.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 20, 2008, 10:11 pm

They're not voting for McCain, they're voting against the other candidates.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 20, 2008, 10:27 pm

What is it that you dislike about the other candidates then? What are the actual issues that differentiate them from each other for you?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » March 20, 2008, 10:29 pm

Nick wrote:What is it that you dislike about the other candidates then? What are the actual issues that differentiate them from each other for you?

McCain: neck
Obama: ears
Clinton: fake serial killer smile

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 20, 2008, 10:32 pm

Nick wrote:What is it that you dislike about the other candidates then? What are the actual issues that differentiate them from each other for you?

I'm voting for Obama.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 20, 2008, 10:43 pm

Aye, sorry Spang I wasn't specifically directing that to you, just the people who are voting against Obama.

Winnow wrote:McCain: neck
Obama: ears
Clinton: fake serial killer smile

Let's hope your vote gets spoiled like the 3 million others last time round.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » March 21, 2008, 8:13 pm

Nick wrote:So can any of you explain why you think voting for someone who will fight in Iraq, even if it takes 100 more years, is worth it? I'm actually interested. It's pretty nonsensical.

So Deutchland and Nippon were both total losses then? We've been in both of those countries for 60 years now.

Yes it may take 100 years, but the whole world will be better for it, as anyone who drives a honda or bmw can attest.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » March 21, 2008, 10:30 pm

The Germans and Japanese are both pragmatists. How they relate to the arabs at all, I'm not sure.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 30, 2008, 12:43 am

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007 ... revention/

Clearly a man fit to be the President of the United States, are you all so jaded and retarded that idiocy has become the norm?

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » March 30, 2008, 1:11 am

Nick wrote:http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007 ... revention/

Clearly a man fit to be the President of the United States, are you all so jaded and retarded that idiocy has become the norm?

Nick, that actually was a very difficult question with huge ramifications for Senator McCain. If he simply wanted to pander to the religious right he would have simply said "No" to any question of government funding. It's obvious he wanted to waffle and avoid alienating any group so he did his best to evade the question. I don't think he deserves the "idiocy" attribute although he should pay an average Democrat to train him how to do a better job of skirting tough questions without actually appearing to do that exact thing.

Wiever · Post by **Wiever** » March 30, 2008, 3:37 am

I see both a social and fiscal issue lumped together. Why is it wrong that he wants to research the issue before giving a response? This clearly isn't a black and white issue as many people would view it.

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » March 30, 2008, 2:13 pm

How does he not know enough about this issue? Someone who has voted for spending on this issue has no excuse not to give a straight answer. This isn't a fiscal issue because McCain is certainly not going to cut spending on public health in Africa. Bush's huge aid package to Africa is undercut by his requirement of abstinence only education.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » April 16, 2008, 10:57 am

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbc ... 76017/1002

Don't try to pass a salt shaker to John McCain. He won't take it from your hand because it's bad luck.

The Arizona senator also won't throw a hat on a bed — it means death will soon visit the household — but he regularly carries 31 cents in lucky change in his pocket.

Now the presumptive Republican presidential nominee has converted his staff to his famously superstitious ways. Whenever anyone says something optimistic — especially about this fall's general election — a slew of staffers join him in knocking on wood.

"That's an ugly habit I've picked up myself," Brooke Buchanan, the senator's national press secretary, said with a laugh. "We were in Kansas City ... and someone mentioned winning in November, and three of us knocked on wood. We don't want to jinx anything. We're all very superstitious people."

Top adviser Mark Salter also has been influenced.

"I grew a beard in 2000 and didn't shave until the campaign was over, and I did it this time, too. That's my little superstition. I probably won't shave it until November," he said, adding that he's not sure if Mr. McCain "considers it lucky, or if he considers it an eyesore."

Mr. McCain has dozens of superstitions and rituals, many stemming from his days as a Navy fighter pilot, a notoriously superstitious bunch. He carries a lucky feather, a lucky compass and a lucky penny — not to mention a lucky nickel and a lucky quarter.

"He had so many of them that we had to cut down. It was like a change purse in his pocket," Miss Buchanan said, laughing.

Ugh... Silly superstition is one step from ignorant religion.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » April 16, 2008, 12:57 pm

I agree, Fash.

I am fine with baseball players doing that silly shit, but obsesive-compulsive behavior in positions of power is a bit scary! We already have a vice president with a twitchy trigger finger, after all.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 16, 2008, 1:05 pm

Those superstitions got him through years of hell in the Hanoi Hilton!

I'm amazed that Hillary hasn't dropped out yet. She's a cancer for the democrats as is her husband.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » April 16, 2008, 4:56 pm

I thought this thread was supposed to be about gun control...

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 29, 2008, 5:45 pm

Hillary's going to screw Obama over in this election and then try to run again in 1012. It will be easier for it to run against McCain than Obama in four years.

(this thread needed a bump!)

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » April 29, 2008, 6:16 pm

Winnow wrote:Hillary's going to screw Obama over in this election and then try to run again in 1012. It will be easier for it to run against McCain than Obama in four years.

(this thread needed a bump!)

I don't think she would have a snowball's chance in hell to win in 1012!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 29, 2008, 6:27 pm

Boogahz wrote: I don't think she would have a snowball's chance in hell to win in 1012!

But she probably thinks she would have a chance...at least enough of a chance to screw up yet another election for the democrats.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » April 29, 2008, 6:33 pm

It was funny on The Daily Show a few days ago, Jon Stewart was speaking with Obama, and asked him (and I paraphrase), "When you're elected President and you're at your Inaugural Ball, are you going to be worried that Hillary Clinton will still be campaigning?"

I probably didn't do it justice.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » April 29, 2008, 10:11 pm

Winnow wrote:Hillary's going to screw Obama over in this election and then try to run again in 1012. It will be easier for it to run against McCain than Obama in four years.

(this thread needed a bump!)

Is she campaigning in the Lavant?

Hillary the Crusader!~

Quick someone photo shop Hillary in chainmail.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 19, 2008, 7:40 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 19, 2008, 11:27 am

Glad I don't click on random YouTube links without an explanation/description!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 19, 2008, 12:00 pm

You mean like half of this board

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » May 20, 2008, 4:47 pm

with the power of YouTube and the blogosphere, we can provide an accurate portrayal of the so-called Maverick. We can put the brakes on his free ride!

anyone who types the word blogosphere in any serious connotation is a huge faggot

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » May 20, 2008, 5:39 pm

I don't know if I can take for years of that lispy hiss when he gets elected.

Hiiiiisssssssss....

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 1, 2008, 7:19 am

It's nutjob Hillary supporters like this that will assure McCain is our next president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s