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Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » May 12, 2005, 8:57 am

I got this in my email last night from a friend. It is pretty interesting and while I don't agree with everything said I do like some of the things. This will surely raise the hackles on a few people here but some I think will applaud it and pray that it comes true. I personally sit in the middle.

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WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR OUR PRESIDENT GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH? AND I WOULDN'T CARE WHAT PARTY HE REPRESENTED.

My Fellow Americans:

As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been completed. Since Congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete.

This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning.

Before me, I have two lists. One list contains! the names of countries that have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the countries listed there.

The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war.

The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption. Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France.

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home.

On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth. Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China.

To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Yo, boys. Work out a peace deal now. Just note that Camp David is closed. Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some great palaces there. Big tables, too. By the way Palestinians, we are no longer going to restrain Israel!

I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France, Germany, and Russia Thanks for all your help, comrades.

We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple of extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put em? Yep, border security. So start doing something with your oil.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty---starting now. We are sick and tired of the one-way highway.

It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, "darn tootin."

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to eliminate homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup Soccer from America.

To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you and we won't forget. To the nations on List 2, a final thought. Go to Hell. God Bless America. Thank you and good night.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier!!!!!!!!!

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » May 12, 2005, 9:02 am

So clueless. Would be pretty fucking sweet if any of it were true/real though, wouldn't it?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » May 12, 2005, 9:09 am

I take it the author thinks the US gives foreign aid out of the goodness of your hearts... ahahahahahahahaha.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 12, 2005, 9:19 am

Thank God, he didnt forget to mention Poland!

dibit_eq · Post by **dibit_eq** » May 12, 2005, 9:59 am

Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York

heh, that made me lol irl.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 12, 2005, 10:16 am

Isolationism would pretty much destroy the US.
Your country doesn't have the infrastructure to be self sufficient.

This list is short. The United Kingdom, Spain, Bulgaria, Australia, and Poland are some of the countries listed there

At least he didn't forget Poland!

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » May 12, 2005, 10:21 am

No shit, when you have one of the largest trading deficits in the world, isolationism would be your death, but I did like the gist of it

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 12, 2005, 10:27 am

Pherr the Dorf wrote:No shit, when you have one of the largest trading deficits in the world, isolationism would be your death, but I did like the gist of it

I would effect the whole world China's economy would nose dive.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 12, 2005, 11:13 am

China's economy would be far more adept at coping with American isolationism than the American economy. Their current (total) trade deficit is a fraction of America's trade deficit with China.

Cart, stick to commenting on things that you actually have a clue about. Global economics is obviously not one of them.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 12, 2005, 11:20 am

Lynks wrote:Thank God, he didnt forget to mention Poland!

miir wrote:At least he didn't forget Poland!

Look up stupid

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » May 12, 2005, 11:58 am

Thankfully he forgot Denmark. Perhaps we can all pretend that our current government lied to us and sent Danish troops off to Iraq at the say-so of Rumsfeld and his hand puppet.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » May 12, 2005, 12:12 pm

Cartalas wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:No shit, when you have one of the largest trading deficits in the world, isolationism would be your death, but I did like the gist of it
I would effect the whole world China's economy would nose dive.

Sorry Cart, China's economy would rebound from a trade embargo quite quickly, while the rest of the world would respond in kind to the USA and it would be the death knell for your country.

Imagine for a moment that the countries listed were the only ones importing US goods.

Lets take the car industry for example. The countries listed import a relatively small amount of US made vehicles. The automotive industry is one of the largest in the US. The economic impact of such a policy would be devastating. Also if the author believes these countries stood by the US out of loyalty or devotion he is confused. It was simply to garner US favor.

Canada would be on list 2 and happens to be the largest trading partner the USA has, a mutually beneficial relationship to say the least and one that if damaged would be felt in keenly.

Further to abandon the mess in Iraq now would be a huge blunder.

The author of this I can only assume is a complete idiot.

cid · Post by **cid** » May 12, 2005, 12:22 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote: If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier!!!!!!!!!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 12, 2005, 12:47 pm

miir wrote:China's economy would be far more adept at coping with American isolationism than the American economy. Their current (total) trade deficit is a fraction of America's trade deficit with China.

Cart, stick to commenting on things that you actually have a clue about. Global economics is obviously not one of them.

Ok so your telling me that if a company loses its largest customer base it would not effect them?

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » May 12, 2005, 12:50 pm

This is what happens when you send rednecks to community college

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » May 12, 2005, 12:53 pm

Cartalas wrote:
miir wrote:China's economy would be far more adept at coping with American isolationism than the American economy. Their current (total) trade deficit is a fraction of America's trade deficit with China.

Cart, stick to commenting on things that you actually have a clue about. Global economics is obviously not one of them.

Ok so your telling me that if a company loses its largest customer base it would not effect them?

Exports to the US are like 1-2% of Chinese GDP.

so yeah they would be effected, but hardly crippled.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 12, 2005, 12:57 pm

Sionistic wrote:This is what happens when you send rednecks to community college

n/m

Typical VV make a comment and the assclowns come a running.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 12, 2005, 1:39 pm

Cartalas wrote:Ok so your telling me that if a company loses its largest customer base it would not effect them?

I didn't say they would be unaffected, I said that their trade deficit is microscopic compared to the US's trade deficit. This means that the Chinese economy is far less reliant on foreign goods and services than the US.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » May 12, 2005, 3:20 pm

miir wrote:China's economy would be far more adept at coping with American isolationism than the American economy. Their current (total) trade deficit is a fraction of America's trade deficit with China.

Cart, stick to commenting on things that you actually have a clue about. Global economics is obviously not one of them.

If Cart have to stick to commention on something he got a clue about, we should get some peace from him for a while

Markulas · Post by **Markulas** » May 12, 2005, 3:50 pm

Mission Accomplished!!!!

Dont mind the San Diego skyline you see behind me!

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » May 12, 2005, 3:57 pm

Cartalas wrote:
miir wrote:China's economy would be far more adept at coping with American isolationism than the American economy. Their current (total) trade deficit is a fraction of America's trade deficit with China.

Cart, stick to commenting on things that you actually have a clue about. Global economics is obviously not one of them.

Ok so your telling me that if a company loses its largest customer base it would not effect them?

Cart, while the US is certainly a large purchaser of goods from China you have to remember that many of the products that you and the rest of us purchase would rise astronomically in price if they were produced domestically. It is because of the Global Market that production in China is necessary. Labor costs in the US are way too high

I will give you an example. Hammerstalker owns a company in Hong Kong that sources print and other goods and services in China. He recently quoted a print job for me.

Domestic pricing $110,000.00 USD
China pricing including shipping to the US $39,000.00 USD

Something in the neighbourhood of 65% of the worlds manufactured goods are made in China.

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Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » May 12, 2005, 6:40 pm

Atokal wrote:The author of this I can only assume is a complete idiot.

Atokal is one hundred percent correct.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 12, 2005, 6:51 pm

cid wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote: If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier!!!!!!!!!

Actually, being that the US was a british colony to begin with, odds are that you would b e speaking english anyhow.

nobody · Post by **nobody** » May 12, 2005, 7:40 pm

Animalor wrote:
cid wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote: If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier!!!!!!!!!

Actually, being that the US was a british colony to begin with, odds are that you would b e speaking english anyhow.

actually i think the idea of making german our national language was tossed around during the revolution. i'm not sure though but i have heard that.

edit: nevermind, i guess it was proposed but never serioulsy considered.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 12, 2005, 10:11 pm

To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Yo, boys. Work out a peace deal now. Just note that Camp David is closed. Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some great palaces there. Big tables, too. By the way Palestinians, we are no longer going to restrain Israel!

Wow, this is possibly the most retarded thing I have ever seen.

The US has been actively supporting an illegal occupation in Palestine for over 30 years. Like the fucking Palestinians deserve any more shit from your fucking retarded points of view.

Dicks.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 12, 2005, 10:25 pm

You do realize it's all a joke don't you?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 12, 2005, 10:31 pm

I don't think he does. Frothing too much.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 12, 2005, 10:33 pm

You do realise jokes are meant to be funny, dont you?

This just looks hate filled and pathetically ignorant.

Jump on the retard bandwagon a bit faster next time Aslanna why don't you.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 12, 2005, 10:44 pm

Nick wrote:Jump on the retard bandwagon a bit faster next time Aslanna why don't you.

Keep posting and it will be easy.

Retard.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » May 12, 2005, 10:47 pm

I'm sorry, I'm with Nick. I see it's an attempted humor post, and ordinarily it might be a little funny in a retarded way, but it just hits too close to the actual truth of what's going on today.

It would be kind of like Bush making a joke about killing all the Iraqis.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 12, 2005, 10:48 pm

Oh jesus christ Aslanna, yet another nonsensical irrational fuckwit rears their ugly mangina head.

I want you to get a fucking soul.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » May 12, 2005, 10:49 pm

It is time to eliminate World Cup Soccer from America.

I back this comment, although nobody really notices soccer in the states anyways, except for folks with mullets.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 12, 2005, 11:51 pm

The people that I know with mullets around here are the ones that follow NASCAR and MLB.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » May 13, 2005, 12:39 am

for the most powerful nation in world you tards sure do a lot of fucking whining. I wonder if the romans and the english sat around and constantly fucking bellyached about how other nations didn't appreciate them.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » May 13, 2005, 12:41 am

The whole thing is silly, but a couple quick comments.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war.

I wouldn't mind terribly eliminating it from both lists, government to government aid's record of effectiveness is not exactly stellar. However, talk of it paying for the cost of the Iraq war in one year is a sizable exageration. Foreign aid just isn't that big of a portion of the U.S. budget. Projec ted outlays for International Assistance Programs for fiscal year 2005 are 19.3 billion. In 2003, the latest year we have actual (not projected) figures for it was 13.6 billion. Last I heard the cost for Iraq and Afghanistan to date was either 200 or 300 billion.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty---starting now. We are sick and tired of the one-way highway.

The U.S. benefits as well from NAFTA. Although it isn't free trade as it implies in its name, it is at least freer trade than would probably exist otherwise, therefore a good thing.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » May 13, 2005, 12:47 am

miir wrote:
Cartalas wrote:Ok so your telling me that if a company loses its largest customer base it would not effect them?
I didn't say they would be unaffected, I said that their trade deficit is microscopic compared to the US's trade deficit. This means that the Chinese economy is far less reliant on foreign goods and services than the US.

Comparing trade deficits won't really tell you very much. The more important figure is the overall amount of trade between the countries and trade deficits/surplues don't really tell you much more than the minimum that number could be.

That being said, the U.S. stopping all trade would be hugely damaging to the U.S. and the rest of the world's economies.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » May 13, 2005, 1:20 am

Damn, i never thought i would get to see this, but even Atolak are saying Cartalas is wrong. Either hell froze over, or Cartalas reached a new level of stupidity.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » May 13, 2005, 10:12 am

Hesten wrote:
miir wrote:China's economy would be far more adept at coping with American isolationism than the American economy. Their current (total) trade deficit is a fraction of America's trade deficit with China.

Cart, stick to commenting on things that you actually have a clue about. Global economics is obviously not one of them.
If Cart have to stick to commention on something he got a clue about, we should get some peace from him for a while

I realize you live in Denmark and engrish is not your native language. Consider this, there is no such fucking word as commention, I do not frequent danish speaking boards, if I did I would not post, if however I did post I would make sure that the words I used were real fucking words. So how about you shut up.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » May 13, 2005, 10:34 am

Hesten wrote:Damn, i never thought i would get to see this, but even Atolak are saying Cartalas is wrong. Either hell froze over, or Cartalas reached a new level of stupidity.

While I dont have a problem with people telling me im wrong as Atokal did, I have a problem in which some people have a way of doing it.

While there is some merit into what everyone is saying maybe China wont take a nose dive, I think all of you would have to agree the world economy is effected by the US economy greatly.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 13, 2005, 10:40 am

Atokal wrote:I realize you live in Denmark and engrish is not your native language. Consider this, there is no such fucking word as commention, I do not frequent danish speaking boards, if I did I would not post, if however I did post I would make sure that the words I used were real fucking words. So how about you shut up.

Ooooh, spelling flame ownage!
You go girl!!!

cid · Post by **cid** » May 13, 2005, 11:26 am

miir wrote:
Atokal wrote:I realize you live in Denmark and engrish is not your native language. Consider this, there is no such fucking word as commention, I do not frequent danish speaking boards, if I did I would not post, if however I did post I would make sure that the words I used were real fucking words. So how about you shut up.
Ooooh, spelling flame ownage!
You go girl!!!

Weakest comeback ever. Hey look who made it.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 13, 2005, 11:55 am

Nick wrote:Oh jesus christ Aslanna, yet another nonsensical irrational fuckwit rears their ugly mangina head.

Well that's some quality first-rate flamage. You forgot to add American in there somewhere.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » May 13, 2005, 11:56 am

Hesten wrote:Damn, i never thought i would get to see this, but even Atolak are saying Cartalas is wrong. Either hell froze over, or Cartalas reached a new level of stupidity.

Once again, while Cartalas may not have a great understanding of China's economy, I would submit that your grasp of the english language is beneath even that. Please limit your comments to single words, pick your language even, but stop commenting on someone elses stupidity when you
are setting the standard.

Failing that, if you are going to make disparaging comments about someone elses knowledge on a given subject please have the decency to post your own opinion.

cid · Post by **cid** » May 13, 2005, 12:09 pm

Nick wrote:
Jump on the retard bandwagon a bit faster next time Aslanna why don't you.

Pot met kettle

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » May 13, 2005, 12:44 pm

Aslanna wrote:
Nick wrote:Oh jesus christ Aslanna, yet another nonsensical irrational fuckwit rears their ugly mangina head.
Well that's some quality first-rate flamage. You forgot to add American in there somewhere.

After much deliberation, I have come to the conclusion that Aslanna has to be female. And further attemtps to call her a man is only used on the principle that it irks her. So, with that said. MANLANNA LOLLZ. AMERICAN MANLANNA!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 13, 2005, 1:54 pm

Sylvos wins

Haha Aslanna judging flames, groovy. What a ceeerrrazzzy world!

Cid, I thought about worrying about your post, then I remembered you were deliriously stupid.

Will I pass teh next test? ONLY TIME WILL TELL!!!

Puh

Fucking

Lease

cid · Post by **cid** » May 13, 2005, 1:59 pm

Nick wrote: Cid, I thought about worrying about your post, then I remembered you were deliriously stupid.

Call it what you want, but more people are siding with me about you. Then they are with you about me.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 13, 2005, 2:12 pm

Yeah because VV is all about making cuddly little friends, excuse me, I forgot.

Not to mention you're assuming far too much.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 13, 2005, 2:14 pm

I think his assumption is pretty much bang on.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 13, 2005, 2:21 pm

Everyone cares Lynks. No really.

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