McCain will be the next U.S. President (IMO)

Siji · Post by **Siji** » October 16, 2008, 12:46 am

valryte wrote:I was a bit disappointed that Obama didn't take the chance to really push on Palin
if Obama had done it maybe it would have back fired on him
Not that we really need Obama to tell us how ridiculous a choice Sarah Palin is for VP

You were right on all three counts. Obama has shown his high level of class and dignity throughout this campaign. This was just another example. But you're not going to hear this in the talking points, you're going to hear some other useless babble.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » October 16, 2008, 1:28 am

McCain took the role of sheriff of Nottingham and accused Obama of being Robin Hood.

Great strategy!

Congrats President Barack Obama.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 16, 2008, 3:39 pm

haha Xyun

But who knows, if Obama had done it maybe it would have back fired on him somehow. Not that we really need Obama to tell us how ridiculous a choice Sarah Palin is for VP.

Exactly. The last thing he'd need is an excuse for Palin (who is rabidly anti-womens issues across the board) to call Obama sexist, or bring about the non-experience issue. Plus bringing up McCain's mortality is kind of a bummer. Sadly though, you see no one reporting on that! Though it is somewhat taboo/poor taste to talk about a guy dying, McCain made it very relevant with her selection.

Keep taking the high road Barry!

Siji · Post by **Siji** » October 20, 2008, 3:17 am

It's strange how little press Palin and her husband being found guilty is getting. Especially as a Vice Presidential nominee.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » October 20, 2008, 11:24 am

Siji wrote:It's strange how little press Palin and her husband being found guilty is getting. Especially as a Vice Presidential nominee.

I guess it depends on your definition of "found guilty." I heard quite a bit on CNN last Friday about the findings that there was an abuse of power, but they also said that no actual charges were being filed.

Drolgin Steingrinder · October 20, 2008, 12:21 pm

heh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOU9xZ4zcss&NR=1 .

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 20, 2008, 12:31 pm

lol

"Yeah, but he's still got Muslim in him."

I want to read this letter.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 20, 2008, 1:01 pm

No surprise that she's from Minnesota. Maybe Funk is one of her grandkids. That would explain a lot.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » October 20, 2008, 5:36 pm

That's some fucking powerful stupid right there.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » October 20, 2008, 8:57 pm

As much as Palin has diappointed me, Biden is also doing some fucking stupid things. His comments this weekend that we will see a "generated" response to test Barrack feed right into the Republican's strategy. I know he was trying to say he can handle it, but to ask people to stand behind him when his popularity starts to wane, based on his response, leaves a lot of speculation to be made on said response. It also lets people speculate on what type of attack we would see. I just do not get the strategy behind his comments.

The Biden stand up comment to the handicapped Senator was sad, but not as bad as it was made out to be. I don't see much difference though when compared to Palin yelling at supporters she misheard. Both were simple mistakes and blown way out of proportion.

Palin is awful, but frankly Biden is not much better.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 20, 2008, 9:14 pm

Tyek wrote:Palin is awful, but frankly Biden is not much better.

Totally disagree. I'm no Biden fan but he's 10 100 times better than Palin.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » October 21, 2008, 2:48 am

Some McCain-action!

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » October 22, 2008, 12:09 am

The look on Cindy's face as McCain struggles to find the right words reminds me of the look my grandmother used to give my grandfather when he went on a confused, dementia-induced rant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLVSURlFoQs

Nick · Post by **Nick** » October 22, 2008, 12:12 am

Hahaha, wow.

He really is totally fucking useless.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 22, 2008, 8:33 am

Al Qaeda-Linked Web Site Backs McCain for President

Al Qaeda supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » October 22, 2008, 12:14 pm

So Al Quaida wants Obama in the White House......real shocker there.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 22, 2008, 1:22 pm

maybe you should read that again Kilmoll

Here's a link to a very long NYTime Magazine article on McCain campaign choices including the decision to suspend campaign and selection of Palin as VP:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/magaz ... ref=slogin

I'll post some goodies from it as I make my way through it today. 9 pages!

Truant · Post by **Truant** » October 22, 2008, 1:37 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:So Al Quaida wants Obama in the White House......real shocker there.

Lol, you actually are retarded.

Wow, all this time....

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » October 22, 2008, 9:02 pm

He must have been thinking of his wife the trollop while he was talking...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX1ImnGQYcE

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 23, 2008, 7:36 am

Is this footage of John McCain's Vietnam captivity the "October Surprise"?

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 23, 2008, 2:12 pm

Doubtful, since you would have had to have been in Antarctica completely cut off from the world for the past 10 years or so not to know he was a POW.

Anyway, I did finish the NYTimes Mag. article about McCain. It was a good piece on the changing aspects of McCain's campaign, or as his top campaign aides have referred to them: "narratives." It explains how McCain is at a disadvantage because Obama's "narrative" of Change vs McSame has not needed very much alteration. It has remained effective, and indeed become more effective with the economic collapse that many are blaming on policies McCain voted for.

McCain, however, has had to alter strategies multiples times. Some examples: Experience vs Inexperience, Statesman vs Celebrity, Maverick vs Old Washington and the most current (and disgusting I might add), Patriot vs Terrorist. Some of these have come into conflict with each other and have clouded the campaign. For instance, how can you claim Experience vs Inexperience after you get a very inexperienced running mate, considering his age. It also conflicts with the Old Washington aspect. How can he be a beltway insider and so inexperienced at the same time.

The selection of Palin undermines the celebrity argument as well, since she has been hoisted into the limelight to the same extent, if not further, as Obama. One campaign aide is even quoted as her being a celebrity.

The Terrorist, "who is this guy?," argument seems to work, but when considering Obama's main argument against policies of old, it could play into his hands. McCain's tactics of recent are definitely Rove-esque, to say the least. There has been press that has linked Rove to the campaign directly, though the sources are less than stellar (IE Rolling Stone).

Anyway its worth the read and gives a lot of insight into the actual process of how Palin was selected. And apparently a lot of decisions are made at some unnamed bar. Not surprising. If you see "The War Room" ever a lot of campaign meetings involved coolers of beer.

One nugget:

“The way you pick a vice president is, you get a frame of Time magazine, and you put the pictures of the people in that frame. You look at who fits that frame best — that’s your V. P.”

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 23, 2008, 2:23 pm

I hope Winnow tells us when the "October Surprise" happens. I'd hate to miss it!

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » October 23, 2008, 7:54 pm

hahaha Kwon. That just made my day.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 23, 2008, 10:24 pm

still have a week left!

wait for it......

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » October 23, 2008, 10:56 pm

Winnow wrote:still have a week left!

wait for it......

too late, I already voted.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 23, 2008, 10:58 pm

Xyun wrote:
Winnow wrote:still have a week left!

wait for it......
too late, I already voted.

Votes cast early will be lost in the shuffle.

Edit: Grats on your first presidential election vote though!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 24, 2008, 1:30 am

I'm waiting until Super Tuesday to cast my very first vote. Living in the extremely non-racist state of Tennessee, I hope I don't get lynched by some ignorant rednecks.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 25, 2008, 12:08 pm

John isn't the only McCain with anger problems.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » October 25, 2008, 10:31 pm

Apparently he was jealous of posters here comparing Obama to Carter and not wanting to let Obama have the upper hand, he wanted to show that he could be compared to Carter too.. "See, I have a fucktard brother just like Carter!"

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 26, 2008, 1:58 am

McCain in 2000:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/22/mcc ... -tax-cuts/

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 26, 2008, 1:58 am

Siji wrote:Apparently he was jealous of posters here comparing Obama to Carter and not wanting to let Obama have the upper hand, he wanted to show that he could be compared to Carter too.. "See, I have a fucktard brother just like Carter!"

And Clinton. That Roger was a tool.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 26, 2008, 4:11 am

Obama fanbois must be worried. Out in full force with some petty bashing!

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » October 26, 2008, 8:53 am

Winnow wrote:Obama fanbois must be worried. Out in full force with some petty bashing!

You realize that not only the article is a Fox News article, but that no one from the Obama campaign is mentioned in it, right? It also appears that the one person most vocal about all this is Joe himself.

I think you need to take a few deep breaths and stop letting your hysteria over Mccain dragging in the polls affect your reading comprehension and deductive skills.

No matter what happens, IT'S GOING TO BE O.K.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » October 26, 2008, 1:19 pm

It must be really bad when David Frum turns his back on you...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... nt/outlook

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » October 27, 2008, 3:00 pm

Joe McCain is weird looking.

I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » October 27, 2008, 3:10 pm

Gratz Xyun on your first presidential vote. I voted already too. I really like the mail in voting process, I can take my time on the ballot. Really research the props and some of the people, but frankly this time I voted against every single incumbent as a statement I was unhappy with their performance. If no one ran against them, I still voted against them.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » October 27, 2008, 10:23 pm

I voted straight democrat all the way down the ticket. On non-partisan seats I voted against every incumbent. On Florida amendments I voted the liberal side on all 6 questions, including gay marriage.

Oh, and I wore this shirt to the voting booth:

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » October 28, 2008, 12:11 am

Xyun wrote:I voted straight democrat all the way down the ticket. On non-partisan seats I voted against every incumbent. On Florida amendments I voted the liberal side on all 6 questions, including gay marriage.

Oh, and I wore this shirt to the voting booth:

A lot of those democratic incumbents are just as reponsible for our problems today as many of the Republican incumbents. It is time for a house cleaning and I personally think it should not be done solely on party lines.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » October 28, 2008, 1:02 am

None of the major office incumbents in my district were democrats. There might be some real far down the ballot, but all the national or state offices on my ballot are held by a republicans. The real local stuff I'm not too sure about. I went Dem just to be safe.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » October 30, 2008, 5:01 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/3 ... 39300.html

Poor senile old John.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 30, 2008, 5:09 pm

John McCain is depriving those children of their education, and to make the crowd seem bigger? Are you kidding me?

Fuck John McCain!

miir · Post by **miir** » October 30, 2008, 5:19 pm

A poll showing McCain closing the gap on Obama!

As the candidates make their closing arguments before the election, the race has tightened with Barack Obama now leading John McCain by 47 percent to 44 percent among likely voters, according to a ~~FOX News~~ definately NOT fox news poll released Thursday. Last week Obama led by 49-40 percent among likely voters.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » October 30, 2008, 6:20 pm

CNN was quoting a poll yesterday that was 50 - 47 (4% margin of error). I was surprised to hear it was that close. They quote several polls, and I cannot remember which this was.

Found some info with the average lead being 6.2% for Obama here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... ional.html

Spang · Post by **Spang** » October 31, 2008, 2:21 am

McCain has stupid people on his campaign like Joe the Fraud, and this guy!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 31, 2008, 4:16 am

Yes.. that guy. And I tihnk we all know who we're talking about!

laneela · Post by **laneela** » October 31, 2008, 6:41 am

I know Tito the Builder also strongly backs McCain and that guy's a tool.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » October 31, 2008, 12:04 pm

Xyun wrote:I voted straight democrat all the way down the ticket. On non-partisan seats I voted against every incumbent. On Florida amendments I voted the liberal side on all 6 questions, including gay marriage.

Wow! In other words you voted just like "I never research the issues, I just vote a straight party line ticket" assholes. Way to go, Xyun! You've fully assimilated as a USAdian!!!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 31, 2008, 3:46 pm

I too, voted straight Democrat, unless the GOP candidate had a sweet nickname like "Bubba" or something on the ballot.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » October 31, 2008, 5:35 pm

I amy go straight Democrat for the first time in my voting lifetime.

Post by **Sylvus** » October 31, 2008, 5:40 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:I amy go straight Democrat for the first time in my voting lifetime.

Just make sure you vote Yes on proposals 1 and 2!