VV Election Poll - August 2008

[Xatrei]

I'm stupid because I think the show you guys all love so much is retarded. Seriously, you guys bullshit never gets old.

Not liking the show is not what makes you stupid. The fact that you can't understand this is.

[Truant]

I'm stupid. Seriously.

On this, we can agree!

[Forthe]

Stewart is one of the few and probably the first that stopped being a pussy and started making fun of Obama.

Palin gave a good speech, she doesn't have a good voice but her she knows how to deliver it. Rudy went off like a crazy man and bumped her video which would have helped.

[Funkmasterr]

I'm stupid because I think the show you guys all love so much is retarded. Seriously, you guys bullshit never gets old.

Not liking the show is not what makes you stupid. The fact that you can't understand this is.

I understand his deal, but I think it's fucking stupid and obnoxious, and him getting pissy about stuff removes any chance of me finding any little piece of entertainment value in it. Pretty simple.

[*~*stragi*~*]

Oh no I've been pwned by the mighty *yawn*. Excellent work!

The best part is you actually pwned yourself by using a tired, recycled insult! I should be the one congratulating you!

Speaking of pwning one's self, the Republicans seem to be doing an amazing job of it lately.

(seriously, watch that clip. it's phenomenal)

I watched the first 1.5 minutes, it's all I could stomach. John Stewart is a ignorant, arrogant, obnoxious prick and to be honest has no business even being on television..

As far as I got in the video - he was trying to point out hypocrisy in what Rove said.. Although there was no hypocrisy, he was speaking on experience as a mayor, Palin is now governor.

Seriously, find something better to do. There are a million things about Obama that are laughable and pathetic beyond anything you could dig up on Palin.

please just stop

[*~*stragi*~*]

His show might be a little funnier to me if he didn't make it so damn obvious that he is pissed off about a lot of the stuff he touches on.. There's no place for that in his field of entertainment, imo. Report the news, make a wisecrack here and there, but leave it at that..

It's political comedy.
Both liberals and conservatives love his show.
You obviously have no sense of humor whatsoever.

You still aren't touching on my point.. He gets visibly pissed off when he talks about a lot of the stuff on his show. That's not appropriate, nor is it in any way funny.

are you confusing jon stewart with lewis black?

[Funkmasterr]

No lewis black is funny, because that's his thing. He is always riled up, and I think it's mostly for the show.

John Stewart on the other hand seems to me like deep down the injustice of the republicans is just too much for him not too unlike people here on vv. It does not amuse me to listen to a dude crack jokes about things I probably don't agree with him on, and on top of it he's really riled up about it.. It's about as fun as debating with most of the people here on VV (read: not fun at all.)

[Canelek]

You still aren't touching on my point.. He gets visibly pissed off when he talks about a lot of the stuff on his show. That's not appropriate, nor is it in any way funny.

Yes, because he is a news anchor, rite?? He totally doesn't "act" or anything.

I think what happens is that you end up watching his show more than you will admit, becoming more and more upset because you think it is real. You harbor so much animosity towards TV personalities, union workers, protestors and fellow shoppers.... that is sure recipe for an ulcer there scooter.

[Aslanna]

Are people seriously arguing with Funk because he doesn't like The Daily Show/Jon Stewart? He doesn't like it because he's a moron. Case closed now move on!

[Canelek]

Here is some more political satire (Winnow should approve):

McCain Speechwriter Trying To Write Lines That Don't Lead To Creepy Smile

PHOENIX, AZ—According to campaign sources, Joseph Chappel, a 38-year-old speechwriter for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), has spent the last two weeks attempting to combine words and phrases in such a way as to not provoke a tight-jawed, dead-eyed smile from the presidential hopeful. Dreading a repeat of last month's speech to a group of businesswomen in Ohio, during which McCain followed a mention of his wife with an awkward and eerie smirk, Chappel has avoided personal anecdotes for the new speech, omitted any mention of "God" or "this great nation," and cut several phrases that had the potential to draw the 72-year-old candidate's mouth open in a horrifying display of teeth and gums.

"I've managed to make two out of every three sentences a question, but I'm not sure that will help," Chappel said shortly after deleting an introductory paragraph in which McCain welcomes the crowd. "Jesus, that [smile] makes me feel cold inside."

Chappel told reporters that if he is not able to write an appropriate, smile-free speech in time for the Republican National Convention, he will resign his position and return to his previous job, taking photographs of abused children for police reports.

Of course, writers at The Onion should also be ashamed of themselves!

[Forthe]

Jon Stewart's show last night was classic. So much hypocrocy. At the same time it is pretty sad when a comic reports this and the media is blind to it.

[Funkmasterr]

You still aren't touching on my point.. He gets visibly pissed off when he talks about a lot of the stuff on his show. That's not appropriate, nor is it in any way funny.

Yes, because he is a news anchor, rite?? He totally doesn't "act" or anything.

I think what happens is that you end up watching his show more than you will admit, becoming more and more upset because you think it is real. You harbor so much animosity towards TV personalities, union workers, protestors and fellow shoppers.... that is sure recipe for an ulcer there scooter.

I usually catch the tail end of the show because my girlfriend likes to watch the Colbert Report. See, Stephen Colbert can still do the funny commentary on things without getting bent out of shape, and he's actually funny.

The few lines that I usually do catch from Stewart don't strike me as entertaining or funny at all, they usually leave me wishing someone would punch him in the throat.

Edit: And yes, I do hate a lot of (most) people. I honestly hate people in general, society makes me sick and I think a part of the reason I come here to VV is to remind me of this daily. If that gives me a ulcer, I guess that's life, smart ass.

[Xyun]

Funk doesn't believe in being angry about something and using a platform to display it. It is beneath him.

[Tyek]

Stewart was also the first to point out on TV that Hillary does not answer tough questions, she laughs instead. He points out the hypocrasy of both parties and made fun of the Democrats last week. As sad as it is, he may be the least biased "News" source out there.

[Nick]

I don't think Funkmasterr understands that comedy doesn't just have to be lowest common denominator situational garbage and that comedians often use comedy as a platform for their beliefs or opinions. Welcome to a basic understanding of comedy.

[Nick]

Back on topic. Anyone who calls themselves a republican after this convention really must just be actually a retard. Or a fascist. The way these people talk is completely un-human.

Cindy McCain is like an evil soccer mom cyborg intent on ruining America. She can't even read out loud convincingly without sounding jarring and mechanic. This convention will be globally studied for decades to come. As an example of the last fatal rise of the neoconservative fascist American right wing. Exploiting the dead of 9/11 was never a problem for Republicans, but that was just fucking sick. How any American could vote for them after they display such a disgustingly shameful disregard for their fellow innocent countrymen who died on that day is an absolute mystery to me. Really depressing.

[Winnow]

Nick has some sort of American Politics fetish. Kinky.

[Nick]

Yep, I'm interested in American politics. It's fascinating. America is a fascinating country. I know idiots like you tend to just oneliner me into some boogyman one issue potato eating drunken foreigner, but that just really says a lot more about your inability to interact with people outside the US without immediately resorting to childish, disgusting, small and embarrassing open bigotry.

This election is of course important. To everyone in the world. And not because everyone in the world "envy's" America as the Republicans and Obama would have you believe, but because we don't really want to see a repeat of the displacement of millions and deaths of hundreds of thousands again by the presumptive "most enlightened nation" as we approach the second decade of the century. Unlike you, some of us give a shit about people who werent just born in America.

I've been shocked by the Republican convention. I would actually invoke Godwin's if it wasn't so taboo on this board. Legitimate criticism or otherwise. Conveniently for America. It wouldn't even be hyperbole. It could be backed up by critical analysis.

I'll be the first to admit it, Ireland is only a little country. But I don't see how that invalidates my opinion on affairs that affect all of us, be it directly, indirectly, morally, personally or philosophically. Winnow, listening to you would lead people to believe that they can only have an opinion if their parents fucked on American soil.

I know you only post ironically in CE. Yet it is really deeply worrying that you would vote for this pack of assholes. I really cannot understand your motivations at all. Funk, Fash, Midnyte etc, they're just morons. You however appear to just want to troll your own country to death. I really don't get it.

Edit: I'd also add that Northern Ireland was right there beside you at the start of Iraq. The war on Iraq was instigated by "The USA, Spain and The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Go watch the speeches given on the first day of the invasion to the UN by any American or British politician. If you think Northern Ireland is irrelevant, you obviously don't give a flying shit about your allies. We wrote you a large check, your repayment of xenophobic potato remarks, which are simply racist, and typical of the discourse of morons, even when done ironically, will have future consequences. Not militarily, but in basic human compassion terms, friendship, ally, brother. If that's irrelevant to you, that's fine, but don't come crying to us next time you get 911'd.

It saddens me to say it, but, it appears to be what you want.

[*~*stragi*~*]

You know, a great big giant troll is a pretty good description of the entire electoral process at this point. It's kind of like a horse and pony show. You see it and think, "oh sweet a horse and pony show I'll take the kids!" only once you and the family are situated they lock you in the tent the horse proceeds to violently rape the pony to death. For months.

Fuck yeah election season.

[Nick]

Agreed.

McCain seems to be having a little trouble controlling the crowd. of 10000. Obama didn't have that problem. I don't that disqualifies him from having the credentials to be President. His policy's and choice of VP make up for that. But it's an interesting observation.

[*~*stragi*~*]

I'd also like to point out that FX is airing X-men again and I'm watching it, again.

[Nick]

get a job you pinko commie layabout!

Edit: McCain sounds like that friendly old grandad who everyone loves, except he sexually abuses his grandkids. (ha, ok, cheap shot, I know, I just like the analogy).

He's totally lacked substance so far in this speech and is choosing smear over issues. Also lied about Obama raising taxes and increasing government spending.

Edit: Woops! Bah image wont show.

[Nick]

Holy table breakage!

[*~*stragi*~*]

get a job you pinko commie layabout!

Edit: McCain sounds like that friendly old grandad who everyone loves, except he sexually abuses his grandkids. (ha, ok, cheap shot, I know, I just like the analogy).

He's totally lacked substance so far in this speech and is choosing smear over issues. Also lied about Obama raising taxes and increasing government spending.

i just worked 10 hours and got home from the gym

fact: i parked next to the retired cards dude who they used stock footage of for cuba gooding jr playing football in whatever that gay show me the money movie was.
i also bench pressed next to amare like two weeks ago or so and saw matt leinert in the locker room the next day.

my gym is neat

[Nick]

My gym is also sweet. My GF works there That is a little bit hot.

McCain lies about Obama wanting education to be answerable to Unions. And Obama's stance on Nuclear power. WTF? Who buys outright lies? Still, McCain is making me slightly less paranoid about the horrific nature of his associates. Apart from legitimately judging him by the company he keeps, this is a really fucking awesome speech. Nullified by the lies. Unfortunately. Why he gotta play a brother like that? He can't complain about "Partisan rancor" whilst allowing the last few nights Republican speeches. Hypocritical. Confusing why he would even go there. Using his "tortured" credentials whilst voting for torture of others? Despicable.

The republican ticket is banking on "Country first", and no Republicans seem to realise the socialist implications of such a thing? (Kilmoll). Pretty hilarious.

Edit: Just realised I have a big 5k posting star. Weeee!

[Bubba Grizz]

One of the big debates or points being brought up in this event is the fact that the US isn't drilling in its own territory. From what I understand, just from the commericals mind you, the Republicans want to drill whereas the Democrats refuse to allow it. Can anyone explain what the real problem here is? I mean I understand that this is most likely a ploy for distraction by the Republicans but is there any reason why we can't or shouldn't drill for oil here?

[Funkmasterr]

One of the big debates or points being brought up in this event is the fact that the US isn't drilling in its own territory. From what I understand, just from the commericals mind you, the Republicans want to drill whereas the Democrats refuse to allow it. Can anyone explain what the real problem here is? I mean I understand that this is most likely a ploy for distraction by the Republicans but is there any reason why we can't or shouldn't drill for oil here?

I believe the objection generally has to do with where the oil we want to drill is located. People were up in arms about "destroying the Alaskan wilderness to drill", even though the proposed place to drill was in the far north reaches of Alaska where only the craziest of wilderness freaks would even dream about going..

I'm sure there is more to it than that, but I think that's at least a big part of it.

I for one have no problem with it, I think the faster we get moving on getting the infrastructure set up to start drilling and refining, the better. I would also want to make it clear that while I do support us drilling to be as independent as possible (I think that our drilling coupled with the oil we import from Canada and Mexico would be sufficient) - I don't want this to be the "fix". I do still want as much money as possible put into R&D of other energy sources.

I don't think we will ever completely stop using oil, but if we can find alternate ways to fuel the majority of our stuff by other means, I would be happy.

[Truant]

It also has a little to do with the fact that if we don't drill all our oil. We can sit around and charge kabillions of dollars when other countries have exhausted all their reserves/supplies.

[Winnow]

It also has a little to do with the fact that if we don't drill all our oil. We can sit around and charge kabillions of dollars when other countries have exhausted all their reserves/supplies.

That's why we buy cheap oil from Canada. Enjoy your fancy igloos while you can!

[Funkmasterr]

It also has a little to do with the fact that if we don't drill all our oil. We can sit around and charge kabillions of dollars when other countries have exhausted all their reserves/supplies.

Good point, that never occurred to me.

[Sylvus]

Meanwhile, we're getting charged slightly less than kabillions of dollars for oil from the people who are drilling, while our drillers sit on their hands and lobby Congress for more land to drill on. At least when the others run out, and US oil companies are charging their kabillions, I'm sure they'll pass the savings onto us.

Actually, demand for oil will probably be much lower then, it's not like you'll want to take that summer trip to the coast when the coastline is nothing but oil rigs.

[*~*stragi*~*]

I happen to think oil rigs are cool and I heard that there is good fishing to be had around oil rigs so you just got uninvited from my vacation sylvus

[Truant]

Oh Sylvus, I agree...it's not the best idea, and I don't agree with it at all. I was just pointing it out.

[Forthe]

One of the big debates or points being brought up in this event is the fact that the US isn't drilling in its own territory. From what I understand, just from the commericals mind you, the Republicans want to drill whereas the Democrats refuse to allow it. Can anyone explain what the real problem here is? I mean I understand that this is most likely a ploy for distraction by the Republicans but is there any reason why we can't or shouldn't drill for oil here?

You have environmental issues, spills are hard to cleanup. Look at Alaska, almost 20 years later and they still have oil in the soil.

Then you have the issue that it won't make a difference for anyone but the Oil companies. According to current stats the US cannot produce enough new oil to substantially impact the world oil market.

You also have to understand that Oil companies are in no rush to open up the spigot and lower their profit margins (Nor can they really do so, there isn't much free capacity).

This is even more the case with the OPEC countries. Even if we raise production domestically they can just cut back on their own production to keep their margins high, it is in their long term national interests to do so. Iran is currently calling for cuts in production because of the latest price drops.

Then you have to look at the growth curve. India and China's oil usage is growing fast. We will be lucky if world production is even able to keep up.

We can choose to DRILL HERE DRILL NOW just like we did in the 70s but you should expect the same result; more dependence, more wars, higher prices and many more rich middle eastern countries.

[Deward]

Democrats also oppose drilling because they want to push us towards researching and using more alternative energy methods. If we just opened drilling everywhere then there would be no incentive for that research.

[Funkmasterr]

Democrats also oppose drilling because they want to push us towards researching and using more alternative energy methods. If we just opened drilling everywhere then there would be no incentive for that research.

That's totally not the case. For one, alternate sources of energy have been being researched for decades. Second, the oil isn't going to last us forever, and even though that point is probably far in the future, that's no reason to wait.

[masteen]

Winnow votes Neocon because he is a trust fund party darling who would be deeply affected if the inheritance or capital gains taxes were raised. At least he's voting in his own financial self-interest, which is more than the mouth-breathing trailer-trash in places like West Virginia and Kansas can say.

[Zaelath]

Winnow votes Neocon because he is a trust fund party darling who would be deeply affected if the inheritance or capital gains taxes were raised. At least he's voting in his own financial self-interest, which is more than the mouth-breathing trailer-trash in places like West Virginia and Kansas can say.

Yeah, this is one of the things I'd always found deeply disturbing... that the right could so consistently convince blue collar workers giving the super-rich money, is good for them.

If you're going to base your company's location on tax rate, is McCain going to beat 0%?

[Bagar-]

Oh no I've been pwned by the mighty *yawn*. Excellent work!

The best part is you actually pwned yourself by using a tired, recycled insult! I should be the one congratulating you!

Speaking of pwning one's self, the Republicans seem to be doing an amazing job of it lately.

(seriously, watch that clip. it's phenomenal)

I watched the first 1.5 minutes, it's all I could stomach. John Stewart is a ignorant, arrogant, obnoxious prick and to be honest has no business even being on television..

As far as I got in the video - he was trying to point out hypocrisy in what Rove said.. Although there was no hypocrisy, he was speaking on experience as a mayor, Palin is now governor.

Seriously, find something better to do. There are a million things about Obama that are laughable and pathetic beyond anything you could dig up on Palin.

Oh man... see you're doing it again.

You couldn't stomach the video because it disagreed with your own personal views and beliefs, and you can't handle anyone questioning you. That's something you could come to terms with and not try to distort.

Now secondly, you state that there are "a million things about obama that are laughable...etc." and yet you can't find them. So it's irrelevant.

You're basically staring at blatent right-wing hypicrisy and you're saying "OH WELL BUT YOU GUYS ARE HYPOCRITICAL TOO" and completely ignoring the issue at hand, without providing any other sources of information besides your own errant screaming.