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If every liberal decides to leave the US if McCain wins, this is going to be a LANDSLIDE victory for McCain. God I hope it is true and all you bleeding heart nancy fags up and vacate to whatever utopia you think is out there.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:If every liberal decides to leave the US if McCain wins, this is going to be a LANDSLIDE victory for McCain.
Uh.. They wouldn't be leaving until after he won. So how would that contribute to his victory? I think I'm missing something here!
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I think he believes that the prospect of getting rid of all of us sodomite-loving, gun-hating, god-mocking, big-government, pinko libruls will bring out the hick neanderthal constituency in force.

Did anyone else notice the massive amount of empty seats in the Xcel Center last night? On MSNBC, they showed a "protester" being escorted out of the place by security thugs during Palin's speech, and they walked her past row after row of nearly empty and empty seats.
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The ultra liberals that threaten to leave the country would swing the moderate vote to McCain. Not many can handle the full time whining of a liberal.
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Xatrei wrote:I think he believes that the prospect of getting rid of all of us sodomite-loving, gun-hating, god-mocking, big-government, pinko libruls will bring out the hick neanderthal constituency in force.

Did anyone else notice the massive amount of empty seats in the Xcel Center last night? On MSNBC, they showed a "protester" being escorted out of the place by security thugs during Palin's speech, and they walked her past row after row of nearly empty and empty seats.
There were not massive amounts of empty seats in the convention I watched, assuming we watched the same thing. There were some, but saying "massive amounts" is a gross exaggeration.

I hope that all the asshole protester/Rioting assholes were absolutely brutalized by the police that arrested them, I really do.
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Peaceful protesting is guaranteed by the Constitution by like.. the very first Amendment and stuff. It's no surprise that you have no regard for that. Now, that doesn't mean they can't be escorted from private premises but it surely doesnt mean that they should get whacked with a billyclub for doing it. That's not the job police are paid by the public to be doing.

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(Note I said 'peaceful protesting' before you type up your retarded response. If there was any sort of "rioting" then that's not quite what I'd consider protected speech)
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Aslanna wrote:Peaceful protesting is guaranteed by the Constitution by like.. the very first Amendment and stuff. It's no surprise that you have no regard for that. Now, that doesn't mean they can't be escorted from private premises but it surely doesnt mean that they should get whacked with a billyclub for doing it. That's not the job police are paid by the public to be doing.

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(Note I said 'peaceful protesting' before you type up your retarded response. If there was any sort of "rioting" then that's not quite what I'd consider protected speech)
That's exactly the point, when does this peaceful protesting occur? In nearly every protest/rally/whatever I have ever seen or read about, someone doing the protesting steps out of line, because that somehow helps their point? When people cross these lines and are no longer peaceful, or start rioting, they should be brutally beaten and left laying in the street.
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In nearly every protest/rally/whatever I have ever seen or read about, someone doing the protesting steps out of line, because that somehow helps their point?
Um, no shit. That's what protesting is.

Do you not know the history of this country. This i the kind of shit our forefathers championed above almost all ideals.

I find your opinion disrespectful and frankly, un-american.
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Aslanna wrote:Peaceful protesting is guaranteed by the Constitution by like.. the very first Amendment and stuff. It's no surprise that you have no regard for that. Now, that doesn't mean they can't be escorted from private premises but it surely doesnt mean that they should get whacked with a billyclub for doing it. That's not the job police are paid by the public to be doing.

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln

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(Note I said 'peaceful protesting' before you type up your retarded response. If there was any sort of "rioting" then that's not quite what I'd consider protected speech)

An Obama supporter has zero rights to point to constitutional rights on any matter. The man you are supporting wants to violate certain amendments and given his way he would have the entire thing changed to suit his views a la the "living constitution". I guess 200 years of a document are enough and when you are Obama you should be able to change the country's founding documents to suit you!
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Aslanna wrote:
Peaceful protesting is guaranteed by the Constitution by like.. the very first Amendment and stuff. It's no surprise that you have no regard for that. Now, that doesn't mean they can't be escorted from private premises but it surely doesnt mean that they should get whacked with a billyclub for doing it. That's not the job police are paid by the public to be doing.

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln

Go Abe whoooo!


(Note I said 'peaceful protesting' before you type up your retarded response. If there was any sort of "rioting" then that's not quite what I'd consider protected speech)



An Obama supporter has zero rights to point to constitutional rights on any matter. The man you are supporting wants to violate certain amendments and given his way he would have the entire thing changed to suit his views a la the "living constitution". I guess 200 years of a document are enough and when you are Obama you should be able to change the country's founding documents to suit you!
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I agree, except when a group starts damaging stores, building, etc. That "Republican Welcoming Committee" group deserves to be arrested. (Note I said arrester Funk, not beaten)
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Gzette wrote:
In nearly every protest/rally/whatever I have ever seen or read about, someone doing the protesting steps out of line, because that somehow helps their point?
Um, no shit. That's what protesting is.

Do you not know the history of this country. This i the kind of shit our forefathers championed above almost all ideals.

I find your opinion disrespectful and frankly, un-american.
No, their right is to protest peacefully, not cause a ruckus, and leave peacefully when their time is up. It's people like you that think it's every American's right and responsibility to drive your point home by whatever means necessary that are wrong. There's really no discussion to be had here, you're wrong (unless I'm misunderstanding you.)

If not, you show me the part of our constitution where it says "If your peaceful protesting doesn't work in your mind, you should start flipping cars over and lighting shit on fire." and I'll concede the point.
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I see the yahoo redneck neocons are out in force today. The false hope of Sarah Palin's nomination appears to have given them some balls after the last week of being in hiding.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:An Obama supporter has zero rights to point to constitutional rights on any matter. The man you are supporting wants to violate certain amendments and given his way he would have the entire thing changed to suit his views a la the "living constitution". I guess 200 years of a document are enough and when you are Obama you should be able to change the country's founding documents to suit you!
Well, Bush has already raped the Constitution, losening up it's ass for your man McCain to walk in and try to make a human life amendment in order to outlaw abortion.

You should check your own candidate's background before you throw stones.
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Funkmasterr wrote:If not, you show me the part of our constitution where it says "If your peaceful protesting doesn't work in your mind, you should start flipping cars over and lighting shit on fire." and I'll concede the point.
I saw a video where about 20 protesters, armed with flags were fired upon by the police with flashbangs and what was thought to be tear gas.
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Funkmasterr wrote:There were not massive amounts of empty seats in the convention I watched, assuming we watched the same thing. There were some, but saying "massive amounts" is a gross exaggeration.

I hope that all the asshole protester/Rioting assholes were absolutely brutalized by the police that arrested them, I really do.
I don't know what you watched, and perhaps they kept all of their shots tight to hide the amount of empty seats. MSNBC panned around quite a bit and you could see tons of empty, open seats all over the place. When the protester was escorted out, police marched her past 10+ ROWS of empty seats. I'd call that pretty massive for a major event such as this.
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Fairweather Pure wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:An Obama supporter has zero rights to point to constitutional rights on any matter. The man you are supporting wants to violate certain amendments and given his way he would have the entire thing changed to suit his views a la the "living constitution". I guess 200 years of a document are enough and when you are Obama you should be able to change the country's founding documents to suit you!
Well, Bush has already raped the Constitution, losening up it's ass for your man McCain to walk in and try to make a human life amendment in order to outlaw abortion.

You should check your own candidate's background before you throw stones.

Seeing as how he has never sponsored a bill even remotely touchign that, where do you get your information? Hell, McCain over the last few years has had one of the worst track records for voting with his party on issues. Last year was one of his highest at 90% and that was because he only voted on something like 40% of the bills.
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No, their right is to protest peacefully, not cause a ruckus, and leave peacefully when their time is up. It's people like you that think it's every American's right and responsibility to drive your point home by whatever means necessary that are wrong. There's really no discussion to be had here, you're wrong (unless I'm misunderstanding you.)

If not, you show me the part of our constitution where it says "If your peaceful protesting doesn't work in your mind, you should start flipping cars over and lighting shit on fire." and I'll concede the point.
I never said anything about breaking stuff. I agree, that's breaking the law and they should be punished (though excessive force must be avoided)

But you've repeatedly interjected your hopes that protesters (of any sort) get assaulted by police. In fact you've said that you garner joy from it. That sickening, and as I said above, un-American.

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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Seeing as how he has never sponsored a bill even remotely touchign that, where do you get your information?
Is straight out of his mouth good enough?

I'm always amazed at how uninformed people are about their candidate.
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Gzette wrote:
No, their right is to protest peacefully, not cause a ruckus, and leave peacefully when their time is up. It's people like you that think it's every American's right and responsibility to drive your point home by whatever means necessary that are wrong. There's really no discussion to be had here, you're wrong (unless I'm misunderstanding you.)

If not, you show me the part of our constitution where it says "If your peaceful protesting doesn't work in your mind, you should start flipping cars over and lighting shit on fire." and I'll concede the point.
I never said anything about breaking stuff. I agree, that's breaking the law and they should be punished (though excessive force must be avoided)

But you've repeatedly interjected your hopes that protesters (of any sort) get assaulted by police. In fact you've said that you garner joy from it. That sickening, and as I said above, un-American.

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No, you're wrong you fucking moron. I said I hope it happens to them because I know they won't be peaceful. If someone wants to peacefully protest, more power to them - but that is almost never the case, so my point still stands.

You might want to polish up your reading comprehension skills.
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Lets see the link to the video of him saying that. I have seen several of his statements regarding abortion and have yet to see him saying he is going to amend the constitution to outlaw abortion. Lets completely ignore the fact that as President he would not have the right to sponsor or vote on such an amendmant AND the fact that Congress is a Dem majority. What else could he do besides appoint a Supreme Court justice where there already is a conservative majority that is in place but yet still will not go against the decisions already handed down in RvW?
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Lets see the link to the video of him saying that. I have seen several of his statements regarding abortion and have yet to see him saying he is going to amend the constitution to outlaw abortion. Lets completely ignore the fact that as President he would not have the right to sponsor or vote on such an amendmant AND the fact that Congress is a Dem majority. What else could he do besides appoint a Supreme Court justice where there already is a conservative majority that is in place but yet still will not go against the decisions already handed down in RvW?
So, you can't take that same logic and apply it to your worries about Obama?

This whole conversation with you is about trying to get you to listen to yourself.
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Obama does not need an amendment propsed to do the things that worries me. Abortion, quite frankly, is way at the bottom of my list of shit that impacts me,
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and if it doesn't impact you it doesn't matter, right?
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The entire abortion thing is bunk. It's a non issue on both ends and is nothing more than another shiny object to distract people with. Just stop arguing about it.
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Funk, I guess I'll remind you of what you have stated. I must say, you're doing a terrific job replacing Midnyte's idiocy. Hurrah

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... it=protest
(I just want to express how excited I am) To see some protesters at the Republican National Convention get shot with rubber bullets! It would be even better if xyun or someone was there, you guys should and show express yourselves!

It was really funny listening to the douchebags that are going to be here protesting bitch about how terrible it is that we made rubber bullets legal again. Guess if they don't get out of line, they won't get shot! But that wouldn't be any fun.
And then
Hah, I don't actually care about the convention, just about the ruckus that is sure to come with it. I plan on setting up a lawn chair near wherever the protesters are, drinking beer, and laughing.
You qualify that by stating that once protesters get "out of line," they should get shot. I still stand by the use of force by police officers should any protest turn violent. But your comments do not reflect that. And getting "out of line" does not mean getting violent. It sounds like you were looking for a few troublemakers to stay past the city's established protest times (you should have issues with that) to get shot, and laugh gleefully.

Perhaps you don't see the beauty in the right to peacefully organize. Most times protesting is rude and sometimes even crude (for instance the "Iron my shirt" guy at a Hillary Clinton rally), but that's what it is. And no one deserves to get roughed up for it.

Really,

So that's how my reading comprehension works.
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Winnow wrote:The ultra liberals that threaten to leave the country would swing the moderate vote to McCain. Not many can handle the full time whining of a liberal.
lol The GOP is playing the whining victim this year. Oh the ageism, the sexism, he was a POW, mercy me!!!
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Gzette wrote:Funk, I guess I'll remind you of what you have stated. I must say, you're doing a terrific job replacing Midnyte's idiocy. Hurrah

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... it=protest
(I just want to express how excited I am) To see some protesters at the Republican National Convention get shot with rubber bullets! It would be even better if xyun or someone was there, you guys should and show express yourselves!

It was really funny listening to the douchebags that are going to be here protesting bitch about how terrible it is that we made rubber bullets legal again. Guess if they don't get out of line, they won't get shot! But that wouldn't be any fun.
And then
Hah, I don't actually care about the convention, just about the ruckus that is sure to come with it. I plan on setting up a lawn chair near wherever the protesters are, drinking beer, and laughing.
You qualify that by stating that once protesters get "out of line," they should get shot. I still stand by the use of force by police officers should any protest turn violent. But your comments do not reflect that. And getting "out of line" does not mean getting violent. It sounds like you were looking for a few troublemakers to stay past the city's established protest times (you should have issues with that) to get shot, and laugh gleefully.

Perhaps you don't see the beauty in the right to peacefully organize. Most times protesting is rude and sometimes even crude (for instance the "Iron my shirt" guy at a Hillary Clinton rally), but that's what it is. And no one deserves to get roughed up for it.

Really,

So that's how my reading comprehension works.
So let's sum it up. If they don't do anything wrong, I don't think anything should happen to them (you were implying I said otherwise.) And that drama (people getting out of line and getting fucked up in this case) is more fun than peace (isn't that why we all supposedly post on these forums.) Yeah, I'm a real lowlife. :roll:
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You know, I am continually amazed by how short sighted people are.

John McCain himself is not a bad canidate. In fact, after Bush, he is likely the only Republican that even had a prayer of winning, and a lot of that stems from his known and somewhat remembered (but not a lot) headutting with the President and his own party. I remember that he was against the war in Iraq, and caught major flak for that. Then I remember he was in favor of staying there. To me that says he would have prefered to not go there in the first place, but did not want to leave a country in political shambles in the aftermath of an American buttfucking. Yet, somehow he is a flipflopper (Which by definition is retarded, saying that someone cannot find new information and change based on that, for good or ill).

Do not mistake me. I am voting for Obama. I think he is the stronger canidate, and realistically is what this country needs. However, this whole "If McCain is elected, I am leaving the U.S." is stupid. The man is not Bush, he is a far fucking cry from Bush, and IF he got elected I would not be mortified having this man as my president, at least no more or less than I would having Obama. I would expect him to butt heads with the G.O.P. relatively frequently if such happened.
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Ultimately, this election has little to do with McCain. He's an old man, he will die soon, the people who are becoming frantic with worry are more concerned that the Republican party is effectively traveling down the fatal route of putting a new earth creationist village of about 2 square miles redneck, a real one, not a fake east coast educated Bush who acts like a redneck', who can be manipulated by evil, harmful, self serving profiteers, into the office of the most heavily armed nation on planet Earth.

There are actually no words to describe how terrifying a prospect that is, to many in the US, and many around the globe.

Utterly terrifying.

The usual "Fuck yeah" mentality I loathe, would be a welcome relief at this point. Nothing good can come from electing McCain Palin, mark my words.
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So what I'm getting so far from this McCain video is..

A) We should be nominating his father for Rep candidate
B) Black men & their babies are good political props
C) McCain's claim to fame is choosing to stay at a PoW camp
D) Vietnam is to McCain what 9/11 is to Gulliani.. except not as many people remember Vietnam

Now he's on, trying to stretch out the applause. At least his wife looks better tonight. I'd fuck her in the ass.
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For the love of God John.. couldn't you memorize at least some of your speech? Talk about reading from a teleprompter.
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Dude.. it's been years since the 'worst attack in American history' (which is a statement I disagree with completely), is that all you've got?
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Not sure I agree with the protests during his speech.. but they should have pre-arranged with the camera people NOT to be focusing on every one of them. There's been what, 2 or 3 so far?
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He's commending Palin for balancing a budget? Of what, 10k people? Or whatever mini population it was? Oh jeez..
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Whoever wrote McCain's speech blows. It's nothing but a series of one liners. McCain is speaking AT his audience, where Obama spoke TO his audience. Obama spoke, McCain is reading his teleprompter like a bedtime book.
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Lower taxes.. I love this rally of the republicans. How exactly are you going to pay off the deficit without taxes? I don't want to pay more taxes, but I realize that as a citizen of this country it's partially on my shoulders to get us out of debt. So too is it the responsibility of those making hundreds of thousands a year, and their taxes shouldn't be lowered more than mine.
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He wants to put schools in charge of the parents and students? The fucking parents don't care - that's the basis of the whole fucking problem you fucking ignorant fuck.
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I without a doubt appreciate McCain's service to this country and am glad he survived being a POW.. but being a POW doesn't make you presidential. It doesn't give you leadership abilities. Nor does having high ranked family members. And seriously.. he needs something else. That's getting old.
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Are you kidding me? A John McCain song? Really?
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I would too. Despite looking robotic, she looks utterly incredible for 54. McCain has great taste in women.

The thing is, I actually kinda like McCain as a person. He's gone through a lot. I just dont happen to agree with him on pretty much anything he stands for. His party is highly unbecoming of him.

He's a total gung ho warmonger. A religious fanatic. Looks like he's at deaths door etc etc.

The truth is, I hate these political bullshit families. Standing up after fawning adoration from the nominees. Both candidates are disgusting in this. You can see the desire for power in the eyes of a 94 year old white woman and a 30/40 something black woman. It's so fucking false. I wish everyone would just abstain instead of voting for either party until the whole system was changed. The reality is, the system isn't changing. I find a policy rich, peace driven, progressive candidate like Obama to a plaintive religiously zealous relic like McCain. He looks like raising his voice would kill him.
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The video was pretty lame. McCain's wife's speech was pretty bad, thankfully the football game was still on during her speech.


Most of his speech wasn't very smooth but McCain wrapped it up pretty well.
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Yeah, a nice finish.

It's a pity he had little substance, outright lied several times and played on his hypocritical POW stance. A man who makes torture sound so sad and horrific who then advocates torture these days must be a total asshole. It will be sad to see if this ploy wins.
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He's a total gung ho warmonger. A religious fanatic. Looks like he's at deaths door etc etc.
Uhhh, he is totally NOT a religious fanatic.
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Sorry, our definitions may differ. I pretty much assume anyone who is religious is by default a fanatic. Sorry to not be relativist enough for you.
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Nick wrote:Sorry, our definitions may differ. I pretty much assume anyone who is religious is by default a fanatic. Sorry to not be relativist enough for you.
Then you're a fucking moron as you may as well call every candidate a religious fanatic. Dipshit.
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The convention isn't quite over just yet Winnow, shouldn't you be off sucking some GOP dick or something instead of posting here?
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Nick wrote:Sorry, our definitions may differ. I pretty much assume anyone who is religious is by default a fanatic. Sorry to not be relativist enough for you.
Nick, you are absolutely wrong.
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Siji wrote: Dude.. it's been years since the 'worst attack in American history' (which is a statement I disagree with completely), is that all you've got?
There was certainly more substance to his speech than that. It's funny watching how people narrow down on the thing they think will be easiest to throw stupid comments around about.
Siji wrote: Not sure I agree with the protests during his speech.. but they should have pre-arranged with the camera people NOT to be focusing on every one of them. There's been what, 2 or 3 so far?
Those people should have been beaten on camera, dragged by their arm out to the sidewalk, thrown in the gutter and left there.
Siji wrote: He's commending Palin for balancing a budget? Of what, 10k people? Or whatever mini population it was? Oh jeez..
Could you do that? Secondly, she is now governor there (something that seems to be forgotten constantly) and there are more than 10k people in Alaska. Belittling the accomplishments she has made in that state is retarded.. I have family in Alaska that is generally speaking fairly liberal - and they love Palin and what she has done. I certainly know BJ Billy didn't even have the approval rating she does there.
Siji wrote: Whoever wrote McCain's speech blows. It's nothing but a series of one liners. McCain is speaking AT his audience, where Obama spoke TO his audience. Obama spoke, McCain is reading his teleprompter like a bedtime book.
While the charisma and the ability to make public speeches that Obama (and Palin, IMO) has is admirable, it really has no bearing on how well they will run this country.
Siji wrote: Lower taxes.. I love this rally of the republicans. How exactly are you going to pay off the deficit without taxes? I don't want to pay more taxes, but I realize that as a citizen of this country it's partially on my shoulders to get us out of debt. So too is it the responsibility of those making hundreds of thousands a year, and their taxes shouldn't be lowered more than mine.
You don't really think that all that tax money just gets put aside to take care of our debt? A good deal of it would go to push the other bullshit Obama wants to do.. More taxes, bigger government, more bureaucracy.. You can keep that, I have zero interest in any of it.
Siji wrote: He wants to put schools in charge of the parents and students? The fucking parents don't care - that's the basis of the whole fucking problem you fucking ignorant fuck.
You know, it's funny. I was just talking to my girlfriends step dad the other night about how important this actually is to him and others in his family. Some people do want our kids to not only get a better education, but to not have the liberal ideals shoved on them in school like they are. They would like the opportunity to CHOOSE where their kids go to school, but in many cases cost is what stops them from doing just that. Saying parents don't care is completely wrong.
Siji wrote: I without a doubt appreciate McCain's service to this country and am glad he survived being a POW.. but being a POW doesn't make you presidential. It doesn't give you leadership abilities. Nor does having high ranked family members. And seriously.. he needs something else. That's getting old.
No, but combined with his time in congress and as a senator, I'd say that makes him a lot more qualified to be our president than the other choice.. Not to mention it pretty much gets rid of any notion that our country isn't very important to him.
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Siji wrote: Are you kidding me? A John McCain song? Really?
I'll give you that, it was pretty stupid and that was about my exact reaction when I heard it.



It's just amusing to me how people are pointing out all these things about McCain and don't realize most of it could be applied to Obama. You want to talk about being qualified to run our nation? What leadership experience does he have? He's never ran a business, a city, a state, anything.. He may very well be a good leader but how precisely would any of us know that?

I just think it's scary how much people are investing in this guy because he can make a charismatic speech and talk a good game about all the shit he is going to "change".. Blind leading the blind.
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It's just amusing to me how people are pointing out all these things about McCain and don't realize most of it could be applied to Obama
Uhh, the biggest (and only legitimate?) criticism of Obama has been his lack of experience... the GOP has been hammering that point for months.
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miir wrote:
It's just amusing to me how people are pointing out all these things about McCain and don't realize most of it could be applied to Obama
Uhh, the biggest (and only legitimate?) criticism of Obama has been his lack of experience... the GOP has been hammering that point for months.
I think you would be mistaken saying that has been the only criticism or weak point that has been pointed out. However, it happens to be a pretty big one, and makes it pretty hard for me to believe that he is ready for the job he is going after.
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I am going to use the Obama approach in my interviews.

"Sir, do you have any experience in being the CEO of a Fortune 500 company?"

No, but I believe in change in this company and I am here to make that change!


I think it should go well.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I am going to use the Obama approach in my interviews.

"Sir, do you have any experience in being the CEO of a Fortune 500 company?"

No, but I believe in change in this company and I am here to make that change!


I think it should go well.
You most definately should do that, but you shouldn't fool yourself into thinking that is known as the Obama approach.
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Funkmasterr wrote:
Siji wrote:
Siji wrote: Not sure I agree with the protests during his speech.. but they should have pre-arranged with the camera people NOT to be focusing on every one of them. There's been what, 2 or 3 so far?
Those people should have been beaten on camera, dragged by their arm out to the sidewalk, thrown in the gutter and left there.
I agree, same with people that start violent confrontations when someone accidentally scratches their ride in a supermarket carpark...
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Zaelath wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
Siji wrote:
Siji wrote: Not sure I agree with the protests during his speech.. but they should have pre-arranged with the camera people NOT to be focusing on every one of them. There's been what, 2 or 3 so far?
Those people should have been beaten on camera, dragged by their arm out to the sidewalk, thrown in the gutter and left there.
I agree, same with people that start violent confrontations when someone accidentally scratches their ride in a supermarket carpark...
Another clever one by America's reject!
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Another clever one by America's reject!
Much as you might want to believe that, you already know it's not so. Poor baby, got nuthin so make shit up. Do you masturbate to your fantasies about me?
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Zaelath wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
Another clever one by America's reject!
Much as you might want to believe that, you already know it's not so. Poor baby, got nuthin so make shit up. Do you masturbate to your fantasies about me?
No, but I did think about you a couple of minutes ago while I was admiring the massive Taco Johns shit I took, right before I flushed it.
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Funkmasterr wrote:
Zaelath wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
Another clever one by America's reject!
Much as you might want to believe that, you already know it's not so. Poor baby, got nuthin so make shit up. Do you masturbate to your fantasies about me?
No, but I did think about you a couple of minutes ago while I was admiring the massive Taco Johns shit I took, right before I flushed it.
Yeah, you're just the type to get contemplative about a turd. Hell, you have the same IQ.
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