McCain will be the next U.S. President (IMO)

[Funkmasterr]

Let the idiocy continue. Midnyte, I want to strongly urge you to vote for John McCain. Please, show the world your true colors, and be proud of them.


The Future, starring President John McCain

If you are trying to be the epitome of all that is "liberaldouchebag" you can stop trying so damned hard, you won!

You are just as ignorant and guilty of every little thing you're so quick to run your trap about.

Oh, and for a point of reference, just because you don't see something or can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, no matter how much you'd have people believe so.

huh?

What part of that wasn't clear? My last sentence was in reference to the libaganda video about WMD's that you fucking linked.

[Funkmasterr]

Oh, and for a point of reference, just because you don't see something or can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, no matter how much you'd have people believe so.

I didn't know you were religious.

well played sir!

[Traz-KOE]

libaganda

I fucking love the internet.

[Xyun]

Let the idiocy continue. Midnyte, I want to strongly urge you to vote for John McCain. Please, show the world your true colors, and be proud of them.


The Future, starring President John McCain

If you are trying to be the epitome of all that is "liberaldouchebag" you can stop trying so damned hard, you won!

You are just as ignorant and guilty of every little thing you're so quick to run your trap about.

Oh, and for a point of reference, just because you don't see something or can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, no matter how much you'd have people believe so.

huh?

What part of that wasn't clear? My last sentence was in reference to the libaganda video about WMD's that you fucking linked.

The part of that video that matters to the context of this thread and this election is the last 30 seconds.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Let the idiocy continue. Midnyte, I want to strongly urge you to vote for John McCain. Please, show the world your true colors, and be proud of them.


The Future, starring President John McCain

If you are trying to be the epitome of all that is "liberaldouchebag" you can stop trying so damned hard, you won!

You are just as ignorant and guilty of every little thing you're so quick to run your trap about.

Oh, and for a point of reference, just because you don't see something or can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, no matter how much you'd have people believe so.

huh?

What part of that wasn't clear? My last sentence was in reference to the libaganda video about WMD's that you fucking linked.

The part of that video that matters to the context of this thread and this election is the last 30 seconds.

But, of course it's the only thing that matters, it agrees with your opinion. Only a foolish open minded person could possibly see it differently.

[Funkmasterr]

Let the idiocy continue. Midnyte, I want to strongly urge you to vote for John McCain. Please, show the world your true colors, and be proud of them.


The Future, starring President John McCain

If you are trying to be the epitome of all that is "liberaldouchebag" you can stop trying so damned hard, you won!

You are just as ignorant and guilty of every little thing you're so quick to run your trap about.

Oh, and for a point of reference, just because you don't see something or can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, no matter how much you'd have people believe so.

huh?

What part of that wasn't clear? My last sentence was in reference to the libaganda video about WMD's that you fucking linked.

The part of that video that matters to the context of this thread and this election is the last 30 seconds.

Sorry, my tolerance level for liberal bullshit propaganda in video form is about 20 seconds, so I didn't make it that far.

[Nick]

Fuckheads like you should put your money where your mouth is and fuck off to Saudi Arabia so you don't have to deal with "liberal" thinking.

I'm sure the founding fathers must be doing fucking backflips in their graves right now seeing idiots like the above regurgitate the moronic rantings of braindead right wing pundits.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Fuckheads like you should put your money where your mouth is and fuck off to Saudi Arabia so you don't have to deal with "liberal" thinking.

I'm sure the founding fathers must be doing fucking backflips in their graves right now seeing idiots like the above regurgitate the moronic rantings of braindead right wing pundits.

blah blah blah

[Nick]

Wow good point you have made me see the light.

Or shut the fuck up.

[Winnow]

*bump*

McCain takes lead over Obama: poll

By John Whitesides, Political CorrespondentWed Aug 20, 8:25 AM ET

In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama's solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.

The reversal follows a month of attacks by McCain, who has questioned Obama's experience, criticized his opposition to most new offshore oil drilling and mocked his overseas trip.

The poll was taken Thursday through Saturday as Obama wrapped up a weeklong vacation in Hawaii that ceded the political spotlight to McCain, who seized on Russia's invasion of Georgia to emphasize his foreign policy views.

"There is no doubt the campaign to discredit Obama is paying off for McCain right now," pollster John Zogby said. "This is a significant ebb for Obama."

McCain now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over Obama on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy -- an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election.

That margin reversed Obama's 4-point edge last month on the economy over McCain, an Arizona senator and former Vietnam prisoner of war who has admitted a lack of economic expertise and shows far greater interest in foreign and military policy.

McCain has been on the offensive against Obama during the last month over energy concerns, with polls showing strong majorities supporting his call for an expansion of offshore oil drilling as gasoline prices hover near $4 a gallon.

Obama had opposed new offshore drilling, but said recently he would support a limited expansion as part of a comprehensive energy program.

That was one of several recent policy shifts for Obama, as he positions himself for the general election battle. But Zogby said the changes could be taking a toll on Obama's support, particularly among Democrats and self-described liberals.

"That hairline difference between nuance and what appears to be flip-flopping is hurting him with liberal voters," Zogby said.

Obama's support among Democrats fell 9 percentage points this month to 74 percent, while McCain has the backing of 81 percent of Republicans. Support for Obama, an Illinois senator, fell 12 percentage points among liberals, with 10 percent of liberals still undecided compared to 9 percent of conservatives.

OBAMA NEEDS TO WORK ON BASE

"Conservatives were supposed to be the bigger problem for McCain," Zogby said. "Obama still has work to do on his base. At this point McCain seems to be doing a better job with his."

The dip in support for Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, cut across demographic and ideological lines. He slipped among Catholics, born-again Christians, women, independents and younger voters. He retained the support of more than 90 percent of black voters.

"There were no wild swings, there isn't one group that is radically different than last month or even two months ago. It was just a steady decline for Obama across the board," Zogby said.

Obama's support among voters between the ages of 18 and 29, which had been one of his strengths, slipped 12 percentage points to 52 percent. McCain, who will turn 72 next week, was winning 40 percent of younger voters.

"Those are not the numbers Obama needs to win," Zogby said about Americans under 30. The 47-year-old is counting on a strong turnout among young voters, a key bloc of support during his primary battle with New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.

It made little difference when independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, who are both trying to add their names to state ballots.

McCain still held a 5-point edge over Obama, 44 percent to 39 percent, when all four names were included. Barr earned 3 percent and Nader 2 percent.

Most national polls have given Obama a narrow lead over McCain throughout the summer. In the Reuters/Zogby poll, Obama had a 5-point lead in June, shortly after he clinched the Democratic nomination, and an 8-point lead on McCain in May.

The telephone poll of 1,089 likely voters had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The poll was taken as both candidates head into their nominating conventions and the announcements of their choices of vice presidential picks. The Democratic convention begins on Monday in Denver, with the Republican convention opening the next Monday, September 1, in St. Paul, Minnesota.

[Sylvus]

I still don't understand why "new offshore drilling" is even an issue. Am I not understanding something about the millions of existing acres of available drilling land that is currently unused? Why do they need more (at this time)?

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

With the sheep of the US, perception far outweighs reality. If they perceive that new drilling will drop their gas prices by a nickel, then it is a HUGE issue. Much like a $600 tax rebate check will spur them into spending more money than they got back.

[Funkmasterr]

With the sheep of the US, perception far outweighs reality. If they perceive that new drilling will drop their gas prices by a nickel, then it is a HUGE issue. Much like a $600 tax rebate check will spur them into spending more money than they got back.

Which is just another example of why people aren't hurting (economically) as bad as we are making it sound.

[Canelek]

I don't think those kicker checks are a very good indicator of the state of our economy, if that is what you are getting at.

[Funkmasterr]

I don't think those kicker checks are a very good indicator of the state of our economy, if that is what you are getting at.

What I am getting at, is that many people got a 600-1200 dollar check and went out and bought something considerably more expensive than that (TV, PC, whatever). If they were hurting so bad they would have taken the money they got and either saved it or used it to pay bills they were behind on, and that just didn't seem to be the case.

[Sylvus]

What I am getting at, is that many people got a 600-1200 dollar check and went out and bought something considerably more expensive than that (TV, PC, whatever).

How many people did that? Where are you coming up with that?

People are hurting, many economists are saying that we're currently in a recession, the housing market is in a crisis and unemployment rates are increasing across the country.

I think you're wrong.

[Funkmasterr]

What I am getting at, is that many people got a 600-1200 dollar check and went out and bought something considerably more expensive than that (TV, PC, whatever).

How many people did that? Where are you coming up with that?

People are hurting, many economists are saying that we're currently in a recession, the housing market is in a crisis and unemployment rates are increasing across the country.

I think you're wrong.

I'm just going off of what I've heard/seen, so it's by no means a representation of the entire country, but I have a hard time believing Minnesota is just fine and the rest of the country is filled with unemployed people who are killing each other in a bread line. Point is, I don't think things are as bad as people are making them out to be, I think a big part of it is speculation.. Analysts speculate that the economy might be bad for whatever reason and people hear that and panic instead of ignoring it like they should.

[Siji]

Everyone I've talked to said they put their money towards bills. Not savings, not toys, but bills. Mine went to the same place.

On the radio yesterday someone was saying that housing starts and building permits are at a low that hasn't been seen in decades. We're experiencing the fastest rate of inflation in 27 years. Jobs are being cut everywhere and unemployment is up.

Yeah, it's all peachy here in the US. Glad we're doing some good in Iraq. I mean, it's a whole lot better to spend those billions there than here.

[Fash]

I spent mine at one place, and just about every person I know used theirs immediately or spent it before it even arrived.

Other than the rise in gas prices, I don't think reality matches up with the economists predictions, and now that gas is back on the decline (partly because of the discussions about drilling, etc) people are easing up on the 'crisis' mentality. It's a buyers market, now, and I'm looking for a house.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Everyone I've talked to said they put their money towards bills. Not savings, not toys, but bills. Mine went to the same place.

On the radio yesterday someone was saying that housing starts and building permits are at a low that hasn't been seen in decades. We're experiencing the fastest rate of inflation in 27 years. Jobs are being cut everywhere and unemployment is up.

Yeah, it's all peachy here in the US. Glad we're doing some good in Iraq. I mean, it's a whole lot better to spend those billions there than here.

Because Iraq has so much to do with morons getting themselves into stupid payments on houses and real estates that were outside their means. You think things will be better with Obama? All he is going to do is spend more of your money here AND spend it overseas.

[Funkmasterr]

Everyone I've talked to said they put their money towards bills. Not savings, not toys, but bills. Mine went to the same place.

On the radio yesterday someone was saying that housing starts and building permits are at a low that hasn't been seen in decades. We're experiencing the fastest rate of inflation in 27 years. Jobs are being cut everywhere and unemployment is up.

Yeah, it's all peachy here in the US. Glad we're doing some good in Iraq. I mean, it's a whole lot better to spend those billions there than here.

I'd say 75% of the people I know used theirs for a big TV, or whatever other big purchase. This is people ranging from 18-50.

The housing market has it's ups and downs and always has. You can blame a lot of the home builders out there for fucking it up as bad as it is now, production home builders put up single family homes and especially townhomes all over the country at such an alarming rate that the market became completely saturated and they couldn't keep selling them fast enough.
That alone would explain what you stated above..

You can also thank the morons that signed mortgages they were unable to afford. If they didn't understand what was being stated in the contracts they should have got a lawyer and figured it out, otherwise they shouldn't have taken the damn mortgage, and it's THEIR fault, not the banks - and to be frank, it's bullshit the government is bailing those inept fucks out of the shit hole they got themselves into.

Again, in MN the job market is perfectly fine and has been for years. I know plenty of people who have made job switches in the computer related fields recently and have had no problem finding new jobs.

Again, I have a hard time believing things are fine in MN and terrible elsewhere...

[Fairweather Pure]

Wow, I don't know where to start in replying to that post.

[Funkmasterr]

Wow, I don't know where to start in replying to that post.

You could probably start with something to the effect of how intolerant I am and maybe round it off with a comment about how it's the government's job to save people's asses when they make moronic decisions.

That's assuming you were talking about my post

[Sylvus]

I'd say 75% of the people I know used theirs for a big TV, or whatever other big purchase. This is people ranging from 18-50.

How many people would you say you know who are taxpayers that received a $600-1200 check from the government? 10? 50? 100? More? And you honestly know of 7.5, 37.5, 75 or more people who bought TVs or other large purchases? Or did you hear of like 4 or 5 people say that, and you are exaggerating right now?

Again, in MN the job market is perfectly fine and has been for years. I know plenty of people who have made job switches in the computer related fields recently and have had no problem finding new jobs.

Again, I have a hard time believing things are fine in MN and terrible elsewhere...

In the last year, Minnesota has seen the unemployment rate climb from 4.5% to 5.8%. In the last month, the unemployment rate has gone from 5.3% to 5.8%. Unless I'm reading the statistics wrong.

A wise man who is no longer with us used to refer to the "Big Picture". Methinks you're being a bit myopic.

[Aslanna]

Apparently Minnesota is part of the Bizarro universe...

Oh and I saved my 'Economic Stimulus Check'.

[Fash]

1% is a very small number, nor is this increase unusual or extreme... nor is the current level in any way a record, or necessarily indicative of the state of the economy.

big picture? methinks you've no concept of the word.

[miir]

I'd say 75% of the people I know used theirs for a big TV, or whatever other big purchase. This is people ranging from 18-50.

If the economy wasn't on a downswing, there would be no need for economic stimulus cheques.

The housing market has it's ups and downs and always has. You can blame a lot of the home builders out there for fucking it up as bad as it is now, production home builders put up single family homes and especially townhomes all over the country at such an alarming rate that the market became completely saturated and they couldn't keep selling them fast enough.
That alone would explain what you stated above..

Haha holy fuck, are you really that stupid?
No really?
Do you really think that home builders are to blame for the current housing crisis?

You can also thank the morons that signed mortgages they were unable to afford. If they didn't understand what was being stated in the contracts they should have got a lawyer and figured it out, otherwise they shouldn't have taken the damn mortgage, and it's THEIR fault, not the banks - and to be frank, it's bullshit the government is bailing those inept fucks out of the shit hole they got themselves into.

Uhhhhhhh.....

Again, in MN the job market is perfectly fine and has been for years. I know plenty of people who have made job switches in the computer related fields recently and have had no problem finding new jobs.

The unemployment rate for MN is higher than the national average.
The unemployment rate increased .5% for the month of july.
The state lost 8600 jobs in the month of july.

Perfectly fine, huh?

Again, I have a hard time believing things are fine in MN and terrible elsewhere...

Maybe you should take off your fucking blinders.

[cadalano]

funk makes shit up, and then he makes up more shit to back the shit he just made up. and so on until eventually the entire state of Minnesota is involved. this is basically his conduct in every conversation that he has ever had on this board. he believes every time that the "Minnesota Factor" is a silver bullet when it is in fact a big colorful flag that says "BANG".. but he never seems to catch on.. We should all be so blissfully ignorant

[Sylvus]

1% is a very small number, nor is this increase unusual or extreme... nor is the current level in any way a record, or necessarily indicative of the state of the economy.

big picture? methinks you've no concept of the word.

Oh, I have quite a grasp on the Big Picture. Certainly enough to know that how Funkmasterr's friends spent their stimulus checks and the state of IT jobs for those of his friends who have recently wanted to change jobs are the absolute opposite of the Big Picture.

Also, the term "buyer's market" is kind of a euphemism for "people are losing their fucking houses". I realize that if we anecdotally take evidence from those people who have the luxury of jobs where they sit in front of computers all day and have time to lurk on VV, or can afford to have a computer at their house and enough free time to have thousands of posts here, we're probably not going to find many people who are struggling to get by.

Sure, it's stupid of people to take mortgages they can't afford, and they are the cause of the housing crisis and nowhere have I suggested anything otherwise. That doesn't discount that their situation, added to the vastly increased energy prices, inflation and current upswing in unemployment rates are - Big Picture - indicators that the economy isn't doing as splendidly as you'd like to believe.

Sure, I'm fine and you're fine, and all of Funk's friends and family are doing swimmingly, but - Big Picture - a lot of people out there aren't.

[Fash]

Ahhhh, Capitalism... Isn't it wonderful?

[Funkmasterr]

I'd say 75% of the people I know used theirs for a big TV, or whatever other big purchase. This is people ranging from 18-50.

If the economy wasn't on a downswing, there would be no need for economic stimulus cheques.

The housing market has it's ups and downs and always has. You can blame a lot of the home builders out there for fucking it up as bad as it is now, production home builders put up single family homes and especially townhomes all over the country at such an alarming rate that the market became completely saturated and they couldn't keep selling them fast enough.
That alone would explain what you stated above..

Haha holy fuck, are you really that stupid?
No really?
Do you really think that home builders are to blame for the current housing crisis?

I don't think, I know. I worked for one of the biggest home builders in the region for several years, and even when I quit that job 5 years ago they were not able to sell houses because the market was so saturated. They definitely are part of the blame, and if you can't comprehend such a simple concept, that's pretty sad. I realize that the morons that you seem to want to defend for signing a mortgage they had no business signing had an even bigger part in getting us where we're at, but that doesn't discount what I said.

You can also thank the morons that signed mortgages they were unable to afford. If they didn't understand what was being stated in the contracts they should have got a lawyer and figured it out, otherwise they shouldn't have taken the damn mortgage, and it's THEIR fault, not the banks - and to be frank, it's bullshit the government is bailing those inept fucks out of the shit hole they got themselves into.

Uhhhhhhh.....

uhhhh. what? Uhhh you think they should be getting bailed out by the government? If so you are a complete fucking moron. They made their bed, now they can lie in it, I could give a fuck less if their lives are ruined. You probably aren't big on personal responsibility though, it's not a common trait amongst people with mostly liberal ideals.

Again, in MN the job market is perfectly fine and has been for years. I know plenty of people who have made job switches in the computer related fields recently and have had no problem finding new jobs.

The unemployment rate for MN is higher than the national average.
The unemployment rate increased .5% for the month of july.
The state lost 8600 jobs in the month of july.

Perfectly fine, huh?

Here you go not quoting where the info I'm supposed to believe comes from. Even if the unemployment rate rose (let's say 1%, cause I don't feel like checking) over the last year or two - that doesn't mean we are in some catastrophic fucking recession like you people are implying.

Again, I have a hard time believing things are fine in MN and terrible elsewhere...

Maybe you should take off your fucking blinders.

Again, because my beliefs don't fit in with your absurd liberal ideals doesn't mean I'm wrong, or I have blinders on. God the political demographic of this board makes me want to fucking puke.

[Sylvus]

Here you go not quoting where the info I'm supposed to believe comes from.

His numbers come directly from one of my posts above, which was directed to you and has a link to the government website where those numbers were taken from.

[Funkmasterr]

1% is a very small number, nor is this increase unusual or extreme... nor is the current level in any way a record, or necessarily indicative of the state of the economy.

big picture? methinks you've no concept of the word.

Oh, I have quite a grasp on the Big Picture. Certainly enough to know that how Funkmasterr's friends spent their stimulus checks and the state of IT jobs for those of his friends who have recently wanted to change jobs are the absolute opposite of the Big Picture.

Also, the term "buyer's market" is kind of a euphemism for "people are losing their fucking houses". I realize that if we anecdotally take evidence from those people who have the luxury of jobs where they sit in front of computers all day and have time to lurk on VV, or can afford to have a computer at their house and enough free time to have thousands of posts here, we're probably not going to find many people who are struggling to get by.

Sure, it's stupid of people to take mortgages they can't afford, and they are the cause of the housing crisis and nowhere have I suggested anything otherwise. That doesn't discount that their situation, added to the vastly increased energy prices, inflation and current upswing in unemployment rates are - Big Picture - indicators that the economy isn't doing as splendidly as you'd like to believe.

Sure, I'm fine and you're fine, and all of Funk's friends and family are doing swimmingly, but - Big Picture - a lot of people out there aren't.

Much of that can be credited to people panicking just because they heard things were getting bad or they heard oil was going to go up x dollars per barrel next week. Much of the bad shit that happens to our economy could be avoided if people would just live within their means, and adjust when it is necessary. Ignore the fucking analysts that create this unnecessary panic, quit being sheep for fucks sake.

[Funkmasterr]

Here you go not quoting where the info I'm supposed to believe comes from.

His numbers come directly from one of my posts above, which was directed to you and has a link to the government website where those numbers were taken from.

Again, 1% in a year isn't the end of the world. You can both stop the arrogance, you haven't proven me wrong on a single thing yet and I doubt you will any time soon.

I'm bored with this already.

[miir]

I don't think, I know. I worked for one of the biggest home builders in the region for several years, and even when I quit that job 5 years ago they were not able to sell houses because the market was so saturated. They definitely are part of the blame, and if you can't comprehend such a simple concept, that's pretty sad. I realize that the morons that you seem to want to defend for signing a mortgage they had no business signing had an even bigger part in getting us where we're at, but that doesn't discount what I said.

What the fuck does 5 years ago have to do with it?
The US was in a housing boom 5 years ago.. that's why homebuilders were building like fucking crazy.
If the company you worked for wasn't selling houses 5 years ago, it certainly wasn't because of the state of the economy.

uhhhh. what? Uhhh you think they should be getting bailed out by the government? If so you are a complete fucking moron. They made their bed, now they can lie in it, I could give a fuck less if their lives are ruined. You probably aren't big on personal responsibility though, it's not a common trait amongst people with mostly liberal ideals.

Well I guess you really are that fucking stupid.
You just don't get it.
I honestly don't think I can dumb it down to a level that you would understand, so I'm not even going to try.

Here you go not quoting where the info I'm supposed to believe comes from. Even if the unemployment rate rose (let's say 1%, cause I don't feel like checking) over the last year or two - that doesn't mean we are in some catastrophic fucking recession like you people are implying.

Google MN unemployment rate you lazy, ignorant fuck.

Again, because my beliefs don't fit in with your absurd liberal ideals doesn't mean I'm wrong, or I have blinders on. God the political demographic of this board makes me want to fucking puke.

Partisan politics has nothing to do with your stupidity.



Honestly dude, you should just stop posting before you make yourself look like an even bigger idiot.

[Sylvus]

Much of that can be credited to people panicking just because they heard things were getting bad or they heard oil was going to go up x dollars per barrel next week. Much of the bad shit that happens to our economy could be avoided if people would just live within their means, and adjust when it is necessary. Ignore the fucking analysts that create this unnecessary panic, quit being sheep for fucks sake.

How do people "being sheep" increase the cost of energy, the rate of inflation, or the unemployment rate?

I'm not panicking, no one in this thread is. All we've been trying to do is to refute your claims that because you know so many people who bought TVs with their checks and switch computer jobs like I change lanes on the highway that the economy is partying like it's 1999.

It's not.

[Funkmasterr]

Much of that can be credited to people panicking just because they heard things were getting bad or they heard oil was going to go up x dollars per barrel next week. Much of the bad shit that happens to our economy could be avoided if people would just live within their means, and adjust when it is necessary. Ignore the fucking analysts that create this unnecessary panic, quit being sheep for fucks sake.

How do people "being sheep" increase the cost of energy, the rate of inflation, or the unemployment rate?

I'm not panicking, no one in this thread is. All we've been trying to do is to refute your claims that because you know so many people who bought TVs with their checks and switch computer jobs like I change lanes on the highway that the economy is partying like it's 1999.

It's not.

I didn't say you were specifically, but what exactly is it that's so hard to understand about what I'm saying?

A lot of our economical problems are directly or indirectly related to the effects of analysts making predictions and people reacting to those predictions before anything happens. That isn't refutable.

[miir]

lot of our economical problems are directly or indirectly related to the effects of analysts making predictions

L oh fucking L

[Fash]

lot of our economical problems are directly or indirectly related to the effects of analysts making predictions

L oh fucking L

L zero fucking L you are a retard.

So why did the price of oil go up?... duh, analysts, projections, BULLSHIT. Not actual changes in supply or demand.

If you can't even accept the fact that the analysts AFFECT the things they analyze, there's no way we'll ever get through to you.

[miir]

So why did the price of oil go up?

Maybe I should spin my chair around and ask the traders sitting behind me why all commodity prices fluctuate.



Oh wait, I already know why.

[Aslanna]

I'm bored with this already.

ie I make a bunch of shit up and got called out on it again.. And don't feel like backing any of it up with actual facts that may disagree with what I'm saying. Teehee!

[Funkmasterr]

So why did the price of oil go up?

Maybe I should spin my chair around and ask the traders sitting behind me why all commodity prices fluctuate.



Oh wait, I already know why.

You are avoiding the question. Those asshole traders (I hope they all die in a fucking accident on their way home tonight, btw) are part of the reason... That still doesn't negate the point that I made, fash reinforced, and you refuse to acknowledge. Not even a little bit.

[miir]

YEA, FUCK CAPITALISM!!!!!






I am enjoying watching you two flaunt your ignorance.
This is a topic that I have a great deal of knowledge about.

[Funkmasterr]

YEA, FUCK CAPITALISM!!!!!






I am enjoying watching you two flaunt your ignorance.
This is a topic that I have a great deal of knowledge about.

If you are such a fucking know-all then respond to the question instead of being an obnoxious prick, that is assuming you're capable of doing so.

[miir]

Simpy put: Supply and demand have (by far) the biggest influence on commodity prices.
It's not fucking rocket science.

[Funkmasterr]

Simpy put: Supply and demand have (by far) the biggest influence on commodity prices.
It's not fucking rocket science.

You are still focusing on a small aspect of the post you initially started making snide remarks about - it wasn't only about oil or commodity prices.

However, I would like to see you show the numbers from the supply and (more importantly) demand that brought the oil prices up as absurdly far as they have come over the last two years. I won't argue supply and demand is a big part of the reason, but there are a lot of other big factors, too.

It should be illegal for oil to be treated as a commodity in this country anyhow, so we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

[miir]

It should be illegal for oil to be treated as a commodity in this country anyhow, so we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

Yea, fuck capitalism.

[Funkmasterr]

It should be illegal for oil to be treated as a commodity in this country anyhow, so we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

Yea, fuck capitalism.

Don't hide behind capitalism because this topic involves your line of work.

"Traders" and others buy up oil in large chunks to make money, and that's it. That sounds fine, right? Except when a consequence of them doing this to get rich is the entire rest of the country gets fucked, it's not ok, period. Oil is a necessity for probably 80% or more of the people in this country, they depend on it day to day to live... and people like the fucks you work with are taking advantage of that and it's bullshit that you would consider defending it.

[miir]

Don't hide behind capitalism because this topic involves your line of work.

"Traders" and others buy up oil in large chunks to make money, and that's it. That sounds fine, right? Except when a consequence of them doing this to get rich is the entire rest of the country gets fucked, it's not ok, period. Oil is a necessity for probably 80% or more of the people in this country, they depend on it day to day to live... and people like the fucks you work with are taking advantage of that and it's bullshit that you would consider defending it.

Hahah... please keep posting, this is comedy gold.

[Funkmasterr]

Don't hide behind capitalism because this topic involves your line of work.

"Traders" and others buy up oil in large chunks to make money, and that's it. That sounds fine, right? Except when a consequence of them doing this to get rich is the entire rest of the country gets fucked, it's not ok, period. Oil is a necessity for probably 80% or more of the people in this country, they depend on it day to day to live... and people like the fucks you work with are taking advantage of that and it's bullshit that you would consider defending it.

Hahah... please keep posting, this is comedy gold.

Dude, it's hilarious that you act all high and mighty like you know every fucking thing there is to know about this topic, yet myself and others have tried to engage you on the topic and you just keep making childish one liners.

You are another person on a long list of people that add abso-fucking-lutely nothing to this forum.