McCain will be the next U.S. President (IMO)

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » June 1, 2008, 1:35 pm

LOL, what a woman.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » June 1, 2008, 2:38 pm

Winnow wrote:It's nutjob Hillary supporters like this that will assure McCain is our next president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 1, 2008, 4:38 pm

Nutjob? Unfortunately, that is the label thrust upon any one who speaks the truth these days. Sad.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » June 1, 2008, 6:04 pm

It's not always what you say, but how you say it.

She's a nutjob. If you can't see that, you are too!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 1, 2008, 6:49 pm

Spang wrote:It's not always what you say, but how you say it.

I see what you're saying, but I don't agree. I find her way of speak to be very emphatic and crazy-like, but I don't find her to be a nutjob. I don't believe in being distracted soley by the delivery. Nor do I find myself in awe by the great delivery.....Obama. He can deliver a speech with the best of them, but the substance within his speeches is not good for the Republic of America. I hate Bush's delivery skills, but the substance within those speeches is good stuff, usually.

Animale · Post by **Animale** » June 1, 2008, 7:06 pm

How about this one Mid (I don't agree with everything in it but the sentiment is there at least).

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 416-6.html

Animale

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 1, 2008, 8:44 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 1, 2008, 8:50 pm

Animale wrote:How about this one Mid (I don't agree with everything in it but the sentiment is there at least).

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 416-6.html

Animale

I understand Animale. I don't enitrely agree either.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » June 2, 2008, 1:49 am

Puerto Rican Primary Results wrote: Primary Results: PUERTO RICO

Democratic Primary Results

Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Clinton 263,120 68% 38 Winner
Obama 121,458 32% 17

Republican Primary Results

Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
McCain 188 91% 23 Winner
Huckabee 10 5% 0
Paul 9 4% 0

Wow.... There are almost no republicans in PR! On an unrelated note, I'm starting to be swayed by these Clinton 70/30 victories into thinking McCain is a shoe-in. I'm still not convinced, though, because I find it hard to believe that many people will be motivated to jump parties. Are we not ready for a black president? If not Obama, who? Are there any other black politicians who could pull it off?

There are democrats who would vote McCain over Obama, and democrats who would vote McCain over Hillary... There are also Republicans who might stay home or vote Obama over McCain, who would go vote for McCain over Hillary... I'm in the second camp, but which camp is bigger? Ahhh fuck it, come on November, lets roll the dice.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 2, 2008, 2:56 am

McCain has this election all but wrapped up.

The more wins Hillary gets down the stretch, the more robbed and disgruntled Hillary supporters will get. Old crazy kooks like the lady in the previous video calling Obama an "inadequate black man" and proclaiming that she's going to jump ship and vote for McCain can't hurt either. The old school democrats will follow. The Republicans don't have a lock on racism. You're going to get plenty of democrats that won't vote for Obama, that will vote for McCain when Hillary finally is booted from the scene.

If Obama has any sense at all, Hillary won't be offered the VP spot after her thinly veiled hints of his possible "elimination".

McCain needs to

1. stay healthy
2. avoid saying anything stupid
3. avoid debates after Obama is nominated
4. lose the comb over hairdo. A bald look will gain him a few votes from the younger voters (and a neck tuck)
5. mention how he respected Hillary's campaign efforts and that he thinks she had good intentions (gain a few more Hillary Votes)
6. focus on international affairs when he does have to debate Obama. Barack's extreme lack of experience in that area will hurt him badly when undecided voters make their final decision, with safety and security high on their list.
7. Throw one more bone to the fundies even though he won't follow through with it (we all know they're only acknowledged for the votes)
8. Get bush to stir up some trouble in the Middle East

I'm not happy about McCain as president. He should have been president 4-8 years ago. Age is a factor. Old people (70+) do have issues with health and mental capacity.

Anyway, barring a major development, McCain is our next president, and probably by a sizable margin. More than Bush won by last time. I'd bet all the VV's I won from the last electoral challenge on it if we still had them!

see: previous contest

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » June 2, 2008, 7:20 am

Voters tend to be passionate and overly emotional during primaries and end up calming down and coming together when it becomes my party vs yours. I doubt that many of the "Hillary-or-else" types (even the outspoken ones) will actually feel the same way once the democratic candidate (Obama) is chosen. The only effective way that Obama or Hillary could have a truly detrimental impact on the democrats chances is if they(the loser) were to stray from the party and/or openly support an independent candidate.

As much as we all are driven by our particular ideals or issues when choosing our party's nominee, we will still choose the lesser evil if it's not our primary choice...and that usually keeps us within our party lines. Even the crazy feminazis who worship Clinton will likely go out or send in a ballot for Obama after they have a couple months to step back and realize what a vote for McCain could do to their dreams.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » June 2, 2008, 10:41 am

And what would a vote for McCain (versus a vote for Obama) do to their dreams?

Bojangels · Post by **Bojangels** » June 2, 2008, 10:54 am

I don't know a lot about feminazis, but McCain supports overturning Roe v Wade. I'd guess his stances on war and stem cell research are pretty far off from theirs as well.

I used to think I'd vote for McCain over Hillary, but ultimately it comes down to the issues. I'd support Hillary if she won the nomination, no matter how personally repulsive I find her.

Post by **Sylvus** » June 2, 2008, 11:10 am

Keverian FireCry wrote:Voters tend to be passionate and overly emotional during primaries and end up calming down and coming together when it becomes my party vs yours. I doubt that many of the "Hillary-or-else" types (even the outspoken ones) will actually feel the same way once the democratic candidate (Obama) is chosen. The only effective way that Obama or Hillary could have a truly detrimental impact on the democrats chances is if they(the loser) were to stray from the party and/or openly support an independent candidate.

As much as we all are driven by our particular ideals or issues when choosing our party's nominee, we will still choose the lesser evil if it's not our primary choice...and that usually keeps us within our party lines. Even the crazy feminazis who worship Clinton will likely go out or send in a ballot for Obama after they have a couple months to step back and realize what a vote for McCain could do to their dreams.

I agree with that. I think it's akin to the celebrity threats of moving out of the country if candidate X wins. They don't ever end up moving, they're just trying to "scare" people into behaving the way they want them to. I'll bet even the "nutjob" lady from the above video will vote for Obama, once Hillary is no longer available on the ballot. She's just making a last-ditch effort to make Clinton the Democratic candidate, and it isn't going to work.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » June 2, 2008, 11:12 am

Sylvus wrote:
Keverian FireCry wrote:Voters tend to be passionate and overly emotional during primaries and end up calming down and coming together when it becomes my party vs yours. I doubt that many of the "Hillary-or-else" types (even the outspoken ones) will actually feel the same way once the democratic candidate (Obama) is chosen. The only effective way that Obama or Hillary could have a truly detrimental impact on the democrats chances is if they(the loser) were to stray from the party and/or openly support an independent candidate.

As much as we all are driven by our particular ideals or issues when choosing our party's nominee, we will still choose the lesser evil if it's not our primary choice...and that usually keeps us within our party lines. Even the crazy feminazis who worship Clinton will likely go out or send in a ballot for Obama after they have a couple months to step back and realize what a vote for McCain could do to their dreams.
I agree with that. I think it's akin to the celebrity threats of moving out of the country if candidate X wins. They don't ever end up moving, they're just trying to "scare" people into behaving the way they want them to. I'll bet even the "nutjob" lady from the above video will vote for Obama, once Hillary is no longer available on the ballot. She's just making a last-ditch effort to make Clinton the Democratic candidate, and it isn't going to work.

Is that like posting they're never going to post again on an Internet message board and coming back anyway?

Post by **Sylvus** » June 2, 2008, 11:23 am

Psyloche wrote:Is that like posting they're never going to post again on an Internet message board and coming back anyway?

Precisely! What an astute observation, good work!

Fash · Post by **Fash** » June 2, 2008, 11:28 am

WORST ANALOGY EVER.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » June 2, 2008, 11:39 am

It's a perfect analogy. You just don't like how true it is.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 2, 2008, 1:05 pm

BIGGER PICTURE!

You've got to step back and ignore which candidate is better and understand how people vote in this country. How many people thought Bush was an absolute tool last election and yet he won?

That we know instilling fear is a lame way to get votes doesn't stop it from getting votes.

First thing you do when considering the candidates is completely ignore the pro choice/right to life bullshit. Nothing is going to happen with that. They will never take away Roe V Wade.

Second is stem cells. Stem Cell research will go on no matter what a particular president feels about it. That's just more political posturing.

This all goes back to keeping the fundies happy enough to get their vote.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 2, 2008, 2:30 pm

Winnow wrote:BIGGER PICTURE!

You've got to step back and ignore which candidate is better and understand how people vote in this country. How many people thought Bush was an absolute tool last election and yet he won?

That we know instilling fear is a lame way to get votes doesn't stop it from getting votes.

First thing you do when considering the candidates is completely ignore the pro choice/right to life bullshit. Nothing is going to happen with that. They will never take away Roe V Wade.

Second is stem cells. Stem Cell research will go on no matter what a particular president feels about it. That's just more political posturing.

This all goes back to keeping the fundies happy enough to get their vote.

McCain better do a better job scaring people, he is losing...

PRINCETON, NJ -- Large majorities of Democrats and independents, and even half of Republicans, believe the president of the United States should meet with the leaders of countries that are considered enemies of the United States. Overall, 67% of Americans say this kind of diplomacy is a good idea.

This is according to a Gallup Panel survey of a representative national sample of 1,013 Americans, conducted May 19-21.

Although separate Gallup polling shows that few Americans view Iran favorably, and that Iran leads Americans' list of top U.S. enemies in the world, the new Gallup survey also finds high public support for presidential-level meetings between the United States and Iran, specifically.

About 6 in 10 Americans (59%) think it would be a good idea for the president of the United States to meet with the president of Iran. This includes about half of Republicans, a majority of independents, and most Democrats.

Both positions enjoy broad popular appeal, with majorities of men, women, younger and older Americans, and those from different regions of the country all saying direct presidential-level talks with Iran and other enemies are a good idea.

The issue of using presidential diplomacy with U.S. enemies distinguishes Barack Obama from the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, John McCain, and even from his opponent for the Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton.

Obama is the only one of the three who has said he would personally meet with the leaders of countries like Iran, Syria, Cuba, and Venezuela as president, and he recently defended his position by saying "strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries." Clinton has criticized Obama's approach as "naïve," and McCain has been unrelenting in his attacks on the issue, accusing Obama of being dangerously inexperienced and having "reckless judgment."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107617/Ameri ... emies.aspx

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 2, 2008, 2:43 pm

If the entire vote was determined by one issue, McCain would be in trouble! 18% of the people that think meeting with the enemy is a good idea need to determine their vote based on other issues for that to be negated.

The follow up to that poll would be to ask how many of those polled consider that the #1 issue in determining the next president.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 2, 2008, 2:47 pm

If McCain loses the war argument what else does he have? There is a reason it is the only thing he wants to talk about.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 2, 2008, 2:51 pm

Forthe wrote:If McCain loses the war argument what else does he have? There is a reason it is the only thing he wants to talk about.

I was thinking the reason might be that it's the hottest topic right now pretty much, has been for quite a while, and will continue to be so for a while yet. That and it is the opinion he (and others) receive the most feedback on.. I think implying that the only thing he cares about/knows about is the war is going a tad (or a lot) too far.

Post by **Sylvus** » June 2, 2008, 2:55 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
Forthe wrote:If McCain loses the war argument what else does he have? There is a reason it is the only thing he wants to talk about.
I was thinking the reason might be that it's the hottest topic right now pretty much, has been for quite a while, and will continue to be so for a while yet. That and it is the opinion he (and others) receive the most feedback on.. I think implying that the only thing he cares about/knows about is the war is going a tad (or a lot) too far.

What are some of his domestic policies that you agree with?

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 2, 2008, 2:56 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
Forthe wrote:If McCain loses the war argument what else does he have? There is a reason it is the only thing he wants to talk about.
I was thinking the reason might be that it's the hottest topic right now pretty much, has been for quite a while, and will continue to be so for a while yet. That and it is the opinion he (and others) receive the most feedback on.. I think implying that the only thing he cares about/knows about is the war is going a tad (or a lot) too far.

That wasn't very smart. It is a hot topic right now only because McCain and Obama are making it a hot topic. Look at exit polls if you want to see what is important right now (Its the economy stupid). They both think they can win the argument. McCain's problem is he is a one trick pony.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 2, 2008, 3:29 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
Forthe wrote:If McCain loses the war argument what else does he have? There is a reason it is the only thing he wants to talk about.
I was thinking the reason might be that it's the hottest topic right now pretty much, has been for quite a while, and will continue to be so for a while yet. That and it is the opinion he (and others) receive the most feedback on.. I think implying that the only thing he cares about/knows about is the war is going a tad (or a lot) too far.
What are some of his domestic policies that you agree with?

Why are you even asking me that question? I have stated somewhere in the neighborhood of a billion times here already that I don't really care for him, I just don't want Jay Z to be my next president. I wasn't defending his view on the war or anything else, just stating that Forthe implying that he is a one trick pony is a tad absurd.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 2, 2008, 3:49 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
Sylvus wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:
Forthe wrote:If McCain loses the war argument what else does he have? There is a reason it is the only thing he wants to talk about.
I was thinking the reason might be that it's the hottest topic right now pretty much, has been for quite a while, and will continue to be so for a while yet. That and it is the opinion he (and others) receive the most feedback on.. I think implying that the only thing he cares about/knows about is the war is going a tad (or a lot) too far.
What are some of his domestic policies that you agree with?
Why are you even asking me that question? I have stated somewhere in the neighborhood of a billion times here already that I don't really care for him, I just don't want Jay Z to be my next president. I wasn't defending his view on the war or anything else, just stating that Forthe implying that he is a one trick pony is a tad absurd.

Because if you hold a different opinion than the borg, then you must explain yourself a billion times over until you are made a fool of. You must be attacked. Your opinion cannot be valid and you must be an asshole for saying the things you do. You must agree. You must.

Animale · Post by **Animale** » June 2, 2008, 3:59 pm

The only things Obama and Jay-Z have in common is that their fathers left them early in life and they are both married to successful African-American women. Nothing else in their background is remotely similar except for the color of their skin.

Calling Obama Jay-Z is nothing other than a weak attempt at equating Obama with the violence and drug use of inner-city black culture, of which he has no experience with whatsoever. Obama graduated from High School is Hawaii for peets sake, Jay-Z went to school in Brooklyn and Trenton. Obama graduated from Harvard Law, Jay-Z dropped out of George Westinghouse Information Technology High School. Oh wait, they are both black so they must think the same!!!

Asshole.

Animale

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 2, 2008, 4:04 pm

Yeah, Funk!

Not all Obamas are alike.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » June 2, 2008, 4:07 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Because if you hold a different opinion than the borg, then you must explain yourself a billion times over until you are made a fool of. You must be attacked. Your opinion cannot be valid and you must be an asshole for saying the things you do. You must agree. You must.

I don't think anyone has a problem with people having different opinions, just opinions that are demonstrably stupid and uninformed. I know the fact that this describes most of the opinions offered by you and the fellow members of your troupe of retarded poo-flinging monkeys confuses you into thinking that people here hate all ideas different from their own. That's your problem, though, not everyone else's.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 2, 2008, 4:11 pm

Animale wrote:The only things Obama and Jay-Z have in common is that their fathers left them early in life and they are both married to successful African-American women. Nothing else in their background is remotely similar except for the color of their skin.

Calling Obama Jay-Z is nothing other than a weak attempt at equating Obama with the violence and drug use of inner-city black culture, of which he has no experience with whatsoever. Obama graduated from High School is Hawaii for peets sake, Jay-Z went to school in Brooklyn and Trenton. Obama graduated from Harvard Law, Jay-Z dropped out of George Westinghouse Information Technology High School. Oh wait, they are both black so they must think the same!!!

Asshole.

Animale

Dude you are a fucking idiot.

I was referring to my post in another thread where obama "brushed his shoulders off" on a video, which is something made popular recently by Jay Z's song. I have no time for this bullshit from a serious political candidate. EDIT* (allow me to clarify: I have no time for a candidate who is going to bring any ghetto urban culture into politics, as it has no place there.)

If you didn't get my reference, you should have shut your fucking mouth. Asshole.

Post by **Sylvus** » June 2, 2008, 4:21 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:Dude you are a fucking idiot.

I was referring to my post in another thread where obama "brushed his shoulders off" on a video, which is something made popular recently by Jay Z's song. I have no time for this bullshit from a serious political candidate. EDIT* (allow me to clarify: I have no time for a candidate who is going to bring any ghetto urban culture into politics, as it has no place there.)

If you didn't get my reference, you should have shut your fucking mouth. Asshole.

It's much more of a pop culture reference than a ghetto urban culture reference. It hit #5 on the Billboard hot 100 singles chart, which doesn't happen for strictly urban music. Jay Z might be the self-proclaimed "best rapper alive", but he's a pop artist now.

I, for one, prefer a presidential candidate who is in touch with the society that he will potentially lead. I'd rather someone lead who I had things in common with, in addition to his policies. A 71 year-old doesn't fit that mold as well.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 2, 2008, 4:25 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:Dude you are a fucking idiot.

I was referring to my post in another thread where obama "brushed his shoulders off" on a video, which is something made popular recently by Jay Z's song. I have no time for this bullshit from a serious political candidate. EDIT* (allow me to clarify: I have no time for a candidate who is going to bring any ghetto urban culture into politics, as it has no place there.)

If you didn't get my reference, you should have shut your fucking mouth. Asshole.
It's much more of a pop culture reference than a ghetto urban culture reference. It hit #5 on the Billboard hot 100 singles chart, which doesn't happen for strictly urban music. Jay Z might be the self-proclaimed "best rapper alive", but he's a pop artist now.

I, for one, prefer a presidential candidate who is in touch with the society that he will potentially lead. I'd rather someone lead who I had things in common with, in addition to his policies. A 71 year-old doesn't fit that mold as well.

Yeah, and I'm sure some kids think that it would be cool to have their favorite cartoon/tv show character as parents at some point. But having things in common isn't as important as them knowing the best way to handle the country, and having barney for your dad would fucking suck.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 2, 2008, 4:27 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:I wasn't defending his view on the war or anything else, just stating that Forthe implying that he is a one trick pony is a tad absurd.

Earlier today...

Obama:
And now it seems like all Senator McCain is talking about on the campaign trail is Iraq - instead of offering real solutions to the problems you face every day.
In fact, Senator McCain conceded not long ago that he didn’t know much about the economy. That’s not his interest. That’s not his priority. But it will be mine.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds:
Barack Obama appears desperate to divert attention from his weak judgment on foreign policy. Barack Obama failed to support the ‘Surge’ strategy that drastically reduced violence in Iraq, he’s failed to meet with General Petraeus, and failed to see the conditions first-hand in Iraq for 875 days. With a miserable absence of dealing with the on-going issues in Iraq, Barack Obama’s shift in focus amounts to little more than damage control.

ONE...TRICK...PONY

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 2, 2008, 4:50 pm

Xatrei wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Because if you hold a different opinion than the borg, then you must explain yourself a billion times over until you are made a fool of. You must be attacked. Your opinion cannot be valid and you must be an asshole for saying the things you do. You must agree. You must.
I don't think anyone has a problem with people having different opinions, just opinions that are demonstrably stupid and uninformed. I know the fact that this describes most of the opinions offered by you and the fellow members of your troupe of retarded poo-flinging monkeys confuses you into thinking that people here hate all ideas different from their own. That's your problem, though, not everyone else's.

Thank you for proving my point.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » June 2, 2008, 5:49 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Thank you for proving my point.

I should be thanking you for proving mine. Once again, you don't get the fact that you are not "everyone." I don't think anyone with whom I disagree is an idiot or an asshole, just a narrow group of people whose opinions have, time and time again, proven to be demonstrably bad (when not downright stupid) or willfully uninformed. I suspect this holds true for most people on this forum that you accuse of hating or demonizing you or your buddies. Your inability to see the distinction serves only to reinforce my opinion.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 2, 2008, 6:58 pm

Xatrei wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Thank you for proving my point.
I should be thanking you for proving mine. Once again, you don't get the fact that you are not "everyone." I don't think anyone with whom I disagree is an idiot or an asshole, just a narrow group of people whose opinions have, time and time again, proven to be demonstrably bad (when not downright stupid) or willfully uninformed. I suspect this holds true for most people on this forum that you accuse of hating or demonizing you or your buddies. Your inability to see the distinction serves only to reinforce my opinion.

It's too bad you feel that way. I wish you could better compartmentalize. Your broad generalities are terribly misplaced and inaccurate.

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » June 2, 2008, 8:59 pm

Obama is about to take another hit..Whitey!

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » June 2, 2008, 9:07 pm

What the fuck does that even mean?

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » June 2, 2008, 9:08 pm

Sirton wrote:Obama is about to take another hit..Whitey!

And he is a secret muslim!!!!!

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » June 2, 2008, 9:24 pm

there is suppose to be a tape released out either tomarrow by Clinton Dems or in october by Republicans of obamas wife talking about whitey this whitey that in the Trinity church with farahkan sitting on the panel while shes spouting it.

I would normally call B.S. But why is Hillary still in the race. both democrat and republican sources have reported it being out there......Also a network has it.

Getting more info on it this atm...hold up.

Clinton people saying tape of Michelle Obama denoucing White people at United Trinity. Carl Rove is making a 527 for October surprise...Clinton people are trying to get the tape ASAP...Obama people have the tape too from a obama source, but want to leek the tape themselves after he secures the nomination and to do this at a time they can control the spin on this. This is why he probally why he left his Church this week.

Im thinking this maybe Clinton Spin Doctors at last ditch effort to steal the election...With the Super Delegates.....Or its true.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » June 2, 2008, 9:54 pm

Weird. I didn't even know Michelle Obama was running.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 2, 2008, 9:56 pm

It wouldn't be stealing the election. It is a very tight race. It will be spun as her stealing it, but it isn't. It's politics.

A black man can be elected president. This primary season has taught us that. However, it will not elect a black man who's a racist.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » June 2, 2008, 10:04 pm

Any proof to back up your claim that Barack Obama is a racist?

Animale · Post by **Animale** » June 2, 2008, 10:24 pm

First he's a super-secret muslim. Then he's an elitist. Now he's an undercover racist. Next he'll be a closet homosexual. Whispers will then fly that he's a lover of little boys. Finally, he'll be a kiddy porn dealer and/or one of the biggest spammers on the internet.

Gotta love politics.

Animale

p.s. Edited to add personal attack - what the hell this is VV.

Isn't being a racist something where it takes one to know one?

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » June 3, 2008, 2:14 am

Animale wrote:Next he'll be a closet homosexual.

Pretty sure some manwhore already tried that one on him.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 3, 2008, 2:56 am

According to some on this board, if Obama was friends with any homosexuals, that makes him one by proxy.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » June 3, 2008, 9:16 am

Spang wrote:Any proof to back up your claim that Barack Obama is a racist?

Well, I'm pretty certain if McCain was found to attend a church that preached seperatism, McCain would be labeled a racist. It doesn't work both ways?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » June 3, 2008, 9:34 am

So, no proof?

Post by **Sylvus** » June 3, 2008, 11:59 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Spang wrote:Any proof to back up your claim that Barack Obama is a racist?
Well, I'm pretty certain if McCain was found to attend a church that preached seperatism, McCain would be labeled a racist. It doesn't work both ways?

I'm sorry, I've only seen the Church's official stance of trying to uplift black people while not trying to bring anyone else down. When did they become a separatist church?