Most burglars want to avoid confrontations.Fash wrote:What do you want to reach for when you wake up to the sounds of broken glass?
Ummmm... Just this week 2 people broke into a house and raped the 2 girls living there In my town. Good thing noone had a gun huh? Cause rape isnt a bad thing.miir wrote:Most burglars want to avoid confrontations.Fash wrote:What do you want to reach for when you wake up to the sounds of broken glass?
They don't break into a home to murder someone.
You don't have to defend yourself from someone who has no intention of harming you.
If you confront an armed intruder with a firearm, chances are one or both of you are going to get shot.
If you don't confront an armed intruder, chances are nobody is going to get shot.
I was curious about this since I know that particular caliber, while often employed as a sniper round, is not meant for extreme long range (i.e. .50 BMG).My ONLY firearm is a 1943 Moisin Nagant. No pistols, no assault weapons. 1 collectable WWII bolt action rifle. Able to kill someone 2 miles away.
1300 meters is accurate range, deadly range would be beyond 4 miles. More than double of my evil AKS.Canelek wrote:I was curious about this since I know that particular caliber, while often employed as a sniper round, is not meant for extreme long range (i.e. .50 BMG).My ONLY firearm is a 1943 Moisin Nagant. No pistols, no assault weapons. 1 collectable WWII bolt action rifle. Able to kill someone 2 miles away.
7.62x54mmR
Effective Range: 1300 meters
Grandpa lied to you.
Spang wrote:No one got shot and killed?
What single man brought down the Roman republic? I don't recall this human catastrophe from my studies of history...Noysyrump wrote:The Roman Republic lasted 500 years before a single man brought it down.
Do what you can to prevent that from happening to this one...
Wulfran wrote:What single man brought down the Roman republic? I don't recall this human catastrophe from my studies of history...Noysyrump wrote:The Roman Republic lasted 500 years before a single man brought it down.
Do what you can to prevent that from happening to this one...
I'm much more interested in a scenerio, any scenerio, where the American citizens would be called upon to step up and actively overthrow our government. How the people would coordinate to take on our own armed forces and win is only secondary. Just give me that much, Noysyrump. Tell me what our leaders would have to do in order to inspire this uprising. Use your imagination. I want to know the justification for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans by firearms.Sylvus wrote:So a handgun under your pillow, or in the inside pocket of your jacket, is going to help you overthrow the US Government? I'd be interested to hear some of the logistics of that. A military coup, using the weapons most often employed when committing violent crimes, versus the strongest military in the world (no offense to America haters!) sounds like it'll go over swimmingly.
Putting a gun into the equation would have only complicated things further. The facts are all over the internet and in several other threads within this forum.Noysyrump wrote:Nope just raped. But thats not a bad thing to have happen to you right? Death could still follow mind you from a rape. HIV anyone?
Must be. He only looks 90 there!Canelek wrote:Winnow pointing out thread derailing is an interesting paradox...
Was that picture of McCain from 1972?
Spang wrote:Putting a gun into the equation would have only complicated things further. The facts are all over the internet and in several other threads within this forum.Noysyrump wrote:Nope just raped. But thats not a bad thing to have happen to you right? Death could still follow mind you from a rape. HIV anyone?
So, you rather be dead?I would rather the complication over suprise butsex.
I would.Spang wrote:So, you rather be dead?I would rather the complication over suprise butsex.
No. I'd rather have the ability to stop it, by shooting his weewee off, or scaring him away, or buying me the time to escape.Spang wrote:So, you rather be dead?I would rather the complication over suprise butsex.
I believe he either helped change them, or he stepped up enforcement. His response to questions about gun control really irks me for some reason. It is not that I view it as an important topic to me, but it is the way he reacts to being asked. He claims responsibility for cleaning the guns off of the streets of New York City, but he also says he would not recommend it be done everywhere. Basically, he wants to be responsible for the NYC streets being "cleaner," but he doesn't want anyone to think he was "for" it.Sueven wrote:Did he change NYC's gun laws?It is at present... 10 years ago, guaranteed mugging in central park after dark... Guiliony (sp) did a good job cleaning it up in recent years. (wich is of course why he was running for pres.)
I don't own any guns. I just respect the right of American citizens to legally own them.Fairweather Pure wrote:Yeah, you guys with guns sure makes me feel safe and secure!
Boogahz wrote:The Phelps family is hardly a true representation of Kansas.Leonaerd wrote:If Kansas can't handle some homos, I don't think they can rise to this occasion.
Yea, try 2006?Noysyrump wrote:San Diego. To be honest, I cant remeber if the crime happened this week or the conviction (on the radio, loud shop = didnt hear some of it). Also note, there were 2 other males living in the house also, who were tied and beaten.
Obama speaks here in Phoenix tomorrow around 3:30pm. I thought about going but am not going to make it. A friend is going so I'll get the scoop from him.Moonwynd wrote: On another note, I went and saw Senator Obama in person today in El Dorado, KS. What a powerful, powerful speaker. I believe in his passion, zeal and committment. I hope the rest of America can truly see who will be best for this country - and who can restore respect to us in the international community and who will lookout for the middle and lower class.
Not sure why it being 2 years old rather then 2 weeks old makes it less sad.Yea, try 2006?
Tyek wrote:Not sure why it being 2 years old rather then 2 weeks old makes it less sad.Yea, try 2006?
miir wrote:Point being that I could link hundreds of incidents that have occured since 2006 where homeowners have been shot when confronting an armed intruder
Where do those guns come from?Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:People that are convicted felons are not allowed to own a gun. They still manage to obtain them and keep them and then use them.
Thieves? So you propose to stop letting peopel have guns legally because people will steal them and sell them to bad guys? Seriously? Yeah, why work on the real problem of toughening up on criminals? Silly.Sylvus wrote:Where do those guns come from?Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:People that are convicted felons are not allowed to own a gun. They still manage to obtain them and keep them and then use them.
@ killmoll.
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani ended his GOP presidential race and endorsed rival Sen. John McCain of Arizona on Wednesday.
And sources say California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger might endorse McCain on Thursday.
"This is a man who is prepared to be president," Giuliani said of his "old friend."
Giuliani said McCain gives the Republican Party the best chance to hold onto the presidency.
"I am very proud to endorse my friend and fellow Republican -- a hero -- John McCain," Giuliani said at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley California, two hours before the Republican presidential candidates were to face each other in their final debate before the Super Tuesday contests next week.
Meanwhile, two Republican sources told CNN that California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is in discussions about endorsing McCain.
He'll get a cabinet seat...I'm thinking homeland security. (not that I want him to)Canelek wrote:Of course Giuliani is going to give a ringing endorsement to the current frontrunner. If he cannot cash in on someone else's success, he will cease to be remembered. And that, he cannot handle.
Noysyrump wrote:Thats been the democrat line forever. Ban teh guns, dey da debil.
That was the thing that converted me from a registered democrat to a card holding gun toting republican. Guns are our right, to protect us from the government! So trying to ban them really sets off my alarm.
