Lost

[Kaldaur]

Also, from checking the tailsection.com, everyone's money is on Charlie dying. We know Desmond ends up down in the Looking Glass with Charlie, then Mikhail shows up somehow, and there's a fight. My money is either on Desmond lying, or Charlie really is going to die. Remember, Desmond said Charlie was going to flip the switch and then he'd drown. He lived because he hasn't switched it yet.

[Ennia]

I don't watch Lost anymore but I heard an interview with one of actors on the radio today (Michael Emerson/Ben), guy said this season's finale today will be bloody and we're gonna say good bye to a few characters we've known for a really long time, sounded like some folks who've been there from season 1 at least.
he also said to pay attention to last scene and last words spoken, it will make you rewind and check if you really heard what you thought you heard

[Lynks]

I think they killed him off just for the sake of killing someone off...and that makes me mad. A normal person would of exited the room THEN shut the door not stay inside. Totally unnecessary.


The ending however had me going WTF. Especially since Jack made several comments about his father.

[Kaldaur]

Yes. If that was the future, how was his father still alive?
We were meant to believe that it was in the past, up until the end. That's when it clicked that it was the future. So how was his father alive?

Time to check all the other sites, they'll have to scoop.

Charlie will be coming back. The timeline and how events may not move at normal time will be central in the upcoming days. Desmond has already shown his ability to alter time. Something is going to happen where events change the course of what transpired after they left the island.

[Akanae]

I think they killed him off just for the sake of killing someone off...and that makes me mad. A normal person would of exited the room THEN shut the door not stay inside. Totally unnecessary.


The ending however had me going WTF. Especially since Jack made several comments about his father.

Yeah he could have shut the door - or swam out the window. I think his death was uncalled for.

[redeemed]

jack made two comments about his father.. one in the hospital when he was hopped up on oxy and drunk (so possible crazy ranting) the other when he was trying to fill his prescription and the nurse was going to call his dad and jack told her "well just forget it then"
I think the two scenarios leave room for speculation whether or not jack's dad is in fact alive.

then there's my whole theory of there being alternate realities and time travelling that I won't even go into ;p

good end of season.. I'll have to put lost out of my mind for a few months now so I don't go crazy

[Kaldaur]

It is time travel. The only way they can "go back" to the island is if they travel back in time to get there.

(Just my speculation)

John Locke is Jacob and he needs help because things didn't work out the way they were supposed to. Kate was married to Sawyer and that's why she couldn't talk to Jack.
If they are going to time travel or find out info about the island, the one person they could talk to would be Ben. And guess who's funeral was just held? Ben's. They won't be getting any easy answers out of him in the future time, that's for sure. That's why no one was at the funeral; no one mourned his passing.

I think the next season or two is going to be flash forwards, to see how people's lives turned out after they left the island. I don't think we'll be seeing too many flashbacks anymore; instead we'll see how shitty people's lives turned out since they left the island at the wrong time.

We'll be seeing how things happened after the radio transmission all the way to rescue, and then the future will be about the castaways getting back together and figuring out a way to get back to the island.

P.S. Charlie will be back. He is too integral to Claire's story; he'll be back once they figure out how to correct the timeline.

I am so excited for January!

[Sylvus]

I think they killed him off just for the sake of killing someone off...and that makes me mad. A normal person would of exited the room THEN shut the door not stay inside. Totally unnecessary.


The ending however had me going WTF. Especially since Jack made several comments about his father.

Yeah he could have shut the door - or swam out the window. I think his death was uncalled for.

You forget that his dying fulfilled Desmond's prophecy and that he wanted to die so that Claire and the baby could be rescued. Sure he could have gone out of the door and then closed and locked it, but that would have defeated the whole purpose for why he went down to the Looking Glass in the first place. He had already accepted his fate.

[Dregor Thule]

Oi. I think Kaldaur's probably pretty close. Still haven't processed it all.

[Lalanae]

I think it was Locke's funeral personally. Jack wouldn't have been so upset over Ben's death. There's no one in Locke's life who would have show up at his funeral. Locke was pretty much hated by the group for joining the others, and killing Naomi to prevent her for calling for help only worsened their impression of him. So its perfectly understandable why Kate acted the way she did when his death came up. Jack putting his hand on the coffin was a sign of his regret for not trusting Locke. He in effect was saying "You were right." Jack would never have been upset over Ben's death even if Ben was right about whatever it is that happened, not after all Ben did. Despite their ongoing power struggle, Locke and Jack recognized each other as "good men," and they always had a connection. Ben was an evil fuck and even when Jack was caring for him medically, he never seemed very friendly to Ben.

Gonna be hard waiting til next season. Nice to see Walt, even if it was just his form. Charlie's death can be reversed! I believe it!

[Dregor Thule]

Yeah, I was coming to post that I think it was Locke's as well. I liked how they had dropped hints saying that they wanted to get away from the flashback format of the show.. to FLASHFORWARDS.

Charlie will be back.

[Kaldaur]

Ahh, good call. I didn't think that it could have been Locke.
The only thing I can think in reply is that if Jacob is Locke, how would he have returned to the real world? Isn't Jacob trapped on the island? This is of course assuming that Jacob is Locke, which is a stretch so far.

[Lynks]

Ahh, good call. I didn't think that it could have been Locke.
The only thing I can think in reply is that if Jacob is Locke, how would he have returned to the real world? Isn't Jacob trapped on the island? This is of course assuming that Jacob is Locke, which is a stretch so far.

It could be a different time line, kinda like that Star Trek TNG episode, where Locke is Jacob and the guy that died. If this is true, this could be the second time they live through this. Something big could of happened where Locke was still alive and went back in time to try and change things (Jacob). This time line could of went wrong once again but people made it off the island and then Locke dies.

This could explain finding people dead in the plane and how Desmond can see into the future since he already lived through it once.

Just a crazy theory though.

[Boogahz]

As if it were not confusing already, apparently next season will have flashbacks AND flash-forwards!

[Lalanae]

woohoo!! I love non-linear narratives!

[Dregor Thule]

woohoo!! I love non-linear narratives!

But it makes it so hard to follow the story! I wish they'd just lay everything out in front of me with all the answers to all the questions so I didn't have to think while watching it

[Kaldaur]

I loved the show's layout in the first three seasons. The flashbacks were a golden opportunity for us to get to know the characters and the troubles they had in their lives. This gave us a sense of who they are and it made us care about them. I think Dregor and I had a discussion earlier in this thread about how the "extra" episodes were or were not contributing to the story line. I think now, with the introduction of flash forwards, we've accepted that we've learned as much as we need to about these characters and their troubles. Now, it's time to start focusing on the end game and looking to the future so we can see what happened afterwards. Like Dregor said, we know enough about these characters now to already feel the things we do. Now it's time to find some resolution.

[Sylvus]

Lost spoilers for next season, anyone?

Feeling jilted by ABC's apparent higher regard for conventioneering nerds, TV critics at the TCAs coerce network president Steve McPherson into revealing news about the return of a cherished Lost character to the series, a super-top-secret development he'd hoped to break to fans at Comic-Con. Following the link provided will likely spoil the entire upcoming season for you, so click at your own peril.

The link in question follows.

BE FOREWARNED THAT CLICKING THIS LINK MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

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That's too bad, I really hate that guy! Great, we'll have to hear him crying about Walt more. Or will Walt be with him?

[Lalanae]

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I don't think that's a big spoiler. The creators said he would be back a long time ago (in an interview). Plus, I think that with all the unresolved mystery around Walt, it was a given that they'd have to come back at some point.

Now my theories:

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Originally I thought that it was Locke in the coffin, but I'm now more inclined to think it's Michael based on some spoilers and theories on Lostpedia. I'll summarize them in a 2nd spoiler tag below because it may be more that anyone wants to know. Also, one thing has always bugged me. Walt's mother died of a blood disorder that was never named. I'm guessing that whatever weirdness is going on with Walt has to do with his mother's blood disorder and that somehow it is linked to the island. How come we never see how Michael and his ex met or the pre-pregnancy part of their relationship? It may just be the unimportant past, but most of the time we see how people in a relationship meet. At any rate, I think I'll see more of Walt's mother in flashbacks next season.

OK, the spoiler info I mentioned (some unsubstantiated and some theoretical):

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Blown up screenshots of the newspaper article have been around since the episoide aired, but only select words could be read (see below). The name is most likely an alias, since no one on the show has a last name that ends in "ntham" and it would make sense that Michael would use an alias. Michael is also from New York.

"The body of Jo...[unreadable]...[a]ntham of
New York was discovered shortly after 4
a.m. in the...[unreadable]...of Grand
Avenue. Ted [lastname], [a door]man at The
Tower...[unreadable]...heard loud
noises...[unreadable]...antham's loft.
[unreadable]... [sa]fety, he co[nfessed]
[unreadable]...discovered the
[unreadable]...a beam in the
[unreadable]...[ac]cordin[g]...[unreadable]..."

Someone leaked an unconfirmed full version of the text which points to Michael even more:

"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue. Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft. Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room. According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham (sic) is survived by one teenaged son. Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."

Teenaged son, reason to commit suicide, Kate's disdain, Jack's sympathy... It makes sense to me. Provided the leaked article is the real deal.

[Dregor Thule]

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Interesting, interesting. I'm not really surprised he'll be back, although he had better not be screaming about his boy this time. Who am I kidding, of course he will be. If that full newspaper excerpt is accurate, you're right, it definitely points towards Michael.

[Lalanae]

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Another thing. If that newspaper clipping is the real deal, what were the loud noises that "Ted" heard? What loud noises would one make just before hanging himself? Could it have something to do with a particularly noisy "monster?" Probably not, but I bet there is more to the noises heard, no matter who ends up in that coffin.

Have I mentioned lately how much I love this show? lol

[Lalanae]

Speaking of the "blood disorder" that Walt's mom died of...

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According to info from the virtual reality game The Lost Experience, Alvar Hanso had something unusual about his blood, something that his doctor cautioned could cause heart problems. There are theories that Hanso came from the island, that he was older than he appeared. That he was on the Black Rock originally. My prediction is that we will find out that Walt's mom also came from the island, one of the slaves from the Black Rock. Pregnancy being a problem on the island, it would make sense that she'd hook up with someone to get pregnant. If the island "blessed" her with a long life, then that would explain why Walt is "special."

I don't see this theory on Lostpedia yet!

[Dregor Thule]

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I think Walt's mom being from the island is pushing it, although she is a big enough bitch to have been!

[Kaldaur]

This show makes me wish I could be a television writer and sit in a room all day, thinking up new ways to make my fans pull out their hair in frustration/love for the show.
I think Season 3's finale will revitalize the show and give it some new direction. I, for one, am interested to see which direction they're going to take the new flash-forwards.

I think we only have one or two years before Charlie comes back

[Lalanae]

A few more things from The Lost Experience that may provide some insight into Walt's mother:

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Magnus Hanso was the captain of the Black Rock, a slaving ship that disappeared in 1881. Magnus is reportedly Alvar Hanso's grand-father, but it's been theorized that Magnus is Alvar, that he is masquerading as his own grandson to cover his immortal leanings in the world. As I mentioned before, his blood was abonormal and life-threatening, whick is a strong link to Susan's abnormal blood. These two are connected somehow.

(Note: Hanso is originally spelled with the "o" replaced with the Danish symbol of an "o" with a line through it. With this spelling, it means "his island" in Danish, possibly a clue left by the creators or maybe just creative wordplay with no direct significance.)

There was a "servant named Lloyd" mentioned on one of the LE websites whose son was responsible for saving the life of a yellow lab puppy born to a black lab owned by the Porter family in Australia (recall that Brian Porter was Susan's husband). This yellow lab (named "Wally") saved Dr. Vincent "Wally" Bole when he was a kid. The guy was born in 1938, so presumably this dog is one of Vincent the dog's ancestors and the "servant Lloyd" had to be old enough when Wally was born to have his/her own son. (Note the Dr. took Wally the dog's name as his nickname and later studied the dog as having psychic abilities). The Lloyd/Porter connection in the ~1930's isn't coincidence and this story was written for a reason. Either Susan is a descendent of this Lloyd or the servant was Susan. The latter story makes sense if you assume Susan came from the island, worked as a servant in Australia (typical work for a former slave), and in later years purposely developed an attachment to a Porter descendent, maybe to relive some former Porter attachment? If that's the case, then Susan would have had a son back in the 1930's. If Susan was a decendent, maybe she is the daughter of the servant's son. In that case, her later connection to Porter may just be some familial connection. Certainly the less interesting theory! I'm putting my money on Susan being a former slave! Plenty of WTF in that story!

At the very least, the story suggests an interesting past for Vincent.

[Lalanae]

Speaking of Charlie, I just read that Dominic Monaghan and Evangeline Lilly (Kate) are an item, and a serious one at that! Kinda weird and cute!

[Dregor Thule]

Yea, I thought she was knocked up with his kid tbh, but I guess I was wrong!

What exactly is this Lost Experience?

[Lalanae]

it is/was an alternate reality game by the Lost creators. Best explanation here: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience

[Lalanae]

ROFL! From the spoof wikipedia site Uncyclopedia:

Lost is actually named after the state of mind one finds themself in when watching the television comedy LOST.

Watching Lost creates a Lost factor, which creates Lost fanboys and fangirls, the latter being obssessed with the Sawyer. Watching too many episodes of Lost will result in another factor, a sub-factor of the Lost factor, called Lost Interest.

The TV show itself focuses on 42 people on Monkey Island looking for/running from polar bears, Udders, falling planes, holes in the ground, giant magnets, and each other.

Lovable yet evil Vincent is the main character, who is slowly but surely killing off the rest of the cast. It is yet to be revealed how he does this. The series creators have, though, dropped clues that it has something to do with ranch dressing.

He is accompanied by funny-man Hurley who is looking to spend his fortune made from selling exotic kittens. Also on the island is Charlie Hobbiton, who is searching for the one hatch of POWER. Sex symbol and highly adored Kate is a psychopathic serial killer, with an inexplicable lust for toy airplanes. She is also at the centre of the island's infamous love tetrahedron™, which includes most the cast, including Sawyer, Jack, Claire, Sun, Sayid, Wilson and Vincent. Locke is also a relevant character who hasn't died yet.

The show is currently in its third season, and is watched by over 10 people worldwide, making it one of the most popular TV shows in the world, ever. It has already been picked up by the XYZ network for 108 more seasons, which the writers claim is the minimum required to completely cover their whole story.

Many wonder where the writers get all their ideas from, though the evidence points to the several tons of crack that get delivered to their offices each month.

More at http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29 Funny stuff!

LOL:

Elsewhere, down in that weird hatch, Desmond is suspicious that, perhaps, Charlie was not able to complete the necessary mission of drowning himself and so goes down to investigate. There, he finds Charlie being raped once again, so he decides to perv in the cupboard. Just then, Mikhail appears from the water, having drowned, but not at "lethal depth". Charlie then makes a statement about signal jamming that confuses viewers, writers, actors etc., which sends Mikhail crazy. He decides to kill everyone, but Desmond shoots him with the harpoon gun he happened to be carrying.

[Kaldaur]

LOL, I love it. "Locke also happens to be another main character that hasn't been killed off yet."

[cid]

Well I had downloaded the entire 3rd season and watched it this weekend. Man this show rocks!!

Season four does not start until Feb?

[Lalanae]

January. A glorious month, seeing that Battlestar Gallactica (my other TV addiction) also starts back up then.

[Kaldaur]

Yep, the two best shows on television (and now that I'm watching Heroes, my top 3 have been picked out.)

[Boogahz]

So, Lost starts back up in January?

[Sylvus]

I thought it was in this thread somewhere, but I remember reading an article a while back that ABC had committed to 3 more 15-18 episode seasons (I forget exactly what, I want to say I heard 48-55 more episodes). Each of those seasons will be starting in January of the next 3 years, and run without interruption until the season is done. The creators/writers said something about having an endpoint in mind and being able to completely tell the story in those episodes.

/edit: here is the info I was referencing.

In a potentially paradigm-shifting play, ABC has agreed to let the producers of "Lost" set an expiration date for the series -- three years in the future.
Skein will now wrap after the production of 48 additional episodes that will be divided into three, shortened 16-episode seasons. Final episode -- the show's 119th -- will air during the 2009-10 season.

In conjunction with the advance order, "Lost" showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have inked hefty new multi-year overall deals with ABC Television Studio to continue with the series until the end. Duo had made setting a wrap date for the show a condition for staying.

Lindelof and Cuse had wanted "Lost" to end after two more seasons. They're essentially still getting their wish: The 48 episodes they'll produce over the next three years is the same number the show produced during its first two seasons.

ABC execs, however, came up with a way to keep "Lost" on its sked for three more seasons. What's more, the 16-episode arcs will run without repeats (a la "24"), allowing the Alphabet to make the show more of an event.

"In considering the powerful storytelling of 'Lost,' we felt this was the only way to give it a proper creative conclusion," ABC Entertainment prexy Steve McPherson said.

More to the article at the link provided.

[Dregor Thule]

Ahah.. I was watching this weeks Chuck (so-so show, better than average but not great by any means) and he's being tested to try and dig the implanted stuff in his head out, and one of the things the pictures triggers is him saying "Oceanic flight 815 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile".. thought it was amusing.

[Sylvus]

Ahah.. I was watching this weeks Chuck (so-so show, better than average but not great by any means) and he's being tested to try and dig the implanted stuff in his head out, and one of the things the pictures triggers is him saying "Oceanic flight 815 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile".. thought it was amusing.

I noticed that too!

Chuck is alright, I mostly watch it for that blond girl though. Rawr.

[Dregor Thule]

Ahah.. I was watching this weeks Chuck (so-so show, better than average but not great by any means) and he's being tested to try and dig the implanted stuff in his head out, and one of the things the pictures triggers is him saying "Oceanic flight 815 was shot down by a surface-to-air missile".. thought it was amusing.

I noticed that too!

Chuck is alright, I mostly watch it for that blond girl though. Rawr.

Yes. Whoever was responsible for her cover being an employee at Weinerlicious deserves an emmy.

[Kaldaur]

My favorite part about Chuck is that Adam Baldwin of Firefly fame is playing a government operative. Everytime I see him, I expect him to shout out a Jane-ism.