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so they're playing catchup
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Most of the middle east still lives (and behaves!) as they did 400 years ago. What exactly is "catching up" to you? How about crawling out from under fundamentalist religious thought or looking for ways to advanced their society economically (they are on some of the richest land in the world mind you). How about educating the people or encouraging free thought. Well guess what? All "catching up" points to Western ideals and progress and that is exactly what they condemn. THAT is being civilized.

Many of the powers that be in the Middle East, whether it be political or religious have no interest in pulling their people out of the dust and muck. They don't care about educating the masses or providing equal rights to women. The majority of Muslims in the Middle East probably are so bogged down by oppression, lack of education (ignorance), poverty, and religious propaganda that they either lack the means or motivation to envision a better life. BUT that is no excuse. By your logic we should all feel sorry for child molesters because many of them were sexually abused as children. At some point people have to take responsibility for their actions. They don't deserve a pass just because they've had it rough.

Many Muslims are not violent fundamentalists. Why don't they speak out against the statements of their own religious and political leaders? Why don't they condem those Muslims who call for the death of all Westerners? Too busy protesting the Pope I guess.
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You can't liken an entire culture to something like a child molester. A child molester knows what he is doing is wrong and either can't or won't stop himself from being deviant.

Most middle eastern muslims from countries like Iran, Lebanon and Syria are dirt poor and the only thing they have in their lives other than their families is their faith.They are raised from childhood to think that westerners are decadent and godless. They aren't exposed to our cultural ideals, and when they are it is used as a tool to further disparage the west. It also doesn't help that they hate jews and look at the USA as jew lovers and basically blame the existance of modern Israel on the UK and united states.

It is very, very rare that you see wealthy arabs from Saud or UAE or Jordan behaving like what you see on the news.

Although I will concur that islam is a lot more violent than other (especially modern) religions in text, and that violent extremism is more prolific among educated muslims than many other cultures, that is more of a product of the times than anything else in my opinion.

And lots and lots of muslims speak out against it. Some of the more voiciferous muslim clerics in Canada, Europe and the US routinely condemn violent muslim outbreaks. One of the more prominent islamic clerics in Canada has his own show and he always talks about those kinds of issues and usually quotes koran passages that condemn what the extremists are doing. There are always muslim and interfaith peace demonstrations.

The reason that middle eastern clerics don't condemn it is probably for the same reason that muslim women who don't believe in wearing a Hijab wear one anyway when they go out. They don't want to be doused in gasoline and fucking lit on fire.

I full support nations solving their own problems. For awhile in the late 90's and early 2000, Iran was well on their way to losing their theocracy and modernizing their views somewhat. Then somebody's president came out and called them the axis of evil and threatened to invade them while invading the other country he called the axis of evil right beside them.
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I guess if people allow their right to say whatever the fuck they want for fear of violence then that is ultimately a form of terrorism.

Whilst the Pope was a little irresponsible not to realise how fucking retardedly hysterical the Middle Eastern zealots the responsibility in stupidity lies firmly with them.
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Yeah cause George Bush is so amazing that he managed to solo cahnge the entire course of events in Iran based on words.

All the people that wanted democracy quit and fled Iran, leaving only those insane enough to develop weapons grade materials. If Bush was that influential we would be much better off, hell even Republicans are turnig their backs on him.
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Yeah, it was only words, YOU FUCKING RETARD.
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kyoukan wrote:Yeah, it was only words, YOU FUCKING RETARD.

Wow you are such a bimbo, you know, Funk needs a breathing girlfriend...
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kyoukan wrote:You can't liken an entire culture to something like a child molester. A child molester knows what he is doing is wrong and either can't or won't stop himself from being deviant.

Most middle eastern muslims from countries like Iran, Lebanon and Syria are dirt poor and the only thing they have in their lives other than their families is their faith.They are raised from childhood to think that westerners are decadent and godless. They aren't exposed to our cultural ideals, and when they are it is used as a tool to further disparage the west. It also doesn't help that they hate jews and look at the USA as jew lovers and basically blame the existance of modern Israel on the UK and united states.

It is very, very rare that you see wealthy arabs from Saud or UAE or Jordan behaving like what you see on the news.

Although I will concur that islam is a lot more violent than other (especially modern) religions in text, and that violent extremism is more prolific among educated muslims than many other cultures, that is more of a product of the times than anything else in my opinion.

And lots and lots of muslims speak out against it. Some of the more voiciferous muslim clerics in Canada, Europe and the US routinely condemn violent muslim outbreaks. One of the more prominent islamic clerics in Canada has his own show and he always talks about those kinds of issues and usually quotes koran passages that condemn what the extremists are doing. There are always muslim and interfaith peace demonstrations.

The reason that middle eastern clerics don't condemn it is probably for the same reason that muslim women who don't believe in wearing a Hijab wear one anyway when they go out. They don't want to be doused in gasoline and fucking lit on fire.

I full support nations solving their own problems. For awhile in the late 90's and early 2000, Iran was well on their way to losing their theocracy and modernizing their views somewhat. Then somebody's president came out and called them the axis of evil and threatened to invade them while invading the other country he called the axis of evil right beside them.
You're right Kyou, but I have trouble sympathizing with people who incite violence against others just because they are products of a fucked up system, even if that means they can't recognize that its fucked up. My patience is at an end. Of course everything is so fucked up now that I'm fed up with everyone. Bush stirred up so much shit that I'm really expecting WWIII. How many countries hate us enough to be a threat now? Now we've got Hugo Chavez openly siding with Iran, calling Bush "the devil."

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... index.html
  • Current Conflicts:
    Algeria Insurgency 1992 -->
    Angola Cabinda 1975 -->
    Burma Insurgency 1950 -->
    China Senkaku Islands 1968 -->
    China Spratly Islands 1988 -->
    Colombia Insurgencies 1970s-->
    Congo (Zaire) Congo War 1998-->
    Georgia Civil War 1991-->
    India Assam 1985 -->
    India Kashmir 1970s-->
    India Naxalite Uprising 1967 -->
    Indonesia Aceh 1986 -->
    Indonesia Kalimantan 1983 -->
    Indonesia Maluku 1999 -
    Indonesia Papua / West Irian 1963 -->
    Israel Al-Aqsa Intifada 2000 -->
    Israel Lebanon 2006 -->
    Ivory Coast Civil War 2002 -->
    Korea Korean War 1953 -->
    Laos Hmong Insurgency 2000 -->
    Moldova Transdniester 1991-->
    Namibia Caprivi Strip 1966-->
    Nepal Maoists 1996 -->
    Nigeria Civil Disturbances 1997 -
    Pakistan Baluchistan 2004 -
    Peru Shining Path 1970s-->
    Philippines Moro Uprising 1970s-->
    Russia Chechen Uprising 1992 -->
    Somalia Civil War 1991-->
    Spain Basque Uprising 1970s-->
    Sudan Darfur 1983 -->
    Thailand Islamic Rebels 2001 -->
    Turkey Kurdistan 1984 -->
    Uganda Civil Conflict 1980 -->
    United States Afghanistan 1980 -->
    United States Djibouti 2001 -->
    United States Iraq 1990 -->
    United States Philippines 1898 -->
    Uzbekistan Civil Disturbances 2005 -->
    Yemen Sheik al-Houti 2004 -->
What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.

Yea I think comparing a few anti-abortion nuts is comparable to current peace loving Islam and the millions that die from it/year. Its a faith of pig shit and death.


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http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm
http://www.historyguy.com/new_and_recent_conflicts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_toll ... ary_action
http://www.geocities.com/dtmcbride/hist/wars.html
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There's got to be a better example of worldwide Bush hating and worrying about a country's leader siding with Iran than Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez.
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The only source you need to know about Iran!!!

http://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml
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I'm not going to say Bush was the only cause, but when a country is heading for democracy, their moderate leader of the weaker power offers assistance to mend 20+ years of conflict (after the stronger country was partly if not directly responsible for 30 years of opression) and the more powerful bully flips them their bird and calls them evil... well...

So what happend after that? After they "tried" to side with the US and got the finger? Well the radicals took power back because obviously the moderates weren't able to do their job, they weren't able to lead so you get a radical fundamentalist in office...

Again not saying Bush's actions were the only cause, but his and our previous actions in Iran throughout the last century ARE one of the major causes, yes.

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PS - And why did he do that? Could it be because Iran is Shi and the Sunni's have most of the oil? Nah... I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. Hail the Grand Oil Party!
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Sirton wrote:What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.
Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.
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Lalanae wrote:You're right Kyou, but I have trouble sympathizing with people who incite violence against others just because they are products of a fucked up system, even if that means they can't recognize that its fucked up. My patience is at an end. Of course everything is so fucked up now that I'm fed up with everyone.
Oh my patience for fundamentalist islam wore out years ago. That doesn't mean part of my doesn't sympathize with them, though. People are products of their environment.

We wouldn't even have to fucking deal with them if western nations just bought oil off of them and left them the christ alone.
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kyoukan wrote:
Sirton wrote:What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.
Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.

Yeah, because YOU'RE the smart one. Anywho....

Don't stop there young Kyo. Why do those countries have the largest disparity of wealth and the most unstable governments? Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
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Lalanae wrote: Eric and I will be spending the next 2 weeks in Belgium (mostly). I can't wait to get away from this country even if it means coming back. Of course I hope I don't get spit on for being from Texas. I love this country and the life I can live here, but Bush and his cronies have made me ashamed to call myself American.
Maybe you can get one of those Survival Kits that contain a Canadian Flag T-Shirt and say "eh" and "don'tchaknow" after everything.
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you're exactly right midnyte and i really mean that, as in they live their lives by their religion.

because that's how they were brought up, and they are as lala so correctly put, a product of a fucked up system, which is a few hundred years behind the western world. (i'd rather call it a BY-product myself though) our system back then compared to what we have today would be described also as fucked up.

we advanced through this portion of our history, but we did it with no giant looming over us, taking away the natural resources of our land and paying a very very select few who then have it sweet and drive around in a million dollar lexus.

out of this mayhem of a situation, every now and again you'll have some pissed of guy, and once in a while one of those guys will have personal charisma, and one of those guys will become a religious fanatic perhaps even a clerk at some mosque.

and now we have a problem, because the problem spreads rather easily with the barrier to restrain you from doing something that's actually against their holy book (read kyou's part about clerks in canada pointing out segments of the koran that say just that) is beeing torn apart by some charismatic guy who can twist thing around and make you think killing the infidels is ok.
but the end justify the means as they say (at least i'm sure people like bush say that :) )

so, they'll let is slide and jump on the bandwagon and wanna hate the western world that's personalized in USA, unfortunatly for you, luckily for the rest of the western world, because we're just as guilty as you are for keeping the status quo, your just the biggest (and outspoken about your superiority (read as size)) guy around so they blame you.

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sirton about your list and how many of those wars involve muslims.

economies, cultures, few hundred years behind the world around it, religion, fucked up system.

that's the reason, it doesn't justify it, but changing this isn't gonna just take Lala going over there with a loudspeaker yelling "my patience is at an end, start acting civilized"
it's gonna take a long fucking time, and a helluva lot of, well heck .. propaganda to have people slowly get the picture, and raising their children up to believe the same, and stuff like letting women vote and work etc ... is O.K. !!

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and to Lalanae

about those child molesters, yes i feel sorry for them, they have to pay for what they did with jailtime, getting nuts cut off or something to try and prevent them from ruining another life and possibly creating another child molester, but i do feel sorry for them.

here is why, they are human beeings, they have sexual urges just like you and me.

the focus of their sexual urge is pointed at something that is perverted and wrong. they know this is wrong ( at least most of them do, the sociopaths dont), but lets remind ourselves that this is a sexual urge, one of our basic instincts, it's a rather powerful portion of our selves and sometimes makes us do pretty stupid things.

now imagine if you had sexual fantasies regarding, rubber spoons, you'd hide it, because you know the world around you would think you a pervert but mostly they'd be ok with it because noone gets hurt.

change rubber spoon with children, and we're not just perverted but wrong, because now there is a victim and we know there is.

i can't imagine what the "normal" pedophiles have to go through to try and justify it to themselves, that this is ok, they'll still know it's illegal but they themselves have to feel ok with it at least for the duration of the offense, because you have a hard time getting sexual pleasure when you're not ok with what you're doing.

so they say things like "she was flurting with me" or some bullshit to yourself, and then you go about doing your disgusting thing in private where noone can see you and find out about what you're doing because you know it's wrong.

so yes, i feel sorry for them. something in their brain is beyond fucked up and they have to live with it.

try and put yourself in similar shoes, and i'm assuming you're a guy, and you are attracted to women.

now lets say society tells you, that's not the right thing to do, you have to have sex with other men now, you'll be put in jail and be thought a disgusting pervert and a criminal if you have sex with women.

but..... you really like women ..... we'll it's not as simple as one would think to just NOT feel sexually attracted to something any more and just replace it with another thing.

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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: Don't stop there young Kyo. Why do those countries have the largest disparity of wealth and the most unstable governments? Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
how utterly and dog fuckingly appropriate that you have absolutely no fucking grasp of cause and effect.
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kyoukan wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: Don't stop there young Kyo. Why do those countries have the largest disparity of wealth and the most unstable governments? Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
how utterly and dog fuckingly appropriate that you have absolutely no fucking graps of cause and effect.
Now come on, it's quite obvious that the US are Godless and that's what's made them the happy go lucky, friends to the world that they are today!

They didn't elect a religious fundamentalist as President, twice..

They don't say "God" in every patriotic utterance, "In God we Trust", "God bless America", "God I wish these fucking Mexicans would go home", etc.

They don't devote more money and time to debating if you should terminate a pregnancy than what to do with the child when it's born.

It's all so clear really, for those that will just step back and look at the big picture.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Sirton wrote:What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.
Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.
Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
You mean the christian fundies? You know, the guys tahttreat women like shit (dont allow free choices on abortion), dont embrace technology (tries hard to ban stem cell research (just a newer example, look at the church tries to kill just around any scientific benifit since the middle ages if you want the history view), and the advancements in society are great in america? Seem to recall something about more and more kids not getting an education, growing number of people living below the line of what you call liveable, and so on :).
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Hesten wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Sirton wrote:What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.
Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.
Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
You mean the christian fundies? You know, the guys tahttreat women like shit (dont allow free choices on abortion), dont embrace technology (tries hard to ban stem cell research (just a newer example, look at the church tries to kill just around any scientific benifit since the middle ages if you want the history view), and the advancements in society are great in america? Seem to recall something about more and more kids not getting an education, growing number of people living below the line of what you call liveable, and so on :).
You know it's an art to be able to twist words to say anything you want them to. You should get a job at Al Jazeera.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Hesten wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Sirton wrote:What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.
Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.
Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
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You know it's an art to be able to twist words to say anything you want them to. You should get a job at Al Jazeera.

Mid I dont know what your seeing but this is all I see out of Hesten
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: We call them third world for a reason.
Now, I'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer, but since when are the countries in the Middle East "third world"? Or if you're only speaking to the countries in that list, which of those are both third world AND muslim?

I think you do call them third world for a reason, and that's because you're an ignorant fucking halfwit.
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WORLD WAR III IS COMING
President Bush and Rumsfeld are sitting in a bar.
A guy walks in and asks the barman, "Isn't that Bush and Rumsfeld sitting over there?"
The bartender says, "Yep, that's them."
So the guy walks over and says, "Wow, this is a real honor! What are you guys doing in here?"
Bush says, "We're planning WW III."
The guy says, "Really? What's going to happen?"
Bush says, "Well, we're going to kill 140 million Muslims and one blonde with big boobs.
The guy exclaimed, "A blonde with big boobs?
Why kill a blonde with big boobs?"
Bush turns to Rumsfeld and says, "See, I told you, no one gives a shit about the 140 million Muslims
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Hesten wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Sirton wrote:What percentage of these conflicts involve the peace loving Islamic faith. The pope just pointed out the 800pound gorilla sitting in the room.
Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.
Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
You mean the christian fundies? You know, the guys tahttreat women like shit (dont allow free choices on abortion), dont embrace technology (tries hard to ban stem cell research (just a newer example, look at the church tries to kill just around any scientific benifit since the middle ages if you want the history view), and the advancements in society are great in america? Seem to recall something about more and more kids not getting an education, growing number of people living below the line of what you call liveable, and so on :).
You know it's an art to be able to twist words to say anything you want them to. You should get a job at Al Jazeera.
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I think you do call them third world for a reason, and that's because you're an ignorant fucking halfwit.
I love how angry people like you and Kyo get with me. Grrr
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Gee who would have thought that the majority of the conficts in the world would be in regions with the largest disparities of wealth and the most unstable governments?

You fucking clowns really are too stupid to be able to comment on stuff like this.
Could it possibly be because they live their lives by their religion? A religion which treats is women like shit and doesn't embrace technology and and the advancements in society? We call them third world for a reason.
You mean the christian fundies? You know, the guys tahttreat women like shit (dont allow free choices on abortion), dont embrace technology (tries hard to ban stem cell research (just a newer example, look at the church tries to kill just around any scientific benifit since the middle ages if you want the history view), and the advancements in society are great in america? Seem to recall something about more and more kids not getting an education, growing number of people living below the line of what you call liveable, and so on :).
You know it's an art to be able to twist words to say anything you want them to. You should get a job at Al Jazeera.
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Winnow wrote:There's got to be a better example of worldwide Bush hating and worrying about a country's leader siding with Iran than Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez.
Just another country to add to the list, I think that was obvious contextually.
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Lalanae wrote:
Winnow wrote:There's got to be a better example of worldwide Bush hating and worrying about a country's leader siding with Iran than Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez.
Just another country to add to the list, I think that was obvious contextually.
Whenever I see Hugo Chavez yapping... I imagine this tiny little lapdog with a huge head barking with this little whiny 'yip yip yip' sound.
"Or else... what?"

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I can't believe people are still trying to defend this.

The pope fucked up. End of story.

He either

a) Forgot his job description and the fact that as the spiritual leader of the largest sect of christianity and that as such a multitude pay attention listen to everything he says/writes. People then analyze and draw their own interpretations from his words and this may not always be what he intends, so it behooves him to be careful about WTF he is saying... like any other world leader.

b) Was trying to create another shitstorm with Islam.

Benny had a reputation as an intelligent and somewhat controversial theologian, prior to being made Man-With-Red-Shoes. As pope he either needs to control that aspect of his personality and temper it or he is going to continue pissing people off and hurting his sect. I don't think it was appropriate or acceptable for muslims to go on a rampage against christianity (and interestingly enough they didn't target just catholics, thus displaying a Midnyte-esque ignorance of their targets) but this WILL continue to happen if people like Benedict don't use their heads.
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My point is that Hugo Chavez expressing hatred toward the United States isn't something that should surprise anyone. He topped the list of non Middle Eastern U.S. haters long before his recent comments at the U.N.
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Yeah I wonder why
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potato embargo?
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And another american disappears up his own ass.
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watered down whisky?
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No Winnow you only get that in the US.

Maybe Chavez's anger is based on that little coup the US tried (unsuccesfully) to carry out a few years ago.

I'm sure you already knew that though and you're rabidly unfunny posts didn't have anything to do with your total ignorance of anything that doesn't involve hating PS2's.
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Nick wrote:No Winnow you only get that in the US.

Maybe Chavez's anger is based on that little coup the US tried (unsuccesfully) to carry out a few years ago.

I'm sure you already knew that though and you're rabidly unfunny posts didn't have anything to do with your total ignorance of anything that doesn't involve hating PS2's.
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Aruman wrote:Whenever I see Hugo Chavez yapping... I imagine this tiny little lapdog with a huge head barking with this little whiny 'yip yip yip' sound.
that's an interesting perspective on a man who has sole control of the world's third largest oil reserves.

although not a totally unexpected display of almost catastrophic ignorance.
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Realistically ( you can check it out at http://www.globalfirepower.com/index.asp ) Venezuela is the 36th strongest military force on the planet. The US is the first by world ranking and an order of magnitude above the 36th spot. In light of the fact that Iran is 16th, I am much more concerned by them than by Chavez. So yeah, yapping.
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Kylere wrote:Realistically ( you can check it out at http://www.globalfirepower.com/index.asp ) Venezuela is the 36th strongest military force on the planet. The US is the first by world ranking and an order of magnitude above the 36th spot. In light of the fact that Iran is 16th, I am much more concerned by them than by Chavez. So yeah, yapping.
Yes because a nation's global influence is 100% related to the size of it's military. Also, Chavez repeatedly talks about how he is going to launch a full scale invasion of the united states, therefore it is imporant to look at the size of Venezuela's military to establish whether or not he can. YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITHEAD.
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If he invades then we can have sole control of the world's third largest oil reserve :shock:

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Yes because a nation's global influence is 100% related to the size of it's military. Also, Chavez repeatedly talks about how he is going to launch a full scale invasion of the united states, therefore it is imporant to look at the size of Venezuela's military to establish whether or not he can. YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITHEAD.
Oh, geez. You better call the Pentagon and let them know. I doubt they have thought about considering that. You are so smart.
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Your problem is that you think I am arguing this, the fact is that the people making the decisions are looking at that military chart.

But you cannot stop trying to blow me long enough to figure that out. You know, we should have just killed everything in Hate that day, so you would have a reason to be this bitter.
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We should create something similar to godwins law except specific to the vault.

Vault law - A situation whereby someone mentions something from the old days of EQ to stifle any degree of rational or relevant conversation.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
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Yes because a nation's global influence is 100% related to the size of it's military. Also, Chavez repeatedly talks about how he is going to launch a full scale invasion of the united states, therefore it is imporant to look at the size of Venezuela's military to establish whether or not he can. YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITHEAD.
Oh, geez. You better call the Pentagon and let them know. I doubt they have thought about considering that. You are so smart.
The Pentagon, (or more specifically, those within it), don't give a shit about anything but the military aspect. That would be their job, dumbass.

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Zaelath wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
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Yes because a nation's global influence is 100% related to the size of it's military. Also, Chavez repeatedly talks about how he is going to launch a full scale invasion of the united states, therefore it is imporant to look at the size of Venezuela's military to establish whether or not he can. YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITHEAD.
Oh, geez. You better call the Pentagon and let them know. I doubt they have thought about considering that. You are so smart.
The Pentagon, (or more specifically, those within it), don't give a shit about anything but the military aspect. That would be their job, dumbass.

Foreign Policy, if you can call a hit list a policy, would need a call to the Oval Office.
Oh lordy, lordy. Excellent pick up. Thanks Z. I'm sure if the right people in power where ever they made be, were able to tap into the intellect and idealism of those who frequent these boards, the world sure would be a greater place. *sigh* If only.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Zaelath wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
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Yes because a nation's global influence is 100% related to the size of it's military. Also, Chavez repeatedly talks about how he is going to launch a full scale invasion of the united states, therefore it is imporant to look at the size of Venezuela's military to establish whether or not he can. YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITHEAD.
Oh, geez. You better call the Pentagon and let them know. I doubt they have thought about considering that. You are so smart.
The Pentagon, (or more specifically, those within it), don't give a shit about anything but the military aspect. That would be their job, dumbass.

Foreign Policy, if you can call a hit list a policy, would need a call to the Oval Office.
Oh lordy, lordy. Excellent pick up. Thanks Z. I'm sure if the right people in power where ever they made be, were able to tap into the intellect and idealism of those who frequent these boards, the world sure would be a greater place. *sigh* If only.
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Nick wrote:We should create something similar to godwins law except specific to the vault.

Vault law - A situation whereby someone mentions something from the old days of EQ to stifle any degree of rational or relevant conversation.
I think we need a VV glossary!
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Zaelath wrote: Translation: Mea Culpa, but fuck you people and your filthy logic anyway, it's warm and safe here in my own anus.
Nope. The translation is, I don't pretend to fucking know more than those whose jobs it is to know.

Have a nice day.
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