World Cup match discussion thread?

Linaminu · Post by **Linaminu** » July 2, 2006, 6:32 am

well after drowning my sorrows after the England game im gonna post a comment:

Shit.

Ronaldo should be shot, how U can get ur fellow club team mate who U have to spend 10+ months with sent off is beyond belief.
Rooney stamp... well i don't know, the papers in England are blaming him for the result but the media in Britain is bollocks anyway so, i dont think it was a stamp but the ref's decision in the end.
Our penalty taking has been shit for years...
Lampard was the biggest dissappointment in the tournament, for Chelsea for the last two years he has been the best player in the league and he is a good player in the Champions League but on the World Stage he bottled it. His Penalty said it all... dull and lifeless.

my 2 favourite teams went out yesterday... for me.. the world cups over.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 2, 2006, 8:38 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:France clealry outplayed Brazil.

GO ITALIA !!!

fucking french! why the hell after 8 years do they start playing good soccer in the LEAST opportune time! spain could have easily taken brazil and lost to germany in the finals

italy has been slacking big time, germany has played a flawless game. unless there is a major upset, i would say they have an easy world cup win...if FUCKING FRANCE

keeps this streak alive then i wouldnt be at all surprised to see them in the finals either, but it will likely be portugal germany

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 2, 2006, 3:19 pm

haha you are such a sore loser. I laughed when Spain lost!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 2, 2006, 5:16 pm

Linaminu wrote:well after drowning my sorrows after the England game im gonna post a comment:

Shit.

Ronaldo should be shot, how U can get ur fellow club team mate who U have to spend 10+ months with sent off is beyond belief.
Rooney stamp... well i don't know, the papers in England are blaming him for the result but the media in Britain is bollocks anyway so, i dont think it was a stamp but the ref's decision in the end.
Our penalty taking has been shit for years...
Lampard was the biggest dissappointment in the tournament, for Chelsea for the last two years he has been the best player in the league and he is a good player in the Champions League but on the World Stage he bottled it. His Penalty said it all... dull and lifeless.

My thoughts exactly

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » July 3, 2006, 6:54 am

WE were shit throughout the tournament and got what we deserved. I would have dropped Lampard and Beckham after the second match.
I don't think Rooney's stamp was deliberate but the shove was a straight red so we can't complain.
Fuck Eriksson for only taking one fit striker with premiership experience. And double fuck him for that being Crouch. We defended well throughout and passed through midfield well but you'll win fuck all playing 4-6-0.
Christ.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 3, 2006, 9:02 am

You Euros sure are passionate about your futbol.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 3, 2006, 9:03 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You Euros sure are passionate about your futbol.

heh seen Oakland Raiders fans lately?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 3, 2006, 12:06 pm

Kelshara wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You Euros sure are passionate about your futbol.
heh seen Oakland Raiders fans lately?

Raider Nation is hardcore to us Americans, but we pale in comparison to how passionate the Euros are about Soccer. I love it. I think its great.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 3, 2006, 12:22 pm

True. You wont find any better supporters than British soccer supporters. That is, when you ignore the bad apples. And even with those bad apples.. heh that is nothing compared to Galatasaray vs Besiktas. That might as well be war!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 3, 2006, 2:38 pm

I am soooo ready for the Germany v Italy game tomorrow. Not to discount France or Portugal, but this feels more like the final to me given the history of the two teams in the World Cup...yes, I choose to ignore Germany's record against Italy in the World Cup.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 3, 2006, 3:48 pm

I haven't looked forward to a game more than tomorrows. This could be the return to the top that Italy has been striving for, for a long time.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 3, 2006, 5:27 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I haven't looked forward to a game more than tomorrows. This could be the return to the top that Italy has been striving for, for a long time.

heh you speak as if italy has a chance

if italy beats germany, i would go as far as to say that would be the biggest upset in this world cup (not like there has been that many

, no godamned underdog teams even in the round of 8, such a lame, boring world cup)
we need more turkeys and senegals, so lame to see these teams where they always are!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 3, 2006, 5:29 pm

Xzion wrote:we need more turkeys and senegals, so lame to see these teams where they always are!

but it's ooooh so nice seeing Argentina and Brazil out!

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » July 4, 2006, 6:00 am

Italy v France in the final

miir · Post by **miir** » July 4, 2006, 11:18 am

vn_Tanc wrote:Italy v France in the final

Germany over France 2-1

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » July 4, 2006, 11:47 am

Every single one of my predictions and wagers on this tournament has been a laughable failure so far so I'm not going to argue

But Germany lost 4-1 to Italy only a couple of months ago.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 4, 2006, 12:48 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:But Germany lost 4-1 to Italy only a couple of months ago.

in Florence when they may not have "believed" as much as they do now! Ok, maybe not, but I still pick Germany over Italy today.

Italy really hasn't been tested. Sure, the only goal they gave up was one that they scored on themselves, but the attacks of most of their opponents were not as frequent. The Italians have skated through their games so far relying on fouls and penalties while controlling the ball more than their opponents. Their own attacks have been infrequent as well. It's like Germany plays in the attacking half, and Italy stays at midfield. You can only win by doing that if you're able to fend off attacks yourself. This is where I see Germany edging ahead.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » July 4, 2006, 1:36 pm

But that's been the Italian way for decades: Sit back and soak it up, nick a goal on the break then dive like girly men and time waste til the end of the match.

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » July 4, 2006, 3:37 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:Every single one of my predictions and wagers on this tournament has been a laughable failure so far so I'm not going to argue

If you're predicting Italy vs. France, may this one follow your trend!

Xorian · Post by **Xorian** » July 4, 2006, 6:36 pm

For popular joy's sake i was for Germany but...holy mojo, what the problem with all this matches with no goal during normal time. The game itself was BORING and the blue diver won...yeppeeee

Not the best world cup for me i think, hope the 2 last games are going to be incredible.....i hope....

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 4, 2006, 6:38 pm

Xorian wrote:For popular joy's sake i was for Germany but...holy mojo, what the problem with all this matches with no goal during normal time. The game itself was BORING and the blue diver won...yeppeeee

Not the best world cup for me i think, hope the 2 last games are going to be incredible.....i hope....

The "blue diver" did win, but in the end that is not how they beat Germany. The first goal caught too many Germans attacking the ball and opening up too big of a hole in the box, but the second was just plain pretty.

I had hoped to see France v Germany in the final, but now I want to see the two in the consolation game. Italy v Portugal in the final, and Portugal wins with a man or two down, hehe.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 4, 2006, 6:49 pm

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a long wait for that moment. But, it was worth it. Now, how am I going to convince my wife to come hom early from vacation this Sunday so I can watch the finals. Oh boy.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 4, 2006, 7:05 pm

Italy did well to win, it's just a pity their professional pussies team of acting wankers are an embarrasment to their country and all Italians everywhere.

If it turns into an Italy V Portugal final this world cup will have shown nothing more than that cheating ham actors will prevail.

Edit: Tidying

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 4, 2006, 8:26 pm

Nick wrote:Italy did well to win, it's a pity their professional pussies team of acting wanker is an embarrasment to it's country and all Italians everywhere.

If it turns into an Italy V Portugal final this world cup will have shown nothing more than that cheating ham actors will prevail.

yeah, I am hoping it will come to that just to make FIFA do more than say they will fix it.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 4, 2006, 11:25 pm

Maybe you haven't been watching as much as I have, but all the teams do this. Italy may do it 5% more than many others, but they all do this shit all game long. It is awful and I wish for it to change as well. But, it's a huge problem everywhere, not just teams like Italy and Portugal.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 4, 2006, 11:39 pm

Yep, all teams do it. Italy are the worst for it.

Your 5% estimate is ridiculous.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 5, 2006, 12:43 am

Nick wrote:Yep, all teams do it. Italy are the worst for it.

Your 5% estimate is ridiculous.

5.1% ?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 5, 2006, 12:43 am

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 5, 2006, 9:04 am

i agree about italy, but for the most part they played damn well yesterday (for one of the 1st times in this WC), you could tell they were yearning for that final much harder then germany, despite there thespian crew, that 1st goal with like 2 minutes left in overtime was one of the best in this world cup, either way they are my pick for the final. cant stand portugal or france!

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 5, 2006, 9:37 am

Italy deserved to win, but they have had a reputation for years and years to be cheaters and divers. Sorry Midnyte, even though they did not really show this in their last two games it is true and they did it early in the cup as well.

Personally I hope France blows Portugal out of the water today. I can't stand Portugal, they have become worse than Italy by far.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 5, 2006, 10:18 am

Kelshara wrote:Italy deserved to win, but they have had a reputation for years and years to be cheaters and divers. Sorry Midnyte, even though they did not really show this in their last two games it is true and they did it early in the cup as well.
.

No doubt. Those first 3 games of group play were pathetic with all that flopping. The last 3 have been much much better. I noticed all the teams have played more and acted less since group play ended.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 5, 2006, 10:29 am

I think a big part of that is that the ref's, in general, have stopped paying attention to the dives and letting the players just play. The problem is that they are supposed to CALL the dives, not ignore them.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 5, 2006, 1:14 pm

There have been yellow issued for diving. Problem is, it is very subjective. The refereeign though was phenomenal yesterday. They let the players play. FIFA needs to make the other refs watch that game.

2hrs 45mins until France and Portugal !!!!! WOOOOOT!!!!

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » July 5, 2006, 1:39 pm

Portu-GAYs are going down!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 5, 2006, 1:46 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:There have been yellow issued for diving. Problem is, it is very subjective. The refereeign though was phenomenal yesterday. They let the players play. FIFA needs to make the other refs watch that game.

2hrs 45mins until France and Portugal !!!!! WOOOOOT!!!!

There was at least one dive in that game that I started laughing at. I think it was Zambrotta who went down and looked towards the ref. When the ref did not blow the whistle he blatantly went into "dive mode" and grabbed his leg and started rolling. This was on a close up of him after the fall too. It was so damned obvious. The refs did, and should, let play continue, but these players do nothing but hurt the image of the sport when they pull crap like that.

Xorian · Post by **Xorian** » July 5, 2006, 2:01 pm

Boog, i agree Italy deserved to win, but it was in a poor way. The 2 goals were nice, really the shoot of Grosso and the way Del Pierro aimed the top corner...two beuatifull goal...but after more than 100 mins were so few happened !

And beside if Italy plays Portugal it is gonna be a show...Portugese are playing quiete rough and Italians are diving divas.

As someone said, sometimes during the match it was sooo obvious...the player falls, look where the ball is going and what is gonna happen, and decide to act or not to stop the game.

I hate some players like Gattuso, who keep making little fouls even when they help someone to get up. I hate that..really

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 5, 2006, 4:45 pm

1-0!~!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 5, 2006, 5:02 pm

Gogo Zidane!

Xorian · Post by **Xorian** » July 5, 2006, 5:56 pm

Bah this is not a game that will make someone appreciate football

The first 20 minutes were entertraining but for the rest...France stopped playing during 2nd half...bouuuuuh hope the final will make up for all those boring games.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 5, 2006, 5:57 pm

Was a cool game to watch if you wanted to see Portugal lose though

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 5, 2006, 6:24 pm

that was the ref who did the US, Italy game who should have been fired right after that game!

france did clearly play better, but that penalty kick was VERY subjective, i just hate to see any game decided on a penalty

this has by FAR been the worst world cup of my lifetime

Cotto · Post by **Cotto** » July 5, 2006, 6:31 pm

Homer, whcih country do you like least? Italy or France?

France

Hehe, nobody ever says Italy.

Xorian · Post by **Xorian** » July 5, 2006, 6:32 pm

this has by FAR been the worst world cup of my lifetime

Same here, and not because my favorite team lost early, there are no fantastic matches

Animale · Post by **Animale** » July 5, 2006, 6:35 pm

Argentina - Mexico was the match of the tournament. All the rest have been disappointing at best.

Animale

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 5, 2006, 6:49 pm

lol, no?

Some epic matches.

THere was nothing dubious about the penalty either. It was clear as day

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 5, 2006, 6:56 pm

The penalty was fine. Yeah a little was added on to it but it was a clear penalty. And a stupid one.

Was fun to see Ronaldy dive left and right though.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 5, 2006, 9:50 pm

This has been my most enjoyable World Cup. But, I attribute that to the fact, I work from home and have been able to watch every match, many of them in HD, and ITALIA is doing great!

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » July 6, 2006, 6:38 am

Statistically it's been the worst world cup ever, I've read. Lowest number of goals in the knockout stage ever - even beating the woeful Italia90 that led to the back pass being outlawed.
Too many card-happy refs (FIFA's fault, tbh) have led to subdued play and Blatter's aim of "protecting skillful players" has led to the death of the fantastic tackle. When it's too risky to tackle the opposing strikers you just have to choke off their supply by playing insanely boring 4-5-1 formations (the debil).
Time for instant-replay officials. I don't like the 2-refs idea.

Hopefully the final will see an early goal. It's more likely to be another tedius stalemate though :/

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 6, 2006, 8:42 am

Well a low-scoring game doesn't have to be boring though. I thoroughly enjoy the chessmatch that has been going on in many of the games. Some of the most entertaining games I have ever seen have been low scoring.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 6, 2006, 9:03 am

Kelshara wrote:The penalty was fine. Yeah a little was added on to it but it was a clear penalty. And a stupid one.

Was fun to see Ronaldy dive left and right though.

lol, i thought i was a "dive master"
but yeah, portugal are by far even worse then italy in that aspect