Wave of Cancellations Hit World of Warcraft

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » April 27, 2005, 8:09 pm

I haven't visited this forum in awhile. Good info on this forum!

Wave of Cancellations Hit World of Warcraft

Posted by Newsfactory on Wednesday, April 27 @ 15:06:53 CEST
There is no honor in World of Warcraft, or at least that’s what hundreds of users are saying as they bail from the massively multiplayer game. The mini-mass exodus was apparently spurred by the game’s new honor system, which some users apparently abhor. A 35 page thread in the official forums had about 700 posts last I checked. Here’s an example of the ranting going on:

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » April 27, 2005, 10:32 pm

I would of waited untill the battlegrounds came out before doing something rash

Nick · Post by **Nick** » April 28, 2005, 2:39 am

I agree, Battlegrounds should be a good laugh, but I still think the honor system is a steaming pile.

noel · Post by **noel** » April 28, 2005, 11:54 am

That's the problem with real PvP. Everyone thinks they want it, but really not everyone does. What you're seeing now is really no different from what happened in UO back in the day. Currently in WoW, the Achiever/Killers are destroying all the people who don't really know what PvP means. It's pretty damn funny imho.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » April 28, 2005, 11:57 am

Well, I think part of the PvP problem is that people go into the PvP servers thinking that some, if not all, of the fighting will be story driven. Warcraft involved two sides fighting each other for a "reason," but this reason is missing in WoW.

Skogen · Post by **Skogen** » April 28, 2005, 12:01 pm

I think the trouble is that a lot of people have grand expectations from the PvP aspect of this game. Wake up...it ain't gonna happen.

Yaksa · Post by **Yaksa** » April 28, 2005, 12:33 pm

The biggest two complaints I have heard are the omg I cant level because I am getting ganked one. Which has been discussed on these forums before so I wont touch that. The other one is the its not fair b/c my PVP rank isnt 14 yet! I somehow managed to pulll off a rank 7 (Blood Guard) and more than likely will be unable to keep this rank up. While there are some things that I think Blizzard should change to make the ranking a bit more even such as dividing it by class, it seems pretty fair so far. While yes the casual players wont hit 14 ever, they still do have a chance to hit officer if they are smart about it. Since pvp points can be "rested" then if they use their time online to do small group pvp since thats where you get the most points instead of attempting to do some high end instance or whatever then they will get more points.

As far as the cancellations go, I'm kinda happy about them, hopefully the ones quitting will be the teenages who are all angsty about not getting points for ganking the level 30s.

Yaksa "Iced Tea and Bourbon in the morning" LoveCraft

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » April 28, 2005, 4:06 pm

I have never cared for PvP and nothing changes now. If I never get a silly rank and some temporary equipment, oh well. I imagine that things are really sucking on the PvP servers with the gank fests going on due to lack of a dishonor system. I suppose this could be a decent thing but they did it horribly wrong and rushed it. I am also happy over the people cancelling, most are the BNet tards and that is a good thing.

Animale · Post by **Animale** » April 28, 2005, 5:32 pm

Had a few folks quit my PvE oriented guild because they "wanted more PvP." Figured I should at least try it out, went to TM and fought for an hour or so. Don't think I'll be doing that again any time soon... just wasn't very fun for me. 1v1 dueling type stuff I enjoy, but the massive PvP stuff where you are facing off with one guy/couple folks then five more come by and gank you and your bud just isn't very compelling (or vice versa, ganking the other side when outnumbering 'em badly).

Oh well... back to PvE

Animale

Post by **pyrella** » April 28, 2005, 6:00 pm

Accurate subscription and unsubscription numbers are garnered from bnet kiddie posts?

Amazing!

What is this groundbreaking and cutting edge site that has access to subscriber information again?

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » April 28, 2005, 6:41 pm

I love ya Py!

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » April 29, 2005, 3:01 am

Yaksa wrote:The biggest two complaints I have heard are the omg I cant level because I am getting ganked one. Which has been discussed on these forums before so I wont touch that. The other one is the its not fair b/c my PVP rank isnt 14 yet! I somehow managed to pulll off a rank 7 (Blood Guard) and more than likely will be unable to keep this rank up. While there are some things that I think Blizzard should change to make the ranking a bit more even such as dividing it by class, it seems pretty fair so far. While yes the casual players wont hit 14 ever, they still do have a chance to hit officer if they are smart about it. Since pvp points can be "rested" then if they use their time online to do small group pvp since thats where you get the most points instead of attempting to do some high end instance or whatever then they will get more points.

As far as the cancellations go, I'm kinda happy about them, hopefully the ones quitting will be the teenages who are all angsty about not getting points for ganking the level 30s.

Yaksa "Iced Tea and Bourbon in the morning" LoveCraft

How would you be rank 7 when the ranks were apparently capped at 4 (from the foh board thread) for the first week, hmm?.... An explaination occurs to me. It is not a charitable one...

Varia
Varia

Yaksa · Post by **Yaksa** » April 29, 2005, 3:39 am

Eh, I'm an officer, not sure how it happend but I know that there are more on the server who are like this. I am currently ranked 29th. Nothing special consider I put in significant time into this. The biggest problem from this is that the officer "lounge" is not completely finished. I cant access the PVP items yet and most of the NPC dont repsonce to me other than "HI generic text here" response. Tonight I was PVPed by a Knight (rank 7 I think for Alliance) when I was running to BRS to help run some friends through. Not sure why FoH thinks that there is a cap that low. I havent talked to anyone who is a 14 yet so I think there is a soft cap for the commander ranks of it.

Yaksa "bar bar carrot carrot rank "LoveCraft

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » April 29, 2005, 11:37 am

Yaksa wrote:Eh, I'm an officer, not sure how it happend but I know that there are more on the server who are like this. I am currently ranked 29th. Nothing special consider I put in significant time into this. The biggest problem from this is that the officer "lounge" is not completely finished. I cant access the PVP items yet and most of the NPC dont repsonce to me other than "HI generic text here" response. Tonight I was PVPed by a Knight (rank 7 I think for Alliance) when I was running to BRS to help run some friends through. Not sure why FoH thinks that there is a cap that low. I havent talked to anyone who is a 14 yet so I think there is a soft cap for the commander ranks of it.

Yaksa "bar bar carrot carrot rank "LoveCraft

Do you also have the "highest burst DPS server-wide confirmed"???!

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » April 29, 2005, 12:04 pm

something smells like bullshitshit... I ran into the second place overall PVPer on LB Alliance, last night, and they're just a Master Sergeant (rank 4)... can't say I am believing anyone (other than perhaps a Blizzard Employee) would be higher ranked...

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » April 29, 2005, 1:13 pm

You also ran in to my Brain Hacker as it hacked open your brain EXECUTE STYLE!

Also - I call bullshit on Yaksa's current rank. Show us a screen shot of it and I could find it believable. Just to make note, the screenshot would need to be posted before Monday or whenever it is they do the next round of calculations.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » April 29, 2005, 1:21 pm

Or post your sever and in-game name so myself and otehrs can create a mule and check ourselves. Btw, I call bullshit as well. Proove us wrong.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » April 29, 2005, 2:52 pm

I call Bullshit because...well, I am Tauren and that is what we do.

I really don't care what rank anyone is.

noel · Post by **noel** » April 29, 2005, 2:52 pm

Luclin fags inflating their stature with lies... WHO KNEW!?!?

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 29, 2005, 3:34 pm

I actually could care less what rank I am. I PvP for a little while and then go about my normal business.

Personally I cant wait for Battlegrounds though I *know* that is going to be an all new cluster fuck to deal with...

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » April 29, 2005, 3:35 pm

Diae Soulmender wrote:I actually could care less what rank I am. I PvP for a little while and then go about my normal business.

Personally I cant wait for Battlegrounds though I *know* that is going to be an all new cluster fuck to deal with...

How so? From what I gather about it, it will actually clear up a lot of the retarded pvp problems.

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » April 29, 2005, 5:51 pm

Rellix wrote:
Diae Soulmender wrote:I actually could care less what rank I am. I PvP for a little while and then go about my normal business.

Personally I cant wait for Battlegrounds though I *know* that is going to be an all new cluster fuck to deal with...
How so? From what I gather about it, it will actually clear up a lot of the retarded pvp problems.

Consider what Battlegrounds is... it is a zone where through large scale teamwork you will work your way from one side to the other. Many objectives need to be completed to make this happen. You need to be able to get a large number of people on the same page and listening to orders and making it happen.

Given that you 'queue' up to join a Battleground you dont have a choice on WHO enters the Battelground and who dont. It will be almost impossible to get everyone working together to listening to the General and making shit happen. People are generally too independent/self-serving to actually accomplish diddly or squat thus Battelgrounds will generally be a failure in my opinion.

Not until many months pass will people begin working together in some form 'real teamwork'. Basically you need to weed out the morons who wont listen to the leaders. This will take a loooooooooog time.

Just look at it this way: Go to TM and do some PvP. Do you actually see any form of real team play there? Hardly. Now imagine that on a larger scale with real goals to attain.

Battlegrounds will solve nothing.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » May 1, 2005, 6:34 pm

Given that you 'queue' up to join a Battleground

Only if you're Alliance

Ransure · Post by **Ransure** » May 2, 2005, 3:20 am

Kguku wrote:You also ran in to my Brain Hacker as it hacked open your brain EXECUTE STYLE!

Also - I call bullshit on Yaksa's current rank. Show us a screen shot of it and I could find it believable. Just to make note, the screenshot would need to be posted before Monday or whenever it is they do the next round of calculations.

Ok, I read this post drunk... and it scared me... why? you ask.... cause my name is Bryan Hacker..... I totally thought this was a variation of

Code: Select all

[/you]

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 2, 2005, 8:16 am

One day left for Yaksa to post a screenshot.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 2, 2005, 9:10 am

One day left for Yaksa to post a screenshot.

You mean the one to proove he didn't make shit up to flex his e-cock on an Internet msg board?

Yaksa, you're a stupid cunt.

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » May 2, 2005, 10:30 am

Ransure wrote:
Kguku wrote:You also ran in to my Brain Hacker as it hacked open your brain EXECUTE STYLE!

Also - I call bullshit on Yaksa's current rank. Show us a screen shot of it and I could find it believable. Just to make note, the screenshot would need to be posted before Monday or whenever it is they do the next round of calculations.
Ok, I read this post drunk... and it scared me... why? you ask.... cause my name is Bryan Hacker..... I totally thought this was a variation of
Code: Select all
[/you]

nah that was cuz Kguku pwned me (again)

masteen · Post by **masteen** » May 7, 2005, 12:48 am

I'm still waiting for this wave to hit. Fucking Orgrilag piss me of very much!