re: Midnyte and Kierkegaard

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » February 23, 2005, 5:25 pm

Mid,

The Kierkegaard quote in your signature is from "Either/Or." Have you read the book or was the quote something which just struck you?

Just so you know, I'm not trying to belittle you in any way. I'm genuinely curious about what you thought of the book.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 23, 2005, 6:17 pm

That quote grabbed me. But, I have not read the book. If I can ever get caught up at work I might pick it up and then I'll let you know.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 24, 2005, 11:28 am

Yeah you might want to check that one out irony boy.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » February 24, 2005, 11:33 am

Another post tainted by the bile of the Irish.

Soreali · Post by **Soreali** » February 24, 2005, 11:49 am

Bubba Grizz wrote:Another post tainted by the bile of the Irish.

Careful Bubba.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » February 24, 2005, 11:51 am

You do realize that Kierkegaard was an existentialist right? Just like Nietzsche but Religious. If you want to read him I would suggest Concluding Unscientific Postscript as an excellent read. However be warned. While he is very religious in his ideas on Knights of Faith, which I agree very much with him on, he is also... dare I say... pretty libreal in how he interprets the world and how we should draw meaning from it.

I truly find his understanding of Christanity as a model for my own but it's not something you will find in your average Church, it's more what I believe Jesus was trying to get across but hey, he was a liberal too right?

Just giving ya a heads up!

Marb

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 24, 2005, 1:28 pm

That's cool Marb.

Nothing wrong with absorbing art and literature from an array of views, aspects, etc.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » February 24, 2005, 1:35 pm

Soreali wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote:Another post tainted by the bile of the Irish.

Careful Bubba.

Sorry bout that. No offense to the Irish. (I'm Irish btw)

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 24, 2005, 3:54 pm

No

for me TT

You don't get the irony? It's a relatively simple concept.....

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 24, 2005, 4:10 pm

Teenybloke wrote:No for me TT

You don't get the irony? It's a relatively simple concept.....

Explain it then....I'm not a mind reader.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 24, 2005, 4:19 pm

Or a book reader, apparently.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » February 25, 2005, 12:03 pm

Sylvus wrote:Or a book reader, apparently.

pwnd!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 25, 2005, 1:08 pm

Siji wrote:
Sylvus wrote:Or a book reader, apparently.
pwnd!

Yes. I was pwned because I haven't read every book written. Good one.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » February 25, 2005, 1:51 pm

Thanks for the response Mid.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 25, 2005, 3:30 pm

Someone with your 'beliefs' using a line from Kierkegaard is ironic. Read any of his work and you will see why.

As I said, it is a relatively simple concept.

Just sorta funny

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 25, 2005, 4:51 pm

Teenybloke wrote:Someone with your 'beliefs' using a line from Kierkegaard is ironic. Read any of his work and you will see why.

As I said, it is a relatively simple concept.

Just sorta funny

See it's not simple though. Just because he may or may not hold belief very different than mine doesn't mean I cannot appreciate some of the things he has said. Whether or not he may have been a wacked out far left extremist liberal, the quote I have in the sig line, is absolutely beautiful and rings so fucking true.

Try not to some people up so quickly. People as is everything else in life is not just one things, they are many things.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 25, 2005, 5:00 pm

Midnyte said:

Try not to some people up so quickly. People as is everything else in life is not just one things, they are many things.

Only two lines after he said this (an uneducated viewpoint remember in this particular instance)

Whether or not he may have been a wacked out far left extremist liberal

Which he isn't......

It is still ironic, and your point is moot as I never claimed anything contrary to what you just said.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » February 25, 2005, 8:56 pm

Quoting a person when you don't have the first clue of what the person is about is pretty ridiculous.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » February 25, 2005, 11:43 pm

Kelshara wrote:Quoting a person when you don't have the first clue of what the person is about is pretty ridiculous.

Exactly. I'm sure you could find a quote or two from Hitler (since that seems to be the de facto standard of evil on VV) that taken out of context or without knowing who said them, would be decent quotes.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 26, 2005, 12:48 am

Okay. I just read all about him here http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/ .

Forgive me but I guess I just don't pigeonhole people like you. I don't get your amusement.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » February 26, 2005, 11:11 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Okay. I just read all about him here http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/ .

Forgive me but I guess I just don't pigeonhole people like you. I don't get your amusement.

You sure did on the Hunter S Thompson thread.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » February 26, 2005, 11:14 am

Dont forget the Dimebag thread too.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 26, 2005, 12:01 pm

Well Mid sorry but you are one of the worst "pigeonholers" on this board.

If I cared enough I am sure (as the two examples above show) I could find a plethora of instances where you have been both racist and bigoted and small minded and a "pigeonholer".

Now I dig your Tool fanatacism so I try not to be as much of a flaming loon as before with you but you sometimes make it hard.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 26, 2005, 12:39 pm

Truant wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Okay. I just read all about him here http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/ .

Forgive me but I guess I just don't pigeonhole people like you. I don't get your amusement.
You sure did on the Hunter S Thompson thread.

Wrong. I made an observation. I didn't presume to know everything about this man.

Dimebag? I said it was shocking it happened to a man named dimebag. Trouble finds people who open themselves up to trouble happening to them by partaking in troublesome events. With an increased frequency your chances of being ain a troublesome situation increase as well.

You want to refute this and call my names and try and pigeonhole me? Go right ahead. I just point out the simple, logical, real, true to life, common sense, reasonable ways I see things. You don't like it cause the truth hurts. And it pisses you off even more when I tell you how right I am and how shallow you are. As DX used to say...."SUCK IT!"

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » February 26, 2005, 1:26 pm

What y'all need to realize is that even though Midnyte does everything he bitches about other people doing, it is all ok because it is him. It is a typical "Don't do as I do, do as I say" example. Quite amusing to watch actually, and leaves me to wonder just how fucked up his kids will be.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » February 26, 2005, 11:35 pm

Teenybloke wrote:Well Mid sorry but you are one of the worst "pigeonholers" on this board.

If I cared enough I am sure (as the two examples above show) I could find a plethora of instances where you have been both racist and bigoted and small minded and a "pigeonholer".

Now I dig your Tool fanatacism so I try not to be as much of a flaming loon as before with you but you sometimes make it hard.

Why dont you fuck off and light up another Liberal Lucky!!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 27, 2005, 9:37 am

/dance

Truant · Post by **Truant** » February 27, 2005, 2:43 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Truant wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Okay. I just read all about him here http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/ .

Forgive me but I guess I just don't pigeonhole people like you. I don't get your amusement.
You sure did on the Hunter S Thompson thread.
Wrong. I made an observation. I didn't presume to know everything about this man.

Dimebag? I said it was shocking it happened to a man named dimebag. Trouble finds people who open themselves up to trouble happening to them by partaking in troublesome events. With an increased frequency your chances of being ain a troublesome situation increase as well.

You want to refute this and call my names and try and pigeonhole me? Go right ahead. I just point out the simple, logical, real, true to life, common sense, reasonable ways I see things. You don't like it cause the truth hurts. And it pisses you off even more when I tell you how right I am and how shallow you are. As DX used to say...."SUCK IT!"

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Hesten wrote:Hmm, i spot a trend, see the only 2 guys in this thread who dont know who Hunter S. Thompson was
Hell, a load of the people in here know who he was, although were not american, but 2 of the ultra-american protectors in here got no clue, although hes one of the great american icons

That guy will be missed, thats for sure. True, he was a total nutcase, and usually found high enough to almost go in orbit, but he had style.
Because I don't like him in your eyes means I don't know him? LOL

Typical of people like you who completely disregard anyone who disagrees with you. Very sad.

I don't take solace in negative, bitter people like HST. Sorry. His negativity and bitterness drove him to end his own life. Getting any of this?

I'd say those are pretty presumptious statements. I bolded your words for easy reading.

Btw, who is DX and wtf was that?

edit for clarity- hesten's quoted reply has nothing at all to do with anything I'm saying, it just happened to be quoted by you in your reply.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » February 27, 2005, 2:48 pm

DX was part of the lame soap opera called WWF at the time. Brainless entertainment for kids and people like Midnyte.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 28, 2005, 1:09 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Forgive me but I guess I just don't pigeonhole people like you. I don't get your amusement.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Uhh yeah. Sad that someone named "dimebag" is dead. Yeah. Gosh. Feeling awful here. Someone get me some tissues please.

There's your actual quote. It's funny how skewed your view of the world is. You absolutely pigeonhole people and are probably the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. Please note that you're the one who calls people liberals as if it's an insult, says "Fuck Muslims", and shows no pity nor respect for two dead artists that you admittedly know little about other than to judge them from one or two factoids you heard about them.

You are the king of the pigeonhole.

I just point out the simple, logical, real, true to life, common sense, reasonable ways I see things. You don't like it cause the truth hurts. And it pisses you off even more when I tell you how right I am and how shallow you are.

That is downright laughable right there. People don't like it because you say something asinine and then stick to how right you are when you're totally fucking wrong or completely contradicting yourself.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » February 28, 2005, 12:02 pm

before it gets lost in the shuffle, somebody give me Kierkegard Cliffnotes for context in this 'discussion'.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 28, 2005, 1:06 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Forgive me but I guess I just don't pigeonhole people like you. I don't get your amusement.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Uhh yeah. Sad that someone named "dimebag" is dead. Yeah. Gosh. Feeling awful here. Someone get me some tissues please.
There's your actual quote. It's funny how skewed your view of the world is. You absolutely pigeonhole people and are probably the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen. Please note that you're the one who calls people liberals as if it's an insult, says "Fuck Muslims", and shows no pity nor respect for two dead artists that you admittedly know little about other than to judge them from one or two factoids you heard about them.

You are the king of the pigeonhole.

I just point out the simple, logical, real, true to life, common sense, reasonable ways I see things. You don't like it cause the truth hurts. And it pisses you off even more when I tell you how right I am and how shallow you are.
That is downright laughable right there. People don't like it because you say something asinine and then stick to how right you are when you're totally fucking wrong or completely contradicting yourself.

You know what other problem I have?......I don't give a fuck what you think.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 28, 2005, 2:58 pm

You know what other problem I have?......I don't give a fuck what you think.

Translation: You owned me now I have to resort to profane insults.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 28, 2005, 3:04 pm

miir wrote:
You know what other problem I have?......I don't give a fuck what you think.
Translation: You owned me now I have to resort to profane insults.

I could only hope to one day ascend to your level of trollness.

You would have to care one single bit about anyone on these boards to ever feel owned by them. K? Thx. Buh-bye now.

Trias · Post by **Trias** » February 28, 2005, 5:07 pm

have you read the book Teeny?...please explain this irony for those that haven't

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » February 28, 2005, 5:56 pm

It is ironic because someone used a quote from someone that has the opposite general beliefs of the person who quoted it. In some way it makes Midynte a worse person, although I have not been able to figure out exactly how.

In other words, it is someone attacking Midnyte just because they have beliefs opposite of his. You want some irony, then choke to death on it Teeny.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » February 28, 2005, 6:01 pm

is this thread about vikings yet? vikings were pretty cool, and as we all know: the best vikings were from norway.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » February 28, 2005, 6:26 pm

This thread cracks me up!

I think it's great that Mid is going to check out some of his philosophy! It's better to encourage open mindedness than to bash someone because they don't have it... doing that usually results in just the opposite

Not saying I haven't been guilty of doing it, just saying it's usually not the best way to proceed. Hey we are all human right?

Marb

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » February 28, 2005, 6:44 pm

I don't read this thread often because the title isn't catchy. If Sueven edits and reworks the title, this thread should survive for another page.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » February 28, 2005, 6:56 pm

Don't change the title. The unmemorable header was why I was going to bump this a few weeks after it dies and see how many people think it's a new thread.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » February 28, 2005, 7:59 pm

Stragi wrote:is this thread about vikings yet? vikings were pretty cool, and as we all know: the best vikings were from norway.

Hell yeah!

nobody · Post by **nobody** » February 28, 2005, 9:42 pm

And the worst Vikings by far are from Minnesota.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » February 28, 2005, 9:46 pm

Brotha · Post by **Brotha** » February 28, 2005, 11:33 pm

If Jice can quote Richard Nixon in his sig, then Midnyte can quote some lefty nutball. Although I must admit I haven't read any of his books. Shame on me

Nick · Post by **Nick** » March 1, 2005, 1:25 am

Ok guys, my mum went into hospital tonight. I reckon she will be ok, but it's made me think as I browse through this endless barrage of hateful ignorance, what is the fucking point of me coming here?

At one point you could rely on Aranuil, or Voronwe, or Laliana, Or Zamtuk, Zealath, or Raistin, or Sartori, or Xou, or Drolgin, or Sueven (even Winnow!

) (much much

to you chaps/chapettes), or any number of intelligent people to post interesting intelligent concepts here, many of which would be built upon and discussed and even while venomous, a semblance of intelligence definately shown through.

That is seemingly dead in this particular forum for the most part (especially in regard to US foreign policy and that age old chestnut - fact).

I said the same in a much less subtle way a while back.

Maybe I have been much too militant in my views with some of you, then again I am not the one using my military to force those views on others, but I don't expect some here will ever understand that oh so subtle little issue.

You certainly haven't so far.

Your idealism is wrong because it excludes the majority of the species in which you are nothing more than supporting bit part players, in the reality of things.

Anyway, the following no doubt will be met with both apathy and ecstasy from various board members, no doubt the Carts, the Kilmolls, the Arumans etc (oddly enough I easily hold Mid above these reprobates, hmm) will be ejaculating all over their children (poor kids) at the thought of me not posting on the CE forum anymore, but that's what I am essentially saying.

It's not defeatism, I just simply don't have the time or effort now to keep calling people out on the stupidity that many members of this community see.

Balls to this, you are wasting your own time and other peoples if you cannot take part in even vaguely open intellectual discussion.

You are fully aware of who you are and until you sort that out (if ever?), good luck, but I'm out.

Get your digs in now lads, because it's the last chance you'll be getting for the forseeable future.

I'll see you on the other forums.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » March 1, 2005, 8:26 am

See ya later Fuckstain! Hope your mom gets better.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » March 1, 2005, 10:42 am

I hope your Mom pulls through.

I am sorry you won't be posting here any more. You contribute a lot to these boards and their discussions. I have been frustrated and thought I would never come back, but I did. I hope you reconsider as well. If you don't, good luck in life and anything you do.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » March 1, 2005, 10:49 am

what does your mother in the hostpital have to do with this discussion?

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » March 1, 2005, 11:18 am

Brotha wrote:If Jice can quote Richard Nixon in his sig, then Midnyte can quote some lefty nutball. Although I must admit I haven't read any of his books. Shame on me

Yeah, the main deal about Kirkegaard is that he was a lefty nutball.

Idiot.

(*huggles* teeny)

Trias · Post by **Trias** » March 1, 2005, 12:10 pm

i dunno where you think he contributes well to the current events board(not that i do), but in reading, all i see is a bunch of anti-american posts from him that are inflammatory 99% of the time or some very negative responses to other peoples' posts to bait them

i see teeny as a forum troll more than a contributor

...though i hope his mom gets better on the unrelated topic front.