Tsunami Aid

Ebumar · Post by **Ebumar** » December 30, 2004, 3:18 pm

I currently have 12 cents in my bank account - but I'm cashing my paycheck tonight, and atleast 100 of it will go to the red cross.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » December 30, 2004, 4:11 pm

100 cents of it?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 30, 2004, 5:38 pm

Krimson Klaw wrote:Thanks for the link Chmee, I encourage everyone to hit amazon up for at least 5 bucks. It's a combo meal at McDonalds and if everyone did it, they would have more than enough aid.

I think it's nice to see the generosity some people either are truthfully expressing or just professing they have and will do, however, they will have enough money without you. They will recieve so much money from the countries around the world, they will have plenty left over for scandals and scumbags to profit and retire from.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 30, 2004, 6:03 pm

So negative...

Are you saying the American Red Cross is corrupt?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 30, 2004, 6:33 pm

Lynks wrote:So negative...

Are you saying the American Red Cross is corrupt?

Not at all. Im saying the people who collect the monies will have some among them who are corrupt. They will claim they don't have anough money and they will pocket a lot of it. Look at the way many of these people lived. In huts? What's the rebuilding expense involved there? 40 bucks?

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 30, 2004, 7:55 pm

Yes, they all live in huts and are too poor to have cars. Its not just the rebuilding, its giving them food, burying the dead, medical aid, it all adds up.

I'm also guessing you never saw pictures of the over turned cars and destroyed houses. They didn't look like huts.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 30, 2004, 8:10 pm

I saw on CNN, something like 10,000 extra Harley Davidson T-Shirts were heading over to one of the countries hit by the tsunami. It's no wonder when you go to many third world countries you see all sorts of odd clothing with american logos. Our companies send off all the poor selling things to them as donations. I'm sure they're happy to get them though.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » December 30, 2004, 8:26 pm

I think it's nice to see the generosity some people either are truthfully expressing or just professing they have and will do, however, they will have enough money without you. They will recieve so much money from the countries around the world, they will have plenty left over for scandals and scumbags to profit and retire from

I would rather donate (and did) to this cause then to some political party crap that does absolutely nothing but waste it on money attacking the other person. At least the survivors will see some of it and it may help them.

Glad to see the holiday spirit is so strong in you Midnyte.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 30, 2004, 8:49 pm

Tyek wrote:
I think it's nice to see the generosity some people either are truthfully expressing or just professing they have and will do, however, they will have enough money without you. They will recieve so much money from the countries around the world, they will have plenty left over for scandals and scumbags to profit and retire from
I would rather donate (and did) to this cause then to some political party crap that does absolutely nothing but waste it on money attacking the other person. At least the survivors will see some of it and it may help them.

Glad to see the holiday spirit is so strong in you Midnyte.

If "holiday spirit" means "foolishness", then you're right I don't have any.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 30, 2004, 9:00 pm

Once again you show what a sad little man you are. I sure hope you never need the help of others.. but then again as long as we order pizza you should be all set!

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » December 30, 2004, 9:06 pm

It's really amazing to watch the number grow on Amazon's donation page. It jumped by over $20k when I refreshed the page after a couple minutes. Fortunately, the vast majority of people have big hearts, and the outpouring of support (financial and otherwise) is awe inspiring.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 30, 2004, 9:08 pm

Kelshara wrote:Once again you show what a sad little man you are. I sure hope you never need the help of others.. but then again as long as we order pizza you should be all set!

mmmm pizza

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » December 30, 2004, 9:50 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Tyek wrote:
I think it's nice to see the generosity some people either are truthfully expressing or just professing they have and will do, however, they will have enough money without you. They will recieve so much money from the countries around the world, they will have plenty left over for scandals and scumbags to profit and retire from
I would rather donate (and did) to this cause then to some political party crap that does absolutely nothing but waste it on money attacking the other person. At least the survivors will see some of it and it may help them.

Glad to see the holiday spirit is so strong in you Midnyte.
If "holiday spirit" means "foolishness", then you're right I don't have any.

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Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 30, 2004, 9:53 pm

The thought of trying to help others or just being a nice person is foreign to Midnyte.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » December 30, 2004, 10:01 pm

Hehe, Midnyte, you are actually fun sometimes.

First you complain about some countries dont do anything, when thats disproven, you say whee, how good we all are to help, then when people say theyre gonna donate some of their OWN money you call them fools.

Oh well, i guess Midnite gonna be one of the first to complain about the rest of the world not helping when you guys need help when Bush are done running down your economy.

Oh, and about corruptness, how much money was it Haliburton managed to "loose" of those rebuilding funds?

Cotto · Post by **Cotto** » January 2, 2005, 9:45 am

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050102/325/f9imm.html

Sometimes you dont think people will go so low, and yet, youre proved wrong

Midnyte_Ragebringer · January 2, 2005, 10:12 am

Hesten wrote:Hehe, Midnyte, you are actually fun sometimes.

First you complain about some countries dont do anything, when thats disproven, you say whee, how good we all are to help, then when people say theyre gonna donate some of their OWN money you call them fools.

Oh well, i guess Midnite gonna be one of the first to complain about the rest of the world not helping when you guys need help when Bush are done running down your economy.

Oh, and about corruptness, how much money was it Haliburton managed to "loose" of those rebuilding funds?

Asshole! I was talking reality. Yes, I too agree Haliburton or companies like it make extra money during times of need. When there is so much money being thrown at a problem, money gets lost.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » January 2, 2005, 7:21 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Hesten wrote:Oh, and about corruptness, how much money was it Haliburton managed to "loose" of those rebuilding funds?
Yes, I too agree Haliburton or companies like it make extra money during times of need. When there is so much money being thrown at a problem, money gets lost.

The "hippocrisy" in that statement is just awe inspiring.

I guess it's OK for KBR/Halliburton to steal because they're on the "good team"?

Did you ever stop to consider that Halliburton / Cheney possibly might have manufactured the whole Iraq war for no reason except profit?

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 2, 2005, 7:50 pm

Tenuvil wrote:Did you ever stop to consider that Halliburton / Cheney possibly might have manufactured the whole Iraq war for no reason except profit?

Yeah but then I took my lithium and wore my tinfoil hat and got over it.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 2, 2005, 8:51 pm

Tenuvil wrote: Did you ever stop to consider that Halliburton / Cheney possibly might have manufactured the whole Iraq war for no reason except profit?

That has to be the most idiotic/paranoid comment that I have seen on this board so far.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » January 2, 2005, 9:20 pm

While I hardly believe it was "manufactured" or anything like that, I also strongly believe that it impacted Cheney's push for the war.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » January 2, 2005, 9:54 pm

I don't think it was manufactured either. I think you could argue that Midnyte' statement that Haliburton "loses some of the money" that was thrown at them, but that the Red Cross and other Charities are stealing the money being earmarked for aid is just as stupid, and possibly more then the manufactured commment was.

he implies that Haliburton accidently lost some money, yet a charity purposely steals it, whatever. Sad to think I actually belong to the same political party as him. I guess I should be happy that is the only thing we seem to share.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » January 3, 2005, 4:23 am

Tyek wrote:I don't think it was manufactured either. I think you could argue that Midnyte' statement that Haliburton "loses some of the money" that was thrown at them, but that the Red Cross and other Charities are stealing the money being earmarked for aid is just as stupid, and possibly more then the manufactured commment was.

he implies that Haliburton accidently lost some money, yet a charity purposely steals it, whatever. Sad to think I actually belong to the same political party as him. I guess I should be happy that is the only thing we seem to share.

I would rather give directly to a specific charity.

That pooled money makes it too easy/tempting for the system to be abused. It may not have happened, but the possibility is there for it to happen.