Good news

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » December 19, 2004, 5:03 pm

It's refreshing to bump into an article showing regular people acting in a selfless manner.

http://www.theeagle.com/region/localreg ... 04fire.php

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 19, 2004, 8:59 pm

In other news, Charlie Jones will be sleeping in his box again this Christmas, and no one gives a shit.

I hate Sunday morning christians, and I don't particularly find this kind of story heartwarming.

It's a bit like the "family of five" that have a nice home, a decent income, and no fire insurance. Then the community kicks in and helps out because two, that's two, fully grown adults, were too negligent to take simple precautions to secure their children. Why would you bother getting insurance? And why would the community let a couple with no kids sleep in their car?

People are sheep.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 19, 2004, 10:00 pm

CAN YOU DEAL WITH THAT!!!
-Ben Stiller, Meet the Parents

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 19, 2004, 10:10 pm

Yeah, TIME magazine knows how to pic them!

Hitler:

Stalin:

Khomeini:

And now Bush to round it out! Woowoo.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 20, 2004, 12:04 am

They do screw up sometimes!

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » December 20, 2004, 1:13 am

What makes you say that? I see a jackass on every one of those covers.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » December 20, 2004, 3:07 am

Heh, see also Time's "Man of the Year" 1938 Adolf Hitler...

"Man of the Year" is not about bein' a good guy it is about degree of influence in world events either positive or negative...

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » December 20, 2004, 1:25 pm

Winnow wrote:

CAN YOU DEAL WITH THAT!!!
-Ben Stiller, Meet the Parents

Wow, Tom Brokaw is man of he year. Who would have guessed?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 20, 2004, 2:37 pm

Chidoro wrote: Wow, Tom Brokaw is man of he year. Who would have guessed?

It's borderline:

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 20, 2004, 2:45 pm

What, me worry?

The resemblance is unbelievable!

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » December 20, 2004, 2:45 pm

Zaelath wrote:In other news, Charlie Jones will be sleeping in his box again this Christmas, and no one gives a shit.

I hate Sunday morning christians, and I don't particularly find this kind of story heartwarming.

It's a bit like the "family of five" that have a nice home, a decent income, and no fire insurance. Then the community kicks in and helps out because two, that's two, fully grown adults, were too negligent to take simple precautions to secure their children. Why would you bother getting insurance? And why would the community let a couple with no kids sleep in their car?

People are sheep.

You are the most cynical waste of breath I have had the displeasure of reading. What is this about Sunday morning Christians? Rather a world full of people who step up to the plate periodically than the General state of the world where most people step up to get a better view of the tragedy.

Shaddap you asshat.

Times "Person of the Year" is not a fucking award, it is about the person who created, caused, the most news or was the most influential.

All of those covers were good picks.

Historically, Some were assholes others were great humanitarians

Deward · Post by **Deward** » December 20, 2004, 6:39 pm

The tragedy in that article is that they are having a child when they obviously can't support it. Child bearing should be a privilege, not a right.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 20, 2004, 8:29 pm

I have to agree with that.. wtf is up with all the people who have kids without the means to support/raise them? Stupid idiots!

Oh and gogo burning candles while sleeping..

I am too cynical at times.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 20, 2004, 9:53 pm

Atokal wrote:
Zaelath wrote:In other news, Charlie Jones will be sleeping in his box again this Christmas, and no one gives a shit.

I hate Sunday morning christians, and I don't particularly find this kind of story heartwarming.

It's a bit like the "family of five" that have a nice home, a decent income, and no fire insurance. Then the community kicks in and helps out because two, that's two, fully grown adults, were too negligent to take simple precautions to secure their children. Why would you bother getting insurance? And why would the community let a couple with no kids sleep in their car?

People are sheep.
You are the most cynical waste of breath I have had the displeasure of reading. What is this about Sunday morning Christians? Rather a world full of people who step up to the plate periodically than the General state of the world where most people step up to get a better view of the tragedy.

Shaddap you asshat.

Strike a nerve? If someone is negligent, doesn't keep their car (brakes) in good repair, and rear ends you at a stop light, do you get out and offer to pay for their damage?

If occasional bursts of charity makes you feel good, ok. But as long as you realise you're doing it for yourself and not from some greater altruistic nature.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » December 21, 2004, 5:47 am

Kelshara wrote:I have to agree with that.. wtf is up with all the people who have kids without the means to support/raise them? Stupid idiots!

Oh and gogo burning candles while sleeping..

I am too cynical at times.

Well, could be because they dont get the proper sex education to know what theyre doing, and are agains abortions

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » December 21, 2004, 5:00 pm

Zaelath wrote:
Atokal wrote:
Zaelath wrote:In other news, Charlie Jones will be sleeping in his box again this Christmas, and no one gives a shit.

I hate Sunday morning christians, and I don't particularly find this kind of story heartwarming.

It's a bit like the "family of five" that have a nice home, a decent income, and no fire insurance. Then the community kicks in and helps out because two, that's two, fully grown adults, were too negligent to take simple precautions to secure their children. Why would you bother getting insurance? And why would the community let a couple with no kids sleep in their car?

People are sheep.
You are the most cynical waste of breath I have had the displeasure of reading. What is this about Sunday morning Christians? Rather a world full of people who step up to the plate periodically than the General state of the world where most people step up to get a better view of the tragedy.

Shaddap you asshat.
Strike a nerve? If someone is negligent, doesn't keep their car (brakes) in good repair, and rear ends you at a stop light, do you get out and offer to pay for their damage?

If occasional bursts of charity makes you feel good, ok. But as long as you realise you're doing it for yourself and not from some greater altruistic nature.

Yeah you did strike a nerve. It seems to me after reading the article that they were not negligent, they were down on their luck. Not knowing all the details of why he is unemployed or why they are behind on utility payments I would say it was a stroke of bad luck to knock over that candle.

Further, to not have any empathy towards your fellow man when circumstances like this arise is inconceivable. Then to slam those who stepped up to help and call them Sunday morning Christians is simply retarded.

Please point out to me anything in the article that shows these were two stupid people. Poor = Stupid? Trying to keep warm = Stupid?
Knocking the Candle over by mistake = Stupid?

Finally what is wrong with doing a charitable act and feeling good about it?
Perhaps in your world feeling good about helping your fellow man is a motive to be frowned upon. In my world I could care less about that motive because it should in fact make you feel good.

Editted to respond to Kelshara:

Hey man you do realize that for centuries people burned candles while they slept right?

These people had no electricity and contrary to what you probably think flashlights do not cast off heat.

Merry Christmas

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » December 21, 2004, 5:14 pm

Hey man you do realize that for centuries people burned candles while they slept right?

These people had no electricity and contrary to what you probably think flashlights do not cast off heat.

Yeah cause we all know that candles are meant for heating...

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 21, 2004, 7:27 pm

Atokal wrote: Yeah you did strike a nerve. It seems to me after reading the article that they were not negligent, they were down on their luck. Not knowing all the details of why he is unemployed or why they are behind on utility payments I would say it was a stroke of bad luck to knock over that candle.

Exactly how much heat do you think a candle puts out?

Further, to not have any empathy towards your fellow man when circumstances like this arise is inconceivable. Then to slam those who stepped up to help and call them Sunday morning Christians is simply retarded.

Hey, I have sympathy for them (I don't think I can empathise without burning down my house) but I don't see what makes them so special compared to all the other homeless in the region.

Please point out to me anything in the article that shows these were two stupid people. Poor = Stupid? Trying to keep warm = Stupid?
Knocking the Candle over by mistake = Stupid?

I don't recall calling them stupid, and in fact I didn't even call them negligent it reminded me of a more common situation where there is some gross negligence involved.

Finally what is wrong with doing a charitable act and feeling good about it?
Perhaps in your world feeling good about helping your fellow man is a motive to be frowned upon. In my world I could care less about that motive because it should in fact make you feel good.

You really are an illiterate fucking twat aren't you? Where did I say it was "wrong", I just suggested that you understand your own motivation. There's a big difference between someone truely altruistic (say Mother Theresa) and your self-righteous ass.

Editted to respond to Kelshara:

Hey man you do realize that for centuries people burned candles while they slept right?

Yeah, umm when?

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 21, 2004, 9:07 pm

Actually candles were not used often during sleep. Most of the time they had a fireplace and covered the embers so it could be brought back to life in the morning. Oil lamps, candles etc were usually blown out when people went to bed.

Not to mention: A candle gives off very little heat. They would have to spend an extraordinary amount of money on candles for it to have any effect. That money could have been spent on buying a blanket instead which would have been a hell of a lot more effective.

No to mention: Yes only an idiot would leave a candle burning close to where they sleep. Same idiots most likely smoked in bed as well.

We have a cabin back home which is old-style. That means, it requires wood for heating etc. If it is cold there is absolutely nothing a candle can do to keep ANY heat there. It simply doesn't work.

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » December 21, 2004, 9:09 pm

Hesten wrote:
Kelshara wrote:I have to agree with that.. wtf is up with all the people who have kids without the means to support/raise them? Stupid idiots!

Oh and gogo burning candles while sleeping..

I am too cynical at times.

Well, could be because they dont get the proper sex education to know what theyre doing, and are agains abortions

I'm sorry, but that's just fucking stupid. Pretty sure people know how the process works these days. Actually even dogs know how the process works. Let's give the populace some credit eh?