interesting eq sound sorta cheat thingy

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » November 1, 2002, 12:14 pm

Just noticed. You can acess the mp3 files for the PoP music (check out time, exp) using yer default MP3 player. This leads me to question if it would be, at all possible, to take a non eq mp3 (for instance, Kravits doing American Woman) to say.. potranqulity.mp3 and place it in the eq folder. Or Paint it Black for the Plane of Disease.

Anyone know if this would work? Going to give it a try in a few, methinks.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » November 1, 2002, 12:27 pm

Should work just fine. You would have to match the old file name, but that's no big deal.

Seems like I heard a guildie the other night saying he had replaced one of the combat tracks with a Rob Zombie track.

Post by **Xouqoa** » November 1, 2002, 12:29 pm

The patcher will notice the file difference I think, and try to overwrite it. So you'd have to bypass that.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 1, 2002, 12:33 pm

Interesting prospect though. Let us know how it goes.

My melee music will be changed to "enemy" by disturbed.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 1, 2002, 12:35 pm

well if you do EQW or 2 box you can modify it after the patch. just make your c:\program files\everquest folder shared if you 2 box, and navigate in, paste in your new MP3 and you are set (after the file scan is complete).

but i dont remember the programs name, but there has been a program that lets you run winamp from within EQ since around the time kunark went live.

Millie · Post by **Millie** » November 1, 2002, 12:42 pm

There used to be a program that you could use to let WinAmp tracks play during an EQ session (this was before EQW came out). It's long since been rendered useless by Verant's tinkering, though.

And now I hear that Sony has taken steps against EQW in its latest EQ code? Heh. If true, I'm not surprised. EQW never did anything but make people's lives easier -- but SoE's eternal fear of third-party software will always trump concerns of convenience, I guess.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 1, 2002, 12:49 pm

Millie wrote:but SoE's eternal fear of third-party software will always trump concerns of convenience, I guess.

maybe they should work on some encryption then =)

cause when the next generation of their games come out, we'll be able to probably sniff the packets on our cellphones which are running linux

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » November 1, 2002, 12:54 pm

edit music.bat
del e:\EQ\podisease.mp3 /y
copy d:\mp3\acdc\back_in_black.mp3 e:\EQ\podisease.mp3
del e:\EQ\povalor.mp3 /y
copy d:\mp3\tvtunes\greatistamericanhero.mp3 e:\EQ\povalor.mp3
del e:\EQ\pohonor.mp3 /y
copy d:\mp3\PF\SOYCD\Shine_on1.mp3 e:\EQ\pohonor.mp3

Create link on desktop to music.bat, wait for patch to finish, hit shortcut, click play.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 1, 2002, 1:03 pm

Fuck all that. I'll just turn my EQ music off and play my stereo like I always do.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » November 1, 2002, 1:16 pm

Millie,

Unless I missed soemthing, Sony took action against SEQ by making the client transmit license information in an encrypted packet. You can no longer sniff packets from a seperate machine, you have to run the sniffer on the same machine as EQ and dig the information out of memory before it is encrypted.

Don't know of anything that was done against EQW.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » November 1, 2002, 2:17 pm

pretty much works. Had to run the patcher, delete the file in question, rename the music file..

Will do what you suggested Ky, thank you.

Millie · Post by **Millie** » November 1, 2002, 7:02 pm

Fallanthas wrote:Millie,

Unless I missed soemthing, Sony took action against SEQ by making the client transmit license information in an encrypted packet. You can no longer sniff packets from a seperate machine, you have to run the sniffer on the same machine as EQ and dig the information out of memory before it is encrypted.

Don't know of anything that was done against EQW.

Sony has always encrypted its packets; however, it recently changed the encryption to a 64-bit code (or so the computer-saavy people I've talked to explain things). This wasn't an action specifically against EQW or SEQ -- it was taken against third-party software in general (a category which includes both afforementioned programs). This is why many people are having a hard time running SEQ and EQW these days.

Encryption can always be beaten, as far as I know. So it's only a matter of time before someone figures out how to get around the new coding.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 1, 2002, 7:23 pm

128bit encryption hasnt been beaten yet, so not sure why they didnt go that route.

64bit is kind of close to encryption that has been cracked, so why do it that way?

i'm not a security guy though, so i could be missing something obvious.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » November 1, 2002, 7:25 pm

Hrmm, I've not heard of any problems with EQW.

EQW makes changes to the DX code on the client machine and forces EQ back into a window. To the best of my knowledge it doesn't even touch the stream between client and host, so I doubt encryption would mess it up.

I didn't write the thing, however.

cid · Post by **cid** » November 1, 2002, 7:37 pm

Voronwë wrote:128bit encryption hasnt been beaten yet, so not sure why they didnt go that route.

The day the HU card dies(64bit), will be the day that 128 is hacked. I have no proff, but I am sure someone has hacked 128.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 1, 2002, 7:50 pm

actually 64bit encryption has already been beaten

but yeah, it isnt easy to crack, so i dont think even if every EQ client was simultaneously trying to decrypt whatever algorithm they use, we would be in any danger of getting it anytime soon.

cid · Post by **cid** » November 1, 2002, 7:53 pm

I was agreeing with you on the 64bit

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 1, 2002, 7:55 pm

i know, i was actually trying to correct myself , not you by offering further clarification =)

AlanhaStarbreeze · Post by **AlanhaStarbreeze** » November 1, 2002, 8:20 pm

the eq data streeam hasnt always been encrypted. it once upon a great time ago was plaintext. Which gave a huge advantage to breaking the code when the encryption was introduced since you already knew what the data stream looked like before hand. Which gave the Man in the Middle attack preference in breaking the code.

If you have any old showeq.tar(s) from when the program was first released you can see in the code where there was no decryption done. but thats my 2 coppers.

Dups. · Post by **Dups.** » November 1, 2002, 8:25 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Fuck all that. I'll just turn my EQ music off and play my stereo like I always do.

Ahhh , simplicity

Fash · Post by **Fash** » November 1, 2002, 9:53 pm

Ajran · Post by **Ajran** » November 2, 2002, 9:48 am

they can't use 128 bit encryption because they ship the software overseas..

-Ajran

Ebumar · Post by **Ebumar** » November 2, 2002, 3:05 pm

Change the files with the patcher open. Then it wont detect them. You've been able to do this for years. You know aviaks in south karana? I changed it to a different song every day because damnit, I was tired of that music.