Charlie & the Chocolate factory

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 9, 2004, 9:32 am

What happened to Willy? Ohh well.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » November 9, 2004, 10:56 am

Willy Wonka FUCKED ME UP as a kid, that thing gave me horrid nightmares, can't watch it to this day.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » November 9, 2004, 11:31 am

Akaran_D wrote:Willy Wonka FUCKED ME UP as a kid, that thing gave me horrid nightmares, can't watch it to this day.

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was worse IMHO.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 9, 2004, 12:05 pm

I think Johnny Depp is Tim Burton's muse.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 9, 2004, 12:14 pm

Depp and Burton were made for each other. I don't care that prince humperdink did jcks voice in nightmare, he looked and acted like Depp

Deward · Post by **Deward** » November 9, 2004, 12:29 pm

I think Depp is shitty selection for this role. He is definitely no Gene Hackman. Jack Black would be a much better cast for the role.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 9, 2004, 12:39 pm

Deward wrote:I think Depp is shitty selection for this role. He is definitely no Gene Hackman. Jack Black would be a much better cast for the role.

Gene Hackman is relevant how? Marla Singer is Charlie's mom!

Sirensa · Post by **Sirensa** » November 9, 2004, 1:20 pm

Akaran_D wrote:Willy Wonka FUCKED ME UP as a kid, that thing gave me horrid nightmares, can't watch it to this day.

No shit. Fuck this movie.

Nneena · Post by **Nneena** » November 9, 2004, 1:29 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Deward wrote:I think Depp is shitty selection for this role. He is definitely no Gene Hackman. Jack Black would be a much better cast for the role.
Gene Hackman is relevant how? Marla Singer is Charlie's mom!

Maybe he was thinking of Gene Wilder.

Waran · Post by **Waran** » November 9, 2004, 1:30 pm

The nightmares would be more horrid if Marilyn Manson was in this as Wonka. Then I might watch it, that and if Tim Burton wasn't directing

Still though, fuck Depp.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 9, 2004, 1:37 pm

Anything that has to do with Willie or Charlie and a Chocolate Factory should be rated NC-17 at the minimum.

I can see Depp doing an OK job in this role. He's got the weird factor down.

We should have a poll of what fucked you up the most as a kid:

-The fat kid getting sucked up the chocolate tube.
-The girl that ballooned into a blueberry.
-The rich girl sent down the waste disposal to the incinerator.
-Charlie almost getting chopped up by the blades at the top of the floating soda gas room.
-Those freaky Oompa Loompas

Dexail · Post by **Dexail** » November 9, 2004, 1:55 pm

don't forget the carnival boat ride from hell he took the kids on.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » November 9, 2004, 2:59 pm

NneenaFS wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Deward wrote:I think Depp is shitty selection for this role. He is definitely no Gene Hackman. Jack Black would be a much better cast for the role.
Gene Hackman is relevant how? Marla Singer is Charlie's mom!
Maybe he was thinking of Gene Wilder.

Hehe, Gene Wilder is no Gene Hackman either.

Neither are all but 1 actor

I must admit i never actually SAW the original movie, only read the book, but i think Depp will do it quite well.

Look at his roles in the past, unlike some people (Jack Black for example), Depp arent typecasted, almost all his roles are WAY apart from each other (Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Pirates of the Carribian, Secret Window, Fear an Loathing in Las Vegas). That in my eyes show enormous talent and potential, and i think hell be perfect for the role.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » November 9, 2004, 3:34 pm

He is definitely no Gene Hackman.

Do you mean Gene Wilder?

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » November 9, 2004, 4:11 pm

The original owned. Why bother with a remake?
It didn't scare me though cos (a) I'd read the book and (b) we had Dr Who to watch on TV. NOTHING is so terrifying.

Deward · Post by **Deward** » November 9, 2004, 4:22 pm

Yea yea yea Wilder Hackman blah blah blah...fuck off now hehe I knew it was a Gene. I still think Depp is a shitty choice.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » November 9, 2004, 5:56 pm

Personally, I loved the movie as a kid, but I kind of always liked the "darker" movies. I'm looking forward to this; I think Depp will do a fantastic job as usual.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » November 9, 2004, 7:49 pm

Winnow wrote:Anything that has to do with Willie or Charlie and a Chocolate Factory should be rated NC-17 at the minimum.

I can see Depp doing an OK job in this role. He's got the weird factor down.

We should have a poll of what fucked you up the most as a kid:

-The fat kid getting sucked up the chocolate tube.
-The girl that ballooned into a blueberry.
-The rich girl sent down the waste disposal to the incinerator.
-Charlie almost getting chopped up by the blades at the top of the floating soda gas room.
-Those freaky Oompa Loompas

Actually I enjoyed the movie greatly - nice family flick!

The most *painful* for me may have been Charlie and the blades, but I still loved it regardless.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 9, 2004, 8:33 pm

Deward wrote:Yea yea yea Wilder Hackman blah blah blah...fuck off now hehe I knew it was a Gene. I still think Depp is a shitty choice.

Well actually my point was, Gene Wilder was a great comedian, I mean top notch amazing comedian, but Charlie and the Chocolate Factry is not a comedy, and Depp is a superior actor to Wilder

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 9, 2004, 9:00 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Deward wrote:Yea yea yea Wilder Hackman blah blah blah...fuck off now hehe I knew it was a Gene. I still think Depp is a shitty choice.
Well actually my point was, Gene Wilder was a great comedian, I mean top notch amazing comedian, but Charlie and the Chocolate Factry is not a comedy, and Depp is a superior actor to Wilder

Gene Hackman played a decent Lex Luther in the Superman movie.

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » November 9, 2004, 11:00 pm

I see you like a clockwork orange Drinsic

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » November 9, 2004, 11:14 pm

I like a lot of Kubrick's work~

Sheryl · Post by **Sheryl** » November 10, 2004, 12:28 am

i loved the original movie, which is odd because i don't do well with actual horror films, and this movie apparently scared the shit out of a lot of kids.

i'm really excited to see depp play wonka. he's probably one of only a handful of actors dynamic enough to pull this off. from what i've read, some of the other actors who were considered: Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Christopher Walken, Nicolas Cage and Michael Keaton. i just hope they didn't cast a bunch of retards to play the kids.

it looks like the boy they cast to play charlie bucket is also working with depp in "finding neverland." hopefully he'll be comfortable with depp and do a good job.

from imdb:

Johnny Depp was so impressed with Freddie Highmore's performance in 'Finding Neverland (2004)' that he convinced Tim Burton to cast him as Charlie Bucket.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » November 10, 2004, 12:53 am

I just pray there is no singing.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 10, 2004, 12:54 am

He also looked at Marilyn Manson for the part

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » November 10, 2004, 1:15 am

Sheryl wrote:i'm really excited to see depp play wonka. he's probably one of only a handful of actors dynamic enough to pull this off. from what i've read, some of the other actors who were considered: Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Christopher Walken, Nicolas Cage and Michael Keaton.

I could see Christopher Walken or maybe Robin Williams playing Wonka really well, but Cage or especially Keaton would've been just weird, in a bad way. Glad he chose Depp.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » November 10, 2004, 7:08 am

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:
Sheryl wrote:i'm really excited to see depp play wonka. he's probably one of only a handful of actors dynamic enough to pull this off. from what i've read, some of the other actors who were considered: Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Christopher Walken, Nicolas Cage and Michael Keaton.
I could see Christopher Walken or maybe Robin Williams playing Wonka really well, but Cage or especially Keaton would've been just weird, in a bad way. Glad he chose Depp.

Hehe, yeah, Cage and Keaton would suck at that role. Not sure Walken would be good either.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » November 10, 2004, 11:46 am

or maybe Robin Williams playing Wonka really well

No. Just.....no.

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 10, 2004, 12:24 pm

Sly Stallone as WOnka!

Ey...Adriaaan!

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 10, 2004, 12:27 pm

Fuck that, Carrot Top as Willy Wonka would own.

Runs to his trunk and pulls out an OompaLoopa attached to a Hoola hoop.
"OMG, its a HOOLAOOMPA....HOOLAOOP...ahh forget it"

not really

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » November 10, 2004, 1:22 pm

Hesten wrote:Hehe, yeah, Cage and Keaton would suck at that role. Not sure Walken would be good either.

Keaton was a damn good comedic actor early on in his career however, I don't think this might be a great role for him.

Willie Wonka <> to Charlie. I would be dissappointed if Charlie tried to act exactly like Willie. Depp looks to have the original Charlie's chin in that pic.

i loved the original movie, which is odd because i don't do well with actual horror films, and this movie apparently scared the shit out of a lot of kids.

I agree 100%. Never(and still to this day) liked horror films. I always loved Willie Wonka, even liked the music as a kid. I never really thought of the "scared" factor myself for some reason.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 10, 2004, 1:54 pm

idbm says Depp is playing as Willy Wonka not Charlie.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » November 10, 2004, 2:02 pm

Possible Outdoor Pictures of the set, nothing spectacular

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » November 10, 2004, 2:08 pm

Lynks wrote:idbm says Depp is playing as Willy Wonka not Charlie.

I don't see anything wrong with that.. this is a remake not a sequel, no?

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 10, 2004, 2:15 pm

Lynks wrote:What happened to Willy? Ohh well.

the name of the book is "Charlie and the..."

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 10, 2004, 2:22 pm

Voronwë wrote:
Lynks wrote:What happened to Willy? Ohh well.
the name of the book is "Charlie and the..."

Ohh I know, but Depp is not Wilder is what I was saying.

Rellix wrote:
Lynks wrote:idbm says Depp is playing as Willy Wonka not Charlie.
I don't see anything wrong with that.. this is a remake not a sequal, no?

My response was to Chid. I was assuming he thought Depp was playing Charlie. I could be wrong though.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 10, 2004, 2:23 pm

i wouldnt be surprised if he was better honestly.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » November 10, 2004, 5:07 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:
or maybe Robin Williams playing Wonka really well
No. Just.....no.

Eh, Robin Williams can portray strange and creepy characters pretty well. When I think of Robin Williams in a movie, I try to think of roles like Seymour in One Hour Photo, not shit like Mrs. Doubtfire~

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » November 10, 2004, 5:14 pm

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:
Fairweather Pure wrote:
or maybe Robin Williams playing Wonka really well
No. Just.....no.
Eh, Robin Williams can portray strange and creepy characters pretty well. When I think of Robin Williams in a movie, I try to think of roles like Seymour in One Hour Photo, not shit like Mrs. Doubtfire~

No - Mrs. Doubtfire is Robin Williams. Once he did that movie his entire career was classified under exclusively slapstick comedy. Similarly, after Al Gore lost in 2000, he did SNL, which scarred his career (mainly with the hot tub scene with an SNL artist playing Joe Lieberman) in the sense that he would never do politics again.

On that note, Al Gore would be a great Wonka.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » November 10, 2004, 5:19 pm

I must admit, I had a hard time taking the killer in Insomnia seriously, but he made a great performance as Sey in One Hour Photo. Maybe it's because he looked a lot different than in most of his appearances.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » November 10, 2004, 5:30 pm

http://www.deppimpact.com/charlie/charlie4.jpg

http://www.deppimpact.com/charlie/charlie5.jpg

Depp as Wonka

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 10, 2004, 5:42 pm

That's a pretty whack Wonka!

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » November 11, 2004, 1:30 pm

Lynks wrote:My response was to Chid. I was assuming he thought Depp was playing Charlie. I could be wrong though.

You would be correct. My assumption was that Depp was playing Charlie.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » November 11, 2004, 3:38 pm

Keaton's best movie was invariably Johnny Dangerously. Depp could not possibly top Pirates of the Carribean with this one. And Gene Wilder....lets just say that nothing could top Stir Crazy.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » November 11, 2004, 4:32 pm

I don't know, Night Shift and Mr. Mom would be right up there. Especially the latter.

"Clean up on isle 9"

"I wasn't even IN isle 9"

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » November 12, 2004, 5:25 pm

I think Robin Williams would have been great. Someone mentioned what movie they try and think of when they picture him... Mine is Death To Smoochy.. I laughed harder at that movie than damn near anything else I have seen to this day.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 12, 2004, 5:39 pm

I'm Rainbow Fucking Randolph!!

i thought the movie had a lot of potential but wasnt too good ("Smoochy"). Williams' char was funny though.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » November 12, 2004, 5:43 pm

I do have to admit that Williams was pretty good in Smoochy

Homercles · Post by **Homercles** » November 12, 2004, 7:24 pm

Chid is right about Keatons best movie. Mr. Mom by far. Batman was the downfall of his career. Its hard to recover from such an absolute piece of garbage film.

Cage's entire career has been downhill since Raising Arizona. He'll never surpass that movie.

Walken is way too evil to play Willy. I cant see him lighting up with a big smile when Charlie returns the Never Ending Gobstopper.....or is it the Everlasting Gobstopper....I cant remember

I think Depp is the best choice for te role. But regardless, its a Tim Burton movie, so most likely it will be crap.

And whats the deal with him taking pure movie classics like Willy Wonka and Planet of the Apes and trying to remake them in his image. Before we know it, he'll be remaking The Wizard of Oz, starring Hillary Duff.

STOP FUCKING WITH THE CLASSICS BURTON.