I know why Midnyte votes bush....

Rivera Bladestrike · November 4, 2004, 10:02 pm

Simple isn't it? look at the red and the blue

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » November 4, 2004, 10:07 pm

He is from Pennsylvania though...

Rivera Bladestrike · November 4, 2004, 10:11 pm

eh, still fucking stupid... he and his family are the ones bringing down the state's IQ...

Adelrune Argenti · Post by **Adelrune Argenti** » November 4, 2004, 10:29 pm

Funny, I don't seem to remember the mandate that everyone get IQ testing. Where are they getting their samples from?

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » November 4, 2004, 10:30 pm

I saw that, but I've also remember seeing a link that claimed to debunk it. I think it's wrong. 113 is really high for an average in a state.

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » November 4, 2004, 10:36 pm

Im sure this is the reason!

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 4, 2004, 10:40 pm

Cute, but not accurate, nor logical.

And dammit Cracc, Oregon is not Canada! I will concede WA to Canada however.

And don't let any Oregon natives see that CA is a bordering state--far as the folks up here, CA may as well be in France!

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 4, 2004, 10:42 pm

Ouch, 85 average....i thought anything below 95 was borderline retarded

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » November 4, 2004, 10:44 pm

That looks like the same list of states and IQs that was bandied about the blogoverse a few months ago talking about how states broke between Gore and Bush. It is probably a hoax.

Steve Sailer had probably the most extensive writeup about it (I don't read his stuff normally, was linked to it from elsewhere so I can't comment on his general reliability, but his arguments and supporting information seem pretty good).

http://www.isteve.com/Web_Exclusives_Ar ... 6465670139

Actually, just followed one of those links and it goes off to the site that originally posted the chart back then and it has the following ...

http://americanassembler.com/features/i ... erages.htm

I'm the one who posted the IQ chart correlating IQ and votes in the 2000 election. As the "humor" contributor, I am the one that tracks down amusing stories or cartoons to post here at the American Assembler.

When I posted this chart I had no idea the ruckus it would cause from both the left, who opposed conjuring up the whole IQ business, and the right, who opposed the supposed stats.

As this has gotten a bit out of hand, I feel, and the editors feel, that I should take responsibility for posting this thing and clarify my reasons and intents about using what is clearly suspect data in the first place.

It was irresponsible of me to post this chart in this format and I apologize to the American Assembler and it's readers for having done so. It was never my intent for anyone to take this seriously and I erred in judgment in not realizing that people would. Even if this chart is not a hoax, as it most probably is, it was inappropriate to post it for it is simply offensive.

I have to say that I did not invent this chart. It's been floating around for years. All I did was dress it up a bit. But I regret posting it and I regret the fallacious distraction it's caused from the real issues presented on this site. And yes, I even apologize to Republicans for implying they are stupid. Some people around here still think there's hope for you all.

I now agree with some readers, and my editors, that, while I thought this would be a bit of amusing banter, it is damaging to the credibility of the Assembler and distracting from the real issues facing our country. My attempt to mock Republicans for voting for George Bush by posting suspect IQ data was not funny or constructive.

It is not the position of the American Assembler that there is any relevance whatsoever to any attempt to correlate intelligence or academic achievement with political leanings.

Once again, please accept my apologies for bad judgment and bad taste.

So, pretty sure they are bogus numbers (as seemed fairly likely even at a glance, the spread in average iq between states looks a fair amount too high).

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » November 4, 2004, 10:49 pm

Also, if you scroll down a ways on the Steve Sailer link I posted above he has some data on 8th grade reading and math scores broken down by state among some other things, kind of interesting.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 4, 2004, 10:56 pm

Xzion wrote:Ouch, 85 average....i thought anything below 95 was borderline retarded

I think that number is 60. Are IQ tests still given to children? I would have thought that much more meaningful tests would be around--or the "political correctness" factor would have kicked in some time in the mid 90's and ushered the tests out.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 4, 2004, 11:05 pm

Cracc wrote:Im sure this is the reason!

What a great picture.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 4, 2004, 11:09 pm

Then again, I suppose I do not need a passport to visit the USC now to get all my free pot and flu shots.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · November 4, 2004, 11:25 pm

143, thanks for being so concerned with me though.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 4, 2004, 11:35 pm

Sorry, IQ tests taken over the Internet don't count.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 4, 2004, 11:41 pm

Shhh that was his weekly salary.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » November 5, 2004, 12:24 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:143, thanks for being so concerned with me though.

The only way your IQ is 143 is if it's graded on a curve.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 5, 2004, 12:27 am

Canelek wrote:
Xzion wrote:Ouch, 85 average....i thought anything below 95 was borderline retarded
I think that number is 60. Are IQ tests still given to children? I would have thought that much more meaningful tests would be around--or the "political correctness" factor would have kicked in some time in the mid 90's and ushered the tests out.

I never believed in IQ tests personally, its all bullshit (and i have a 145 IQ)

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2004, 1:04 am

Rivera Bladestrike wrote:

Simple isn't it? look at the red and the blue

Why the hell didn't the republicans win Oregon!? 99's must be the intellectual swing states.

Ninefingers · Post by **Ninefingers** » November 5, 2004, 1:20 am

Xzion wrote:Ouch, 85 average....i thought anything below 95 was borderline retarded

May have already been clarified, but anything 70 and below can be considered "Mentally Retarded" by the DSM IV. South of 70 and your gonna have problems.

And I'm sure that picture was created to make the Dems feel better about the election... Suppose they do need something right? (Besides, of course, Weed.)

And then there were...

Ninefingers

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » November 5, 2004, 2:03 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:43, thanks for being so concerned with me though.

There, typo fixed. =D

-=Lohrno

Nick · Post by **Nick** » November 5, 2004, 6:56 am

Cracc, thats hilarious

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 5, 2004, 8:32 am

Cracc wrote:Im sure this is the reason!

ROFL!!! This is f'ing hilarious.

Llaffer · Post by **Llaffer** » November 5, 2004, 12:16 pm

Source of this image is USAToday:

Too bad the election couldn't be determined by square footage - then there wouldn't be any argument, and it would force politicians to campaign in more than a small handfull of states.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » November 5, 2004, 12:17 pm

yeah dirt should get a vote!

Equal protection under the law for inanimate objects!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2004, 1:11 pm

Llaffer wrote:Source of this image is USAToday:

Too bad the election couldn't be determined by square footage - then there wouldn't be any argument, and it would force politicians to campaign in more than a small handfull of states.

Nice map. It points out in blue where the next nuclear waste dumps and missiles should be placed.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » November 5, 2004, 1:13 pm

Houston should secede from texas!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · November 5, 2004, 1:18 pm

Excellent district map. Very nice to see. Maybe some will rethink how right they think they are.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » November 5, 2004, 1:25 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Excellent district map. Very nice to see. Maybe some will rethink how right they think they are.

That map just shows how spread out people are, its still doesn't change the fact that only 51% voted Bush.

Damiarch · Post by **Damiarch** » November 5, 2004, 1:51 pm

What I see from that map, is all the dumb hicks living in the country voting Bush, and the intelligent Cityfolk living in the dense populated major cities voting Kerry.

You can't dump nuclear waste in the middle of a major city! You dump it in the country where the dumb hicks live.. hrmm maybe that's why they're so stupid. and why they voted Bush..

P.S. Damn you Cracc! You stole that image from me! (not that I didn't steal it from somewhere else..)

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » November 5, 2004, 2:06 pm

What is the gray in that map?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » November 5, 2004, 2:19 pm

even Houston and Atlanta and all other major cities in the south went for Kerry, guess it prooves those raised among even some culture and diversity will overwhelmingly vote for Kerry, and once again the dumb hicks and jesus crispies that have never traveled further then 350 miles from there home will vote for bush, maybe they just dont know any better

Crav · Post by **Crav** » November 5, 2004, 3:15 pm

Actually the blue speck in the middle is Travis County and the reason it's blue is Austin. Houston is in Harris County which went for Bush.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 5, 2004, 3:26 pm

Canelek wrote:Cute, but not accurate, nor logical.

And dammit Cracc, Oregon is not Canada! I will concede WA to Canada however. And don't let any Oregon natives see that CA is a bordering state--far as the folks up here, CA may as well be in France!

Inferiority complex, we understand

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » November 5, 2004, 4:03 pm

Crav wrote:Actually the blue speck in the middle is Travis County and the reason it's blue is Austin. Houston is in Harris County which went for Bush.

Crav is teh korrekt!

Austin is the bastion of liberalism in the state. Houston with its plethora of "security moms" driving tanks (err SUVs) wouldn't vote any way except the way their God tells them to!

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » November 5, 2004, 4:10 pm

Damiarch wrote:What I see from that map, is all the dumb hicks living in the country voting Bush, and the intelligent Cityfolk living in the dense populated major cities voting Kerry.

You can't dump nuclear waste in the middle of a major city! You dump it in the country where the dumb hicks live.. hrmm maybe that's why they're so stupid. and why they voted Bush..

What a bitter elitist you are. Are you really that arrogant?

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » November 5, 2004, 4:12 pm

erm.. i meant to say Austin.

I'm in oklahoma and we don't have any blue! ha! take that!

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » November 5, 2004, 4:36 pm

even Houston and Atlanta and all other major cities in the south went for Kerry, guess it prooves those raised among even some culture and diversity will overwhelmingly vote for Kerry, and once again the dumb hicks and jesus crispies that have never traveled further then 350 miles from there home will vote for bush, maybe they just dont know any better

Thx for telling me how my City went dude, again you just assume something and post something false! Houston went for Bush Same with Dallas Same with San Antonio..all in the top 10 cities in the US.

Harris(Houston):
Bush- 580,553 55%
Kerry- 472,320 45%

Dallas:
Bush 345,482 50%
Kerry 335,871 49%

Bexar(San Antonio):
Bush: 259,762 55%
Kerry: 210,354 44%

Some other major Cities that went for Bush:
San diego, Tampa, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Phoenix, Fort Worth, Oklahoma city, Tulsa....

Other Cities that were very close:
Indianapolis, Miami, Baltimore,Charlotte, El Paso, Las Vegas, Sacramento.

Cities in the top 10 in the US that went for Bush:
Houston #4, Phoeinix #6, San Diego #7, San Antonio #8, Dallas #9...5 cities in the top 10.

Then besides taking a good share of cities you have this:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicsel ... ntymap.htm

The US isnt just Boston, New York and the west Coast of California...when ya guys learn that youll have a chance again....You learned it with Bill Clinton.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 5, 2004, 5:28 pm

Almost all of our National Parks are in the red zones. Republicans are the true environmentalists!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · November 5, 2004, 6:04 pm

Sirton wrote:
even Houston and Atlanta and all other major cities in the south went for Kerry, guess it prooves those raised among even some culture and diversity will overwhelmingly vote for Kerry, and once again the dumb hicks and jesus crispies that have never traveled further then 350 miles from there home will vote for bush, maybe they just dont know any better

Thx for telling me how my City went dude, again you just assume something and post something false! Houston went for Bush Same with Dallas Same with San Antonio..all in the top 10 cities in the US.

Harris(Houston):
Bush- 580,553 55%
Kerry- 472,320 45%

Dallas:
Bush 345,482 50%
Kerry 335,871 49%

Bexar(San Antonio):
Bush: 259,762 55%
Kerry: 210,354 44%

Some other major Cities that went for Bush:
San diego, Tampa, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Phoenix, Fort Worth, Oklahoma city, Tulsa....

Other Cities that were very close:
Indianapolis, Miami, Baltimore,Charlotte, El Paso, Las Vegas, Sacramento.

Cities in the top 10 in the US that went for Bush:
Houston #4, Phoeinix #6, San Diego #7, San Antonio #8, Dallas #9...5 cities in the top 10.

Then besides taking a good share of cities you have this:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicsel ... ntymap.htm

The US isnt just Boston, New York and the west Coast of California...when ya guys learn that youll have a chance again....You learned it with Bill Clinton.

Best post of the year!

Truth is awesome.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » November 5, 2004, 9:03 pm

This map is fairly useful I think to keep some perspective as well.

http://www.boingboing.net/images/Purple-USA.jpg

Even the places that go fairly heavily to one side or the other, still have a fair amount of people voting the other way.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » November 5, 2004, 9:45 pm

Houston is a shithole. That is all.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » November 6, 2004, 12:08 am

Kelshara wrote:Houston is a shithole. That is all.

!!!

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » November 6, 2004, 12:47 am

The map isn't broken down enough chmee, it's still based on states.

Drasta · Post by **Drasta** » November 6, 2004, 12:53 am

well if 5 of the top 10 city's went to bush ... then umm .. didn't the other 5 top 10 city's go to kerry? =-P

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » November 6, 2004, 12:47 pm

Drasta wrote:well if 5 of the top 10 city's went to bush ... then umm .. didn't the other 5 top 10 city's go to kerry? =-P

Are you trying to make some sort of point with that statement? Xzion was making a generalizing statement along the lines of "Intelligent city residents vote for Kerry and ignorant country folk vote for Bush because God says so." By saying 5 out of the 10 top cities in America voted for Bush, Sirton's refuting that claim. No shit the other 5 went to Kerry. Who else would they go to? Nader?

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » November 6, 2004, 1:39 pm

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:
Drasta wrote:well if 5 of the top 10 city's went to bush ... then umm .. didn't the other 5 top 10 city's go to kerry? =-P
Are you trying to make some sort of point with that statement? Xzion was making a generalizing statement along the lines of "Intelligent city residents vote for Kerry and ignorant country folk vote for Bush because God says so." By saying 5 out of the 10 top cities in America voted for Bush, Sirton's refuting that claim. No shit the other 5 went to Kerry. Who else would they go to? Nader?

Sirton narrows the list to top 10 cities just to support his case, in this case claiming 50\50 in metro areas (i.e. 5\10 sounds better than 1\5 top5), and coincedently the top 10 contains a decent number of texans.

Kerry did much better in metro areas in general than Bush. Even in deep red states Kerry did well in the metro areas where as Bush controls the rural areas.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » November 6, 2004, 1:48 pm

Kelshara wrote:Houston is a shithole. That is all.

I found Houston to be a pretty nice place actually, a lot different than what I was expecting! I can't speak for living there, but a vacation there was fucking great!

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » November 6, 2004, 2:21 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:
Kelshara wrote:Houston is a shithole. That is all.
I found Houston to be a pretty nice place actually, a lot different than what I was expecting! I can't speak for living there, but a vacation there was fucking great!

Houston's a pretty cool place to live. Lots of fun things to do and a robust economy.

Sirton · Post by **Sirton** » November 6, 2004, 3:42 pm

Houston is great to live in. Economy is almost always doing good. The night life the past 3-4 years has gotten great. The food is excellent. Great skyline. The people are extremely nice aswell. Sporting teams and avenues are the top of there industries. Not the best, but OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of water sports to do in the area. The Bad air is mainly in the Pasadena area heh. And any city with a ton of trees or green has high ozone levels. Its not New York, San Fransico, Boston or Chicago for certain different things. But its my home, and deff. not a shithole like someones mouth. There only reason for calling it that is the city is in Texas and they hate Bush.

Forthe yea its common sense most people in the cities vote for Kerry, but Xzion was acting like everyone in the city votes Kerry and acted like Houston did. I just pointed out 5 of the top 10 didn't and about 20 of the top 50 didn't.

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