So you are blocking Cart's IPs now?

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » October 6, 2004, 9:47 pm

Just talking to Cartalas on the phone. You have blocked his work and home subnets?

Pretty stinkin low...

Why don't you block mine too? 69.128.10.0 /24

Bye VV... I won't claim it was fun. Too many ppl with heads up their asses to be fun.

-Met

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » October 6, 2004, 9:54 pm

I'm going to hope Cart is having internet problems and has blown this out of proportion. I don't think the VV mods would ever do anything like that to someone.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » October 6, 2004, 10:26 pm

Nah if they are blocking Cart's IP I doubt it was because of something he posted, odds are it is a problem with his DNS server, or his side.

I do not think the mods here would summarily block anyones IP range, without letting everyone know why or at least a basic outline of why.

Not to mention that any moron can overcome an IP range block. Even Script kiddies

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » October 6, 2004, 10:26 pm

Well, he did tell one of the site admins to fuck himself...

Still, I agree with Mid. I really don't think any of the powers that be would ban him. In fact, they've all pretty much put their foot down at various times in various threads and said that they would not...

noel · Post by **noel** » October 6, 2004, 11:42 pm

Metanis wrote:Just talking to Cartalas on the phone. You have blocked his work and home subnets?

Pretty stinkin low...

Why don't you block mine too? 69.128.10.0 /24

Bye VV... I won't claim it was fun. Too many ppl with heads up their asses to be fun.

-Met

OH NOS! METANIS IS LEAVING!!! CLOSE DOWN THE SITE!

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » October 7, 2004, 1:20 am

Doubt anyone blocked any IPs, that is usually reserved for anon folks... however it is such a noble cause, leaving for the sake of others..

oh wait, who gives a fuck?

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 7, 2004, 2:32 am

I got one think to say

fuck You and the Dumb Fuck

noel · Post by **noel** » October 7, 2004, 2:46 am

This thread makes the baby Jesus laugh.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 7, 2004, 3:04 am

Stragi wrote:I got one think to say

fuck You and the Dumb Fuck

lol Stragi for the win!

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » October 7, 2004, 7:17 am

People tell the mods to go fuck themselves on a daily basis. Why should Cart be banned for doing it now.

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » October 7, 2004, 9:05 am

Animalor wrote:People tell the mods to go fuck themselves on a daily basis. Why should Cart be banned for doing it now.

Re-read the post:

Well, he did tell one of the site admins to fuck himself...

Still, I agree with Mid. I really don't think any of the powers that be would ban him. In fact, they've all pretty much put their foot down at various times in various threads and said that they would not...

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » October 7, 2004, 9:22 am

if its true, 2 down, 1 to go.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » October 7, 2004, 9:43 am

afik, the mods haven't.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 7, 2004, 12:19 pm

You're such a victim.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 7, 2004, 12:21 pm

'Your' both ass-pounding, pillow-biting anal agitators.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 7, 2004, 12:22 pm

Ohs noes, teh mods have stoled yuor megahurtz!

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » October 7, 2004, 1:04 pm

To my knowledge Cart hasn't been blocked... it's probably just a Internet issue.

Marb

miir · Post by **miir** » October 7, 2004, 1:11 pm

Marbus wrote:To my knowledge Cart hasn't been blocked... it's probably just a Internet issue.

Marb

I blame Al Gore and the Liberal media...

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » October 7, 2004, 1:57 pm

noel wrote:
Metanis wrote:Just talking to Cartalas on the phone. You have blocked his work and home subnets?

Pretty stinkin low...

Why don't you block mine too? 69.128.10.0 /24

Bye VV... I won't claim it was fun. Too many ppl with heads up their asses to be fun.

-Met
OH NOS! METANIS IS LEAVING!!! CLOSE DOWN THE SITE!

Hey dumbass perhaps you like a world filled with bicycle riding, closet perverts, whose opinion sways with popular opinion. But I enjoy diversity in life as well as opinion.

So if you think it is a good thing when someone leaves the boards because their opinion is different than yours or because they express that opinion in a different manner then you sir are a class a fucktard.

You should start your own site, sign up under a miriad of names and discuss politics, sports, religion to your hearts content. Everyone will agree with your insightful banter.

Hell man you could even make some accounts of the female persuasion and have them ask you for picts, agree with all your posts and you could even create a Metanis account and make fun of him.

Call it the Real Internet according to Noel.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 7, 2004, 2:18 pm

Leaving the board for a differeing opinion? Well for one, Cartalas is far too stupid to post anything resembling an opinion, and if Metanis wants to be a baby and leave because he thinks Cart is banned, before its even looked into, well just how is that differing opinion? Serious question. Paranoid dumbfucks.

You guys are so fucking out there that you're letting your stupid fucking politic beliefs cloud your judgement in everything.. step back and see how sickening it is.. Jesus. I gurantee you if Cartalas is banned, it is NOT IN ANYWAY RELATED TO HIS POLITICAL OPINONS. Not like any of you will believe it though.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » October 7, 2004, 2:22 pm

Well it seems funny that the 3 different class C's that a use no longer work, But hey What the hell Proxy servers are your friend.

noel · Post by **noel** » October 7, 2004, 2:23 pm

Atokal wrote:Hey dumbass perhaps you like a world filled with bicycle riding, closet perverts, whose opinion sways with popular opinion. But I enjoy diversity in life as well as opinion.

So if you think it is a good thing when someone leaves the boards because their opinion is different than yours or because they express that opinion in a different manner then you sir are a class a fucktard.

You should start your own site, sign up under a miriad of names and discuss politics, sports, religion to your hearts content. Everyone will agree with your insightful banter.

Hell man you could even make some accounts of the female persuasion and have them ask you for picts, agree with all your posts and you could even create a Metanis account and make fun of him.

Call it the Real Internet according to Noel.

Why would I want to do that when I can just post here, read and post on cycling forums, spend my free time doing whatever I want, and watch a myriad of people make you look like a fool on a daily basis.

I don't really care if Cart was banned or not. I am pro-banning people who:

Continuously buck the system
Are disrespectful to the people who provide this board for ALL of our enjoyment
Continuously violate one of the few rules we have here (this includes you)

You'll get no sympathy, and no quarter, from me. I have no idea why Cart can't connect, and I really don't care, but I do know that he's been warned on many occasions that his behavior was unacceptable, and he expressed indifference. I find it sadly ironic that he doesn't care about following the rules here, but does care if he can't post here. It's a strange dichotomy.

As far as difference of opinion... I don't always agree with Dregor, Sylvus, Xouqoa, Truant, Kyoukan, Miir, Aruman, Akaran, Aslanna, Raistin, and many others, but the clear difference is that they don't consistently make fat jokes, post off-topic derogatory one-liners in every single thread, and generally make asses of themselves on a regular basis. Cart was occasionally funny, and I have laughed out loud at more than a few of his posts, but Cart broke the rules and knew it. I seriously doubt he's banned/blocked etc, but he sure as hell should have been.

Oh I just want to add that jokes about me cycling get funnier and funnier every time you make one! Keep up the good work.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 7, 2004, 2:36 pm

I'm seriously pondering flaming you for using the word dichotomy..

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » October 7, 2004, 2:37 pm

noel · Post by **noel** » October 7, 2004, 2:43 pm

Stragi wrote:I'm seriously pondering flaming you for using the word dichotomy..

Sorry, I was just annoyed that Atokal was attempting to obfuscate the real issue.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 7, 2004, 2:46 pm

noel wrote:
Stragi wrote:I'm seriously pondering flaming you for using the word dichotomy..
Sorry, I was just annoyed that Atokal was attempting to obfuscate the real issue.

dictionary.com called, they want their words back.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 7, 2004, 2:48 pm

hahaha

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » October 7, 2004, 2:54 pm

I requested Cartalas be banned for having disagreeable posting habits.

This request was received on Monday, Processed on Tuesday, and the result was a lifetime ban effective Wednesday.

You are next!

miir · Post by **miir** » October 7, 2004, 3:09 pm

Atokal wrote:He dumbass possibly like you that a world if fulled with mounting straddling the bicycle, pervertido of wandschrank, that the opinion affects with the popular opinion.

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What the fuc?

Hoarmurath · Post by **Hoarmurath** » October 7, 2004, 3:27 pm

I'm actually curious as to why Cartalas can't get to this site without a proxy. Can you connect to the server at all? Can you just not log in? Is veeshanvault.org pingable? What doess the traceroute say? Is this a dropped route, a firewall block, or an administrative ban from within the forum application? Or none of the above? Inquiring geeks want to know!

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » October 7, 2004, 3:32 pm

This is very unlikely but maybe he accidently turned HTTP 1.1 settings off in advanced options for either ie or mozilla, and turned HTTP 1.1 settings (through proxy) on, which would explain why he could only get through on a proxy. I know I used a proxy once and forgot I left it on - couldn't access some sites like http://www.magelo.com because the HTTP 1.1 setting was off.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 7, 2004, 5:02 pm

There are some new rules going into effect starting soon.

1K Worthiness Poll
-When you reach 1000 posts, an automatic yes/no poll will be posted as to whether or not you should be banned.

5K Logan's Run Rule
-Once you reach 5000 posts, you must come up with a new angle or be banned. (Aranuil --> Noel) (Voronwe --> Liberal Spin Doctor) for example : )

Too many new threads rule
-If you have created over half of the topics that are on the first page of any forum, you will be banned. (bumping threads diliberately to ban Siji who averages about 48% will not be tolerated!)

Kwon Rule
-If viewing a thread that you have posted in requires downloading more than a combined 2 GB of .sig files and animated avatar files, you will be banned.

Cheerleader Rule
-No bandwagoning onto the coattails of a good flamer. If you're going to flame, use your own material or you will be banned!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » October 7, 2004, 5:15 pm

Hoarmurath wrote:I'm actually curious as to why Cartalas can't get to this site without a proxy. Can you connect to the server at all? Can you just not log in? Is veeshanvault.org pingable? What doess the traceroute say? Is this a dropped route, a firewall block, or an administrative ban from within the forum application? Or none of the above? Inquiring geeks want to know!

Here are the symptoms, Tracerouting to veeshanvault.org or its IP I get Timeouts right at the Host Server for VV. On all 3 Class c's SO I thought hmm Ill try Firefox and it says Connection refused from the host server. So you tell me?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » October 7, 2004, 5:24 pm

Rellix wrote:This is very unlikely but maybe he accidently turned HTTP 1.1 settings off in advanced options for either ie or mozilla, and turned HTTP 1.1 settings (through proxy) on, which would explain why he could only get through on a proxy. I know I used a proxy once and forgot I left it on - couldn't access some sites like http://www.magelo.com because the HTTP 1.1 setting was off.

3 different pc's 3 different locations thats not it

Hoarmurath · Post by **Hoarmurath** » October 7, 2004, 5:25 pm

Cartalas wrote: Here are the symptoms, Tracerouting to veeshanvault.org or its IP I get Timeouts right at the Host Server for VV. On all 3 Class c's SO I thought hmm Ill try Firefox and it says Connection refused from the host server. So you tell me?

Did VV ever gets a dedicated box or are they still sharing one, like with a virtual hoster? If it's shared, then I doubt that the VV admins have the access required to block you from the OS-level (like with a software firewall like iptables) However, I thought that the board moved to a dedicated box, so maybe they do have admin access to do that. Hmmm.

Of course it could (at least in theory) be an overzealous DDoS-blocker or some other kind of automatic thing that got tripped off by someone else in the same address space as you has a virus and may be doing something mean like port scanning or sweeping Windows ports for vulnerabilities.

Of course I have no clue, I'm just guessing. But this is pretty much the kind of crap I deal with at work all the time, so it's a bit intriguing.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 7, 2004, 5:26 pm

Winnow wrote:There are some new rules going into effect starting soon.

5K Logan's Run Rule
-Once you reach 5000 posts, you must come up with a new angle or be banned. (Aranuil --> Noel) (Voronwe --> Liberal Spin Doctor) for example : )

83 more posts, what is your new angle going to be?!

noel · Post by **noel** » October 7, 2004, 5:27 pm

Breaking news: It has been discovered that the the application layer is above the network layer in the OSI model!

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

miir · Post by **miir** » October 7, 2004, 5:42 pm

Stragi wrote:
Winnow wrote:There are some new rules going into effect starting soon.

5K Logan's Run Rule
-Once you reach 5000 posts, you must come up with a new angle or be banned. (Aranuil --> Noel) (Voronwe --> Liberal Spin Doctor) for example : )

83 more posts, what is your new angle going to be?!

He's gonna pull a kyoukan and ask for a negative post count.

Post by **Sylvus** » October 7, 2004, 5:47 pm

Hoarmurath wrote:
Cartalas wrote: Here are the symptoms, Tracerouting to veeshanvault.org or its IP I get Timeouts right at the Host Server for VV. On all 3 Class c's SO I thought hmm Ill try Firefox and it says Connection refused from the host server. So you tell me?
Did VV ever gets a dedicated box or are they still sharing one, like with a virtual hoster? If it's shared, then I doubt that the VV admins have the access required to block you from the OS-level (like with a software firewall like iptables) However, I thought that the board moved to a dedicated box, so maybe they do have admin access to do that. Hmmm.

Of course it could (at least in theory) be an overzealous DDoS-blocker or some other kind of automatic thing that got tripped off by someone else in the same address space as you has a virus and may be doing something mean like port scanning or sweeping Windows ports for vulnerabilities.

Of course I have no clue, I'm just guessing. But this is pretty much the kind of crap I deal with at work all the time, so it's a bit intriguing.

If we wanted to ban him we'd just go into the phpbb admin and click "ban this user". It's possible that the colo has a firewall script that got tripped for whatever reason, I don't really care enough to look into it. It appears he can still hit the board, so I'm not going to go out of my way to help him out.

MooZilla · Post by **MooZilla** » October 7, 2004, 5:59 pm

Atokal wrote:
noel wrote:
Metanis wrote:Just talking to Cartalas on the phone. You have blocked his work and home subnets?

Pretty stinkin low...

Why don't you block mine too? 69.128.10.0 /24

Bye VV... I won't claim it was fun. Too many ppl with heads up their asses to be fun.

-Met
OH NOS! METANIS IS LEAVING!!! CLOSE DOWN THE SITE!
Hey dumbass perhaps you like a world filled with bicycle riding, closet perverts, whose opinion sways with popular opinion. But I enjoy diversity in life as well as opinion.

So if you think it is a good thing when someone leaves the boards because their opinion is different than yours or because they express that opinion in a different manner then you sir are a class a fucktard.

You should start your own site, sign up under a miriad of names and discuss politics, sports, religion to your hearts content. Everyone will agree with your insightful banter.

Hell man you could even make some accounts of the female persuasion and have them ask you for picts, agree with all your posts and you could even create a Metanis account and make fun of him.

Call it the Real Internet according to Noel.

Atokal....you're....

Nevermind. I cant finish the sentance.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 7, 2004, 7:23 pm

miir wrote:
Stragi wrote:
Winnow wrote:There are some new rules going into effect starting soon.

5K Logan's Run Rule
-Once you reach 5000 posts, you must come up with a new angle or be banned. (Aranuil --> Noel) (Voronwe --> Liberal Spin Doctor) for example : )

83 more posts, what is your new angle going to be?!
He's gonna pull a kyoukan and ask for a negative post count.

I might retire Winnow at 5,000 and level up Winni. It's the journey not the destination! With the new sportsbook Sylvus is putting in, I will be at 10K VVs in no time!

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » October 7, 2004, 10:02 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Hoarmurath wrote:
Cartalas wrote: Here are the symptoms, Tracerouting to veeshanvault.org or its IP I get Timeouts right at the Host Server for VV. On all 3 Class c's SO I thought hmm Ill try Firefox and it says Connection refused from the host server. So you tell me?
Did VV ever gets a dedicated box or are they still sharing one, like with a virtual hoster? If it's shared, then I doubt that the VV admins have the access required to block you from the OS-level (like with a software firewall like iptables) However, I thought that the board moved to a dedicated box, so maybe they do have admin access to do that. Hmmm.

Of course it could (at least in theory) be an overzealous DDoS-blocker or some other kind of automatic thing that got tripped off by someone else in the same address space as you has a virus and may be doing something mean like port scanning or sweeping Windows ports for vulnerabilities.

Of course I have no clue, I'm just guessing. But this is pretty much the kind of crap I deal with at work all the time, so it's a bit intriguing.
If we wanted to ban him we'd just go into the phpbb admin and click "ban this user". It's possible that the colo has a firewall script that got tripped for whatever reason, I don't really care enough to look into it. It appears he can still hit the board, so I'm not going to go out of my way to help him out.

Yeah 3 seperate Class c' in different Co Locs al did the same thing at the same time, Yeah we are al stupid enought to believe that.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » October 7, 2004, 11:00 pm

Okay, if Cart continues to be clueless Ban him.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » October 8, 2004, 12:29 am

Winnow,
Give Stephen King his "It's the journey, not the destination" line back. I have never wanted to shove someone's words up their ass as bad as when I finished the last dark tower book and saw that near the end...

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » October 8, 2004, 12:37 am

This is obviously some kind of conspiracy....

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 8, 2004, 12:51 am

Funkmasterr wrote:Winnow,
Give Stephen King his "It's the journey, not the destination" line back. I have never wanted to shove someone's words up their ass as bad as when I finished the last dark tower book and saw that near the end...

When did he write that? I made that line up in a drama post back when I was about to guild hop out of Obsidian Guard in 2000. Thief!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » October 8, 2004, 1:19 am

In the final book to the Dark Tower series. He defended his shitty ending to the series, which he knew would upset lots of people, by basically calling them pathetic and saying he doesn't care what they think if they can't understand that "it's the Journey, not the destination".

He actually made an analogy to sex and said something along the lines of - you are the same people who think of sex only as the "squirt" that happens at the end, when that is really god's way of saying that the sex is over.. Or some bullshit like that.

noel · Post by **noel** » October 8, 2004, 2:17 am

Kylere wrote:Okay, if Cart continues to be clueless Ban him.

Good post!

Colal · Post by **Colal** » October 8, 2004, 3:38 am

Dude,

You weren't banned. This should be obvious by the fact that you are still posting here.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » October 8, 2004, 5:59 am

Cartalas wrote: Yeah 3 seperate Class c' in different Co Locs al did the same thing at the same time, Yeah we are al stupid enought to believe that.

Hrmm... so, from your description you're saying the server was dropping you, which is a failure/denial at the transport layer, which means the multiple IP's you were using would have needed to be denied.

Ping/Traceroute proves you can move ICMP packets, that doesn't mean you have a TCP route to the server. There's any number of things that could fail and give you these symptoms.

In conclusion, you're retarded or paranoid or both.

VeeshanVault

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