Test your trivia, Name the Date of statement.

[Adex_Xeda]

I bumped into this quote in a history book that I was reading. Some things never seem to change.

See if you guys can pin the date on this quote. What year was it spoken?

Music of the United States has been thrown into disrepute through the unspeakably depraved modern popular song, .... which consists of brazenly suggestive words to a catchy rag-time accompaniment. It's effect on young folk is shocking. The vicious song is allowed in the home by parents, who, no doubt, have not troubled themselves to look at the words. As a result the suggestive meanings are allowed to play upon immature minds at the dangerous age. It is from the popular song that the popular suggestive dance sprang. Together and apart they are a menance to the social fabric.

-Maud Powell.


I swear Tipper Gore could of said this in the 80s.


Can you guess the date?

[Aaeamdar]

Maud Powell is early 1900's. I had no idea she was ever involved in politics (and sice she was Black, I guess I am suprised to learn she was)

[Keverian FireCry]

1890ish?

[Canoe]

Seeing the "rag tag" comment... i'd guess somewhere in the 1910's or early 20's

[Zaelath]

Because people were fighting moral degredation 100 years ago means they shouldn't be now?

Just trying to understand what a bible thumper would have against attempting to preserve moral standards..

"Wow-- FOX turned into a hardcore porn channel so slowly I never even noticed!" -- Marge Simpson

[Xzion-]

Because people were fighting moral degredation 100 years ago means they shouldn't be now?

Just trying to understand what a bible thumper would have against attempting to preserve moral standards..

"Wow-- FOX turned into a hardcore porn channel so slowly I never even noticed!" -- Marge Simpson

Goddammit please dont tell me you believe in that.
The government has no place to regulate "morality" and opress personal "moral" belifs on the people. If people are offended by something, they can choose not to listen/watch/pay attention to it.
Im more passionate on this issue then probably any other.

[Zaelath]

Where did I refer to the government?

I really do believe there's been a massive slide into self interest at the cost of giving kid strong role models, and I think you'll see the cost of that over the next 30 years.

[Aruman]

Where did I refer to the government?

I really do believe there's been a massive slide into self interest at the cost of giving kid strong role models, and I think you'll see the cost of that over the next 30 years.

Quit making sense Zaelath... it makes Xzion froth at the mouth.

[Rivera Bladestrike]

Scott Joplin?

[Crav]

Hmm only reference I could find was in 1913, it mentions a Washington Times article. I'm not really surprised, people have been trying to dictate morality and such for as long as we've had civilization, one century is a drop in the bucket.

[Adex_Xeda]

I don't thump bibles.


My remarks carried no message, other than I found it interesting that expressions such as this are societal constants.

[Nick]

Poor Adex TT

[Lalanae]

Because people were fighting moral degredation 100 years ago means they shouldn't be now?

Just trying to understand what a bible thumper would have against attempting to preserve moral standards..

"Wow-- FOX turned into a hardcore porn channel so slowly I never even noticed!" -- Marge Simpson

Goddammit please dont tell me you believe in that.
The government has no place to regulate "morality" and opress personal "moral" belifs on the people. If people are offended by something, they can choose not to listen/watch/pay attention to it.
Im more passionate on this issue then probably any other.

But should parents do a better job of not allowing their children to view/listen to inappropriate material instead of trying to remove the material from society?

The problem with today's kids is lazy parenting, not exposure to Howard Stern. Parents who blame the rest of the world for the problems of their children. I know parents who take the time to properly raise their children and they don't seem to have a problem with their kids acting out. But it's much easier to point a finger at other sources.

[Zaelath]

Because people were fighting moral degredation 100 years ago means they shouldn't be now?

Just trying to understand what a bible thumper would have against attempting to preserve moral standards..

"Wow-- FOX turned into a hardcore porn channel so slowly I never even noticed!" -- Marge Simpson

Goddammit please dont tell me you believe in that.
The government has no place to regulate "morality" and opress personal "moral" belifs on the people. If people are offended by something, they can choose not to listen/watch/pay attention to it.
Im more passionate on this issue then probably any other.

But should parents do a better job of not allowing their children to view/listen to inappropriate material instead of trying to remove the material from society?

The problem with today's kids is lazy parenting, not exposure to Howard Stern. Parents who blame the rest of the world for the problems of their children. I know parents who take the time to properly raise their children and they don't seem to have a problem with their kids acting out. But it's much easier to point a finger at other sources.

That's what I said!

I really do believe there's been a massive slide into self interest at the cost of giving kids strong role models, and I think you'll see the cost of that over the next 30 years.

See

[Arborealus]

Because people were fighting moral degredation 100 years ago means they shouldn't be now?

Just trying to understand what a bible thumper would have against attempting to preserve moral standards..

"Wow-- FOX turned into a hardcore porn channel so slowly I never even noticed!" -- Marge Simpson

Goddammit please dont tell me you believe in that.
The government has no place to regulate "morality" and opress personal "moral" belifs on the people. If people are offended by something, they can choose not to listen/watch/pay attention to it.
Im more passionate on this issue then probably any other.

But should parents do a better job of not allowing their children to view/listen to inappropriate material instead of trying to remove the material from society?

The problem with today's kids is lazy parenting, not exposure to Howard Stern. Parents who blame the rest of the world for the problems of their children. I know parents who take the time to properly raise their children and they don't seem to have a problem with their kids acting out. But it's much easier to point a finger at other sources.

I'm not so sure it's "lazy parenting," so much as absentee/exhausted parenting. The economic "necessity" of both parents working means that:

a) neither parent is able to spend adequate time with their child

b) such time as parents have to spend with their child they are tired from working all day

What kids really need is consistency and time devoted to them by significant people in their lives. A person they see for 3 hours a day is relatively insignificant. Kids need to have, not solely someone who punishes misbehaviour but someone they can model good behaviours after.

A person they see for 3-4 hours a day who spends the bulk of that time correcting misbehaviour is not providing adequate models of how to behave (kids won't internalize this).

The reality is kids need attention both corrective and exemplary. Yup parents need to monitor their kids exposure to external media. But to have a significant impact on their behaviours we need to be with them a significant portion of their time, if we aren't then their models are whomever is with them most.

[Adex_Xeda]

The magic number is 1906. Part of a very interesting study I'm doing on the history of Rock and Roll.

[Lalanae]

I still think it's lazy parenting most of the time from what I've witnessed with parents. Too many dumbasses having kids they don't want or want for the wrong reasons. Then they don't want the responsibility.

Plenty of good kids come from single family homes or dual-income families. The difference between them and the bad kids are how involved the parents seem to want to be. It only takes a few minutes a day to show a kid you are interested and involved.

[*~*stragi*~*]

I don't know if I really like single parent homes.. coming from one myself I know I've found myself in many situations where I was wishing I had a father. I feel it has left a large gap in my life personally, and my mother wasn't prepared, and did not want to accept the responsiblity of filling both parenting rolls, which is something every single parent needs to be ready to accept.