Saddam captured

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » December 15, 2003, 8:07 pm

Arundel Pajo wrote:I wasn't much of a fan of his father - he was too much Reagan's lapdog, and I think we have all seen with disastrous results just how well Reaganomics (voodoo economics, trickle down economics, etc...) actually work.

Bush Sr. wasn't Reagan's lapdog, at least ideologically speaking. In fact, if I remember correctly, Bush was the one who came up with the term voodoo economics to describe Reaganomics (when running against him in the 1980 primary).

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » December 15, 2003, 8:38 pm

By the way, although certainly not perfect, in my opinion Reagan was much better than either of the Bushes.

Stalker Vacio · Post by **Stalker Vacio** » December 15, 2003, 9:32 pm

Perot in '04 !!!!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 15, 2003, 10:06 pm

Chmee wrote:By the way, although certainly not perfect, in my opinion Reagan was much better than either of the Bushes.

yeah if you're going to waste 4-8 years with a republican in the white house you might as well get a senile one that will just sleep through his whole term.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » December 15, 2003, 11:16 pm

*cough* I must say that the rarity of this moment necessitates restatement.

I AGREED with Kyoukan a few threads up.

And tomorrow, hell will dip below 32°

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » December 15, 2003, 11:29 pm

See, that didn't surprise me overmuch, Adex. You and Kyoukan have a whole lot of different beliefs, and are totally of two different political stripes, but you're a smart guy. You think things through rather than just towing the party line.

It's one thing for two people to both be well informed yet disagree, and it's something else entirely to just be contrary because because you're too lazy or ignorant to research an issue and decide for yourself where you stand on it.

The former, while disagreeing, can usually have a certain amount of respect for each other, and sometimes might agree. The latter rarely can.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » December 15, 2003, 11:41 pm

Hehe, the day Kyo respects me, WILL be the day Hell freezes over.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 16, 2003, 1:29 pm

Adex_Xeda wrote:Hehe, the day Kyo respects me, WILL be the day Hell freezes over.

Step one toward respect would be losing the Indiana Jones hat on the half elf with a beard!

Mukyluk · Post by **Mukyluk** » December 16, 2003, 1:39 pm

Adex_Xeda wrote:According to the man on the street interviews I saw yesterday, the big thing is most Iraqi families have had some kind of horror story incident with Saddam's former government. To them it's a great release of frustration to see him finally captured.

Also, the figurehead of a political movement was captured in a humiliating manner that helped burst the mystique he'd built up as being some kind of tough guy.

Overall I think his capture will be a morale boost of the everyday Iraqi. It's another indicator that things are indeed changing.

He's not coming back, and that is a great emotional release.

look at the lavish condition hes been liveing in for the past few months.
http://www.cnn.com/
click on the spider hole link

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » December 16, 2003, 2:30 pm

And tomorrow, hell will dip below 32°

Get with it Adex: Hell is metric like everywhere else

You should have wrote "Hell will dip below 0"

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » December 16, 2003, 3:01 pm

Hey, if I had my way with things we'd be using the Kelvin scale internationally.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 16, 2003, 3:13 pm

Kelvin doesnt make any sense for normal use.

"Damn its fucking cold, 255 degrees today!"

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » December 16, 2003, 3:53 pm

"The world is better off without you, Mr. Saddam Hussein. And I find it very interesting that when the heat got on, you dug yourself a hole and you crawled in it." (Full story)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
imagine what dubyah would have done or where he would have been if he was in the same situation

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » December 16, 2003, 4:01 pm

I'm all for absolute references Voronwe.

Rare is the time when you can base your measurements on something approaching an absolute. Take advantage of it I say.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 16, 2003, 4:05 pm

i think the range of 0 to 100 spanning water's liquid phase makes more sense for biological organisms =)

IeailandDokktur · Post by **IeailandDokktur** » December 17, 2003, 12:32 pm

they should stone the fucker to death!!!

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » December 17, 2003, 1:06 pm

Voronwë wrote:i think the range of 0 to 100 spanning water's liquid phase makes more sense for biological organisms =)

I was going to make a crack about simple-minded Canuckistanians, but the American system is based largely on Dutch units of measurement..

It was in 1724 that Gabriel Fahrenheit, an instrument maker of Däanzig and Amsterdam, used mercury as the thermometric liquid. Mercury's thermal expansion is large and fairly uniform, it does not adhere to the glass, and it remains a liquid over a wide range of temperatures. Its silvery appearance makes it easy to read.

Fahrenheit described how he calibrated the scale of his mercury thermometer:

"placing the thermometer in a mixture of sal ammoniac or sea salt, ice, and water a point on the scale will be found which is denoted as zero. A second point is obtained if the same mixture is used without salt. Denote this position as 30. A third point, designated as 96, is obtained if the thermometer is placed in the mouth so as to acquire the heat of a healthy man." (D. G. Fahrenheit,Phil. Trans. (London) 33, 78, 1724)
On this scale, Fahrenheit measured the boiling point of water to be 212. Later he adjusted the freezing point of water to 32 so that the interval between the boiling and freezing points of water could be represented by the more rational number 180. Temperatures measured on this scale are designated as degrees Fahrenheit (° F).

This will not do.

In conclusion, blame the Danes.

Post by **Sylvus** » December 17, 2003, 1:21 pm

IeailandDokktur wrote:they should stone the fucker to death!!!

Thank you for enriching our lives!

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » December 17, 2003, 1:35 pm

It just goes to show that one should make sure to do all of his work in a common sense manner. There's no telling when some large movement of society might latch on to your idea and make it a standard eh?

Mort · Post by **Mort** » December 17, 2003, 1:56 pm

WHAT

THE

FUCK!

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_pag ... 02,00.html

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » December 17, 2003, 2:16 pm

We release the video, vatican slams us for saying we treat him like a cow
We dont release the video, the world thinks we are treating him badly
so fuck the vatican

Siji · Post by **Siji** » December 17, 2003, 4:51 pm

IeailandDokktur wrote:they should stone the fucker to death!!!

And how is a 3 lb bag of Columbian Gold, some rolling papers and a lighter going to scare him?

Truant · Post by **Truant** » December 17, 2003, 5:08 pm

like the opinion of the vatican amounts to anything.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » December 17, 2003, 6:01 pm

Truant wrote:like the opinion of the vatican amounts to anything.

It's a ploy to get attention away from the paedophile priests being smuggled to different dioces.

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » December 17, 2003, 10:51 pm

I dunno - it's iffy. I see the Vatican's point on one hand, and on the other, I don't think he's being treated particularly badly.

The problem, as I understand it, is that to show him on national and international television being subjected to medical examinations is a violation of the Geneva Convention resolution regarding treatment of POWs.

Doesn't seem that harmful to me, but then we were moaning rather loudly when Al-Jazeera aired images of our POWs being examined. Seems disingenious to expect others to abide by something, and then not expect any sort of reaction when we don't do the same.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 17, 2003, 11:12 pm

the vatican has a long and storied history of cowing to despotic dictators and evil governments.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » December 18, 2003, 12:45 am

kyoukan wrote:the vatican has a long and storied history of cowing to despotic dictators and evil governments.

"good and evil" died off a long, long time ago

Post by **Sylvus** » December 18, 2003, 1:17 pm

Arundel Pajo wrote:Doesn't seem that harmful to me, but then we were moaning rather loudly when Al-Jazeera aired images of our POWs being examined. Seems disingenious to expect others to abide by something, and then not expect any sort of reaction when we don't do the same.

I thought we were moaning when they were showing the corpses of our people that were killed in action?

miir · Post by **miir** » December 18, 2003, 1:42 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Arundel Pajo wrote:Doesn't seem that harmful to me, but then we were moaning rather loudly when Al-Jazeera aired images of our POWs being examined. Seems disingenious to expect others to abide by something, and then not expect any sort of reaction when we don't do the same.
I thought we were moaning when they were showing the corpses of our people that were killed in action?

What country does Al-Jazeera represent?
What nation owns and runs Al-Jazeera?
Since when do independant media outlets have to abide by and be subject to compliance with the Geneva Convention?

The Vatican isn't slamming CNN for showing the images, they are slamming the US government for releasing them to the media.

While I don't agree with the Vatican's point of view, I can understand and respect it.

Arundel Pajo · Post by **Arundel Pajo** » December 18, 2003, 2:25 pm

...and where did Al-Jazeera get their images? I doubt there were reporters on location. Perhaps I should have been more specific in my wording.

edit:

Miir wrote:While I don't agree with the Vatican's point of view, I can understand and respect it.

This is essentially all I was saying.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 18, 2003, 4:46 pm

Arundel Pajo wrote:I dunno - it's iffy. I see the Vatican's point on one hand, and on the other, I don't think he's being treated particularly badly.

The problem, as I understand it, is that to show him on national and international television being subjected to medical examinations is a violation of the Geneva Convention resolution regarding treatment of POWs.

Doesn't seem that harmful to me, but then we were moaning rather loudly when Al-Jazeera aired images of our POWs being examined. Seems disingenious to expect others to abide by something, and then not expect any sort of reaction when we don't do the same.

The original footage showed Saddam getting a body cavity search.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » December 18, 2003, 6:30 pm

The original footage showed Saddam getting a body cavity search.

um,

They were looking for weapons of ass destruction?

/ducks

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 18, 2003, 7:19 pm

Burke wrote:
The original footage showed Saddam getting a body cavity search.
um,

They were looking for weapons of ass destruction?

/ducks

Captain Koons: The way Saddam looked at it, these weapons was your birthright. He'd be damned if any of the american pigs were gonna get their greasy hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something: his ass. Five long years, he wore these weapons up his ass.

Salis · Post by **Salis** » December 20, 2003, 3:45 am

Fucking awesome, I hope he burns in hell.

a) WMD?

b) Bush administration

Lets not gloss over a fuckup with a fuckup.