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Against better judgement, I'm going to attempt to use reason and logic with you again.
Cartalas wrote:I can not belive you posted this and to say that is not racist.

"I will agree with the statement that of the hostility she shows, a good portion of it is toward conservative, middle-class white males. I don't attribute that behavior to a racist, but more to a liberal."
Conservative, middle-class white males are not a race. Read that two or three times and then continue on. Go slow, get help from a nearby adult if you need help sounding out any of the words. Conservative, middle-class white males are a subset of a race, coincidentally enough the same race that Kyoukan belongs to. I don't have the capacity to remember each and every post ever made by all people on this board, so I'll defy you to find me a post where she makes any blanket statement regarding all white people. While you're searching and scratching your head (as if you'll actually even read this whole post, who am I trying to kid?) I'll continue. Do you know whose views are pretty much diametrically opposed to the views of the conservatives? I do. It's the liberals! Fancy that, it fits pretty much in-line with what I said before.
So from now on all my hostility is towards whitewomen who date black men but its not racist ok.

Jesus christ are you really that stupid.
The above statement is pretty mind-boggling to me. Why do you have hostility toward white women who date black men? I think you're going for one of two angles here, but there's a very good chance I'm overestimating you again. The first would be that you're trying to justify why you don't like Kyoukan. I'm not sure why you would need to justify that, it's fairly obvious and I don't think anyone would accuse you of being sexist or racist for not liking her. Much like the conservatives and liberals have different things that they value, and can often dislike the other group for not having the same values, it's perfectly reasonable for you to not like Kyoukan. I'm thinking you aren't going with that one. The second angle could be that you are a racist bigot, and that you're trying to make a statement on interracial couples. I'm more inclined to believe that one, but you'll have to clear it up for me. Are you just stupid, or are you a racist bigot in addition to being stupid?

Now, if you are capable, I'd be more than happy to attempt to engage in a debate with you. Barring that, I'd ask you to refrain from making some sort of a "witty" (I'm going to need a pair of fucking suspenders to keep that loosely-used term from falling down) one-line retort that nobody, probably not even yourself, will actually find funny.
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Atokal wrote:Sylvus, here is something for you to try and rationalize. Would it be ok for me to call a black person a nigger if I didn't mean it in a derogatory manner. Lets say I think nigger means a black person who commits a crime. Under Kyoukans rules as long as the person is perceived to be guilty of another form of bad behaviour (ie. A Racist) it is ok to pull out the racial slurs.
If you were a black person, and didn't agree with some of the negative behaviors of some subset of your race, I certainly wouldn't begrudge you for using the word nigger to describe that subset. In fact, there is a famous comedian named Chris Rock who has a pretty funny stand up comedy routine dealing with just that issue. You should check him out sometime, his biting wit and insightful social commentary are quite funny.
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I don't like to think of myself as liberal as much as just not conservative. 8)
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3 pages of this back and forth bullshit, and all I got out of it was; Kyou likes the dark meat?

Oh yeah, I'm a burn in hell now.
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once you've had black you never go back 8)
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Sylvus wrote: Conservative, middle-class white males are not a race.
I would agree if you remove the word WHITE.

Conservative, middle-class males are not a race.
Keverian FireCry wrote:You are a dumbshit Atokal. SHE IS USING IT IN THIS WAY:

poor white person of the rural, especially southeast United States

You guys can't clearly see the difference because you are ignorant little shits and you just want to spit on kyo as much as you can.
You fucking retard, you ignorant asswipe, you dumbass ... A FUCKING DEROGATORY WORD SPECIFIC TO A RACE OF PEOPLE IS A FUCKING RACIST COMMENT.

Does that defination say poor person no it says poor WHITE PERSON.

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From reading this ignorant diatribe I'm about to puke if people can't just let well enough alone.

What is say is often relative to the context we say it in so the dictionary stuff if worthless IMHO. Does it seem that Kyou seem to have some unconscious axe to grind against people who believe different from her? I think we would have to all agree... Yes. Can you tell me why she feels that way? can you tell me why feel the way I do?

BUT BUT BUT... this isn't a bash Kyou post. The exact same thing goes for 90% of the people who post in the current events forum often. We DISAGREE, maybe a lot, maybe a little but it's the discussion that is important. It also seem like their are some people who just want to target Kyoukan everytime she posts, WTF is your deal? Yes we all know you disagree with her but post something meaningful for the rest of us to think about rather than a flurry of curse words because you fall on the other side of the bell curve. GROW UP, this isn't Jr. High school. If you can't argue without taking it personally then don't argue and walk away. That is a lession that you should have learned a long time ago.

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uhm... so.... Those statistics and stuff that I got... Forget it.. this is much more entertaining and it's a moot point now.

But, for the record, I consider Cracker to be a racist comment, just the same as nigger, chink, spick, camel jockey, dago, wop, mic or any other crudely stereotypical words that get passed around like salt at a table.

It really matters to me less the context of the usage of the word than the fact that it was used as an adjective. Regardless of which of those words you choose, if used to describe a person or race of people, it's a racist remark. While Kyou may not have intended to use the remark to encompass the scope of the white race, it's usage alone, in my opinion, constitues a racist remark.

I'll grant the point that Cracker hold much less weight as a racist remark as nigger, chink, nip or spick. However, I'm of the school of thought that says even though white people, in general, were the most oppressive and racist race in the history of man, that in no way justifies the counterevolution of the species to allow for racism against whites purely for the purposes of revenge. It's no less racist for a white man to call a black man a nigger than it is for a black man to call a white man a cracker.
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I can debate about current events with out getting in a flaminfest over who hates france or who sucks Dubbas cock.


Its when everything is pinned on Cracker white middle class males, it gets old. Every single "backing" of her posts about whats wrong in this world and whos doing it. Its the white middle class males, who are also white trash. White trash is a racist comment,along with cracker. She also calls 90% of the people here white trash. Its like a black man calling another a Uncle Tom. Its uncalled for, and so fucking narrow minded its not even funny.


Thats the issue. Thats the problem. You can defend on why you call people that. By all means, a few people defend the use of cracker or so. So cart calling her boyfriend a nigger is ok also. Dont use double standards, and cry your little head off when someone steps on your toes, when you do the same.


Now useing the words Dumbfuck, and retard are all non racist names. Since its not directed at one race. Makes me laugh when you can defend someone non stop calling people white trash, or cracker. Maybe your tounge is too far up her ass, or you just never learned any better.

Saying your white doesnt mean anything and can call people crackers or whatever floats your boat. White people can hate the white race just as much as blacks can. And seeing how you are with a black man, I can see why you hate whites so much. He's prolly is the main focus on why you hate white people.
People can do shitty things, white, blacks, chinese and so forth. It happens to everyone. But hateing a race and go down to the level of name calling shows how weak of a person you are. Doing it constantly is what bothers me. Joking around and saying your a crazy cracker...I can take that in jest. I cant even see a reason to use "middle class crackers" to accuse "us" of all the wrongs in the world and do it constantly.


Oh and on topic. I dont believe in people having to wait or such to come to this country. It was built on people comming here in freedom and having it. So if they want to come, either have in place a law if you want to come here, or retune the labor laws and a whole can of worms to allow equal employment and other stuff the state/country does.

You can make haveing a job already lined up to become a citizen of the USA. I beileve Australia sp? has this law for people outside the country that wish to gain Entrence/Citizenship.Some minor stuff like that can go a long ways to help this country be better. Not to mention the fucked up taxes. Lets take a look at why things arnt working, not turning a blind eye to it and blaming people swimming/running for the boarder to gain a better life here.
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all you fucking crackers can kiss my ass.
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Marbus wrote:From reading this ignorant diatribe I'm about to puke if people can't just let well enough alone.

What is say is often relative to the context we say it in so the dictionary stuff if worthless IMHO. Does it seem that Kyou seem to have some unconscious axe to grind against people who believe different from her? I think we would have to all agree... Yes. Can you tell me why she feels that way? can you tell me why feel the way I do?

BUT BUT BUT... this isn't a bash Kyou post. The exact same thing goes for 90% of the people who post in the current events forum often. We DISAGREE, maybe a lot, maybe a little but it's the discussion that is important. It also seem like their are some people who just want to target Kyoukan everytime she posts, WTF is your deal? Yes we all know you disagree with her but post something meaningful for the rest of us to think about rather than a flurry of curse words because you fall on the other side of the bell curve. GROW UP, this isn't Jr. High school. If you can't argue without taking it personally then don't argue and walk away. That is a lession that you should have learned a long time ago.

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Marb, although your post was indeed well written, you don't know the history of Kyoukan from the old boards and how her particular brand of hatred made the migration to these boards. I have been witness to her caustic, rude and ignorant posts for quite some time.

I stick to one individual who really pisses me off, the train goes off the tracks when people such as yourself want to defend her, and using the same brush begin to paint others here as STUPID or IGNORANT because she is called out for that self same hatred and that she professes to be against.

Many try to participate in the Current events section without flaming, only to be flamed by Kyoukan and her followers. I personally think the CE section should be FF. General section is where all the flaming should be. However you might as well post about netiquette, 8) because it is not likely that this section will ever be FF.

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you fucking stupid tard. you instigate twice as much shit as I do. every post you make you're "calling the man out" and raging against all the bullies while you imagine yourself a hero to the socially inept.

I am the current events forum; you're just a worthless fucking troll that hasn't had a poignant or even mildly intelligent thing to say once on this entire forum.

I wish you were not so goddam stupid that you would realize that I think I have acknowledged your existence about 5 times in my entire life, where fully 80% of your posts are completely about me and probably at least 95% of them mention my name. you're so goddam obsessed with me that frankly its getting a little creepy. if I wasn't totally confident in the fact that you're a spineless little fucktard who's ass I could kick I would probably get a restraining order put on you. but your brainless little rages seem to be about as impotent as your reproductive system probably is, and you most likely haven't left the house in a few years.
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This shit is really funny. Can a person be racist against their own race? hmmm. I guess it is possible. I've never heard or seen such a thing though.


I think cracker is a racist comment, but it carries no weight whatsoever when a white person uses it to insult another white person. It's the same as two blacks calling each other nigger, no weight. If it carried a racist connotation, then the person using the term would be slamming themselves as well. Kinda loses its potency.

Kyou used a racist term but that doesn't make her a racist. I dislike conservative white males too, but I'm not racist, I'm just smart. So is she.
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clayton bigsby the black white surprimisist needs to visit this thread
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kyoukan wrote:
I am the current events forum; you're just a worthless fucking troll that hasn't had a poignant or even mildly intelligent thing to say once on this entire forum.

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I AM GOD, I AM A RACIST, I AM A SLAVE OWNER (fiancee rofl) I AM THE CURRENT EVENTS FORUM. AND OMG I COULD KICK YOUR ASS IRL.

This from the cow that went ballistic what Cartalas said he would bitch slap you. Are you conflicted Kyoukan, still off the meds I see. By the way how is that ever so important girl friday job you work at dropping off the bank deposits with the bosses porsche?

You are deluded, rude and childish. 8)
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I said I was done with this thread, I am staying on topic though and avoiding the tangent that I allowed myself to slide into earlier.

Terminator actually taking a stand on a serious issue by saying he will fight the California law that will grant Drivers licenses to illegals. I still dont have my mind made up about Arnold, but this makes deciding a bit more saucy.

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Sylvus wrote:Against better judgement, I'm going to attempt to use reason and logic with you again.
Cartalas wrote:I can not belive you posted this and to say that is not racist.

"I will agree with the statement that of the hostility she shows, a good portion of it is toward conservative, middle-class white males. I don't attribute that behavior to a racist, but more to a liberal."
Conservative, middle-class white males are not a race. Read that two or three times and then continue on. Go slow, get help from a nearby adult if you need help sounding out any of the words. Conservative, middle-class white males are a subset of a race, coincidentally enough the same race that Kyoukan belongs to. I don't have the capacity to remember each and every post ever made by all people on this board, so I'll defy you to find me a post where she makes any blanket statement regarding all white people. While you're searching and scratching your head (as if you'll actually even read this whole post, who am I trying to kid?) I'll continue. Do you know whose views are pretty much diametrically opposed to the views of the conservatives? I do. It's the liberals! Fancy that, it fits pretty much in-line with what I said before.
So from now on all my hostility is towards whitewomen who date black men but its not racist ok.

Jesus christ are you really that stupid.
The above statement is pretty mind-boggling to me. Why do you have hostility toward white women who date black men? I think you're going for one of two angles here, but there's a very good chance I'm overestimating you again. The first would be that you're trying to justify why you don't like Kyoukan. I'm not sure why you would need to justify that, it's fairly obvious and I don't think anyone would accuse you of being sexist or racist for not liking her. Much like the conservatives and liberals have different things that they value, and can often dislike the other group for not having the same values, it's perfectly reasonable for you to not like Kyoukan. I'm thinking you aren't going with that one. The second angle could be that you are a racist bigot, and that you're trying to make a statement on interracial couples. I'm more inclined to believe that one, but you'll have to clear it up for me. Are you just stupid, or are you a racist bigot in addition to being stupid?

Now, if you are capable, I'd be more than happy to attempt to engage in a debate with you. Barring that, I'd ask you to refrain from making some sort of a "witty" (I'm going to need a pair of fucking suspenders to keep that loosely-used term from falling down) one-line retort that nobody, probably not even yourself, will actually find funny.
Way to take my quote out of context Dumb Ass!


My quote was a analogy of your dumb ass reason why cracker was not a racial term.

But I will go real slow for the Rent-A-Mod here.

You said Cracker does not define all the white race just poor southern whites. Now are you following or do I need to slow down here.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Ok you caught up yet?

So if you can use Cracker to define Poor southern whites ( Ill stop here so you can catch up again)...................................................................................................................................................... Then someone can place the nigger label on a section of the black population now matter if he or she is poor,rich,inner city,southern or married to a white women.



Now on me having a problem with Kyoukan dating a black man All I can say is nice try!! I dont care if Kyoukan bends over and takes it from the whole black race starting with Al Sharpton and ending Colin Powell I dont care if she throws in a few whites,Chinese,mexicans and small farm animals. As long as that cess pool of flesh is taken and has no chance of fucking up anyone elses life.


So please spin it anyway you want I might have racist tendencies which I myself have to work out.

Kyoukan has proved time and time again she is a racist, what is sad is she cant admit it or wont admit it.


Sylvus you sir are a moron which im sorry can not be cured.
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I stand by my claim that people just have a hardon to prove her wrong.

No, I have a hardon to see standards applied fairly across the board. What I refuse to accept is that racial slurs against one group are OK and not another.



I don't give two shits whether your pet word is nigger or cracker. Using such terms on a regular basis to deride someone because of the color of their fucking skin has got to be one of the stupidest wastes of time one could possibly engage in.

Yeh, let's write off the next Einstein because he takes a tan better than some of us. :roll:
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Cartalas wrote:Way to take my quote out of context Dumb Ass!
How exactly was that quote, which was your post in it's entirety, out of context?
My quote was a analogy of your dumb ass reason why cracker was not a racial term.
Nowhere do I claim that cracker is not a racial term. I have been saying that it was not used with racist motivations. I really wish that you could comprehend anything that I write.
But I will go real slow for the Rent-A-Mod here.

You said Cracker does not define all the white race just poor southern whites. Now are you following or do I need to slow down here.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Ok you caught up yet?

So if you can use Cracker to define Poor southern whites ( Ill stop here so you can catch up again)...................................................................................................................................................... Then someone can place the nigger label on a section of the black population now matter if he or she is poor,rich,inner city,southern or married to a white women.
Actually, if you were able to read, you'd never see me mention anything about poor southern whites. Just as I suspected, you were incapable of reading and comprehending anything that I wrote. Well, I can't say you missed all of it, you did try to turn around my "read it slow" comments in your typical "I know you are but what am I" fashion. How did you miss the rest?
So please spin it anyway you want I might have racist tendencies which I myself have to work out.
Sweet. That's a good portion of the point I was trying to make, thanks.
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"Quote:
So please spin it anyway you want I might have racist tendencies which I myself have to work out.


Sweet. That's a good portion of the point I was trying to make, thanks."

I see you did it again You sir are the king of missinformation.


Take what you want out of someones quote why dont you post the rest oh I know because it goes against your little fnord Hoe.

I really dont care how the fuck the little racist slut uses the word Cracker I just gave you a example of why it does not matter how she uses it it is still a racist term.


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Sylvus wrote:
Nowhere do I claim that cracker is not a racial term. I have been saying that it was not used with racist motivations. I really wish that you could comprehend anything that I write.
So now you are the amazing Kreskin and know the motivations of Kyoukan?

Go punch in these words on the search with Kyoukan as the author.

Cracker, White, Middle, Elite. Check the results. If you can say after reading some of that shit that her motivations were anything but hate directed at White people you are deluded.

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Here is something to think about in the cracker discussion...

I have heard people say, I don't care if someone calls me a Cracker. Xou even posted that and I feel 100% the say way. Why? Because we have the power.

Yes Yes, I will also agree than White Males have been beat and attached by every minority group over the past 30 years but if you look at the power base it's still white males. Sometimes I feel like I as an individual have no rights anymore, everyone seems in a "protected" group but me. But then I have to realize that in most cases, white males are the ones in power and IN GENERAL (not all the time) people tend to hire, like, promote those who are most like themselves.

I had a long post last night which I deleted where I told of my old gang kids when I was a social worker / counselor. But I'm going to repost to make my point. One night while out eating with a bunch of the kids my supervisor, who was black, noticed that everyone still used the word "nigger" even though I (about as pale as can be) was still there. He pointed out to some of our kids that in his experience black people didn't call each other nigger when white people were around. All my kids responded that it was because I wasn't white, I was a nigger as well. This of course made me really proud. I had worked hard to make a good connection and although grades were better, juvi as down I didn't know until then if they really trusted me. My point of tell this is that while they called me that, to the amazement of people at the BBQ place sometimes, I didn't use the word. Why? because IMHO, even though they were comfortable with it, to me when a white person uses that term it's demeaning. Is it right that race should have a basis on what we say? well... yes I think so.

A teacher years ago told me "set the example, don't be the example." I think it's a pretty good rule. Whether that posting on a message board or yelling out to a bunch of friends.

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Cartalas wrote:I see you did it again You sir are the king of missinformation.
How is that misinformation? Did you not say that you had issues with racism that you needed to work on?
Atokal wrote:So now you are the amazing Kreskin and know the motivations of Kyoukan?
No, but with the help of LaVar Burton and Reading Rainbow, I learned how to read and comprehend the posts that have been made in this thread. I suggest you do the same, check your local PBS listings.

An honest question here, have you read any of the posts I've made or have you only skimmed them and not understood what I wrote? My point of contention has been that hostility shown toward white men who are elite or middle class does not equal racism. Call it liberalism or whatever the opposite of elitism would be, it's not racism. IT ISN'T BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ANOTHER CHARACTERISTIC THEY SHARE.

I hate the stupid. All of them. I hate stupid white people, I hate stupid black people, I hate stupid Asian and Indian people. I hate stupid women, stupid men, stupid homosexuals. I hate Cartalas. Now, if I were only referring one set of those, say stupid white people OR stupid women OR stupid homosexuals, would that make me racist or sexist or homophobic? If you honestly think so, then you're one a member of one of those groups and I don't care for you either.
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Krimson Klaw wrote:I said I was done with this thread, I am staying on topic though and avoiding the tangent that I allowed myself to slide into earlier.

Terminator actually taking a stand on a serious issue by saying he will fight the California law that will grant Drivers licenses to illegals. I still dont have my mind made up about Arnold, but this makes deciding a bit more saucy.

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jht ... ID=3390806
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Is that really why he did not attend? If so, well, hmm, that can be considered dodging, or a guy knowing he sucks at shooting from the hip debates and decided to stay out as it could only go poorly for him. I just don't know which, but I am glad you brought that up.
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Sylvus wrote:
Cartalas wrote:I see you did it again You sir are the king of missinformation.
How is that misinformation? Did you not say that you had issues with racism that you needed to work on?
Atokal wrote:So now you are the amazing Kreskin and know the motivations of Kyoukan?
No, but with the help of LaVar Burton and Reading Rainbow, I learned how to read and comprehend the posts that have been made in this thread. I suggest you do the same, check your local PBS listings.

An honest question here, have you read any of the posts I've made or have you only skimmed them and not understood what I wrote? My point of contention has been that hostility shown toward white men who are elite or middle class does not equal racism. Call it liberalism or whatever the opposite of elitism would be, it's not racism. IT ISN'T BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ANOTHER CHARACTERISTIC THEY SHARE.

I hate the stupid. All of them. I hate stupid white people, I hate stupid black people, I hate stupid Asian and Indian people. I hate stupid women, stupid men, stupid homosexuals. I hate Cartalas. Now, if I were only referring one set of those, say stupid white people OR stupid women OR stupid homosexuals, would that make me racist or sexist or homophobic? If you honestly think so, then you're one a member of one of those groups and I don't care for you either.
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Which one sounds more racist?

I hate stupid people or I hate stupid white people
I hate rappers or I hate Black rappers
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Sylvus,
I am sure you are able to comprehend this train of thought.

Kyoukan bashes White Males under the auspices of Liberalism. Problem occurs when Racist terms are thrown into the mix. All it did for anyone with a brain is clarify the hatred she feels towards the White Man is not based in Liberal vs Conservative. It cannot be because she uses the term White and Cracker. Defining her angst on a group of individuals based upon RACE not political or economic standing. You are blowing smoke up your own ass to not recognize the hate she feels towards the white man.

BTW I would like to see the evidence on Kylere that marks him a racist. Since Kyoukan said she only uses that term on people she perceives as being racist. For that matter show me a post of Fallanthas that marks him a racist. Proof man show me proof of your weak assed argument.

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Atokal, woof wooooof, wooof woof woof. Grrrr, woof, wooof woooof woof. grrrrrr. wooof woof wooooooooof woof grr. Woof woof woooof? wooof grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr woof woof.



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careful xyun you'll get him all horny.
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...wait are you SERIOUSLY trying to pull off calling a white person a racist for calling another white person a cracker? dude that is a new level of fucking baad

you do realize those rappers like jay z and ja rule, or whichever ones hate eachother rap about the other one in there songs with lyrics like
"that stupid nigger think he bust out mo rhymes, but that stupud nigga only got 3 cars, iw ish i could shoot up that dumbass nigga and teach em east side niggas a lesson"
does that make Jay-Z or Ja rule or whoever else that does that a racist against black people? if you think that for a second thats just fucking sad
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I personally like Chris Rock's take on the whole nigger issue.. there's african americans, blacks, people of colour or whatever you want to be called this week, then there's niggers.

My sister-in-law is from 'bama and she assures me they have niggers of all colours, it's not so much about race as it is about attitude and life style.

The same goes for crackers.

The thing is people get upset being called either name because a) they know it applies, or b) they know it doesn't. Either way, reacting strongly is just further encouragement for people to go on using it as an easy way to piss you off, spewing forth a stream of bile sure as shit won't make them stop...
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Post by Sueven »

Cracker is a racist term.

The statements that Kyoukan made are racist statements.

The question is whether or not that makes Kyoukan a racist. The arguments above should pretty much cover that.
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Peanut gallery left says: "Cracker" infers race. A white person calling another white person "cracker" doesn't automatically make him/her a racist. To suggest that it does is ridiculous and barely worthy of comment, much less a three page post.

IMO this thread is about personal dislikes for Kyoukan and not really about racism at all. Kyou has mercilessly challenged enough people here, often embarassing them, that a lot of people seem pretty keen on returning the favor in spades. Unfortunately for them, this issue won't support it.

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Mplor wrote:Peanut gallery left says: "Cracker" infers race. A white person calling another white person "cracker" doesn't automatically make him/her a racist. To suggest that it does is ridiculous and barely worthy of comment, much less a three page post.

IMO this thread is about personal dislikes for Kyoukan and not really about racism at all. Kyou has mercilessly challenged enough people here, often embarassing them, that a lot of people seem pretty keen on returning the favor in spades. Unfortunately for them, this issue won't support it.

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The topic does support it. Kyoukan calls people out for using racist terms barely missing an opportunity. For someone to then use racist terms in a malicious manner makes them not only a hypocrite but also a racist. I would love to see her go into the back country of Louisiana or Georgia and call someone a Cracker and see if they find it offensive.

Btw more often than not Kyoukan only embarrasses herself.
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Motherfucker just shut the fuck up. Please for the love of god SHUT THE FUCK UP. What the fuck is it with you? I wish that somehow I could force a glimpse of reality into the rotting prison that is your mind. Just once. So that you could see what an annoying obsessive illogical excuse for a fucking human being you are.
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Atokal wrote:I would love to see her go into the back country of Louisiana or Georgia and call someone a Cracker and see if they find it offensive.
They would wonder why a white person would use that term, then probably laugh, or be more or less confused for an overly long amount of time. Or were you thinking they would hang her high with the rebel flag raised higher all to the subtle tunes of the "Dukes of Hazzard" theme?
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they would say

bitch i ain't no cracker!
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kyoukan wrote:they would say

bitch i ain't no cracker!
Actually.. I think that in phonetic terms it would be closer to....

Beeitch, ah aint'n no cracka!
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Zamtuk wrote:
Atokal wrote:I would love to see her go into the back country of Louisiana or Georgia and call someone a Cracker and see if they find it offensive.
They would wonder why a white person would use that term, then probably laugh, or be more or less confused for an overly long amount of time. Or were you thinking they would hang her high with the rebel flag raised higher all to the subtle tunes of the "Dukes of Hazzard" theme?
Not if she showed up with her fiancee
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Xyun wrote:Motherfucker just shut the fuck up. Please for the love of god SHUT THE FUCK UP. What the fuck is it with you? I wish that somehow I could force a glimpse of reality into the rotting prison that is your mind. Just once. So that you could see what an annoying obsessive illogical excuse for a fucking human being you are.
Xyun oddly enough you inspire these same feelings in everyone on the board so take your own advice lad. :D
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wow, you gave me a dose of my own medicine. :vv_stupid:
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Xyun wrote:wow, you gave me a dose of my own medicine. :vv_stupid:
Consider the following, which actually preceeded your above comment.
Xyun wrote:Atokal, woof wooooof, wooof woof woof. Grrrr, woof, wooof woooof woof. grrrrrr. wooof woof wooooooooof woof grr. Woof woof woooof? wooof grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr woof woof.
grrrr.
Yep, call me out on the same shit you perpetrate. Well done dumbass.

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