RIAA gets the finger..
Damn Truant I can read, you seem to be unable to get the subfuckingtext of anything however.
Kyoukan could give a fuck less, she just wants to argue, if someone posted about how great the RIAA was protecting artists she would argue that they protect companies not artists. She will argue for or against anything depending on which way she feels at that moment or who is involved regardless of her personal beliefs or actions. Kyoukan is a troll, merely a troll.
Kyoukan could give a fuck less, she just wants to argue, if someone posted about how great the RIAA was protecting artists she would argue that they protect companies not artists. She will argue for or against anything depending on which way she feels at that moment or who is involved regardless of her personal beliefs or actions. Kyoukan is a troll, merely a troll.
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kylere likes to think of all women as whores, because it increases the chances of his fat ass actually getting laid.Sylvus wrote:When you're launching a personal crusade against someone, having your facts straight only strengthens your position. Of course, it could just be that saying words like "whore" makes you giggle. If that's the case, by all means, carry on.
I haven't been to a drive-in in ages but I'm pretty sure they use a radio frequency now. No more walkie-talkie on the window.
I'm kind of pissed that they all closed shop. If anything, it would be something different to do.
As far as mp3's go, record stores could make a killing. If people are really walking around w/ mp3 players all over the place they should just set up an option to buy the single at a demo booth or something. You like the demo, you plug your unit in and dl the full version, swipe you MAC card, and be gone. Bring the whole "impulse purchase" to music again.
I'm kind of pissed that they all closed shop. If anything, it would be something different to do.
As far as mp3's go, record stores could make a killing. If people are really walking around w/ mp3 players all over the place they should just set up an option to buy the single at a demo booth or something. You like the demo, you plug your unit in and dl the full version, swipe you MAC card, and be gone. Bring the whole "impulse purchase" to music again.
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Yes, all sound now comes through your car stereo, which is awsome. Coldwater, MI has a very nice drive-in theater that plays 2 movies on 2 screens. They start at dusk and always play 2 movies per night. It costs $12 per car load, and that gets you 2 movies per screen. It's a great time. Definately a nice change from indoors and brings back a lot of good memories from my childhood.I haven't been to a drive-in in ages but I'm pretty sure they use a radio frequency now. No more walkie-talkie on the window.
I'm kind of pissed that they all closed shop. If anything, it would be something different to do.
My ass was once fat, now it is not. I can improve myself, how about some of the other VV'ers doing the same?
But seriously, the RIAA is gonna sue, Once broadband becomes more prevalent or someone cooks up a decent audio/video compression codec that lets people drop standard movies at decent resolution to under 500 megs then it will be the next big issue.
Oh yeah, you know that subpoena list the RIAA is using, you can bet there is some clerk at a company provided for by the Movie companies who has one job, collecting names and data of people pirating movies for THEIR first wave of attacks.
For those seeking a clue, Pirating on one hand, then calling others out for doing it regardless of how they said it, is hypocrisy.
But seriously, the RIAA is gonna sue, Once broadband becomes more prevalent or someone cooks up a decent audio/video compression codec that lets people drop standard movies at decent resolution to under 500 megs then it will be the next big issue.
Oh yeah, you know that subpoena list the RIAA is using, you can bet there is some clerk at a company provided for by the Movie companies who has one job, collecting names and data of people pirating movies for THEIR first wave of attacks.
For those seeking a clue, Pirating on one hand, then calling others out for doing it regardless of how they said it, is hypocrisy.
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Unless they have a NASCAR style pit crew that runs up and aligns a 7.1 speaker setup around my car, brings me popcorn and a Coke, and sweeps up the crumbs before I leave, I see no reason to ever go to one again.Fairweather Pure wrote:I'll take a wild guess here and assume you haven't been to a drive-in movie in a decade or two.Drive-ins absolutely suck. Mono sound, yay.
You stupid fuck, for the last fucking time...Kylere wrote:For those seeking a clue, Pirating on one hand, then calling others out for doing it regardless of how they said it, is hypocrisy.
KYOUKAN IS NOT CRITICIZING THOSE WHO PIRATE. SHE IS CRITICIZING THOSE WHO HAVE HALF - BAKED, LAME - BRAINED, FALSE JUSTIFICATIONS.
The issue is not piracy...the issue is excuses.
and you have the GALL to say *I* need a clue.
_edit_ and further more...the RIAA has nothing to do with movies. RIAA - RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA. RIAA deals only with music. The MPAA is it's movie equivalent.
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Your inability to admit you have no idea wtf you're talking about is only surpassed by your ability to talk out of your ass.Unless they have a NASCAR style pit crew that runs up and aligns a 7.1 speaker setup around my car, brings me popcorn and a Coke, and sweeps up the crumbs before I leave, I see no reason to ever go to one again.
I never said the RIAA dealt with movies, try reading comprehension 101. Now on to the subject, when two crooks are sitting in their cells and one is whining that he only stole because it was so easy and the other is lambasting him for making excuses, they both still have one thing in common....THEY ARE CROOKS.Truant wrote:You stupid fuck, for the last fucking time...Kylere wrote:For those seeking a clue, Pirating on one hand, then calling others out for doing it regardless of how they said it, is hypocrisy.
KYOUKAN IS NOT CRITICIZING THOSE WHO PIRATE. SHE IS CRITICIZING THOSE WHO HAVE HALF - BAKED, LAME - BRAINED, FALSE JUSTIFICATIONS.
The issue is not piracy...the issue is excuses.
and you have the GALL to say *I* need a clue.
_edit_ and further more...the RIAA has nothing to do with movies. RIAA - RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA. RIAA deals only with music. The MPAA is it's movie equivalent.
So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief I could really care less what you think, she is a hypocrite.
So yes, YOU NEED A CLUE!
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I'm gonna be honest...I'm really not sure what you said here, I think it's english, but it's pretty hard to make sense of. Are you saying that the RIAA is giving the MPAA a subpoena list...or that the MPAA is making a list that looks just like the RIAA's. Don't attack my reading comprehension. I made the most sense I could of it...and it apparently wasn't what you meant to say...so please clarify.Kylere wrote:Oh yeah, you know that subpoena list the RIAA is using, you can bet there is some clerk at a company provided for by the Movie companies who has one job, collecting names and data of people pirating movies for THEIR first wave of attacks.
http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... hlight=mp3Kylere wrote:So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief I could really care less what you think, she is a hypocrite.
guess that means you too, huh?

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Eat a dick, little starfish.Fairweather Pure wrote:Your inability to admit you have no idea wtf you're talking about is only surpassed by your ability to talk out of your ass.Unless they have a NASCAR style pit crew that runs up and aligns a 7.1 speaker setup around my car, brings me popcorn and a Coke, and sweeps up the crumbs before I leave, I see no reason to ever go to one again.
Nostalgia may substitute for surround sound in your tiny world, but it doesn't for me. I would rather go a comfy theatre with true surround sound, have snacks that I don't have to clean up afterwards, and enjoy air conditioning without keeping my car idling for 3 hours.
Gee, it sounds like I know exactly what I'm talking about. Unless you're an NBA supastar with a Lincoln Navigator so tricked out it actually HAS 7.1 audio, in which case, not only will I retract my statement, I will eat my own ass.
Movie theatre sound has fallen quite behind compared to what you can set up in a home system. The quailty of the speakers, plus the sheer volume of air that is required to be pushed to fill that room tends to lead to a pretty sub par sound compared to some of home setups.masteen wrote:Nostalgia may substitute for surround sound in your tiny world, but it doesn't for me. I would rather go a comfy theatre with true surround sound, have snacks that I don't have to clean up afterwards, and enjoy air conditioning without keeping my car idling for 3 hours.
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hypocriteKylere wrote: So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief I could really care less what you think, she is a hypocrite.
So yes, YOU NEED A CLUE!
\Hyp"o*crite\, n. [F., fr. L. hypocrita, Gr. ? one who plays a part on the stage, a dissembler, feigner. See Hypocrisy.] One who plays a part; especially, one who, for the purpose of winning approbation of favor, puts on a fair outside seeming; one who feigns to be other and better than he is; a false pretender to virtue or piety; one who simulates virtue or piety.
The hypocrite's hope shall perish. --Job viii. 13.
I dare swear he is no hypocrite, but prays from his heart. --Shak.
Syn: Deceiver; pretender; cheat. See Dissembler.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
hypocrite
n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that they do not hold [syn: dissembler, phony, phoney]
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
hypocrite
one who puts on a mask and feigns himself to be what he is not; a dissembler in
religion. Our Lord severely rebuked the scribes and Pharisees for their
hypocrisy (Matt. 6:2, 5, 16). "The hypocrite's hope shall perish" (Job 8:13).
The Hebrew word here rendered "hypocrite" rather means the "godless" or
"profane," as it is rendered in Jer. 23:11, i.e., polluted with crimes.
I don't see how your interpretation of a hypocrite falls into one of the above
First notice I said a clerk working for the Movie companies prepping for THEIR first round of attacks, I even CAPPED IT, I never said the RIAA was for movies, you just failed basic english.Truant wrote:I'm gonna be honest...I'm really not sure what you said here, I think it's english, but it's pretty hard to make sense of. Are you saying that the RIAA is giving the MPAA a subpoena list...or that the MPAA is making a list that looks just like the RIAA's. Don't attack my reading comprehension. I made the most sense I could of it...and it apparently wasn't what you meant to say...so please clarify.Kylere wrote:Oh yeah, you know that subpoena list the RIAA is using, you can bet there is some clerk at a company provided for by the Movie companies who has one job, collecting names and data of people pirating movies for THEIR first wave of attacks.
http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/view ... hlight=mp3Kylere wrote:So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief I could really care less what you think, she is a hypocrite.
guess that means you too, huh?
Yes I wrote the work, but notice I also said I was not thieving MP3's, I can write about suicide without killing myself, I can write about murder without killing, and I can write about MP3's without stealing. This is a concept that perhaps is above you.
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Your failure to comprehend without a roadmap and a guide is the fault of your teachers and correcting it is outside the scope of this message board.Skogen wrote:I don't see how your interpretation of a hypocrite falls into one of the above
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What, you are making up your own definitions now? You can come up with your own interpretations of a word that falls outside of its definition? Gee, why do we have dictionaries again?Kylere wrote:Your failure to comprehend without a roadmap and a guide is the fault of your teachers and correcting it is outside the scope of this message board.Skogen wrote:I don't see how your interpretation of a hypocrite falls into one of the above
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Masteen, you have not been to a drive-in in a long fucking time by your own admission. Your stupid comparisons mean nothing because you're basing your entire argument on guess work. I, on the other hand, was at a drive-in movie 2 weeks ago and can assure you that the sound, picture quality, and atmosphere is far superior to an indoor theater. Just the fact that you insist that you are right, when you are obviously completely misinformed and ignorant of modern drive-ins, is making you look like a fool. I suggest you learn what you're talking about before you start forming an opinion.Nostalgia may substitute for surround sound in your tiny world, but it doesn't for me. I would rather go a comfy theatre with true surround sound, have snacks that I don't have to clean up afterwards, and enjoy air conditioning without keeping my car idling for 3 hours.
You don't know, and you are wrong. End of story.
yeah 95 degree heat and eating mosquitos, not being able to hear shit, etc.Marbus wrote:I haven't been to a drive-in in a very long time, sounds like it would be fun.
Marb
anyways, i imagine in the north they may have modern drive-ins because in the summer it can be more mild. In the South, they pretty much stopped building them in the 60s i think.
i went to one in Jacksonville, FL a couple of years ago, don't think i'll repeat that fun

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So I take it they have a giant fucking climate controlled dome so you don't have to run your car's AC?Fairweather Pure wrote:Masteen, you have not been to a drive-in in a long fucking time by your own admission. Your stupid comparisons mean nothing because you're basing your entire argument on guess work. I, on the other hand, was at a drive-in movie 2 weeks ago and can assure you that the sound, picture quality, and atmosphere is far superior to an indoor theater. Just the fact that you insist that you are right, when you are obviously completely misinformed and ignorant of modern drive-ins, is making you look like a fool. I suggest you learn what you're talking about before you start forming an opinion.Nostalgia may substitute for surround sound in your tiny world, but it doesn't for me. I would rather go a comfy theatre with true surround sound, have snacks that I don't have to clean up afterwards, and enjoy air conditioning without keeping my car idling for 3 hours.
You don't know, and you are wrong. End of story.
I might believe that the drive-in is using the new HD FM, but even that does not contain surround information. So no matter what kind of Uber system you've stuck in your vehicle, it's not surround. If the movie sounds coming from your car stereo are better than what you get in a theatre, then your theatres suck, PERIOD.
Fair, I'm not arguing against your right to enjoy going there.
However, it's fucking pure stupidity on YOUR part to argue that an OUTDOOR venue that broadcasts the movie sound over the radio into whatever setup you have in your car will give superior sound and picture vs. an indoor, climate controlled, stadium seating, true Dolby 7.1 system theatre.
I stated outright that I couldn't understand your poorly written run on sentence. If that means I fail basic english, and I have no reading comprehension, then I guess we should restructure our school systems. I asked what you meant, plainly, and unconfrontationally...because I tried to make sense of that clusterfuck, and you made it clear that my translations from the unknown language into english were wrong.Kylere wrote:First notice I said a clerk working for the Movie companies prepping for THEIR first round of attacks, I even CAPPED IT, I never said the RIAA was for movies, you just failed basic english.
Why don't you scroll halfway down the thread, where you go on to explain that not only are you a pirate...but that you were doing it before anyone else, and in such quantities that you are proclaiming to be the captain....ARRRR MATEY.Kylere wrote:Yes I wrote the work, but notice I also said I was not thieving MP3's, I can write about suicide without killing myself, I can write about murder without killing, and I can write about MP3's without stealing. This is a concept that perhaps is above you.
Granted, you say you didn't download anything yourself. But you had a self - reported 16k songs on 6 harddrives that you distributed to your select group of friends. Which therefore makes you just as much a thief as anyone you are attacking on this thread. It doesn't matter if you owned the cd's, you distributed to those that didn't. You furthermore justfied your pirating, saying that you supported these artists by going to their concerts. I'd like to now direct you to your own line from this thread, with a slight alteration. ahem~
So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief [who is attacking the motivations of another thief] I could really care less what you think, [you] are a hypocrite.
So now we have to go to the lightning round. The question?
Who is more evil? The thief who makes use of stolen goods. Or the supplier who rips off the commercial product for distribution to the masses.
Please phrase your response in the form of a question. Thank you.
Never mind that shit. You can barely pull off the popcorn trick indoors, while outdoors it's hummers for everyonemasteen wrote:I might believe that the drive-in is using the new HD FM, but even that does not contain surround information. So no matter what kind of Uber system you've stuck in your vehicle, it's not surround. If the movie sounds coming from your car stereo are better than what you get in a theatre, then your theatres suck, PERIOD.
Fair, I'm not arguing against your right to enjoy going there.
However, it's fucking pure stupidity on YOUR part to argue that an OUTDOOR venue that broadcasts the movie sound over the radio into whatever setup you have in your car will give superior sound and picture vs. an indoor, climate controlled, stadium seating, true Dolby 7.1 system theatre.
I owned them and shared them in a responsible manner like that of cassette making, I considered Napster once briefly but the fact that trying to upload my list crashed everything and that when I examined it sharing nothing I found it to be mostly junk.Truant wrote:Why don't you scroll halfway down the thread, where you go on to explain that not only are you a pirate...but that you were doing it before anyone else, and in such quantities that you are proclaiming to be the captain....ARRRR MATEY.Kylere wrote:Yes I wrote the work, but notice I also said I was not thieving MP3's, I can write about suicide without killing myself, I can write about murder without killing, and I can write about MP3's without stealing. This is a concept that perhaps is above you.
Granted, you say you didn't download anything yourself. But you had a self - reported 16k songs on 6 harddrives that you distributed to your select group of friends. Which therefore makes you just as much a thief as anyone you are attacking on this thread. It doesn't matter if you owned the cd's, you distributed to those that didn't. You furthermore justfied your pirating, saying that you supported these artists by going to their concerts. I'd like to now direct you to your own line from this thread, with a slight alteration. ahem~
So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief [who is attacking the motivations of another thief] I could really care less what you think, [you] are a hypocrite.
So now we have to go to the lightning round. The question?
Who is more evil? The thief who makes use of stolen goods. Or the supplier who rips off the commercial product for distribution to the masses.
Please phrase your response in the form of a question. Thank you.
I do not thief music, even when my FTP server was going all out, if I did not own it, I did a few listens, then bought if I liked, and trashed if I did not.
The concept still applies when one crook gets on another for their justifications it is bloody well stupid.
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Of course, because inside the house is the only place to conduct sexual activitymasteen wrote:I have a house that I don't have to pay $20 to get into if I wanna get blown.Chidoro wrote:Never mind that shit. You can barely pull off the popcorn trick indoors, while outdoors it's hummers for everyone
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Whatever you say, Mr. Herman...Chidoro wrote:Of course, because inside the house is the only place to conduct sexual activitymasteen wrote:I have a house that I don't have to pay $20 to get into if I wanna get blown.Chidoro wrote:Never mind that shit. You can barely pull off the popcorn trick indoors, while outdoors it's hummers for everyone
wait a minute...Kylere wrote:I owned them and shared them in a responsible manner like that of cassette making, I considered Napster once briefly but the fact that trying to upload my list crashed everything and that when I examined it sharing nothing I found it to be mostly junk.Truant wrote:Why don't you scroll halfway down the thread, where you go on to explain that not only are you a pirate...but that you were doing it before anyone else, and in such quantities that you are proclaiming to be the captain....ARRRR MATEY.Kylere wrote:Yes I wrote the work, but notice I also said I was not thieving MP3's, I can write about suicide without killing myself, I can write about murder without killing, and I can write about MP3's without stealing. This is a concept that perhaps is above you.
Granted, you say you didn't download anything yourself. But you had a self - reported 16k songs on 6 harddrives that you distributed to your select group of friends. Which therefore makes you just as much a thief as anyone you are attacking on this thread. It doesn't matter if you owned the cd's, you distributed to those that didn't. You furthermore justfied your pirating, saying that you supported these artists by going to their concerts. I'd like to now direct you to your own line from this thread, with a slight alteration. ahem~
So when a thief attacks the motivations of a thief [who is attacking the motivations of another thief] I could really care less what you think, [you] are a hypocrite.
So now we have to go to the lightning round. The question?
Who is more evil? The thief who makes use of stolen goods. Or the supplier who rips off the commercial product for distribution to the masses.
Please phrase your response in the form of a question. Thank you.
I do not thief music, even when my FTP server was going all out, if I did not own it, I did a few listens, then bought if I liked, and trashed if I did not.
The concept still applies when one crook gets on another for their justifications it is bloody well stupid.
i read the linked thread. what i'm reading is that you bought cd's, ripped songs off of them, then gave them away to friends. (please correct me if i'm reading this wrong.)
how on earth is that not stealing music? other than in this case you weren't the downloader, you were the downloadee?
and what exactly does "shared in a responsible manner" mean?
i'm not attempting to address your flame war with kyou, i know you're arguing with her about justifying your actions, that's another issue entirely. but i seriously don't understand your rationale here in saying that distributing ripped songs "isn't stealing." please relp. ><
Just because you think you shared your mp3's in a responsible manner does not make it legal.
You are now a criminal, a hypocrite, a liar, and by third definition, a whore.
Shall we continue?
IT'S A CROOK JUSTIFICATION TRIANGLE! So hot!
You are now a criminal, a hypocrite, a liar, and by third definition, a whore.
Shall we continue?

Indeed it does...watching you justify your being a crook is making me laugh to great degrees after seeing you slam others for doing the very same thing.Kylere wrote:The concept still applies when one crook gets on another for their justifications it is bloody well stupid.
IT'S A CROOK JUSTIFICATION TRIANGLE! So hot!
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Just to clarify for you folks - no i'm not bashingmasteen wrote:true Dolby 7.1 system theatre.
DD-EX is a 6.1 sound standard, not 7.1. Same goes with DTS-ES. 7.1 that you hear bantering around is just the rear channel being mirrored on a second rear speaker. Though having a 7.1 speaker setup is far more superior than the 6.1 (dual rears instead of single) because with a 6.1 setup you tend to get a lot of collapsing of the rear sound stage.
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Interesting paraphrase, it was actually a flaw with Napster itself and limits on list size.Aranuil wrote:I particularly liked the part where he said (paraphrased for viewing pleasure):
Glad he's not configuring 802.1x authentication servers!I tried to use Napster but I was too stupid to get it working so I didn't.
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You stupid cunt and/or whore!Truant wrote:Can't you read? She didn't change sides. She never said anything about pirating being wrong. She was criticizing those who said the RIAA made them pirate because they didn't want to pay the cost of a cd at a store. (which by the third definition of whore, would make them whores, not kyoukan)
Read, please.