Dubya action figure

[Xyun]

http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/ka ... dubya.html

[Pahreyia]

Wow I really am getting sick of those... Don't like him? Vote him out of office.

[Seebs]

Ditto. Go vote. You'll lose again, but go vote anyway.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I'm not so sure they will lose again. I sure hope Bush has a hidden Ace or two to pull out befor election time though so maybe it won't be so close this time.

[Fredonia Coldheart]

Wow I really am getting sick of those... Don't like him? Vote him out of office.

But the majority of Americans didn't vote him into office - Gore won the popular vote!

[Xzion]

Shit I didnt realize people STILL SUPPORTED bush...
what the fuck could someone like about that assholes policys?

[noel]

Shit I didnt realize people STILL SUPPORTED bush...
what the fuck could someone like about that assholes policys?

LOL

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Shit I didnt realize people STILL SUPPORTED bush...
what the fuck could someone like about that assholes policys?

What's not to like?

He gave me a tax cut last few years. I get more money back in my refund each year.

He stood up for our freedom and waged war against people who did harm to us and even freed a few million Iraqis under an evil dictator.

He gave seniors their prescription drug benefits.(It's a start)

He is helping our school systems with the no child left behind bill.(Also just a start, more needs to be done)

Most of all, he appears to be a passionate, patriotic leader who is in stark contrast to our last president.

But, beyond that...nothing I guess.

Maybe someday our world will degrade enough to the point we can have a leader who suits your desires. Maybe a pot smoking, MTV Cribs watching, anti-military, anti-space exploration, anti-family values, etc will ascend to our countries highest office. Gosh wouldn't that be swell? Then we could go back to worrying about being taken over and have enemies on our soil. WOOOT

[noel]

Maybe a pot smoking, MTV Cribs watching, anti-military, anti-space exploration, anti-family values, etc will ascend to our countries highest office. Gosh wouldn't that be swell? Then we could go back to worrying about being taken over and have enemies on our soil. WOOOT

Going to have to agree with this portion of Mid's post. Well said! Of course, be glad Xzion is a perpetual loser. You and I will never be competing with him for a job.

For the record, Xzion, when criticizing others (I have a lot of experience with this) it's best to attempt to form a coherent thought. Just a tip. Have a great day!

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

anti-family values

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

anti-family values

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Have children dipshit. It's funny to you now because you obviously don't live your life for your children. Grow up or even at least try to think like one for a second.

[noel]

I'll field this one.

Drolgin has little to no growing up to do, and he's probably not stupid enough to look to his elected officials for family-values. He probably realizes that good values are learned at home. Just a thought, DIPSHIT.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

Woah there. Do me a favor and explain exactly what you think your current president has done for 'family values' that's so great.

The reason I laugh is that usually anyone campaigning from the 'family values' platform is so firmly entrenched in the religious right as to be utterly xenophobic.

[Pahreyia]

I'm not his biggest fan, but christ, instead of starting that shit about him, vote him out of office...

He may have lost the popular vote, but that's not what our electoral process is based on...

I believe in the freedom of speech and expression, but I also believe that most of our country's problems with the political process are because the dissenters don't support a damn thing the opposing winner does for their term in ofice and the campaign processes end up taking 18 months of a President's 48 month term.

Don't love the guy, but let him do his job and vote him out next election.

[Xyun]

Most of all, he appears to be a passionate, patriotic leader who is in stark contrast to our last president.

he is also a bumbling fucking retard in contrast to our last president.

[noel]

I think they both suck ass.

I'll add that I don't think there's been a truly great President in my lifetime.

I did really like the way Bush conducted himself just following the events of 9/11, but that's about it. I firmly believe that having Al Gore as President during that event would have been a bad thing.

[Pahreyia]

Woah there. Do me a favor and explain exactly what you think your current president has done for 'family values' that's so great.

The reason I laugh is that usually anyone campaigning from the 'family values' platform is so firmly entrenched in the religious right as to be utterly xenophobic.

I question what you mean by associating family values/religious right with being xenophobic...

Maybe I'm missing the boat here, but what does one have to do with another?

As far as xenophobia goes, if the world didn't hate America so much already, we'd have little reason or justification for being xenophobic... The greatest defense for that ideology is a 2 square block hole in lower Manhattan.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Woah there. Do me a favor and explain exactly what you think your current president has done for 'family values' that's so great.

The reason I laugh is that usually anyone campaigning from the 'family values' platform is so firmly entrenched in the religious right as to be utterly xenophobic.

I question what you mean by associating family values/religious right with being xenophobic...

Maybe I'm missing the boat here, but what does one have to do with another?

As far as xenophobia goes, if the world didn't hate America so much already, we'd have little reason or justification for being xenophobic... The greatest defense for that ideology is a 2 square block hole in lower Manhattan.

Aye. I firmly believe in good family values, but am not a big religion guy. In fact, I dream for a day when the people of the world can live together without the need for religion. A pipe dream me thinks though.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

I'm talking about 10 years ago, for instance. Remember Buchanan and Robertson at the Republican national convention? Remember good ole Dan Quayle bitching about Murphy Brown (of all things) for "glorifying" single motherhood to the youth of America.

The paranoia of the "family values" crowd - the same crowd, I might add, who so vehemently oppose the idea of same-sex marriages - seems based on a fear of change, a fear of anything that is different.

I've yet to see an american politician campaigning from that platform who spoke to peoples hopes rather than their fears of the unknown, of change.

[Xzion]

Maybe a pot smoking, MTV Cribs watching, anti-military, anti-space exploration, anti-family values, etc will ascend to our countries highest office. Gosh wouldn't that be swell? Then we could go back to worrying about being taken over and have enemies on our soil. WOOOT

Going to have to agree with this portion of Mid's post. Well said! Of course, be glad Xzion is a perpetual loser. You and I will never be competing with him for a job.

For the record, Xzion, when criticizing others (I have a lot of experience with this) it's best to attempt to form a coherent thought. Just a tip. Have a great day!

For the record Aranuil, i have a higher income right now then you probably ever will.
but honestly, who gives a fuck? You make enough assumptions of who i am based on a few paragraphs that take me a good 15-45 seconds to compose

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I'm talking about 10 years ago, for instance. Remember Buchanan and Robertson at the Republican national convention? Remember good ole Dan Quayle bitching about Murphy Brown (of all things) for "glorifying" single motherhood to the youth of America.

The paranoia of the "family values" crowd - the same crowd, I might add, who so vehemently oppose the idea of same-sex marriages - seems based on a fear of change, a fear of anything that is different.

I've yet to see an american politician campaigning from that platform who spoke to peoples hopes rather than their fears of the unknown, of change.

First off I agree, I'd like to see more positive from politicians when they campaign.

Secondly, I think there is enough evidence already that shows that single parent kids "can" get into more trouble, have more behaviorial problems, etc.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

I agree Midnyte, on both counts.

However, I don't think the right way of going about it is by turning every tv show into a rerun of '7th Heaven'.

[Sirensa]

7th Heaven reruns are my guilty pleasure.

[Pahreyia]

I'm talking about 10 years ago, for instance. Remember Buchanan and Robertson at the Republican national convention? Remember good ole Dan Quayle bitching about Murphy Brown (of all things) for "glorifying" single motherhood to the youth of America.

Midnyte hit the mark on this one.

The paranoia of the "family values" crowd - the same crowd, I might add, who so vehemently oppose the idea of same-sex marriages - seems based on a fear of change, a fear of anything that is different.

I don't know that I'd go as far as to say that the "family values" crowd is so much responsible for the opposition of same sex marriages as is the religious right. The fact that they're often complimenting traits of one another, I wouldn't limit family values people to just the right. Plenty of free-thinkers and leftists have campaigned under a family values platform as well.

I've yet to see an american politician campaigning from that platform who spoke to peoples hopes rather than their fears of the unknown, of change.

God, wouldn't that be nice. Find me a 3rd party candidate that can speak intelligently and eloquently from this platform with half a clue how to balance a budget and a lick of common sense and they'll have my vote in a heartbeat.

[Lalanae]

anti-family values

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Have children dipshit. It's funny to you now because you obviously don't live your life for your children. Grow up or even at least try to think like one for a second.

Only the simple-minded equate having children with moral rightness and maturity. If you like children, good for you. Just don't assume it makes you a better person or citizen.

[Dregor Thule]

We need a Midnyte doll that spews dumbass quotes as well. I tell you, it's almost painful listening to some of the things Bush says (and yea, a few of those quotes were edited together). Almost. But damn, I never get tired of the old saying from Texas (probably Tennessee too!)

[noel]

For the record Aranuil, i have a higher income right now then you probably ever will.
but honestly, who gives a fuck? You make enough assumptions of who i am based on a few paragraphs that take me a good 15-45 seconds to compose

I don't believe you.

For the record, I think it's precious that you're so insecure about yourself you had to tell me you make more money than me (which I still doubt).

[Brittney]

Secondly, I think there is enough evidence already that shows that single parent kids "can" get into more trouble, have more behaviorial problems, etc.

Lol what a load of shit

[Coraz]

They forgot the nipple clamps and devil horns outfit.

[Pherr the Dorf]

Just so I can say I said it. Remember that Bush's white house leaked a CIA agent's identity, and that this greatly pissed off the Agency. Last President to piss off the Agency to such a degree was Nixon, and if you think they had nothing to do with Watergate you are naive

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

anti-family values

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Have children dipshit. It's funny to you now because you obviously don't live your life for your children. Grow up or even at least try to think like one for a second.

Only the simple-minded equate having children with moral rightness and maturity. If you like children, good for you. Just don't assume it makes you a better person or citizen.

??? Only you could pull that from what I said. Having children will make one appreciate the need for family values. That's it, nothign more to it.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Secondly, I think there is enough evidence already that shows that single parent kids "can" get into more trouble, have more behaviorial problems, etc.

Lol what a load of shit

http://www.healthscout.com/news/68/8005301/main.html

http://patriot.net/~crouch/adc/jds.html

I'm sure I could find plenty more, but I want to spend my time playing EQ not finding references of obviousness for the monumentaly dumb and ignorant.

[Mplor]

Don't like him? Vote him out of office.

Will do~!

[Xzion]

Maybe a pot smoking, MTV Cribs watching, anti-military, anti-space exploration, anti-family values, etc will ascend to our countries highest office. Gosh wouldn't that be swell? Then we could go back to worrying about being taken over and have enemies on our soil. WOOOT

Going to have to agree with this portion of Mid's post. Well said! Of course, be glad Xzion is a perpetual loser. You and I will never be competing with him for a job.
For the record, Xzion, when criticizing others (I have a lot of experience with this) it's best to attempt to form a coherent thought. Just a tip. Have a great day!

HAHAHAHAHA, you call me insecure when you make this post:?
Godamn dude you are the Epitome of a hypocrite.
Notice that there would have been no reason to boast about my economic backround if you didnt call me a perpetual loser, or are you that much of a one sideded dumbfuck

[Brittney]

Secondly, I think there is enough evidence already that shows that single parent kids "can" get into more trouble, have more behaviorial problems, etc.

Lol what a load of shit

http://www.healthscout.com/news/68/8005301/main.html

http://patriot.net/~crouch/adc/jds.html

I'm sure I could find plenty more, but I want to spend my time playing EQ not finding references of obviousness for the monumentaly dumb and ignorant.

Dude you can find studies to support any argument on the fuckin internet, that don’t mean shit. And if you would rather spend your time playing EQ then sitting here spouting off your crackhead ideals and telling people how they should live then please fuckin do it and kindly stfu.

[Sheryl]

Having children will make one appreciate the need for family values. That's it, nothign more to it.

blanket statements such as this really bother me. loving and protecting your kid is what you're supposed to do. it doesn't magically make you more enlightened than the rest of the world. when you post something like this, it sounds more like you're arguing against change than arguing to support your beliefs. plus you're insulting probably more than half the board by implying they don't love and value their families as much as you do, just because they might be the child, brother, sister, uncle, friend, etc. in their own personal scenarios, rather than the parent.

most people do have family values; whether or not they coincide with yours is another issue.

[Vetiria]

Wow I really am getting sick of those... Don't like him? Vote him out of office.

You can vote against him and still make fun of his stupid comments and behavior. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Arundel Pajo]

He gave me a tax cut last few years. I get more money back in my refund each year.

Can't really debate that. If you got more cash back, more power to you. I didn't. I also was super-chaffed about having a "tax relief for the American Worker" check that later was deducted from my return. Not to mention the push to cut overtime pay for a large percentage of the population.

He stood up for our freedom and waged war against people who did harm to us and even freed a few million Iraqis under an evil dictator.

Yes, and I will agree that Saddam is Bad™ and all, but I still feel lied to for his motivations. If he had been forthwith and simply said, "hey, we've dealt with this jackass long enough, and these people have suffered long enough under our sanctions, let's just end this right now," then he likely would have had more supporters.

But he didn't.

Instead we got stockpiles of WMD's (which we claimed to have photos of and know *exactly* where they were), the ability to launch an assault on Great Britain in 45 minutes or less, attempts to purchase yellowcake from Nigeria, and tons of stockpiled biological and chemical weaponry. Turns out that this was all a sham, and that somebody fairly high up was aware that it was a sham. I don't know about you, but I do feel lied to, and this lie is fuck all more serious than getting a hummer in office. Even if Bush didn't know personally, that leaves one other option - that he's a tool. I don't know which of these options leaves the worse taste in my mouth.

He gave seniors their prescription drug benefits.(It's a start)

He is helping our school systems with the no child left behind bill.(Also just a start, more needs to be done)

Look deeper into these issues. Ask some doctors and pharmacists, or even health insurace agents about that medicaid prescription plan. Ask some teachers or eductaion administrators about the "no child left behind program."

"No child left behind" is bankrupting our public schools in several states. This is not just the fault of bad teachers, either. Look at it like this: If you take a state school system, with its rich districts and poor districts, its high-scoring schools and low-scoring, and then you tell them to all be up to a certain standard, or you're cutting funding, what do you think will happen? The rich districts will pass, and the poor ones, the ones that were doing badly anyway due to a dire lack of funding don't. Cut their funding, and how do you possibly expect them to do better?

I agree the answer is not to merely throw money at the problem, but Bush's plan is less an actual plan of action as it is a way to effectively *cut* money from education while still appearing to be "pro-education."

This has also led what appears to many to be a potential increase in student ignorance. Teachers now are doing what is known as "teaching the test," that is they only teach students materials to help them pass the requirements tests. Teachers are absolutely paranoid about having children fail these tests, because if the school loses money because of them, it will affect *their* jobs....and you really can't always control how well a kid does. The family has to bear some responsibility here somewhere, too.

The whole education thing is seriously fucked up, and Bush did nothing to really help. In fact, he short-changed the schools that *did* pass standards by a substantial amount, and has pledged that if he is re-elected (as part of his budget plan) to hold education to 5% growth over the next term. 5% seems fair, right? Inflation is 2% a year, so a net growth of 5% spread over 4 years comes out to 3% less than inflation - a net *cut* in education dollars.

The medicaid situation is quite similar. It's a quagmire that he just made worse. The really bad thing is that if you stand against it, then you clearly "don't care about the seniors."

Most of all, he appears to be a passionate, patriotic leader who is in stark contrast to our last president.

I like your use of the word "appears." The one credit that I will give willingly to Bush is the fact that he has played his image and the media better than any president ever has in history. His team has a *very* keen understanding of framing and image. Every photo of Bush you will ever see is as carefully choreographed as a Superbowl breast-grab. From the lighting to the camera distance and angles, to the plastic turkey he's serving, to the color of shirts the people in the background are wearing, it's all staged - and it's staged brilliantly. His team has had people in the crown remove their ties and rumple their hair in order to look more like the average american, they have furnished people with jackets that would match the color scheme they were shooting for, they have set barges around the statue of liberty equipped with stadium lights so that they could get a stark image of Bush and the statue together at night. They have hung "mission accomplished" banners prematurely on aircraft carriers. Now, to be sure, I don't think all of this is bad - the man knows how to play image....just be aware that you are being played.

As far as Bush being particularly patriotic....well, I would imagine the term "nationalistic" to fit a bit better.

Maybe someday our world will degrade enough to the point we can have a leader who suits your desires. Maybe a pot smoking, MTV Cribs watching, anti-military, anti-space exploration, anti-family values, etc will ascend to our countries highest office. Gosh wouldn't that be swell? Then we could go back to worrying about being taken over and have enemies on our soil. WOOOT

I'm not quite sure how I feel about the insinuation both here and in another threat that patriotism is somehow linked to unflagging support of the military and rash military actions.

[Aruman]

Most of all, he appears to be a passionate, patriotic leader who is in stark contrast to our last president.

he is also a bumbling fucking retard in contrast to our last president.

Yeah, NAFTA has done wonders for the economy...

[Arundel Pajo]

Most of all, he appears to be a passionate, patriotic leader who is in stark contrast to our last president.

he is also a bumbling fucking retard in contrast to our last president.

Yeah, NAFTA has done wonders for the economy...

erm....Bush hasn't exactly done anything to prevent globalism, has he? Anything I might not be aware of?

[Pherr the Dorf]

NAFTA showed Clinton was more republican then any republican would admit to

Tax and spend (massive deficit spending) says Bush is far more like old school demos then any demo would admit

The difference is the deficit will be Bush's achilles heel

His Waterloo should come out in say... july or august

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Having children will make one appreciate the need for family values. That's it, nothign more to it.

blanket statements such as this really bother me. loving and protecting your kid is what you're supposed to do. it doesn't magically make you more enlightened than the rest of the world. when you post something like this, it sounds more like you're arguing against change than arguing to support your beliefs. plus you're insulting probably more than half the board by implying they don't love and value their families as much as you do, just because they might be the child, brother, sister, uncle, friend, etc. in their own personal scenarios, rather than the parent.

most people do have family values; whether or not they coincide with yours is another issue.

No, you making a whole arguement by pulling a load of shit from a small simple statement bothers me.

I never said some people don't have family values. But, when some jackhole laughs at the very notion of the importance of family values, then I shall repeat my prior statement.

[Arundel Pajo]

Having children will make one appreciate the need for family values. That's it, nothign more to it.

blanket statements such as this really bother me. loving and protecting your kid is what you're supposed to do. it doesn't magically make you more enlightened than the rest of the world. when you post something like this, it sounds more like you're arguing against change than arguing to support your beliefs. plus you're insulting probably more than half the board by implying they don't love and value their families as much as you do, just because they might be the child, brother, sister, uncle, friend, etc. in their own personal scenarios, rather than the parent.

most people do have family values; whether or not they coincide with yours is another issue.

No, you making a whole arguement by pulling a load of shit from a small simple statement bothers me.

I never said some people don't have family values. But, when some jackhole laughs at the very notion of the importance of family values, then I shall repeat my prior statement.

I agree with this to a degree. Being a parent changes things. I'm not one, myself, but I see enough of it in friends. You have a kid, and the values that you impart to that kid become a very high priority. Still, legislating those values is a very dangerous game, in my opinion, which is why I loathe with ever fiber of my being the GOP values platform.

...despite the fact that it just smacks of political insincerity...

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Secondly, I think there is enough evidence already that shows that single parent kids "can" get into more trouble, have more behaviorial problems, etc.

Lol what a load of shit

http://www.healthscout.com/news/68/8005301/main.html

http://patriot.net/~crouch/adc/jds.html

I'm sure I could find plenty more, but I want to spend my time playing EQ not finding references of obviousness for the monumentaly dumb and ignorant.

Dude you can find studies to support any argument on the fuckin internet, that don’t mean shit. And if you would rather spend your time playing EQ then sitting here spouting off your crackhead ideals and telling people how they should live then please fuckin do it and kindly stfu.

Wow. Well said. You sure are a great contributor to conversation on a topic.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Having children will make one appreciate the need for family values. That's it, nothign more to it.

blanket statements such as this really bother me. loving and protecting your kid is what you're supposed to do. it doesn't magically make you more enlightened than the rest of the world. when you post something like this, it sounds more like you're arguing against change than arguing to support your beliefs. plus you're insulting probably more than half the board by implying they don't love and value their families as much as you do, just because they might be the child, brother, sister, uncle, friend, etc. in their own personal scenarios, rather than the parent.

most people do have family values; whether or not they coincide with yours is another issue.

No, you making a whole arguement by pulling a load of shit from a small simple statement bothers me.

I never said some people don't have family values. But, when some jackhole laughs at the very notion of the importance of family values, then I shall repeat my prior statement.

I agree with this to a degree. Being a parent changes things. I'm not one, myself, but I see enough of it in friends. You have a kid, and the values that you impart to that kid become a very high priority. Still, legislating those values is a very dangerous game, in my opinion, which is why I loathe with ever fiber of my being the GOP values platform.

...despite the fact that it just smacks of political insincerity...

Aye, sometimes it does seem insincere for sure. I don't want the government to legislate family values. I just really find it comforting and admirable when the people up top who have so much influence recognize it's importance.

Family is the greatest natural resource on earth. Not every one has a great family unit and that sucks. Maybe it's the Italian in me or something, but family has kept me from taking advantage of some really great financial opportunities outside the state, etc...but I wouldn't trade money for my family, ever. I see family as a good thing for society. The loyalty, the bonds, the love....they are just the things that money can't buy, that nothing can tear apart, that breeds a person who exudes those traits I seek in a leader.

[kyoukan]

Woah there. Do me a favor and explain exactly what you think your current president has done for 'family values' that's so great.

I bet his daughters really appreciate him when he lets them run around in every fucking bar in DC boozing it up while still underage.

Gore would have made such a fantastic president. And a democratically elected one too. Fortunately Kerry looks like he's going to bounce him out of office because I can't see anyone outside the collosally stupid fucking morons like midnyte ever voting for such a boob. Granted the US has no shortage of collosal fucking morons.

no child left behind, lol. yeah that's really helping your education system out.

[Brittney]

Secondly, I think there is enough evidence already that shows that single parent kids "can" get into more trouble, have more behaviorial problems, etc.

Lol what a load of shit

http://www.healthscout.com/news/68/8005301/main.html

http://patriot.net/~crouch/adc/jds.html

I'm sure I could find plenty more, but I want to spend my time playing EQ not finding references of obviousness for the monumentaly dumb and ignorant.

Dude you can find studies to support any argument on the fuckin internet, that don’t mean shit. And if you would rather spend your time playing EQ then sitting here spouting off your crackhead ideals and telling people how they should live then please fuckin do it and kindly stfu.

Wow. Well said. You sure are a great contributor to conversation on a topic.

My intentions in this thread were never to go spouting off my political beliefs or to go telling people how I think they should live their lives. The only thing I ever set out to do in this thread was to point out how full of shit you were and wonder just how you got so fuckin out of touch with reality where you would actually believe the shit you spout.

You sit here and preach your views like you are some sort of high and mighty parent trying to teach their children that what you think is right because of your superior morals. You say some really offensive fucking shit dude and then you expect not to get fuckin called out when your bullshit gets so thick you can hardly walk by without fainting from the stench? Give me a mother fucking break. I for one call em as I see em and you sir are an arrogant self-righteous little bitch. Here, take these 50 Veeshan Vault credits I’m gunna give you and buy a ticket to the lala land you fuckin live in and never come back. In fact while you are there see if you can find your power animal, maybe if you beg for a while it will beat some sense into that empty fuckin skull of yours.

I would go into more depth as to why you are such a retard but I think I would rather just play some EQ.

[Hesten]

Well, im probaby gonna get flamed for this (always flames when talking politics), but heres my view on Bush as a non-american:

Good things:
He didnt nuke the middle east after 9/11 (Reagan would have)

Bad things:
Restarted development of mini nukes.
Started a war on false premises (although in the sense of fairness, Denmark is not much better, we were one of the first countries to support the war, sending our totally usefull submarine over to help in a desert war. And for the record, NO, i did not vote for the moron leading my country at the moment either ).
Declared war over although he loose people daily.
SKipped the Kyoto environmental agreement that 108 countries, INCLUDING USA had signet at first, that way making sure US factories can pollute as much as they want (can you say lobbysts anyone).
Setting up war criminal camp that break the constitution, and several international laws.
Imprisoning non-US citizens in said war criminal camps for up to 18 months without trial.
Failed to know that Africa is a continent.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

You pissed off Brittney.

I'm impressed. Mangina trick you?

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

But, when some jackhole laughs at the very notion of the importance of family values, then I shall repeat my prior statement.

You're so dense it's gone past sad, past so-sad-that-it's-funny, past so-sad-that-it's-ceased-to-be-funny-and-become-sad-again.

I could post here how I laughed, not at the notion that family values are important but at the idea that legislating your way to some misunderstood-1950s idea of a nuclear family is the best way to go about things, but I doubt you'd understand it. And I really don't want to be called a jackhole or a dipshit again, it shatters my fragile ego.