Troy

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » November 15, 2003, 2:01 am

http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=544320

ummm

wow

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 15, 2003, 2:42 am

Well it has Brad Pitt so it can't be all bad. Especially when, if they follow history, he dies. Besides, once you've watched Hercules you know the whole story...or was that Xena? Yeah that is da shitz.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » November 15, 2003, 4:22 am

I'm not sure Hercules or Xena has anything to do with Achilles or Troy. But it is sydication.

Kaelina · Post by **Kaelina** » November 15, 2003, 2:27 pm

This has the potential to be a great movie, as long as they don't Hollywood it up too much.

noel · Post by **noel** » November 15, 2003, 3:09 pm

This movie will kick all manner of ass. Casting Sean Bean as Odysseus is a stroke of rare genius. This movie is going to own.

Crav · Post by **Crav** » November 15, 2003, 6:44 pm

This can be a pretty good movie, I just hope the acting is good and that the scripting isn't as bad as most of the other attempts at the Iliad and Odyssey.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 15, 2003, 7:53 pm

Hope the Sinead I'Conner song Troy is in there. That song rocks!

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 16, 2003, 1:16 am

I heard they had to use a double for brad pitt for all the leg-shots, cause his legs looked like bird-legs.

He bulked up for the role, but preferred to just train the upper body and forgot his quads, hams and calves.

So, expect no full-figure shots of Brad.

Nonetheless, it's good to see a modern 'Swords and Sandals' movie being made!

Who could forget the old Harryhausen Sinbad movies and Lou Ferrigno's Hercules movies! LOL!

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Also heard King Conan was under production again, without Arnold this time.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » November 17, 2003, 5:08 am

No gods in the cast listing(other than achilles mom)...kinda lame, but it should be fun anyhow. In the book, gods played big parts in the battles, so I dunno what they are doing not putting gods in the movie. I wanted to see apollo run down mount olympus and unleash a rain of arrows on the achaens.

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » November 17, 2003, 11:01 am

2 words Orlando Bloom

2 more word Yum Yum

a_guide · Post by **a_guide** » November 17, 2003, 1:01 pm

Shashonna wrote:2 words Orlando Bloom

2 more word Yum Yum

Don't forget he'll be in a skirt.

Beautiful and/or (some) androgynous men are way hot

Sirensa · Post by **Sirensa** » November 17, 2003, 2:09 pm

Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom and Sean Bean - absolutely can't go wrong

I am sooooooo psyched for this movie!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 17, 2003, 2:14 pm

Brad Pitts ok but miscast I think in this. Couldn't they have made a 3+ hour sequel to Meet Joe Black for him?

Russell Crowe > Brad Pitt

for Ancient World movies!

At my signal, unleash Brad Pitt's bird legs upon Troy!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 17, 2003, 2:39 pm

Keverian FireCry wrote:No gods in the cast listing(other than achilles mom)...kinda lame, but it should be fun anyhow. In the book, gods played big parts in the battles, so I dunno what they are doing not putting gods in the movie. I wanted to see apollo run down mount olympus and unleash a rain of arrows on the achaens.

True, I thought about that as well. Then I came to the conclusion that the book was called The Illiad, not Troy. So while this draws from Homer's work, it's not a retelling of what he wrote.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » November 17, 2003, 5:34 pm

True, but still gods would have been awesome, and they played a part in the battle of Troy, which I'm guessing this movie is focusing on. It's like not putting any magic in LoTR

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » November 17, 2003, 9:21 pm

what chicken legs? he looks mighty fine to me /drool

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 17, 2003, 9:44 pm

Dunno, I've seen him cast in much better parts for him. It should have been Johnny Depp again with Orlando Bloom!

Switcharoo! Stunt legs!

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » November 17, 2003, 10:20 pm

muscular men who look like they have tumors underneath the skin disgust me, like in this drawing

Rivera Bladestrike · November 17, 2003, 11:55 pm

Looks like a cool movie, i can always go for a movie with massive battles.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2003, 12:05 am

July 16, 2003 - The Evening Standard reports Brad Pitt has had shots of his legs replaced on 'Troy' - because they didn't have that "Gladiator look". Producers on the film decreed that Pitt's legs were "too thin" - and reshot close ups using a more muscular man. A source confides, "Brad's a great guy, but close up, his legs were just too thin. I think the costume department were trying for that Russell Crowe-Gladiator look."

Legs Advantage: Crowe!
Awards: Crowe!
Acting Talent: Crowe!
The look that makes women want to drop their panties at the mere sight of him: Pitt!

Conclusion: Pin a poster of Pitt up in your bathroom and leave the acting to Crowe. You can throw in a little Orlando Bloom if needed for pretty boy effect although I think Orlano has more acting talent.

Pitt's not that bad but miscast I think. I'm curious how he'll be as Captain America. I understand he's signed to do that movie. Captain America has muscles so I think they'll have to put Pitt in one of those Sumu costumes that you fight in for fun to bulk him up.

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » November 18, 2003, 2:31 am

I'm a big fan of greek and roman mythology, any movie with epic battles, skimpy dressed men (skirts/kilts!) and decent dialogue will have me glued to my seat. And "Helen of Troy" the TV mini series was not bad for a made for TV production.

Russel Crowe? Obssess much Winnow? Didn't he get kinda chubby lately?
wife must feed him well.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 18, 2003, 3:28 pm

Ennia wrote: any movie with epic battles, skimpy dressed men (skirts/kilts!)

here you go ennia : )

http://www.kiltmen.com/movies.htm

Have a kilt marathon!

If russell crowe porked out it must be for an upcoming role! I'm not obsessed with crowe but do think he'd be cast better in the role.

Soon software will be available that will allow you to change the face of actors in movies on DVDs you purchase. I will change Pitt's face to Crowes! Everyone else in the movie will look like Sandra Bullock.

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » November 18, 2003, 3:55 pm

thanks for that link lol
as Mrs. Doubtfire would say: Oooh you wicked, wicked man!

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 18, 2003, 6:20 pm

Brad Pitt as Captain America? Credibility ZERO!

He'd have to add about 40 pounds to somewhat resemble ol Steve Rogers!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » November 18, 2003, 7:16 pm

Brad Pitt's legs look like they're the same size as his arms. This is not normal, and definitely not what an ancient Hellene who'd been running into battle with 100+ pounds of armor and weapons half his life would be built like.

As long as this movie stays historically correct and we get to see Brad and Orlando buggering each other in true Greek fashion, I'm sure it'll be a big hit!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » November 18, 2003, 8:19 pm

Russell Crowe in that role would have been a large miscast. Very large.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » November 18, 2003, 9:32 pm

Crowe gained weight for Master and Commander, in the books, his character was 220 lbs or so. He didnt go that far, but he did gain weight for that role and he can lose weight for any action roles if he wants. Good actors can go back and forth from fat to uber buff in a few months. If he seems fat it's because his latest role needed it that way. When he needs to be buff, he is so(Gladiator he was incredibly fit).

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 19, 2003, 4:59 am

Aslanna wrote:Russell Crowe in that role would have been a large miscast. Very large.

simah down! : )

Crowe has a beautiful mind and doesn't need beautiful lady-like legs like Pitt to impress the women!

I find you very attractive. Your assertiveness tells me that you feel the same way about me. But ritual remains that we must do a series of platonic actions before we can have intercourse. But all I really want to do is have sex with you as soon as possible.

I don't exactly know what I am required to say in order for you to have intercourse with me. But could we assume that I said all that. I mean essentially we are talking about fluid exchange right? So could we go just straight to the sex?

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 19, 2003, 5:18 am

Pitt is rarely in a bad film.... I am sure it will be at least somewhat watchable..

(He still gets credit for Kalifornia!!)

Siji · Post by **Siji** » November 19, 2003, 10:34 am

I could happily live the rest of my life never seeing Crowe on the screen again.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » November 19, 2003, 1:02 pm

I like them both. It would be cool to have them in the same movie. Maybe going against each other. Regardless, this thread is about Troy. I almost want to cringe at the thought of yet another movie/series/tv drama about it. I'd rather see something about the Spartans. Or how about a remake of Spartacus? Or the Fall of Rome.

My favorite Romanesque movie of all time....can you guess?....Caligula!!!

Trek · Post by **Trek** » November 20, 2003, 9:33 pm

Siji wrote:I could happily live the rest of my life never seeing Crowe on the screen again.

Can I get an Amen!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » November 21, 2003, 5:28 pm

Trek wrote:
Siji wrote:I could happily live the rest of my life never seeing Crowe on the screen again.
Can I get an Amen!

Gladiator 2 (prequel!)
Beautiful Mind 2 - The Mental Ward Years

I'm sure he's signed for more!

Trek · Post by **Trek** » November 22, 2003, 3:30 am

Just because you can make a movie, doesnt mean you should. I can't wait for Gladiator VII, I know he gets sent back by the gods to reclaim Rome from the evil guy that raped his third wife before killing her with a javelin through the chest, that will be sweet.

Edit: Thats when you find out he's an imortal and that is actually the prequel to Highlander Final End Finished Game Over

Kwonryu DragonFist · November 22, 2003, 6:36 am

I am sure this movie will be good, especially for those who like this kind of movie, ranging from fantasy-fans to those who like old historical movies and Sword and Sandal movies from the past.

The movie will be liked also because there aren't many movies of this kind made these days compared with the past.

Last movie with a somewhat similar theme would be Gladiator.

But i think they could have picked another cast though. Brad Pitt and Orlando Legolas aren't the most credible Greek heroes out there!

Oh well, who cares about credibility these days, im sure this movies producers dont , they just want to make money and since Brad and Orlando probably have a huge audience, they hope it will sell OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of tickets.

I just wish the next movieproduction in this style or "genre" will have producers who care abit more about the actors credibility!

Brad Pitt as Achilles, the Hero from Hellas? Yeah right! Brad as Achilles is a credible as Pee Wee Herman in the same role!

At least the didnt put Brad playing Hercules!

Taly · Post by **Taly** » November 22, 2003, 7:09 pm

hmm and to think they did this story for TV this year too. overkill

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » May 7, 2004, 11:57 am

Bump...anyone else excited about this release?

Legenae · Post by **Legenae** » May 7, 2004, 12:08 pm

Yes, ME!

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » May 7, 2004, 2:14 pm

OK...the bad news for this film except for the ladies and Fesuni) is that they apparently decided to really go Greek and show an overabundance of man-ass. Specifically Pitt's man-ass.

Guy I work with and his friend somehow managed to see a sneak preview and were quite disappointed in this aspect. There was however, a good naked chick scene early in the movie. I think he said 2 naked chicks with Pitt's man-ass.

I am disgusted that they feel the need to ruin a prefectly good movie of ass kicking by showing the asses that are being kicked. Damn Hollywood all to hell.

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » May 7, 2004, 3:56 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:OK...the bad news for this film except for the ladies and Fesuni) is that they apparently decided to really go Greek and show an overabundance of man-ass. Specifically Pitt's man-ass.

Guy I work with and his friend somehow managed to see a sneak preview and were quite disappointed in this aspect. There was however, a good naked chick scene early in the movie. I think he said 2 naked chicks with Pitt's man-ass.

I am disgusted that they feel the need to ruin a prefectly good movie of ass kicking by showing the asses that are being kicked. Damn Hollywood all to hell.

My penis and I really can't wait to see this now!

Post by **Sylvus** » May 7, 2004, 6:18 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I am disgusted that they feel the need to ruin a prefectly good movie of ass kicking by showing the asses that are being kicked. Damn Hollywood all to hell.

What, are you afraid it's going to make you turn?It's just an ass; its presence on the screen doesn't mean that you have to interact with anyone else's penis.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » May 9, 2004, 11:39 am

Really I could care less who is in a movie as long as they can act. The man ass thing is no biggie they have to appeal to women (and Fesuni) just liuke they have boobies and chick ass tio make guys happy. I can dig it, it is called marketing. I would love to see a gritty realistic portrayal of the siege though. With a bunch of Bgrade movie guys like Michael Ironside the dude from Eddie and the Cruisers, etc.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 12, 2004, 10:24 am

Disregarding the fact that Brad "Chickenlegs" Pitt plays the Great Hero Achilles, this looks like its a good action movie!

Not many movies of this type is made these days, movies about Greek Mythos/Legends and History are always interesting to me!

They should have a spot for Lou Ferrigno in the movie tho, playing an aging Hercules...

WHo's the greatest greek hero? Achilles or Hercules?

Crav · Post by **Crav** » May 12, 2004, 5:03 pm

WHo's the greatest greek hero? Achilles or Hercules?

I would vote for Theseus.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 12, 2004, 7:53 pm

[quote="Kwonryu DragonFist"]Disregarding the fact that Brad "Chickenlegs" Pitt plays the Great Hero Achilles, this looks like its a good action movie!
[/quote]

They should have cast Marcie from Married with Children to play Achilles... same legs and she would have come much cheaper!

noel · Post by **noel** » May 13, 2004, 10:38 am

Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:Who's the greatest greek hero? Achilles or Hercules?

It's been a while since I read mythology extensively, but I used to be rather up on Greek, Roman, Norse, and Arthurian mythology. Given that, I recall Achilles as having been a cool character that never really got developed save the story of the Trojan war. Other greek heroes such as Hercules, Odysseus, Theseus and Perseus, actually did a great deal more in my opinion. Achilles is basically known for being almost invulnerable, and for getting killed in the Trojan war.... Spoiler there for those of you who've never read any Greek mythology.

At any rate, for my money, it would be a tossup between Odysseus and Hercules with Perseus coming up as a close third. I have no idea how the movie will depict Odysseus since the focus appears to be Achilles, but make no mistake, he was a bad motherfucker. Casting Sean Bean as Odysseus was a stroke of genius.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » May 13, 2004, 10:49 am

Hercules, classically, wasn't a very heroic hero from what I remember of my Greek history. He had a bit of a superiority complex, and it showed itself in a harsh light sometimes. Achilles, from what accounts I've read, was a pretty noble guy.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 13, 2004, 10:54 am

Well basically Hera was attempting to kill Hercules to get back at Zeus for fucking some mortal. The reason I put Herc on equal footing with the others is because through his 12 labors, he killed some of the baddest monsters in Greek mythology. Hydra anyone?

Achilles was a noble guy, but I've read about anything he did other than the Trojan war. It's not hard to be noble when you're invulnerable.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 13, 2004, 2:03 pm

I saw a 30 minute preview/making of Troy on HBO last night.

It lowered my expectations unfortunately. It looks like a bunch of pretty boys running around and a half dead looking Peter O'Toole on his last gasp.

Doesn't mean it will be bad but that preview didn't help.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 13, 2004, 6:56 pm

Hercules is teh greatest greek hero IMO and i put Odysseus in 2nd place!