The new Govna!

Mort · Post by **Mort** » August 13, 2003, 4:05 pm

I know the list should be out tonight... but I thought I would jumpstart it and start a discussion about who you see running California, and why.

The big players so far....

Arnold Schwarzenegger
Arianna Huffington
Bill Simon
"Smut peddler who cares," Larry Flynt
Gary Coleman
Cruz Bustamante
Peter Ueberroth
Tom Mcclintock

Discuss

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » August 13, 2003, 4:10 pm

The only way Schwarzenegger loses is if the recall fails.

Name recoignition is going to sew it up for him.

Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » August 13, 2003, 4:20 pm

You also forgot pornstar Mary Carey. D.L. Hughley also supposedly took out filing papers.

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » August 13, 2003, 4:21 pm

I thought this was kinda a funny pic.

-=Lohrno

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 13, 2003, 4:22 pm

gary coleman doesnt have one single chance of winning, hes only in the race in the first place because people put him up to it. I could see why he did it though, this much publicity for only $3500

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2003, 5:25 pm

so many conservatives running that the vote will get split and Davis will get re-elected and California will become even worse off than it is now after spending 300 million on a recall and another election. This rules because laughing at the american democratic system is becoming a favorite pasttime of mine.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » August 13, 2003, 5:30 pm

I agree with you Kyou, except you are exagerating the cost of the recall election. The most recent figures I've seen still place the cost between 30 and 40 million.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » August 13, 2003, 5:35 pm

Davis can't be re-elected in the recall vote. Might be a good idea to get some information before you try you hand at prognostication.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 13, 2003, 5:59 pm

I predict Arnold's own party buttfucking him once someone draws his social views out into the open, which is a shame because I really think he is the best person for the job. Hate to say it, but next to Arnold, Mr Flint is the most honest of the bunch and he has even more experience dealing in politics than Arny. He doesn't have quite Arny's level of business savvy though.

Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » August 13, 2003, 6:07 pm

Kargyle wrote:I agree with you Kyou, except you are exagerating the cost of the recall election. The most recent figures I've seen still place the cost between 30 and 40 million.

California's secretary of state is already estimating that the special election will cost you fine citizens of California between $53 million and $66 million. But hey whats another couple of million when your already in the hole for $38 Billion.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2003, 6:08 pm

Fallanthas wrote:Davis can't be re-elected in the recall vote. Might be a good idea to get some information before you try you hand at prognostication.

what? of course he can re-run, and he is doing just that. he is already fucking campaigning you stupid shit head. why do you waste my time and yours by arguing with in every single fucking post when you are always so WRONG? is your life that boring? grab your flame thrower and go deer hunting or something you shitheel and stop stepping on my toes to get my attention.

Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » August 13, 2003, 6:17 pm

Actually Kyou if the vote to be recalled goes through Davis is ousted and whoever had the highest votes will finish out Davis' current term. There will be 2 questions on the October ballot.

Should Gray Davis be recalled as Govenor?
Please select one of the following candidates for GOVERNOR.

If the recall passes whichever replacement candidate in question two receives the most votes will be sworn in as soon as the results are certified. If the recall fails, Davis will remain Governor.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2003, 6:22 pm

same difference. voting to not recall davis is the same as voting for him.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » August 13, 2003, 6:25 pm

You're arguing semantics.

Correct, Davis isn't running for re-election, but he is campaigning.

Davis is campaigning to not be recalled.

The ballot asks:

1. Do you want Gray Davis to be recalled as Governor?
2. If Gray Davis is recalled, which candidate (of the following list) should take his place?

Gray Davis is not in section 2, but instead keeps his job (not, not "re-elected", simply not thrown out of office) if the majority of the votors vote against recalling him in section 1.

Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » August 13, 2003, 6:33 pm

Ashur [FoH] wrote:You're arguing semantics.

Correct, Davis isn't running for re-election, but he is campaigning.

Davis is campaigning to not be recalled.

The ballot asks:

1. Do you want Gray Davis to be recalled as Governor?
2. If Gray Davis is recalled, which candidate (of the following list) should take his place?

Gray Davis is not in section 2, but instead keeps his job (not, not "re-elected", simply not thrown out of office) if the majority of the votors vote against recalling him in section 1.

Isn't that what we said? Ashur are you pharming posts?

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » August 13, 2003, 6:39 pm

Hrm, think I have may have been interrupted by work in my reply and got it in after yours because I don't believe those last two posts were on there when I clicked reply.

If I wanted to pharm I could do it a lot easier by just quoting pro Bush/anti Bush propaganda in the "Current Events" forum, but I find both sides tiresome.

My apologies if my post appears redundant.

Have a nice day

Ramius · Post by **Ramius** » August 13, 2003, 6:51 pm

Well hey that makes sense. I was just joking about pharming posts. I keep forgetting to use those silly smilies over to the left side of my screen. Oh well.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » August 13, 2003, 6:52 pm

Something tells me with a 20% approval rating he is wasting his time and his partys money.

Forget it Kyou. You aren't even entertaining anymore.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2003, 7:06 pm

that ricochet sound you all just heard was fallanthas changing directions in his argument to desperately try and not look like an idiot.

Brotha · Post by **Brotha** » August 13, 2003, 7:35 pm

kyoukan wrote:what? of course he can re-run, and he is doing just that.

How can he "re-run" for a recall vote if he never has been part of one before? It's quite clear what line of reasoning you were going down.

kyoukan wrote:same difference. voting to not recall davis is the same as voting for him.

You really suck at backpedalling, probably a reflection of you having legs about ten inches long irl.

kyoukan wrote:that ricochet sound you all just heard was fallanthas changing directions in his argument to desperately try and not look like an idiot.

The only idiot I've seen in this thread is you trying to act like you know everything, while at the same time sounding like the usual full of hate, pathetic, board troll we've all come to know and pity.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 13, 2003, 7:48 pm

Brotha wrote:
kyoukan wrote:what? of course he can re-run, and he is doing just that.
How can he "re-run" for a recall vote if he never has been part of one before? It's quite clear what line of reasoning you were going down.

In the above statement, re-run = campaign as used in the statement: "Governor Davis was campaigning not to be recalled."

Brotha wrote:
kyoukan wrote:same difference. voting to not recall davis is the same as voting for him.
You really suck at backpedalling, probably a reflection of you having legs about ten inches long irl.

Her statement is 100% correct. To paraphrase your misplaced insult: You really suck at reading.

Brotha wrote:
kyoukan wrote:that ricochet sound you all just heard was fallanthas changing directions in his argument to desperately try and not look like an idiot.
The only idiot I've seen in this thread is you trying to act like you know everything, while at the same time sounding like the usual full of hate, pathetic, board troll we've all come to know and pity.

Too easy.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » August 13, 2003, 8:19 pm

I don't think that Re-run is really the correct terminology to use, but that is a fairly minor quibble.

Kyoukan's initial quote was:

so many conservatives running that the vote will get split and Davis will get re-elected and California will become even worse off than it is now after spending 300 million on a recall and another election.

This is impossible the way the recall is currently structured, as others have pointed out its a vote for if you want Davis out. Then a vote for who you want to vote for (in a list that does not contain Davis). Any split of the conservative vote will have no effect on the Davis recall item. Davis has petitioned the California State Supreme Court to allow his name to be in the second list. I haven't heard that they have ruled on that particular petition, I would be suprised if he is successful though.

Brotha · Post by **Brotha** » August 13, 2003, 8:23 pm

Aranuil wrote:Her statement is 100% correct. To paraphrase your misplaced insult: You really suck at reading.

Where did I even hint at that statement not being correct? However, it's not what she said in her original post- in other words, the whole backpedalling thing I was talking about. If you're going to criticize someone's reading comprehension, the least you could do is pm their post to someone with above tenth grade reading skills and have them double check it for you- sort of a "spell checker" if you will.

Look at the quote Chmee posted as well.

edit: edited out a weird line of reasoning

noel · Post by **noel** » August 13, 2003, 8:42 pm

Brotha wrote:
Aranuil wrote:Her statement is 100% correct. To paraphrase your misplaced insult: You really suck at reading.
Where did I even hint at that statement not being correct? However, it's not what she said in her original post- in other words, the whole backpedalling thing I was talking about. If you're going to criticize someone's reading comprehension, the least you could do is pm their post to someone with above tenth grade reading skills and have them double check it for you- sort of a "spell checker" if you will.

Look at the quote Chmee posted as well.

edit: edited out a weird line of reasoning

Fuck me, that's what I get for defending a Canadian!

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 13, 2003, 9:15 pm

Brotha wrote:
kyoukan wrote:same difference. voting to not recall davis is the same as voting for him.
You really suck at backpedalling, probably a reflection of you having legs about ten inches long irl.

not really, it all depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is in that statement

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 13, 2003, 9:26 pm

is

v.
Third person singular present indicative of be.

Apparantly

THANKS DICTIONARY.COM AND CAPS LOCK!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » August 13, 2003, 9:33 pm

As if this wasn't enough of a circus, now we got Slick Willy all but sucking Gray's cock. The game isn't over yet (and it IS California) so I'm hopeful we'll get to see some moderate-liberal man-love yet.

p.s. Every single one of you West Coast Froot Loops that laughed at Florida because some old farts couldn't tell if they got it in teh hole can fucking rot in Hell!

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 13, 2003, 10:08 pm

karmas a bitch

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2003, 10:37 pm

I didn't know Bustamonte threw his hat in the ring. This changes quite a bit. I was under the impression that no democrats were going to run against Davis in the recall.

I don't like Bustamonte at all but giving Californians another democrat to pick on the ballet might screw Davis' chances pretty hard.

Acies · Post by **Acies** » August 13, 2003, 11:04 pm

kyoukan wrote:I didn't know Bustamonte threw his hat in the ring. This changes quite a bit. I was under the impression that no democrats were going to run against Davis in the recall.

I don't like Bustamonte at all but giving Californians another democrat to pick on the ballet might screw Davis' chances pretty hard.

Good, I hate that son of a bitch.

Nilaman · Post by **Nilaman** » August 13, 2003, 11:07 pm

Thought you were taking a break posting? Did your fiance get tired of listening to you bitch and moan about things you have no clue about? Do you only post here because this is the only place anyone will almost-listen to you? I bet thats it.

Go inflate some friends.

Acies · Post by **Acies** » August 13, 2003, 11:13 pm

Nilaman wrote:Thought you were taking a break posting? Did your fiance get tired of listening to you bitch and moan about things you have no clue about? Do you only post here because this is the only place anyone will almost-listen to you? I bet thats it.

Go inflate some friends.

Pathetic.
If I throw a stick, will you leave?

noel · Post by **noel** » August 13, 2003, 11:24 pm

Nilaman wrote:Thought you were taking a break posting? Did your fiance get tired of listening to you bitch and moan about things you have no clue about? Do you only post here because this is the only place anyone will almost-listen to you? I bet thats it.

Go inflate some friends.

Shut the fuck up.

No one will miss you if you never post again.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2003, 11:28 pm

Nilaman wrote:Thought you were taking a break posting? Did your fiance get tired of listening to you bitch and moan about things you have no clue about? Do you only post here because this is the only place anyone will almost-listen to you? I bet thats it.

Maybe. Why do you post here? Just to get my attention?

Nilaman · Post by **Nilaman** » August 13, 2003, 11:32 pm

Fear the anti-thought.

Aranuil, die. You waste much time.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 14, 2003, 12:07 am

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 14, 2003, 12:23 am

Nilaman wrote:Fear the anti-thought.

Aranuil, die. You waste much time.

Thanks for editing and mentioning me. My life is complete now.

Your posts are always informative and of great value.

Oh wait, they're not.

Nilaman · Post by **Nilaman** » August 14, 2003, 1:49 am

Well, I didn't want to make another post dedicated entirely to how stupid you are. Again, you waste much time.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 14, 2003, 2:09 am

dude he totally brushed you off like he thinks he is better than you, are you going to take that from him??

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 14, 2003, 6:03 am

The Govna aka The Oak!

It will be Ahnuld for sure!

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » August 14, 2003, 6:28 am

Only one more vacancy to fill before Retard Voltron becomes a reality! Who shall join Cartalas, Metanis, Brotha, and Atokal to form the vanguard of all that is stupid? Who is it who shall be the final component in bringing VV to a new level of retardation?!

I believe the search has ended!

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » August 14, 2003, 6:58 am

Does Hammerstalker count or do Hammer and Atokal both drive like one leg or something?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 14, 2003, 7:43 am

kyoukan wrote:I didn't know Bustamonte threw his hat in the ring. This changes quite a bit. I was under the impression that no democrats were going to run against Davis in the recall.

I don't like Bustamonte at all but giving Californians another democrat to pick on the ballet might screw Davis' chances pretty hard.

...wait, the porn star is a republican??
or a 3rd party

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » August 14, 2003, 7:57 am

Kelgar wrote:Only one more vacancy to fill before Retard Voltron becomes a reality! Who shall join Cartalas, Metanis, Brotha, and Atokal to form the vanguard of all that is stupid? Who is it who shall be the final component in bringing VV to a new level of retardation?!

I believe the search has ended!

I see Tard boy is re using old VV ideas. The Voltron joke is old. get some new material or better yet come up with some of your own.

Kelgar · Post by **Kelgar** » August 14, 2003, 8:18 am

I see Tard boy is re using old VV ideas. The Voltron joke is old. get some new material or better yet come up with some of your own.

Lol. So now we go from copying my genetic garbage flames to what I've been tossing at you recently. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. What's next? You going to offer to suck my shaft?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » August 14, 2003, 8:23 am

Kelgar wrote:
I see Tard boy is re using old VV ideas. The Voltron joke is old. get some new material or better yet come up with some of your own.
Lol. So now we go from copying my genetic garbage flames to what I've been tossing at you recently. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. What's next? You going to offer to suck my shaft?

No but have fun riding my COCK!!!!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 14, 2003, 9:04 am

Please Stop the Bickering!

One more Pic of the Oak will make everyone friends again!

Ahnuld for Gov'na!

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » August 14, 2003, 9:19 am

Retard Voltron is not a stupid rehash. It is a classic, and therefore will be allowed. Carry on.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » August 14, 2003, 10:40 am

Before Davis can get re-elected, the Cali Supreme Court has to rule to allow him on the ballot.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understood that there will be 2 votes at 2 times: the first a yes/no recall or don't vote, then if the yeas win, the second vote will be for the new governor.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » August 14, 2003, 11:02 am

There are two items on the ballot, whether or not to recall Davis, and then a vote for govenor. They will both be voted on at the same time.

I saw someone post on another board that Davis's petition to have his name on the second part of the ballot where in the group that the state supreme court had already turned down, but I haven't found a solid reference for it yet.