Non-EQ related tech advice

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 22, 2003, 10:37 pm

I have a laptop I use for work. It's Windows 2000. Home PC is Windows 98 (Yeah yeah I know. However, no drivers for my cable modem (one-way!) came out for Win2k/XP). I have network cards in both. Is there any way to get them to talk when I bring the laptop home?

I'm sure if I made them both the same workgroup it would work but then I'd have to have my laptop join the domain once I went back to work (I think). I did get a D-Link router thingie from Best Buy if that will help. Was only $30 and figured since I'd probably get another PC up in the future why not. Do those work as a hub as well to let the 2 PCs talk to each other or did I get the wrong thing?

noel · Post by **noel** » February 22, 2003, 11:07 pm

They don't have to be in the same workgroup... They do have to be in the same IP subnet. If you can set that up, you can use the IP address in place of the UNC name. For example:

\\192.168.10.15\My files

Where 192.168.10.15 is the IP address of the computer you're sharing, and 'My files' is the share name.

Feel free to ask if you need clarification on this.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » February 22, 2003, 11:18 pm

A hub might have been a better choice over the router. How many ports does it have?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 22, 2003, 11:23 pm

I'll try the subnet thing and see how that works.

It has 4 ports. Will it work for connecting two computers or should I bring it back and buy a hub? I bought it in hopes that my area would get two-way sometime this century but seeing as how it's Adelphia I don't see them upgrading one-way areas anytime soon.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » February 22, 2003, 11:32 pm

Three are prolly hub/switch ports, with one as a "WAN" port. Plug the PCs into any of the other three and you should be in business. You'll still need to do something to share files. I usually install FTP servers and clients, but only because I hate screwing with MS file sharing.

noel · Post by **noel** » February 22, 2003, 11:33 pm

You shouldn't need a hub. Most all the time, those four ports will be switched, and the routing will only occur to the WAN port (the port you plug your DSL/Cable modem into).

Just get the PCs into the same subnet. I'm hoping you understand that part because I have to run out to dinner.

Make sure they can ping each other.

Share a folder or drive on one of the computers.

Click the 'Start' button. Click on 'Run'.

Type: \\IP_ADDRESS\SHARENAME

With Ip of PC that has share, and share name. That should do what you need. Good luck.

Vezot · Post by **Vezot** » February 22, 2003, 11:47 pm

hubs pwn j00.

cid · Post by **cid** » February 22, 2003, 11:49 pm

Vezot wrote:hubs pwn j00.

Fuck off

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 23, 2003, 4:00 pm

Well will be next week sometime before I can try it now. Had a slight accident and somehow ruined my 512mb memory module. Had to switch to emergency backup computer until FedEx brings me more memory.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 27, 2003, 2:34 am

Making progress. I can get out on the Internet with the laptop via WinProxy through the Win98 machine. Still having problems trying to share resources between the two though. Subnets are the same on both.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » February 27, 2003, 2:46 am

You shouldn't need WinProxy to get out. Just use the 192.x.x.x address space listed in Aranuil's post. Setup the router as like 192.168.1.1 then set a static IP for your Win98 machine of 192.168.1.2 with the gatway being 192.168.1.1 and the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. When you connect the laptop on W2K just create a separate network connection for your ethernet card with an address of 192.168.1.3 then they should be able to share...

Of course if the D-Link will do DHCP just set the Win98 and Win2K to both use DHCP and set the gatway as the IP of the router and you should be good to go. I have some friend who had problems with the D-link so I'm not sure what it's capable of. However the LinkSys routers seem to work great (using one myself

) If you get stumped just shoot me an email.

Cheers!
Marb

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » February 27, 2003, 11:37 am

all the shit that marbus just typed is set by doing:

right click on "My Network Places"
choose properties
click on TCP/IP under your network adapter and select "Properties"

sorry if that is being pedantic, but maybe it is useful

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » February 27, 2003, 11:43 am

Getting a Win2K machine to see shares on a Win98 machine can be a real PITA. The browse functions don't seem to work right. Even when you can ping from one to another, you often can't see or use folders across the network.

Just for clarification, you have both PC's plugged into the router, which in turn leads to your modem? Or is the modem internal to one of the PC's?

Also, you might pull up a command line and try:

netuse //ipaddress/foldername z:

where ipaddress is the address of the 98 machine. Make sure the folder you want to access has a name of less than 8 characters.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » February 27, 2003, 12:17 pm

Hmm did something before going to bed now it doesn't work. If I have it plugged into the router it gets a DHCP from there so when I try using the cable modem to connect it gets hung up at the 'Receiving DHCP' part. Soon as I figure out what Marbus said I'll try that.

Just for clarification, you have both PC's plugged into the router, which in turn leads to your modem?

No. Things would be simpler if that were the case.

Or is the modem internal to one of the PC's?

Yes. And to make things more interesting it's a one-way cable modem. Meaning I also have an external dial-up modem in the mix. So for adapters I have one for PPP, one for cable modem and one for network card.

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » February 27, 2003, 12:26 pm

Ugh.

Well, one thing that's going to cause problems is having dynamic addressing going on. Again, for some reason 2K machines have trouble browsing 98 machines and DHCP complicates the matter even more.

A one-way cable connection? First time I havew ever heard of it. Hrmm....

Ok, so how are the two machines connected? If you don't have an external modem to add in, all you really need is a crossover cable between the two PC's.

Any reason you can't statically address them?