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Lets stop derailing threads :)

OK, I tested the plugins you mentioned and they seem to be broken as far as getting installed through the SVN installer. I tracked some down from the authors site, but same thing. The issue with plugins is that they are basically scaping content off websites. So when the website changes, poof the plugin breaks. The developers of the plugins are at fault for is not keeping up with their plugins and making sure they are updated. This is a reason I don't really bother much with plugins.

I also have to see which ones require the Veoh-Proxy as some plugins won't work without it running.

TV Shack - was reported recently as being broken due to changes to the website. So it should hopefully be fixed soon.
Veoh - probably requires the proxy.
Animeseed - this isn't working for me.

If you want an anime one that seems to be working try PhoAnimev2 from http://code.google.com/p/voinage-xbmc-p ... loads/list

The ones I have that worked are

Apple Movie Trailers Lite
CNN
ESPN
Mythbusters
YouTube

But again, I really don't use them due to all the breaking when the sites change. Plus I'm an HD snob :)
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I would just like to say that XBMC so far has worked "out of the box" on my HTPC. My wife can operate it, which is proof that a retarded monkey can watch movies using this system. =P
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Same here. My priorities for using it are for playing my Movies and TV Shows and I really don't care much for any of the plugins especially since because of what they are they are always at the mercy of the websites they are scraping content from. So to me they are just a waste of time and unreliable. Now, if plugin developers had some sort of arrangement with the websites, then it would be a different story. My wife is able to operate it as well which in the end is the true test of usability. I only posted the plugin info to help Winnow confirm if they were working or not.
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XBMC is borderline useful. It's really much faster just to place your movies and TV shows in well named folders and use directory opus to access them. You get much faster access and a hell of a lot better video player app than the one built into XBMC.

If not crashing, XBMC opens instantly for me with the new SSD HD so it's not much of a time waste but it still buggy and don't like to use it full screen as it bogs down the rest of the system that way.

Half the plug-ins are broke (not an exaggeration). You can make excuses for them but that's the big reason for choosing it over boxee. Boxee's plugins actually work plus they have official partnerships in the works. As Boxee comes out of Alpha and into Beta, I'm sure it will continue to be more polished and refined than XBMC.

I'll use XBMC for the movies I have and TV series for now although the movie controls and player blow.

The CBS plugin demonstrates that 720p content is easily streamed over the net. The XBMC player is so bad though. Can't stand it compared to just about any other player for the PC out there. As long as you have all of your TV and Movies titled correctly and are a no nonsense viewer, XBMC is not bad but you'll want to go for Boxee if you want the official plug-in content from Netflix, etc in the future. There were several sites already streaming the new Harry Potter Movie.

Playing around with the plug-ins did demonstrate how much free TV is out there for both movies and TV. You may not be able to get it though the crappy XBMC plug-ins but you can get it by going directly to those websites.
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It's really much faster just to place your movies and TV shows in well named folders and use directory opus to access them. You get much faster access and a hell of a lot better video player app than the one built into XBMC.
I just want to see you do that sitting on your couch with a remote control. Try searching for genre, actors, studios, etc with Directory Opus...
If not crashing...
When exactly does it crash on you? Mine only crashes for one thing and I got around that very easily. What version are you running? Where did you get it from? I run mine on top of Vista (which is as bad an OS as you can use) and I don't have any issues with it.
it still buggy and don't like to use it full screen as it bogs down the rest of the system that way.
Again because you are using it for something else than what it is intended for. You want a pure desktop app. XBMC primary use is as a front end for an HTPC in your living room/home theater connected to your TV. You really need to get passed that in your head. Hell even Boxee says the same thing right smack on the front page "Designed for the TV using a Remote Control ".
You can make excuses for them but that's the big reason for choosing it over boxee. Boxee's plugins actually work.
Architecturally , the plugin system is the same. But support wise, Boxee has much better support from developers as they have a lot of in house devs working on them vs XBMC who are currently preoccupied with developing the DVR and revamping the library. So yeah, if I were to compare them based on this I'd say Boxee plugins blow away XBMC simply because they have dedicated devs working constantly to keep the plugins working. But they still break for the same exact reasons they break on XBMC. For example Hulu, who is constantly fighting to keep 3rd party systems from accessing their content.
I'll use XBMC for the movies I have and TV series for now although the movie controls and player blow.
Why? because you want to use your mouse? It has the same controls as anything on a DirecTV or cable DVR and more. Play, Pause, Stop, Fast Forward, Rewind. Even has small and large jumps forward and backwards. Now you're just looking for shit to bitch about hehe. Boxee has the same controls.
Can't stand it compared to just about any other player for the PC out there. As long as you have all of your TV and Movies titled correctly and are a no nonsense viewer, XBMC is not bad
No one else I know has run to all the issues that you claim. Every one of my friends that runs XBMC has not run into any major issues with it. They all have their library setup correctly and working. The only issue one of them runs into is with rare TV shows which even Boxee can't help because they can't even be found in the TV databases. But again, we all use it for one thing only, to play our movies and tv shows through our TVs and that's it.

BTW, overall I still think XBMC looks way nicer than Boxee thanks to XBMC skins. I personally use the Media Stream skin. Remember they have different layouts besides the default one. But hey, we should all be rejoicing. The end users like us are the ones that ultimately win having all these options out there.
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Some shots of the iPhone XBMC app:

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I'm sure Boxee's will eventually look nicer but I've used this and it's pretty nice if using XBMC. (not as nice as a mouse)
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Preview is your friend :) all 5 images look the same.

But I assume these are the images that you wanted to link.
http://www.xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53824

What exactly is the point of a iPhone app for XBMC? Kinds of just stupid and pointless. Who isn't going to either have a remote or a wireless keyboard/mouse combo for their TV.
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valryte wrote:Preview is your friend :) all 5 images look the same.

But I assume these are the images that you wanted to link.
http://www.xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53824

What exactly is the point of a iPhone app for XBMC? Kinds of just stupid and pointless. Who isn't going to either have a remote or a wireless keyboard/mouse combo for their TV.

They look fine to me!

What is the point of anything besides using a basic mouse? It's a PC app. #1 input device would be a mouse, which XBMC has horrific support for. Next, you may as well us an iPhone to control XBMC and save buying a gay remote. If I wasn't using a mouse, I'd use the iPhone app any day over a lame remote. It's a shame XBMC coders don't support the mouse.

I'm sure Boxee will have better support in the future for everything possible. Yay Boxee! Boxee Boxee Boxee!
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They look fine to me!
LOL, I should have SS it so you could see it. It was like 5 black images with Appulous logo on it!
Next, you may as well us an iPhone to control XBMC and save buying a gay remote.
Hey, my remote takes much offense to that statement, it's not gay it just knows how to look good! Like anyone serious enough to put together a home theater that has an HTPC and a media server feeding it movies and tv shows isn't going to have a decent programmable remote!
I'd use the iPhone app any day over a lame remote.
My lame remote can turn on my TV, turn on my AV receiver, turn on either my DVR or blu-ray player or turn on my xbox 360 (the HTPC is always on), and switch it all to the correct inputs with a flick of one button and it has pretty pictures too! Let me see your stinking mouse do that! HA! :)

Sorry, but an iPhone app that can control ANY media center is as useful as one that shows a roll of toilet paper so you can wipe your ass with it!
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Remotes suck. Mouse ftw. Retarded that a computer app doesn't at least fully support the mouse.
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Remotes suck. Mouse ftw. Retarded that a computer app doesn't at least fully support the mouse.
Oh don't you start on that shit too bitch! It does work (I use it all the time) Winnow is just retarded :)
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valryte wrote:Winnow is just retarded :)
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Im going to start a new offshoot project

XBMCTFSFM

Xbox Media Center That Fully Supports a Fucking Mouse

It will have the most basic of mouse support like being able to click on the progress bar to skip to a specific part of a movie.


....revolutionary!

You'd think every other video player for the PC would have this feature...wait....they do!
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Hold on, let me get the violin out for you...

You know, if you spent even a fraction of the time you do bitching and moaning posting on the XBMC forum, maybe one of those developers who works on XBMC for free might actually listen to you and add it in one of the updates...hell who knows, maybe I might be the one to add it for you...

Now for my imitation of Winnow on Boxee...

Login Prompt
ok, looks pretty straight forward just like any other login dialog window I've seen countless times before.
So I typed my username and hit tab...wtf, why doesn't it not move to the next field...tab tab tab, wtf..every other login dialog lets me move to the next field with tab!
Fine, ctrl-tab...Boxee is so special...
So I enter my password...and hit enter...wtf, it pops up a keyboard! WTF, I'm already typing on a keyboard! Why do I need a keyboard on my screen too!

Lets play a video

Ah look a nice video time line... let me skip the beginning by clicking somewhere in the middle of the progress bar...
Why won't it skip forward to where I click?!?!?

Piece of shit Boxee, the mouse doesn't work, it's no fucking better than XBMC!

Boxee! Boxee! Boxee!...oh wait fk, its the same shit...um...Directory Opus! Directory Opus! Directory Opus!!!


PS. This shit is getting old, we need something new to bitch about...
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all of those gripes make sense. lol.
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