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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:You would probably be surprised if we had some sort of political questionairre.
http://politicalcompass.org

Lets see where we all land on it...

It doesn't focus on localized politics, but instead tries to gauge general ideological leanings to arrive at a conclusion (libertarian/authoritarian, liberal/conservative).
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Xatrei wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:You would probably be surprised if we had some sort of political questionairre.
http://politicalcompass.org

Lets see where we all land on it...

It doesn't focus on localized politics, but instead tries to gauge general ideological leanings to arrive at a conclusion (libertarian/authoritarian, liberal/conservative).
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

My dot lines up almost perfectly with Gandhi and the Dalai Lama.
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Here's mine, which should not surprise anyone:

Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82

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The last time I took this was a few years ago. Since then I've drifted further into the 3rd quadrant by about a point in each direction. I'm a good 5 points to the left of where I was the first time I took this about 5 years ago. I've spent a lot of time reading since then, and many of my economic beliefs have evolved quite a bit.
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Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62


To be fair there were a few questions where I felt I did not agree or disagree with the question that would have put me a little more to the right. And of course there were zero 2nd Amendment questions.....
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We're closer than I thought we would be Kilmoll. The big question is why are you such an asshole all the time when it comes to politics?
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Economic Left/Right: -1.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92

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Kilmoll leans to the left of me! :shock:
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Because where we differ, we differ greatly. And as I said before, they do not have any 2nd Amendment questions on that thing...which would definitely adjust me over to the right on that axis by about the amount it shows me left now. And I have little patience because of the tendency for certain people to dogpile. And you have an extremly high percentage of Cartalas style posters now. And you have Nick. And I get lumped in as an ultra right wing wack job redneck, when I truly am not and it kind of sets me off a bit.
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To be fair to kilmoll, he's not an ultra right wing wack job redneck. The use of the word ultra is going too far!
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Sylvus wrote:Economic Left/Right: -1.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92

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Kilmoll leans to the left of me! :shock:

Well I don;t think the test is entirely an accurate guage. I think the authoritarian/libertarian line would be accurate, but I believe with a larger sample that included 2A questions and the option for "neither agree or disagree" answers I would be slightly right of center.
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That's about right. On the macro level I'm sort of a socialist, in that I want universal health care and other broad reaching social programs enacted by our federal government (the cheapest way to do it). Socially I'm more towards the center left. Yes to death penalty, moderately for gun rights (no need for assault rifles IMO), and pro-choice, pro-gay marriage.
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Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.67


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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Because where we differ, we differ greatly. And as I said before, they do not have any 2nd Amendment questions on that thing...which would definitely adjust me over to the right on that axis by about the amount it shows me left now. And I have little patience because of the tendency for certain people to dogpile. And you have an extremly high percentage of Cartalas style posters now. And you have Nick. And I get lumped in as an ultra right wing wack job redneck, when I truly am not and it kind of sets me off a bit.
Pretty much where I stand, too.
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Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41
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To be honest I didn't know how to answer some of those questions as there was no middle ground. I always thought I'd be a little bit more towards the center.
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Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49
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I wonder how well that questionnaire works if we're all falling into the same quadrant?
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on the Y axis, I think we are mostly in the same realm. It does appear to bias left on the x axis due to no middle ground answers and the abscence of some other questions that would push people to the right. I blame xatrei.
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this is proof that questionnaires have a distinct liberal agenda!
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It's really difficult to get even slightly into the right.
You have to strongy agree/disagree on quite a few questions.


I gave centrist answers on most of the questions and strongly agree/disagree (to the right) on the religion based questions and it still put me down the middle.
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Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

I took this a couple months ago and was a little closer to center... must be just my mood today. I do find that my ambivalence with some of the questions could move me around a bit more, both on the left-right scale and the authoritarian-libertarian one.

Some questions are a little screwy to me too. Statements like "A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system." I put agree, because yes that's an advantage of the system but by the same token I don't think that makes the system desirable. Same with " 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is afundamentally a good idea". Sure I can agree with that in theory but there are definate limits to me. The one about multinationals abusing plants in developing countries I look at and go "huh?".
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miir wrote:It's really difficult to get even slightly into the right.
You have to strongy agree/disagree on quite a few questions.


I gave centrist answers on most of the questions and strongly agree/disagree (to the right) on the religion based questions and it still put me down the middle.

I went and answered it from what I imagined Rush Limbaugh might put as answers and came up with this:

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Heh, I wouldn't even know how he would answer most of those questions...
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Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21

Some of the questions were kind of poor, but nothing seemed to blatantly have an agenda.
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Lot's of questions I felt fairly neutral about, but I'm not too surprised at my position on the chart.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Because where we differ, we differ greatly. And as I said before, they do not have any 2nd Amendment questions on that thing...which would definitely adjust me over to the right on that axis by about the amount it shows me left now. And I have little patience because of the tendency for certain people to dogpile. And you have an extremly high percentage of Cartalas style posters now. And you have Nick. And I get lumped in as an ultra right wing wack job redneck, when I truly am not and it kind of sets me off a bit.
I never would have guessed Kilmoll was even right wing from our EQ days, but now reflecting back I see a similar tinfoil hat like reaction to gun issues as he had with FoH. :lol:
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Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56

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I know this is a "liberal" leaning forum but anyone else find it ironic that the Canadian posters (Miir, Forthe, myself) are further right than most of the Americans? :p

Where's Winnow's? Closer to Rush Limbaugh or Kilmoll? :twisted:
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Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72
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I think this is a stupid test. That said, I'm squarely in the middle of the left-libertarian quadrant.
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I don't know how much I trust this questionnaire. But I guess I'm exactly where I expected to be.

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Economic Left/Right: -5.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

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Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82
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I find this chart interesting:

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The candidates' positions on the plane relative to my own line up almost perfectly with my candidate preferences in last year's elections. Nader and Kucinich were my idealistic favorites, but I never got behind either of them because they were non-viable. John Edwards, prior to his scandal, was the next closest ideologically who had a viable chance at success. I was behind Edwards until it became apparent that Obama would win the nomination. The chart also serves to remind me how unrepresentative our government is when gap between the most liberal viable candidate last year (Edwards) and myself is roughly +12,+8.

I found a similar questionnaire called The Political Matrix. It adds another dimension to the questioning by providing a checkbox for you to indicate whether a given issue is important to you. For me it produced similar results to the questionnaire at Political Compass.
Economic score: -8.39
Social score: -7.83

Your score pegs you as economically socialist and socially far-leftist.

Socialists typically support heavily regulated industry and programs to aid the poor and impoverished. They often also support significant raises in taxes and minimum wage to attempt to decrease the gap between the wealthy and poor, and to ensure social equality.

Social far-leftists generally believe that the government has no business enforcing morality on most matters, instead favouring a government that intervenes only when absolutely necessary to avoid direct harm. Many social far-leftists also look negatively on the government's past attitudes toward groups they view as persecuted, although some simply oppose government intervention on utilitarianist grounds.
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I placed around where Kucinich is on that chart, but I have to say that many of the questions were idiotic when coupled with the limited answer possibilities.
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Wow, I think economically I have been more right than any of you.. and yet still quite in the middle. The libertarian weight doesn't surprise me, although I'm not "that" deep on that side either.

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I was basically -3.5 and -3.5.

I will try the other test later and see what how it compares.
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There were probably 10 questions that I flat-out disagreed with the entire premise of. Worse than "loaded questions," they basically made a statement that couldn't be answered. Like yes or no: "will you stop beating your wife?"

I was very near center, and to the right.
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I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the intent of the statements on this test. You either agree with them or not, to varying degrees. There's no "right" answer, your opinion and how strongly you feel about it merely helps to build an ideological profile.

Edit to add this from their FAQ:
Some of the questions are slanted

Most of them are slanted ! Some right-wingers accuse us of a leftward slant. Some left-wingers accuse us of a rightward slant. But it's important to realise that this isn't a survey, and these aren't questions. They're propositions - an altogether different proposition. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are more moderate. That's how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass.

Some of the propositions are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger buzzwords in the mind of the user, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.

Incidentally, our test is not another internet personality classification tool. The essence of our site is the model for political analysis. The test is simply a demonstration of it.
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Nader, Kucinich and Paul are all people I'd vote for.
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Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49
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Economic score: -5.61
Social score: -7.57

Your score pegs you as economically leftist and socially far-leftist.

Economic leftists mostly support strict economic controls and programs to assure that the poor are elevated to a higher position in society.

Social far-leftists generally believe that the government has no business enforcing morality on most matters, instead favouring a government that intervenes only when absolutely necessary to avoid direct harm. Many social far-leftists also look negatively on the government's past attitudes toward groups they view as persecuted, although some simply oppose government intervention on utilitarianist grounds.
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Xatrei wrote:I think a lot of people are misunderstanding the intent of the statements on this test. You either agree with them or not, to varying degrees. There's no "right" answer, your opinion and how strongly you feel about it merely helps to build an ideological profile.

Edit to add this from their FAQ:
Some of the questions are slanted

Most of them are slanted ! Some right-wingers accuse us of a leftward slant. Some left-wingers accuse us of a rightward slant. But it's important to realise that this isn't a survey, and these aren't questions. They're propositions - an altogether different proposition. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are more moderate. That's how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass.

Some of the propositions are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger buzzwords in the mind of the user, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.

Incidentally, our test is not another internet personality classification tool. The essence of our site is the model for political analysis. The test is simply a demonstration of it.

I may have missed people's claims that the questions were slanted. I just said some were stupid. There were a few that too many other questions could come up on, but there were still only the four options. If this is the type of analytical tool used today, it is no fucking wonder why nobody can get anything right.
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Re: Political Questionnaire

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Ok, first of all, my response wasn't directed to anyone in particular, so I'm not sure why you're being so defensive, bordering on hostile. Secondly, regardless of whether someone thinks the question is silly or slanted isn't really the point. I chose to quote their response to the "slanted" accusation because I thought it went a ways towards providing an explanation of their methodology and why they chose to use these specific positions in the manner which they did. In that regard, I think it's totally relevant. I'm not saying it's a perfect test. I'm sure that there are any number of legitimate questions or issues that can be raised with it by persons with a sociological, political science or statistical analysis background, I just thought that the most common criticism that I've seen leveled here seems to be misplaced and is explained rather well in the FAQ that I linked, and in the response that I quoted in particular.
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