Captain America: The First Avenger

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 8, 2008, 3:32 am

The rumor mill is already churning. My favorite part is bolded.

Matthew McConaughey is rumored to be the front runner for Marvel's early 2011 superhero project "The First Avenger: Captain America" reports Cinema Blend.

The character's real name is Steve Rogers, a sickly young man who was enhanced to the peak of human perfection by an experimental serum in order to aid the United States war effort during the Second World War.

The character remains one of the few of Marvel's most popular characters yet to have been turned into a feature film (not including the odious 1990 low-budget direct-to-video feature). In many ways it still faces much difficulty due to the nature of the uber-patriotic character in a modern post-Iraq world which has become far more critical of America's involvement on the global stage than ever before.

The solution seems to be repositioning the character and placing the emphasis on his role as the leader of 'The Avengers'. The character will team up with Iron Man, Hulk and Thor in that film opening a few weeks later in July 2011.

I think we'll need some photo heavy Kwon comparisons to see if this is a good match.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 9:54 am

I like McConaughey a lot (esp. in 'A Time to Kill'), but not really for the role of Captain America. I just don't see it.

I'd heard in the past Paul Walker was in the running, but I think he looks too young. I could see Matt Damon doing it, but I doubt he would. Pitt would be a good choice, but I doubt he would, and I think Kwon is gonna have issues with his legs again.

Cap really isn't an abnormally sized guy, but he should be pretty ripped/well defined. He should have blonde hair/blue eyes and be about 6' tall.

In my mind, I haven't come up with an ideal actor to play him yet.

One other thing. I've see the 'whether or not it's a good idea to make a Captain America movie' topic being bandied about with consideration to the current global climate. Anyone that knows the character knows that he's not about blindly following orders. He's much more about the American dream/ideals, which I think a lot of the world can get behind.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 8, 2008, 10:17 am

Yeah, agree - I don't see Matthew McConaughey as Cap.

Neal McDonough could do it, but he'd have to bulk up...

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » May 8, 2008, 10:43 am

Vin Diesel!

I wonder if they will put in the others like Hank and Janet Pym or Hawkeye or Scarlet Witch or Wonderman and Vision?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 8, 2008, 11:03 am

I'm surprised they are still going to call it Captain America after the nonsense with GI Joe.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » May 8, 2008, 11:28 am

Bubba Grizz wrote:Vin Diesel!

Speaking of being MIA.. He's a bit too bulky imo for CA. And I really don't want to see him in tights. CA has a really ghey costume, it's going to be hard to pull off well.

Off topic!
In March 2006, Diesel stated that he was working on a sequel to The Chronicles of Riddick which as of 2008 is still in pre-production stages. In 2008 his upcoming film release is the science-fiction action thriller Babylon A.D. He is also rumored to be starring as Dominic in the fourth sequel of The Fast and The Furious, titled Fast and Furious which will be released in June 2009.

Who knew? - Diesel has played Dungeons & Dragons for over twenty years and wrote the foreword for the commemorative book 30 Years of Adventure: A Celebration of Dungeons & Dragons. In the 30th Anniversary of Dungeons and Dragons issue of Dragon Magazine, they examine the fact that Diesel played Dungeons and Dragons, and reveal that he has a tattoo of his character's name, "Melkor," on his back.

WoW - According to an interview with Curt Schilling, Vin Diesel is huge a fan of World of Warcraft, on account of installing a computer game system on one of his cars for this purpose.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 8, 2008, 11:38 am

Siji wrote:
Bubba Grizz wrote:Vin Diesel!
Speaking of being MIA.. He's a bit too bulky imo for CA. And I really don't want to see him in tights. CA has a really ghey costume, it's going to be hard to pull off well.

Vin will be out in a movie this summer called Babylon A.D. It's a post apocolyptic Children of Men/Johnny Pnemonic type plot. I haven't heard a whole lot about it yet. Anyway, Diesel fans will have that to look forward to. I'm sure he'll kick a lot of future ass in it.

I think McConaughey would make a really good Steve Rogers. He's the closest I can think of to an actor that fits the bill. I also agree with the costume issue. Capt. America's outfit would look uber horrible if presented on screen. They'll face the same issure the X-men creaters were facing when bringing them to the big screen. The last thing you want to do is make these characters look ridiculous. Generally, comic movies have had to alter the costumes in one way or another.

Btw, I read on another movie forum where someone attributed the success of Iron Man and Spiderman to the fact that they looked exactely like thier comic book versions. I guess I never really thought about it, but it was an interesting point IMO.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 11:48 am

The classic Cap costume would look horrible, but the Ultimate Cap costume would be just fine.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » May 8, 2008, 12:53 pm

noel wrote:The classic Cap costume would look horrible, but the Ultimate Cap costume would be just fine.

Yes, definitely.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 8, 2008, 1:09 pm

I think the costume is up for creative interpretation. Most people couldn't describe Cap's outfit(s) in any real detail. It's the sheild that people associate with the character, and I don't really see how anyone could fuck that up.

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » May 8, 2008, 1:17 pm

Captain America is better left in comics and not put on the silver screen. It just doesnt translate well to live action at all.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 8, 2008, 1:22 pm

Momopi wrote:Captain America is better left in comics and not put on the silver screen. It just doesnt translate well to live action at all.

People have said that about comic book movies for ages, from Hellboy to Superman, and have been proven wrong time and again. I think that with today's special effects and a good script/cast, anything is possible.

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » May 8, 2008, 1:37 pm

Is possible but not probable. The character himself just isn't made for movies, even the comics with him are just so so storywise. I will admit the ultimate version of him is more entertaining but there are better stories/characters to be had for making movies IE sandman, Y the last man etc.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 3:11 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:I don't really see how anyone could fuck that up.

Do you see NOW?

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 3:13 pm

Momopi wrote:Is possible but not probable. The character himself just isn't made for movies, even the comics with him are just so so storywise. I will admit the ultimate version of him is more entertaining but there are better stories/characters to be had for making movies IE sandman, Y the last man etc.

Momo, I appreciate your opinion and enjoy your posts with one small exception...

WE GET IT, YOU WANT A SANDMAN MOVIE. WRITE A LETTER TO WARNER BROS. AND GOOD LUCK.

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » May 8, 2008, 3:17 pm

was just using it as an example, the point i was making is that capn isnt so interesting for fans in general. Historal sales of captain america comics proves this.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 3:19 pm

I'd bet you any amount of money that Captain America comics have sold more than Iron Man comics.

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » May 8, 2008, 3:26 pm

That is very true, you have me there. Not an entirely fair comparison since capn has been around since 1941. I do admit I would have said the same thing about Iron Man previously but it really did translate amazingly to movies. I'll remain doubtful for the captain though. On a side note, how come disney doesn't make anymore cartoon movies that hit the theaters and only puts out pixar things?

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » May 8, 2008, 3:29 pm

I would point you to Meet the Robinsons. That was a Disney film and Pixar had nothing to do with it.
(Great movie btw)
Enchanted had some animation to it as well.

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » May 8, 2008, 3:32 pm

You know what I mean, like a full length feature film IE Lion king. I kinda miss movies like Emp new groove and Atlantis. Thinking about the captain thing, I guess if they did a WWII setting and put him up against red skull with good actors it can be good.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 4:00 pm

Lilo and Stitch, Pochahantas, Mulan, etc. (there've been others but I'm honestly not that up on the Disney stuff)

I think the thing you have to remember about a character like Captain America is that even though the character might not have as much depth or as many layers as someone like Batman, you can always do at least one movie with their origin. Captain America's origin if it's done well could actually be a pretty good movie imho. As far as Captain America goes though, you'd have to admit that he's in a class of Superheroes more on Par with Batman/Superman/Spiderman than some of Marvel's other movie ventures: Daredevil, Punisher, and now they're making Ant-Man?!?!?!

If your position is that a Captain America is unmerited, I'm sure you'll share my confusion as to who in the world (other than Stan Lee) has any interest in an Ant-Man movie. That honestly just boggles my mind.

Momopi · Post by **Momopi** » May 8, 2008, 4:16 pm

noel wrote:If your position is that a Captain America is unmerited, I'm sure you'll share my confusion as to who in the world (other than Stan Lee) has any interest in an Ant-Man movie. That honestly just boggles my mind.

Its going to get to where they make a movie about any comic book character as long as people will go see it no matter how watered down and terrible the movies get.
Ant-Man? Really? Might as well make a beta ray bill movie or maybe a movie about Adam Warlock ugh! Honestly now why in the world Ant-Man?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 8, 2008, 4:30 pm

Captain America > Iron Man

but they did screw up Captain America recently. Maybe this Skull War "reset" will fix things.

You don't kill Cap. He punched Hitler in the jaw in his very first issue. He's a legend.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 8, 2008, 5:12 pm

Winnow wrote:Captain America > Iron Man

but they did screw up Captain America recently. Maybe this Skull War "reset" will fix things.

You don't kill Cap. He punched Hitler in the jaw in his very first issue. He's a legend.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I think you could do a really legitimate movie on his origin, starting when he was a bright but kind of sickly/frail kid, and going on to the Super Soldier Serum thing, with a little Hitler Jaw punch, and then moving on to the rocket scene and ending the movie there. The main thing would be to convey how deeply he cares for the US ideals.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » June 14, 2008, 1:06 pm

Leonardo DiCaprio is apparently the favourite and Brad Pitt the back-up choice for Captain America in the upcoming superhero flick.

That is the latest casting rumors for Captain America. I think one of best things to happen to comic book movies was the attraction to the genre by serious, well known actors. With the run away success of Iron Man, I'm hoping DiCaprio would show some interest in the project.

I cannot help but think of the Avengers spin off, with Norton, DiCaprio, and Robert Downy Jr. That sounds pretty bad-ass to me, and that's even before Thor has been cast!

What do others think about DiCaprio as the Captain?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 14, 2008, 1:40 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:What do others think about DiCaprio as the Captain?

I don't think there could be many choices out there that would be worse than him.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 14, 2008, 5:44 pm

I like DiCaprio's work but don't see him as Captain America. I don't picture his voice as Caps. Captain America isn't a pretty boy like DiCaprio or Pitt. He's more of a "perfect physical specimen".

Some other choices:

When I was a kid, I read lots of comic books. I mostly was into the Marvel comics. My favorite character, by far, was Captain America. Today, there is rumor that Matthew McConaughy may be cast as Captain America. Here are the things I would rather Marvel do than cast this greasy pothead redneck Texan as Captain America:

* Kick me in the crotch.
* Kick my dog.
* Give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it.

Marvel…you’ve been warned.

Actors that have the chin to be Cap:

Sean Bean: (would be a good Thor actually)

Kevin McKidd would actually make a better Captain America than Thor:

I like McKidd's stoic acting style as a good fit for stoic Captain America.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 14, 2008, 6:11 pm

DiCaprio.. really? Why not just have a black guy play the part? Let's say.. Todd Bridges.

Whatchoo talkin' about Cap!?

noel · Post by **noel** » June 14, 2008, 8:00 pm

DiCaprio is really too pretty. He's a good actor, but he lacks the physical shape (to date) to play almost any super-hero. Maybe as Robin or Bucky he'd be well suited.

I think Pitt would actually be really good. He's not always a pretty boy, and I think he's got the right body-type. Then again, I'm probably not able to give an unbiased opinion about whether or not Pitt should play Cap. My favorite actor and favorite comic book character...

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 14, 2008, 8:12 pm

noel wrote: I think Pitt would actually be really good. He's not always a pretty boy, and I think he's got the right body-type. Then again, I'm probably not able to give an unbiased opinion about whether or not Pitt should play Cap. My favorite actor and favorite comic book character...

Well there's a surprise!

Pitt might pull off the physical appearance but he gives off the "too cool for school" type vibe where Captain America is a more straight forward, honest Abe, non sex symbol, proud/patriotic type personality. That might hurt in the box office because Captain America really isn't going to attract the female audience.

If some females would be kind enough to list the top five super heroes (non lesbian or alien encounters) they'd want to sleep with, I don't think Cap would make the list. He's just not the wild man type although he's awesome as a superhero.

From reading forums over the years it would look something like:

1. Gambit
2. Everyone else

noel · Post by **noel** » June 14, 2008, 8:28 pm

Hey, at least I'm honest about it.

Anyway, just looking around on the new while I sit here watching Tiger struggle with his knee, I found the following (not much there other than the timing of the movie and the setting, and a tiny bit on Thor and Iron Man 2):

Digital Spy wrote:Marvel chief discusses 'Captain America'
Saturday, May 24 2008, 08:02 BST
By Simon Reynolds, Entertainment Reporter
[Show]
Marvel's upcoming The First Avenger: Captain America will be a World War II period piece, according to Sci Fi Wire.

The studio's president Kevin Feige revealed that the film, scheduled for a May 6, 2011 release, will lead into the Avengers movie, following six weeks later.

In the comic book series, the Captain America character was an experimental soldier for the US during World War II. He was later frozen in suspended animation and then revived by superhero team the Avengers in the present day.

Feige also confirmed Matthew Vaughn's exit from Thor, but said a new director would be in place "later this summer".

Speaking about the film's potential setting in the mythical world of Asgard, Feige said: "The film is not all Asgard, but it will be a big chunk in Asgard."

Negotiations are also reportedly underway with Jon Favreau to direct a sequel to this summer's Iron Man.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » June 15, 2008, 5:00 am

Siji wrote:DiCaprio.. really? Why not just have a black guy play the part? Let's say.. Todd Bridges.

Whatchoo talkin' about Cap!?

Actually that wouldnt surprise me all that much, after we had Michael Clarke Duncan as Wilson Fisk/Kingpin in Daredevil.

I think we should go for some more ethnic diversity here. Jackie Chan as Captain American

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 15, 2008, 7:33 am

Darn, who is doing this crappy casting????

Matthew is too tiny to play the epic legendary Captain America.

Brad Pitt doesn't cut it either, too skinny legs.

DICAPRIO? DiCaprio looks like a fag! With an all round skinny-fat physique! He can't play ANY kind of superhero!

They need to find a good actor with Arnold Schwartzeneggerian-esque proportions a la 70's.

Gunther Schlierkamp could play Cap with someone dubbing him.

Haven't people seen Cap America in the comics? He ain't no frickin' Spiderman!

We are talking about the SuperSoldier here.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 15, 2008, 7:40 am

Gunther is a dead ringer for Steve Rogers though, he could do it.

Gunter

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 15, 2008, 8:38 am

Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:Gunther is a dead ringer for Steve Rogers though, he could do it.

Gunter

That dude's got some crazy vein patterns on his right leg near his knee. Looks like a maze!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 16, 2008, 4:21 am

For those who envision Kevin McKidd as Cap America, here is Titus Pullo (Ray Stevenson) from Rome as Punisher in the third Punisher movie!

PUNISHER 2 : WAR ZONE (2008) with Ray Stevenson

Could you ever foresee Titus Pullo becoming Marvels Punisher?

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 16, 2008, 7:56 am

Cap America VS Red Skull

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cskfsstJmUs

Sartori · Post by **Sartori** » June 16, 2008, 11:15 am

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 16, 2008, 11:27 pm

Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:PUNISHER 2 : WAR ZONE (2008) with Ray Stevenson

Seriously - that looks like shit. It looks like a crappy straight to DVD video. I'm not a fan of switching main characters between movies, but even that aside there wasn't a single thing in that trailer that I thought was interesting looking or new.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 17, 2008, 1:33 am

Kinda interesting choices they've had in casting for the Punisher during the years though.

First we had Hans "Dolph" Lundgren, then we had Thomas Jane, and now Ray Stevenson.

They don't have anything in common at all!

Well at least it isnt Danny DeV playing Punisher!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 17, 2008, 1:49 am

I like Ray Stevenson but the new Punisher trailer was horrible. Shoot whoever created it. Crap like that will drive people away from the move instead of the opposite affect.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 17, 2008, 11:07 am

Kwonryu DragonFist wrote:First we had Hans "Dolph" Lundgren

He sounds like Dolph..

"This is just the beginning.." sounds like "I must crush you.."

Hammar · Post by **Hammar** » June 18, 2008, 1:10 am

Alrighty. I love comic books and the movies based off of them. Here is what I know. Ever since Marvel has more creative control over its products the movies have begun to get really good. The current rumor mill has Leonardo playing Cap, and possibly Brad Pitt (very early stages) playing Thor.

I believe Captain America is going to be pretty much just his origin story, set in WWII and end more or less with him being frozen.

The things I have heard about Thor have his story based solely in Asgard, before he comes to earth. Possibly following Loki there at some point, which would set up the first story of the avengers. That is what I have heard anyway.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 19, 2008, 1:22 am

WHAT?

DiCappriciossa as CAP AMERICA and BRAD PITT as THOR???

LOL! Did Stan Lee really approve of this!? Unbelievable!

They did cast Spiderman well though, Tobey really works as Spiderman and Willem Dafoe was perfect as Gob!

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » June 19, 2008, 10:58 am

Kwon (or a moderator)

Can we correct the spelling in the title of this thread?

Captian America -> Captain America

When spoken as written it sounds French, and that's not very much American, is it?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 19, 2008, 11:15 am

Why so much hate?!

Siji · Post by **Siji** » June 19, 2008, 9:13 pm

Hammar wrote:The current rumor mill has Leonardo playing Cap, and possibly Brad Pitt (very early stages) playing Thor.

I will see neither of these movies if those rumors are true.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » June 19, 2008, 10:25 pm

Leonardo might make a good Bucky, Cap's sidekick:

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 19, 2008, 11:34 pm

I can see him as Bucky, but not Cap.

noel · Post by **noel** » June 19, 2008, 11:58 pm

Agreed.