Huckabee vows to send all illegal aliens home
January 17, 2008
By Stephen Dinan - TIGERVILLE, S.C. — Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee yesterday continued to move to the right on immigration during this year's presidential campaign, signing a pledge to enforce immigration laws and to make all illegal aliens go home.
The pledge, offered by immigration control advocacy group Numbers USA, commits Mr. Huckabee to oppose a new path to citizenship for current illegal aliens and to cut the number of illegal aliens already in the country through attrition by law enforcement — something Mr. Huckabee said he will achieve through his nine-point immigration plan.
"Some would say it's a tough plan. It is, but it's also fair and reasonable," Mr. Huckabee said.
Mr. Huckabee signed the pledge in South Carolina, whose Saturday Republican primary is shaping up as the most important contest so far. Unlike the previous primaries and caucuses, which have been contested usually by just two candidates, four Republicans are making all-out efforts here: Mr. Huckabee, former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts.
Mr. Romney campaigned in South Carolina fresh off his Tuesday win over Mr. McCain in Michigan's primary. And though he held a lead here earlier last year, he tried to lower expectations yesterday, telling reporters that the pressure is really on Mr. McCain, who now leads in the polls here.
As the front-runner, Mr. McCain finds himself playing defense. Yesterday, he had one surrogate challenge charges on abortion and other issues from Common Sense Issues, a Colorado-based group that the Associated Press said is conducting push-polling here, and had another group of surrogates respond to charges from a group called Vietnam Veterans Against McCain.
The McCain campaign said the veterans group is circulating fliers that say Mr. McCain turned his back on fellow prisoners of war in order to receive special treatment while in captivity in Vietnam.
One issue that continues to hurt Mr. McCain here is immigration. Many voters say he supports amnesty for illegal aliens, and they point to his partnership with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat, to try to pass a bill to legalize illegal aliens.
Mr. McCain has said he "got the message" from his bill's defeat last year in the Senate — when a majority of senators voted to filibuster his bill.
He says that as a senator from a border state, he knows how to secure the borders and says border governors would have to certify that fact before a guest-worker program and legalization could go forward. But Mr. McCain still supports a pathway to citizenship, and it's not clear how different his new stance is from the bill that failed.
Mr. Huckabee has faced some of the same questions, and yesterday's pledge — signed at a press conference with Numbers USA Executive Director Roy Beck — was an effort to provide answers.
It's a major reversal from less than two months ago, when Mr. Beck told The Washington Times that Mr. Huckabee was "an absolute disaster" on immigration during his time as governor. Americans for Better Immigration, another group Mr. Beck runs, has rated Mr. Huckabee's record as "poor."
Mr. Huckabee fought for tuition breaks for illegal-alien college students, failed to complete an agreement to let state police enforce federal immigration law and criticized enforcement efforts both at the federal and state level.
But Mr. Beck yesterday said Mr. Huckabee has made a number of key promises going forward, including to not grant illegal aliens long-term legal status; to reject a guaranteed right of return for those who go home voluntarily under his nine-point plan; and to not increase green cards as a way of allowing them to come back more quickly.
"Probably, this is the strongest no-amnesty, attrition plan of any of the candidates," Mr. Beck said.
Numbers USA does not plan to endorse a candidate. The group has asked all of the candidates to sign the pledge, but Mr. Huckabee is the only one to do so.
Mr. Beck said doing so will improve Mr. Huckabee's rating on the issue, bringing him in line with Mr. Thompson, Mr. Romney and Rep. Duncan Hunter of California.
On the campaign trail, Mr. Huckabee continued tapping into the network of Christian conservatives that served him well in winning the Iowa caucuses. He signed his immigration pledge at North Greenville University, a Christian school in the state's far northwestern corner, after holding a rally with hundreds of students there.
In his speech to the students, Mr. Huckabee took a swipe at Mr. McCain on immigration, though he didn't mention the senator by name.
"I don't think electing somebody who's part of the Washington scene makes a lot of sense, because if they could've fixed it, they would have," Mr. Huckabee said. "It's the principle that says that if you're faithful in little [things], you're given responsibility over greater things. But if you're not faithful with what you have, we don't give you greater responsibility, we take that responsibility and we give it to someone who might exercise it more responsibly."
At the end of the rally, the students held a group prayer led by school President James B. Epting.
"You've got to be pleased that one who loves You is running for such an important position," Mr. Epting said in his prayer.
Huckabee officially out of the race,
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Huckabee officially out of the race,
Well, he might as well be.
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Yeah that wasn't a very smart move on his part, not that I'm surprised.
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Two things:
First, this position is not going to cost him any votes he would have been getting in the first place. Lefty Loonies were not about to vote for this guy and big money GOPers who benefit the most from cheap illegal labor know they can just cock block any attempt by him to make good on his word. Centrists already have a cornacopia of reasons not to vote for this guy. The redneck crispy vote is already voting for this guy, so stating this position is just asserting himself. At the very least, I believe he is honest about his positions, which is cause for respect and concern at the same time, in my mind, anyhow. He stands out as the one guy I would actually vote for Rudy of Hillary over, without a moment's hesitation, because I will take greedy Israeli lapdog over crazy fundy crispy any day of the week.
Second, never underestimate the Crispy vote. Jesus + Diebold has been plenty effective at getting other Mighty Righties into office, rescently. These people are organized, well programmed by their masters, and actually show up to vote, unlike a lot of us appathetic liberals or too busy/rich to care conservatives. Its not like he has a hard time demonstrating the moral highground against Crossdressing Rudy or Mitt "I can't decide who's ass I am kissing today" Romney, and he already has the illegitimate black baby groundwork paved for him by Rove, from the last primaries. Ron Paul is NEVER going to get any backing from the money people and there is no way he is going to out Jesus Huckabee. No one in the GOP can, so they are doing the next best thing and pretending they are all disciples of the latest incarnation of the GOP Jesus (Reagan) and hoping enough people forget about the original. So, in short, don't rule Huckabee out. Never underestimate the power of blind fundamentalism, especially when these nut jobs have already demonstrated how far they are willing to go to carry out their agenda.
First, this position is not going to cost him any votes he would have been getting in the first place. Lefty Loonies were not about to vote for this guy and big money GOPers who benefit the most from cheap illegal labor know they can just cock block any attempt by him to make good on his word. Centrists already have a cornacopia of reasons not to vote for this guy. The redneck crispy vote is already voting for this guy, so stating this position is just asserting himself. At the very least, I believe he is honest about his positions, which is cause for respect and concern at the same time, in my mind, anyhow. He stands out as the one guy I would actually vote for Rudy of Hillary over, without a moment's hesitation, because I will take greedy Israeli lapdog over crazy fundy crispy any day of the week.
Second, never underestimate the Crispy vote. Jesus + Diebold has been plenty effective at getting other Mighty Righties into office, rescently. These people are organized, well programmed by their masters, and actually show up to vote, unlike a lot of us appathetic liberals or too busy/rich to care conservatives. Its not like he has a hard time demonstrating the moral highground against Crossdressing Rudy or Mitt "I can't decide who's ass I am kissing today" Romney, and he already has the illegitimate black baby groundwork paved for him by Rove, from the last primaries. Ron Paul is NEVER going to get any backing from the money people and there is no way he is going to out Jesus Huckabee. No one in the GOP can, so they are doing the next best thing and pretending they are all disciples of the latest incarnation of the GOP Jesus (Reagan) and hoping enough people forget about the original. So, in short, don't rule Huckabee out. Never underestimate the power of blind fundamentalism, especially when these nut jobs have already demonstrated how far they are willing to go to carry out their agenda.
War is an option whose time has passed. Peace is the only option for the future. At present we occupy a treacherous no-man's-land between peace and war, a time of growing fear that our military might has expanded beyond our capacity to control it and our political differences widened beyond our ability to bridge them. . . .
Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
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Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
Dwight Eisenhower
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Very true...and very scary.Never underestimate the power of blind fundamentalism
Is this a guy we would want in office? Woooodamn, that is some wacky shit!"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."
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Re: Huckabee officially out of the race,
I can't remember which show I was listening to on the way home last night, but they played this quote. It scared me. This is someone I would not vote into ANY office, let alone President.Canelek wrote:Is this a guy we would want in office? Woooodamn, that is some"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."
wacky shit!
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Granted that Arkansas is in the jesus-belt, I am baffled as to how he got elected as governor. He would seem a better fit in Mississippi, where evangelical christianity flourishes like fleas on an alley cat.
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Re: Huckabee officially out of the race,
http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/ ... irrel.htmlThis morning, Mike Huckabee explained why South Carolinans love him: He shares their tastes, such as eating fried squirrels. Why, he used to bake them in his popcorn popper back in his college dorm!

MMMMMmmmmmm... Squirrel.
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He's playing to his audience. This won't hurt him at all with anyone except those who wouldn't have voted for him under any circumstances anyway. It's brownie points with a lot of the middle who are candidate shopping via sound bites..
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3085058
Huckabee's son arrested with handgun.
Women everywhere will want to date this guy if his father wins the election!
This may secure the redneck vote and wins for Huckabee all across the southern states.
Huckabee's son arrested with handgun.
Women everywhere will want to date this guy if his father wins the election!
David Huckabee, a son of Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, was arrested at an Arkansas airport Thursday after a federal X-ray technician detected a loaded Glock pistol in his carry-on luggage.
"I removed the bag and asked Mr. Huckabee if he knew what he had in the bag," Little Rock police officer Arthur Nugent wrote in a report after being summoned to a security checkpoint. "He replied he did now."
This may secure the redneck vote and wins for Huckabee all across the southern states.