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So as many of you Star Trek nerds might already know, JJ Abrams (of Lost fame) is working on the new Star Trek movie, which will focus on the early lives of Kirk and Spock. I've only had a passing interest in Star Trek, I watched a lot of TNG back in the day, and have probably seen most of the movies.

I wasn't super pumped about the new movie, until the news I heard today...
the BBC wrote:Hot Fuzz star Simon Pegg is poised to play Scotty in the new Star Trek movie.

The British comic has been offered the role of the chief engineer, played by James Doohan in the classic TV series, his manager has told BBC News.

The film, directed by Lost creator JJ Abrams, focuses on the early lives of Captain James T Kirk and Mr Spock.

Star Trek's 11th big screen outing also stars Eric Bana, Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy, and filming is due to start next month.
Oh and I also heard that John Cho (Harold from Harold and Kumar) was cast as Sulu.
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and Sylar from H E R O E S is Spock. (mentioned above as Zachary Quinto)

Looking good so far.
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No interest really in star trek, but I will have to watch due to Simon Pegg.
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If it's Star Trek w/ a greater sense of humor I'll be excited, but if it's just another Star Trek movie with a younger cast...well I'll just have to wait for critic + user reviews before I give shit.
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Keverian FireCry wrote:If it's Star Trek w/ a greater sense of humor I'll be excited, but if it's just another Star Trek movie with a younger cast...well I'll just have to wait for critic + user reviews before I give shit.
Wait for someone elses opinions? LOL
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Well, the only critic that counts is here:

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Wait for someone elses opinions? LOL
I'm not a fan of Star Trek and I don't like wasting money on crappy movies. If reviews come out and they are overwhelmingly good or bad then why shouldn't that influence whether or not I see the movie? /shrug
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Keverian FireCry wrote:
Wait for someone elses opinions? LOL
I'm not a fan of Star Trek and I don't like wasting money on crappy movies. If reviews come out and they are overwhelmingly good or bad then why shouldn't that influence whether or not I see the movie? /shrug
If you have found any critics that seem to mirror your own tastes, go for it. I have not found any which were consistent enough with my own to refer to before scheduling my theater trips.
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Boogahz wrote:
Keverian FireCry wrote:
Wait for someone elses opinions? LOL
I'm not a fan of Star Trek and I don't like wasting money on crappy movies. If reviews come out and they are overwhelmingly good or bad then why shouldn't that influence whether or not I see the movie? /shrug
If you have found any critics that seem to mirror your own tastes, go for it. I have not found any which were consistent enough with my own to refer to before scheduling my theater trips.

I don't rely on critics but getting multiple opinions in one place helps sometimes. Metacritic is good for checking out Movies, Games, Books, DVDs, TV shows, Music etc.

http://www.metacritic.com/

Movies always get much lower ratings than PC games. (because movie critics are anal bitch-bastards on the whole) so a movie rated 60 is the equivalent of a game rated 85-90. At the very least, you'll get an idea of whatever you're looking into is about and be able to track down some screenshots, movies etc to see for yourself.

I agree that you can't rely on one critic. Here's two summaries for the movie "Elizabeth: The Golden Age"

75: Expect a fast-paced, beautifully mounted and well-acted soap opera with overripe dialogue that plays fast and loose with history - just like they did in the '30s, '40s and '50s - and you won't come away disappointed.

50: It is a silly film about serious matters.

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Critics rate the movie based on their tastes. (they shouldn't, but do) In the case of Elizabeth, If the critic likes drama and isn't worried about historical accuracy, it will get a high rating, if the critic is a historian, they'll rate it lower. Problem is, you could be either so you can't rely on the critic to tell you what's good but scanning over several review summaries will give you a better idea of whether you'd like it or not.
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Boogahz wrote:If you have found any critics that seem to mirror your own tastes, go for it. I have not found any which were consistent enough with my own to refer to before scheduling my theater trips.
I've found as I get older my tastes seem to run parallel with Roger Ebert's reviews. Will there always be a complete match? No, obviously not. But still a pretty good match the majority of times. Having said that I've also went ahead and saw movies he rated badly.

When I'm still not sure if I want to waste 2 hours of my life on a crappy movie I will stop by Metacritic and see what the averages are. If they are all decidedly bad then I don't even bother with a movie. Reviewers are simply people who go see a lot of movies and get paid to write reviews. If they all hate a movie they (usually) didn't even have to pay to see then that pretty much tells me what I need to know.

Some people find reviews a good gauge and others don't. Go with what works for you.
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I will never make any decisions in my life based on what popular opinion is or isn't. Weird.
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I don't care whether or not you let friends, critics, etc. influence your decisions, but if one of your favorite films is The Postman then perhaps you need some help.

When it comes to film or other art forms there is so much great shit out there (as well as crap you should avoid wasting money on). Sometimes it helps to listen to other opinions that may point you in a direction that will provide you with more fulfilling artwork, as well as save you time and money.

Sometimes.

In your case, clearly ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.
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Keverian FireCry wrote:I don't care whether or not you let friends, critics, etc. influence your decisions, but if one of your favorite films is The Postman then perhaps you need some help.

When it comes to film or other art forms there is so much great shit out there (as well as crap you should avoid wasting money on). Sometimes it helps to listen to other opinions that may point you in a direction that will provide you with more fulfilling artwork, as well as save you time and money.

Sometimes.

In your case, clearly ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.
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WTF Midnyte...what does hardcore porn have to do with anything on this thread!? Cleanse your mind of such thoughts and get back on topic!
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Keverian FireCry wrote:
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WTF Midnyte...what does hardcore porn have to do with anything on this thread!? Cleanse your mind of such thoughts and get back on topic!
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Boog, that's a bit more hardcore than I was imagining. I was thinking of dried poop, but you sir have crossed the line.
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Keverian FireCry wrote:Boog, that's a bit more hardcore than I was imagining. I was thinking of dried poop, but you sir have crossed the line.
If you search for dp, you will probably find that it was used most frequently for death penalty in the current events forum. Actually, you can't search for dp, since there is a three character requirement on searches. I think there was actually one thread titled dp though.
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The fuck is this?
THE FUCK IS THIS?! Neither of those actors have the chops to play Kirk or Spock. I will not be going to theaters to watch this crap.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I will never make any decisions in my life based on what popular opinion is or isn't. Weird.
Bullshit. You have never once in your life watched a movie or eaten a certain food or drank a certain drink etc. off of someone's reccomendation? Thats is absurd.
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Abelard wrote:The fuck is this?
THE FUCK IS THIS?! Neither of those actors have the chops to play Kirk or Spock. I will not be going to theaters to watch this crap.

Who does have the chops then?
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Zamtuk wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I will never make any decisions in my life based on what popular opinion is or isn't. Weird.
Bullshit. You have never once in your life watched a movie or eaten a certain food or drank a certain drink etc. off of someone's reccomendation? Thats is absurd.
Of course I have. I just won't go to a drink/food critic website to see if I should eat or drink this particular food/drink item that interests me.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Of course I have. I just won't go to a drink/food critic website to see if I should eat or drink this particular food/drink item that interests me.
You misunderstand the point of a review. It's purpose is not to say what you should or should not do.
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Here's a nice rundown of the new Star Trek movie cast:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/18/fir ... star-trek/
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Abelard wrote:The fuck is this?
THE FUCK IS THIS?! Neither of those actors have the chops to play Kirk or Spock. I will not be going to theaters to watch this crap.
People said the same things about the entire LotR cast as it was announced. Oh, and X-men/Spiderman, ect.

If the writer/director/producer have done thier part, the casting is of little concern in the end.
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Looking forward to this movie!

http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/03/sim ... -star-trek

from movie blog:
Simon Pegg is always near the top of my list of Brit comedy actors. Of course most of the cast of Monty Python still holds a dearer spot, but they have history. For this relatively new addition to rank so high on a very competitive list for me speaks volumes. Pegg is just pure talent, so when I found out he was going to play Scotty on JJAbrahms Star Trek Reboot, I couldnt wait.

Cinematical shares:

It should hearten any Star Trek fan to hear Pegg’s devotion to the original Scotty, James Doohan. “Everything is just a tribute to James Doohan and it’s his role. I’m just very honoured to be able to step into his shoes. I just hope I do him proud.” He’s borrowing his wife’s “merry [Scottish] accent” for the part, but isn’t at liberty to say whether she’s a Highlander, a Lowlander or of that special Glasgow variety. “I’ll get sued,” insists Pegg.

It is good to hear him slip at least that much info out. I appreciate that they are keeping their actors tight lipped about the plot and spoilers. This fits JJ’s M.O. perfectly so it is to be expected.

But the ONE thing that the die hard trekkers have been whining about is hiring a Brit to play a Scott. Pegg can apparently pull off the accent well, and risking his own lashings he reveals that Montgomery Scott would retain his Scottish accent still leaving a little bit to mystery.

I think this is a suitable spoiler for Pegg to share, and adding his excitement for the role and the franchise, I am getting itchy to see this.
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I've never been a fan of Star Trek, in fact I've always hated it. Still, it's Abrams, so this is going to be unmisseable. The cast is fantastic as well.

Looking forward to it.
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seekrit shots of the Star Trek set:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36031

not much to see!

not sure about those uniforms!
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i'm pretty stoked, i've renewed my interest in star trek in the past 6 months...i'm going to be watching the final episode of STNG today at work. i've been watching the entire series casually since May...next up DS9, which i never really watched but a few episodes of in the past.

bummer that the movie was pushed till next summer...would have been the biggest hit of december.
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DS9 is great, and I rewatch TNG on a fairly regular basis. In fact, I think I'll go watch an episode now! Time for another good Picard one, "Chain of Command, part II".
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Kaldaur wrote:DS9 is great, and I rewatch TNG on a fairly regular basis. In fact, I think I'll go watch an episode now! Time for another good Picard one, "Chain of Command, part II".

Hmmm, the only sci-fi series I find myself watching multiple times are Firefly and the new Battlestar Galactica.

I'm looking forward to this fresh start for Star Trek though. It's one of the rare movies I'll go see in the theaters when it's released.
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Also, a trailer.
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I'd go see that.

I see Leonard Nimoy in the credits. Good that they got at least one original member in there somewhere.
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That new trailer makes me happy in the pants.
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Saw it at the Watchmen movie on Saturday. I think I scared my date away with my fits of glee. Simon Pegg as Scotty, and Karl Urban (Eomer) as McCoy...not to mention Quinto as Spock. This is going to be fantastic, even if they are shitting all over canon. Star Trek could use a little shaking up. I'm just glad Rick Berman and Brannon Braga haven't puked on this project yet.

Just looked on IMDB, and Tyler Perry is playing the "Starfleet Academy President", whatever the fuck that is. Everyone knows he's a Commandant, not a president. And second...Tyler Perry? As long as they don't put "JJ and Tyler Perry presents Star Trek" as the movie title, I'll be happy.
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