I quit.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » September 13, 2007, 3:12 am

There was really no warning or build up.

I made a list of all the obtainable upgrades and sidegrades I needed for my character, looked at the amout of farming it would require for 5 or 6 items, and said "fuck that".

I ran back to the exact spot that my character spawned on creation, then logged off. This is the same thing I did with EQ as well.

It's been over a week, and I've not had a single desire to log back in. I think I quit just in time. I wasn't sick of the game yet or logging in just to log in.

It was fun while it lasted though!

My next MMORPG will likely be 3-4 years away, when the Warhammer 40k game that Relic is working on eventually comes out. I'm taking an extended break from fantasy!

In the meantime, I have lots of RTS games to keep me busy, and I'm still eyeing a 360 at X-mas time:)

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » September 13, 2007, 8:24 am

Know the feeling, enjoy reality for a while

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » September 13, 2007, 10:21 am

i've basically quit the PVE game.. all I do now is PVP. I have 3 characters and 3 5v5 teams so it keeps me busy and I still enjoy it.. but the raiding scene is just old and I only attend progression nights

For me it will be Warhammer 40k until the Starcraft MMO comes out

Kwonryu DragonFist · September 13, 2007, 1:49 pm

Warhammer 40k!

Blood for the Bloodgod!

More skulls for the Skullthrone!

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » September 13, 2007, 1:53 pm

cadalano wrote:i've basically quit the PVE game.. all I do now is PVP. I have 3 characters and 3 5v5 teams so it keeps me busy and I still enjoy it.. but the raiding scene is just old and I only attend progression nights

For me it will be Warhammer 40k until the Starcraft MMO comes out

PvP was a great time while it lasted. Unfortunately, I aquired all my BG PvP gear in about a month or so, and I only 2v2 in arenas, so I was on my way to my 3rd piece of arena gear. We've talked about that in another thread, but needless to say, that was kind of more frustrating than fun due to class combo imbalance and the extraordinary amount of those clombos dominating the arenas I play in.

And seriously, there are a pitiful number of arena and BG maps in WoW. There's no excuse for that, especially in areanas. It's easy to get burnt out without something new to spice things up.

I hit a content roadblock with WoW. If the next expansion was right around the corner, I wouldn't have quit. But when it's at least 6-8 months away, that's an awful long time to expect a player to putter around trying desperately to keep themselves busy.

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » September 13, 2007, 2:09 pm

I also only PVP, and have been seeing my play time drop off considerably due to having almost full PVP gear (need 1 more arena piece), and lack of pvp partners who want to get resilience gear.

6-8 months on the expansion? I feel that is really optimistic... 2.2 still isn't out, 2.3 has a raid zone in addition to other improvements, so it will probably take even longer, and I think there are plans to have 1-2 more patches in between 2.3 and the expansion (I think they said that retuned naxx would be in the patch before the expansion). I'd say the expansion is probably 1.5 years away with delays and patches.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » September 13, 2007, 2:27 pm

I quit a few months ago after getting a BE pally to 70. I can't stand raiding anymore and I've never liked WoW's PVP.

I think I'm done with WoW and future expansions for good now.

Post by **Xouqoa** » September 13, 2007, 4:39 pm

Can I have your stuff?

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » September 13, 2007, 6:13 pm

I never played WoW and haven't played EQ since 2003-4 ish. Though some friends are trying to get me to try a trial version of WoW. I'm resisting so far but I don't know how much peer pressure I can ward.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » September 13, 2007, 6:58 pm

Leveling in WoW is a lot of fun once, maybe twice, and three or more times if you switch to an opposing faction. After reaching the highest attainable level there really isn't much to do unless you enjoy doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 13, 2007, 7:50 pm

Spang wrote:Leveling in WoW is a lot of fun once, maybe twice, and three or more times if you switch to an opposing faction. After reaching the highest attainable level there really isn't much to do unless you enjoy doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

That sounds a lot like EQ.

Which leads me to continually wonder: Why did a lot of EQ players go over to WoW when it was just more of the same?

Seems to me all MMORPGs (and RPGs in general) are pretty much the same: Kill stuff, loot, level, repeat. So what's the big appeal of starting over in another game with more of the same after doing that the previous 4+ years? And if one got tired of that game wouldn't it stand to reason the same thing would happen with the new game? So why spend all that time doing what basically amounts to the same thing? Guess there are some things we weren't meant to know!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » September 13, 2007, 8:09 pm

DoN came out and offered up some soloable content. I got hooked on it and ate it up like a fat kid at a buffet. Once the new content (that didn't require a group or raid) was done, since there were no new AAs or levels to obtain, I moved onto WoW. It had a lot more soloable content but not much after you dinged 60 and later 70. I had gotten tired of looking for a group or waiting for a raid in EQ. WoW allowed me to enjoy a game without being dependent on a group and it was a lot of fun, even leveling up a 2nd and 3rd character.

I don't have a problem doing the same thing over and over so long as I'm bettering my character. The repetitiveness of WoW yielded me faction and not much else. I thought Vanguard might be the way to go but the flame slowly died. If I could find a game with the content and AAs of EQ and the soloability of WoW I would be in MMO heaven.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » September 14, 2007, 2:34 am

Aslanna wrote:
Spang wrote:Leveling in WoW is a lot of fun once, maybe twice, and three or more times if you switch to an opposing faction. After reaching the highest attainable level there really isn't much to do unless you enjoy doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
That sounds a lot like EQ.

Which leads me to continually wonder: Why did a lot of EQ players go over to WoW when it was just more of the same?

Seems to me all MMORPGs (and RPGs in general) are pretty much the same: Kill stuff, loot, level, repeat. So what's the big appeal of starting over in another game with more of the same after doing that the previous 4+ years? And if one got tired of that game wouldn't it stand to reason the same thing would happen with the new game? So why spend all that time doing what basically amounts to the same thing? Guess there are some things we weren't meant to know!

If you break it down to it's essentials, it is the same. It's a different and improved way of accomplishing the same basic goals that make new games more appealing. These vary from person to person, but game mechanics and graphic improvements are amoung the top reasons to jump on another treadmill.

All humans do is eat, shit/piss, sleep, and fuck. There's a lot more do do inbetween those basic functions though.

The same concept applies to MMORPGs, RTS games, and most other game generes. It's not the end goal, it's how much fun you have on the way there.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 14, 2007, 3:45 am

I wish more people had a sensible attitude like you. If you're not having fun on the WoW treadmill, then quit. The cessation of the flow of them dolla dolla bills is the only thing that will have any effect on a corporate machine like Blizzard. Hope you filled out the exit survey so we don't end up with another expansion full of raid content exactly 2% of the population will see.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 14, 2007, 2:54 pm

I started up again. Not because of the game itself (I consider VG and Lotro to be superior games overall) but because I missed the people in my guild. If I hadn't liked those people so much I'd probably be mmo free again. As it is I play a few hours here and there and feel no pressure to level if I don't want to.

Kwonryu DragonFist · September 14, 2007, 3:14 pm

When there is no pressure, all is usually well!

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » September 14, 2007, 4:26 pm

I re-picked up wow mid-july to play with a friend again, averaging... several hours a day. i went back to school here for my senior year about 3 weeks ago and haven't loaded the game more than 3 or 4 times. just doesn't feel right.

I got into the Euro (lulz) Warhammer (not 40k) beta.. and it's looking pretty good. it's not very polished yet and definitely has room for improvements (uh.. video settings/options anyone?), but hopefully that'll turn out nicely. In the short time i've had it, I've enjoyed it.

And no, i'm not sucking any dev cock this time around.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 14, 2007, 6:16 pm

Mr Bacon wrote:I re-picked up wow mid-july to play with a friend again, averaging... several hours a day. i went back to school here for my senior year about 3 weeks ago and haven't loaded the game more than 3 or 4 times. just doesn't feel right.

I got into the Euro (lulz) Warhammer (not 40k) beta.. and it's looking pretty good. it's not very polished yet and definitely has room for improvements (uh.. video settings/options anyone?), but hopefully that'll turn out nicely. In the short time i've had it, I've enjoyed it.

And no, i'm not sucking any dev cock this time around.

Bottom this time?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » September 16, 2007, 9:27 pm

I raided in a hardcore manner up until Naxx, we were one of Europe's top guilds, but I was sick of spending all my time playing a shitty computer game. I quit before the expansion.

I levelled my mage to 70, but ended up quitting again about 2 weeks after the expansion came out.

Then I deleted my mage and rerolled Horde. Which was fun, but then I got bored and quit again.

I will probably play again at some point, but all these games tend to burn me out really quickly in comparison with EQ, when I was always the wee noob trying to catch up with the FoH guys. I remember being jaw droppingly amazed when Zamtil powerleveled the shit out of me in Chardok for a few weeks, since I was such a shitty EQ leveller. No MMO had as much drama, excitement, monotony, pain, misery, happiness and thrill as EQ did, and I guess I'm not alone in thinking that.

So we are all searching to recapture old glories. WoW just never had the same feel.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » September 16, 2007, 9:46 pm

WoW definately had the same feeling for me. The reason I left EQ was because all my friends left. The reason I left WoW was because I ran out of content. If none of my long time friends would've left EQ, I might still be playing it today. It's hard to say.

I'll likely play again when the expansion is released. We'll wait and see though. That's a loooong way off. There's a good chance I'll be over it by then, or heavily involed in another game like SC2 (which I cannot wait for!).

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 17, 2007, 6:22 pm

Weren't you playing EQ2 as well, are you still playing?

I quit WoW a long time ago but still enjoy EQ2 a great deal... and Kunark comes out this fall

IMHO Sony has done a good job on mixing things up. Is it essentially the same, yea, but I still have a lot of fun. Ton's of alts and my main is FINALLY almost 70, lol!

Marb

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » September 17, 2007, 6:38 pm

Bubba Grizz wrote:I started up again. Not because of the game itself (I consider VG and Lotro to be superior games overall) but because I missed the people in my guild. If I hadn't liked those people so much I'd probably be mmo free again. As it is I play a few hours here and there and feel no pressure to level if I don't want to.

You just wanted more Canadian cyber, that's all.

I played WoW (too much) for about 6-7 months after release then quit for a year, play casually in a very casual guild now. We're just finishing Kara for the first time this week. Much more fun than rushing through content then being bored

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 17, 2007, 7:32 pm

Aabidano wrote: You just wanted more Canadian cyber, that's all.

Stick it in, eh? I'm aboot to cum!

I'm...I'm ...oohhhh....Cooo, loo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coo, coooo!

Kwonryu DragonFist · September 17, 2007, 7:49 pm

Much thrill and drama in EQ!

But we were all younger then and EQ was so new and it felt one-of-a kind back then.

I believe i feel it's the feeling when you see a movie/read a book when younger and think it is exciting, superb and whatnot.

Watch it again/read it again when older, and it is not quite the same experience as it was back then.

Still, bring back good memories.

The whole thing was so new back then, raiding, poptimes, big guilds with people all over the world, steamrolling and whatnot.

Much thrill, excitement (corpse recoveries) and drama in EQ.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 21, 2007, 12:06 am

They need to recreate the original EQ with all new graphics and technology of today. It would be a hit.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 21, 2007, 12:11 am

I honestly think one of the biggest contributing factors to the new MMO's not being as fun as EQ was for all of us is instanced content. The drama, as much as it got us riled up then, is what compelled us to put in the long hours and stick with it for so long.

I might try EQ2 again, in fact I'm considering installing it right now.. But WoW is pretty much out of the question indefinately.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 21, 2007, 12:41 am

Not that I have any intention of playing another MMORPG anytime soon but if I did I wouldn't play any one that didn't have instanced content / encounters. When I'm paying to play a game I don't want to deal with the asshatery of other groups / guilds. It sucks missing out on something due to timezones, not having enough on, etc. To me that's just not fun.

The drama is what made me stick around here but it almost made me quit EQ.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 21, 2007, 1:45 am

My guild finally downed Kael'thas tonight, so now I get to enjoy the Hyjal/BT content, so I'm still enjoying myself

The Eye is a complete assmess zone tho.

When I was playing EQ2 after playing WoW for awhile I ran into non-instanced dungeons again with farmable nameds and I'd forgotten how fun those spots could be. I definitely need at least some instanced content, especially for raid content. As fun as running to shit like Vox and Naggy when they spawned and STEAMROLLING other guilds was, it's just way better raiding in instances.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » September 21, 2007, 10:28 am

I'd like to find a bit of both really. Sometimes running past other groups fighting in the same dungeon was kind of fun, or even helping them after a wipe. I can certainly agree that raid instancing is pretty awesome, but having a few outdoor bosses that you can race to is fun also. I would probably prefer that the better loot be kept to instanced bosses, but I'm not sure how easy it'd be to keep a non-instanced boss' loot desirable and not have it dead 15 minutes after it spawns.

I definitely miss some of the grind spots where a named could spawn though. I still haven't decided if crawling through the same hallway to big room with a boss is more enjoyable than the sit in 1 room for hours and hope a named spawns is better though. Although since I play on a PvP server, the gankfest of non-instanced areas, especially with a named spawn, could get fucking obnoxious (HELLO, ELEMENTAL PLATEAU). Hell running into raid instances is bad enough, especially ones where you have to open a fucking door. I don't understand why the portal can't just be open and you just don't zone in unless you're key'd. Having to explain to fucking people how to run through the locked door and res just inside the gate and before touching the portal of a raid instance is fucking annoying.

Kwonryu DragonFist · September 21, 2007, 10:35 am

I remember Ghoul Assassin in Lower Guk.

Sometimes you had to take a number and stand in line when it was as crowded as possible!

A very popular named back then.

I think a successful MMORPG should have both instanced and non-instanced content/dungeons!

Some days when you prefer not to have to deal with others, use the instanced content, other days, use the non-instanced ones.

Good stuff!

Competition can be much fun!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » September 21, 2007, 10:38 am

I guess one way to combat the issues of people being right on top of named spawns in non-instanced content - they could make things pop at sporadic times. When everyone on the server knew that NToV was going to pop at x time on x day and they were all gathered up before hand it could be kind of annoying.. If you didn't know for sure then people would have to make a little more effort and more people would have a chance!

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 21, 2007, 1:07 pm

Better yet have them spawn in random locations as well as random times.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 21, 2007, 1:56 pm

I was definitely disappointed with the "micro-dungeons" that they touted back when WoW was in development. They claimed they'd have the big dungeons be instanced with these micro-dungeons scattered around the world as points of interest. Little did I know that this would turn out to be the really lame mines and caves that we know now. There's only one or two occurances of these micro-dungeons done anywhere close to right, the best off the top of my head being the underground ruins area at Jaedenar in Felwood. What I'd like to see in these micro-dungeons is a bit of a story element to them so it's not just a cave with X_miner or Y_orc, some farmable nameds that drop set loot with a random element, soulbound and probably non-disenchantable to prevent any serious farming of them for shards. The nameds in Outlands dropping the set items but with a random element to them are great.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · September 21, 2007, 3:26 pm

I just reactivated my old account. I'm bored. Going to get my rogue, Sinistyr from 68 to 70. Maybe mess around with a mage. /shrug

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » September 21, 2007, 3:33 pm

start a warlock from level 1. Most fun you can have in Warcraft, as far as I'm concerned. Basically unkillable, you never have to stop to rest, and you get all kinds of fun tricks and pets. I love my little level 30 warlock and hope he never grows up.

as for my addition to the EQ nostalgia. I miss having extremely high level roamers in the leveling zones. I liked the suspense of knowing that a Kodiak could sneak up behind me at any moment as I'm killing these little level 8 skeletons in commons. Or even scarier, a sand giant in Oasis. In general, the zones should have supported more players for a longer period of time into a tighter area. There's just not enough opportunity for social interaction in warcraft.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » September 21, 2007, 3:44 pm

It would have been pretty neat to see some type of mountain Giant appear near the crossroads and destroy all the horde/alliance while they fight each other.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » September 21, 2007, 3:53 pm

Nice call on the high level mobs roaming in lower level dungeons. There's so many that make me laugh at how much angst they cause for me. D'vinn, Dorn, Kodiaks, Lockjaw (wasn't as bad), Sand Giants, Spectres, Hill Giants, Cyclops, OH SHIT YOU PULLED AN AVIAK AVOCET, umm, there's tons more lol.

sarlen · Post by **sarlen** » September 21, 2007, 6:56 pm

Psyloche wrote:Nice call on the high level mobs roaming in lower level dungeons. There's so many that make me laugh at how much angst they cause for me. D'vinn, Dorn, Kodiaks, Lockjaw (wasn't as bad), Sand Giants, Spectres, Hill Giants, Cyclops, OH SHIT YOU PULLED AN AVIAK AVOCET, umm, there's tons more lol.

Hands down the Spectres were the ones to fear. All the others combined didnt send me back to my bind spot as much as those fuckers did. There was always some asshole who would go out and grab those guys and drag them around, the wake of devastation was a sight to behold.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 21, 2007, 7:21 pm

I remember when the wolf pets for the goblins in the water around the specters would bug out and you'd have a horde of them swarming along the beach. Good times, good times. A lot of good memories of farming shit for extremely long amounts of time that I remember fondly but can't imagine being done nowadays.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » September 24, 2007, 11:06 am

That Ogre couple in Butcherblock. Those were always fun.

Morgrym · Post by **Morgrym** » September 24, 2007, 12:12 pm

*you feel yourself starting to appear*

Having that show up as an "evil" getting ported into a druid ring as a mid to low level.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » September 24, 2007, 12:23 pm

Morgrym wrote:*you feel yourself starting to appear*

Having that show up as an "evil" getting ported into a druid ring as a mid to low level.

I accidently evaced my group from Guk to.. Uh.. East Karana ring or somewhere. Unfortunately most of the people in my group weren't on friendly terms there. I felt pretty shitty at the time but looking back on it now it was pretty funny.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 24, 2007, 12:27 pm

Aslanna wrote:
Morgrym wrote:*you feel yourself starting to appear*

Having that show up as an "evil" getting ported into a druid ring as a mid to low level.
I accidently evaced my group from Guk to.. Uh.. East Karana ring or somewhere. Unfortunately most of the people in my group weren't on friendly terms there. I felt pretty shitty at the time but looking back on it now it was pretty funny.

I remember dumping some crappy groups there when they would randomly go afk. Only the "bad" people didn't get an invis before we evac'd.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 24, 2007, 1:58 pm

I killed more pets invising pet classes than I care to remember!

I always thought invis should be one of the spells with a pop up option to decline it!

Aardor · Post by **Aardor** » September 24, 2007, 2:02 pm

Winnow wrote:I killed more pets invising pet classes than I care to remember!

I always thought invis should be one of the spells with a pop up option to decline it!

It was pretty awesome before they added the pop up question box about translocates =)

Spankes · Post by **Spankes** » September 24, 2007, 3:17 pm

When they added group buffing there was a bug that made it so you could port a group you were not in. I had a blast for a day or two running around porting people randomly.

Nice derail.

Diae Soulmender · Post by **Diae Soulmender** » October 22, 2007, 8:45 pm

I quit back in July and restarted my account in October. I only play 2 nights a week and even then Im usually on one of my gimps. The game hasnt lost its luster for me, but the entire 'raid' game has.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » October 23, 2007, 4:45 pm

I thought you were on Whisper Wind.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » November 2, 2007, 3:16 pm

Diae Soulmender wrote:I quit back in July and restarted my account in October. I only play 2 nights a week and even then Im usually on one of my gimps. The game hasnt lost its luster for me, but the entire 'raid' game has.

The end-game raiding has lost it's luster for me on all MMO's quote frankly. I had a blast leveling my BE Pally once TBC came out however once I reached 70 and had obtained my flyer, the game became very stale very fast.

I played about another week once I reached 70 and cancelled again.

Sartori · Post by **Sartori** » November 11, 2007, 9:03 pm

Anyone have good suggestion for where to sell a WoW account?