Microsoft Expression Web vs Adobe Dreamweaver CS3

[Siji]

Preferences and why!

[Xouqoa]

I've never even heard of Expression Web.

[cadalano]

notepad > all
















pussies.

[Aslanna]

I've never even heard of Expression Web.

It replaced FrontPage

[Sylvus]

Notepad works fine, but the code view of dreamweaver is pretty much just a beefier notepad. The color-coding is invaluable and the way that dreamweaver handles CSS is great!

I don't ever use design view, that is for pussies!

If Expression Web is just a new name for Frontpage, don't use it, unless they've made leaps and bounds in the program over the last several years. It used to generate the worst html ever. Then again, if you aren't using it to "drag and drop" design a page, it may be just as good as Dreamweaver.

[Winnow]

Only that oldest of old schoolers use Linux with basic text editor, a keyboard with no letters on the keys, a 13" monochrome monitor (amber), on a 386/66 with 256K! That's all you need!

[miir]

Only that oldest of old schoolers use Linux with basic text editor, a keyboard with no letters on the keys, a 13" monochrome monitor (amber), on a 386/66 with 256K! That's all you need!

You need vi (only losers use pico) on a dumb terminal head with a 9600 baud modem.

[Sargeras]

EditPlus > Notepad

When I applied for the Air Force web team, and told them I had experience in Dreamweaver. They said that they only used Frontpage because the Air Force won't purchase an Adobe license outside of Acrobat. On top of that, they refuse to use PHP since it's still open-source (hence hackable) and only use ASP for all their coding. So about 90% of the shit I learned in college is not applicable to working for them.

Off-topic I know, but if they use Microsoft Expression Web, they're still shooting themselves in the foot.

[Aslanna]

Article on Dreamweaver vs Expression Web:

http://mediadesigner.digitalmedianet.co ... p?id=43025

The first, as I mentioned above, is mind share. We all ask the question, "has Microsoft simply renamed FrontPage?" This is a serious question, as FrontPage is not hot on standards, has often wanted to re-write source code, and has those dubious "FrontPage Server Extensions" to worry about. Fortunately, Expression Web Designer is not a new face to FrontPAge. Phew!

Who Wins?

Expression Web Designer is not FrontPage. It is a professional tool. The signs are all there: strong support for standards, support for CSS, support for development tools and tight integration with Enterprise development tools such as Visual Studio.

Dreamweaver, meanwhile, is also demonstrating that it is not a coach potato. Adobe has re-done Dreamweaver's design surface to support CSS first and foremost, with a huge amount of support for accessibility. In addition, the work Adobe is conducting with Flex, AJAX and Eclipse is demonstrating their commitment to a world where rich experience matters as well as standards.

In the War of the Web Designer tools, Microsoft has two battles to fight. The first is to prove that their new product is as good as, or better than, Dreamweaver. The second larger battle is winning mind share. Rightly or wrongly, Microsoft has not gained great support from the professional designer community for products such as FrontPage. I mean, let's face it, as a professional designer, if you saw someone trying to sell themselves as a Web Designer but they used FrontPage to do all of their work, you were likely to snicker to yourself and pass off the "would be" designer. Close, mate, but no cigar.

Microsoft has to prove that Expression Web Designer is a better product that Dreamweaver not by inches but by leaps and bounds.

There is no mistake that Adobe and Microsoft are setting the battle field and will square off against each other. In this new war of Web designer tools, Microsoft is looking a lot like David and Adobe is looking like a limber and strong Goliath.

Guess they didn't really answer the question as to who wins!

[Boogahz]

but it is good to know that Expression Web is not just a new FrontPage!

[Xouqoa]

I think I'll stick with Dreamweaver. I've been using it since version 1, and it works well with ColdFusion/CSS.

I like TextPad for my plain text editor, though.