Ollie North email

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

You know how these things go. Seems to be legit. Interesting connections.

Do you Remember THIS????



I thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information.........
It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being grilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pro nounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.


"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.


By the way, that senator was

Al Gore!

Also:

< B>Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986.

The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any prisoners with blood on their hands.

The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all such prisoners be released.


Thus Mohammad Atta was freed.

Eventually, he thanked the U.S. for helping him to obtain his freedom by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center!

This was reported by many of the American Television networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.

It was censored in the U.S. from all later reports.

[Niffoni]

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

ahh nevermind then. ty niff.

[Niffoni]

BTW, I don't mean anything personal by it, I just tend to hop on stuff that looks like chain-letter material because I used to get taken in by some of the more left-slanted stuff til I started actually looking into them, and found they were pretty much all fudged to one degree or another.

[Dregor Thule]

Chain letters are the debil. I'll throw you a compliment Mid... you're too good for them.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I completely understand. I get a ton of these emails every week from my buddy who was in the military. I usually snope most of them and reply to all and send the link to debunk. I haven't done it for a while. I usually just glance and delete them. I felt bad always debunking every thing he sends. He's my best friend and godfather to my two kids. But, I did it just now with your snopes link. Thanks again.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

http://www.analogousmember.com/archives/000223.html

ABCNews- September 11th Rumors: Fact or Fiction
Oliver North Responds to the E-mail Chain Letter

FROM THE DESK OF LTCOL OLIVER L. NORTH (USMC) RET.
NOVEMBER 28, 2001

OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL THOUSAND E-MAILS FROM EVERY STATE IN THE U.S. AND 13 FOREIGN COUNTRIES IN WHICH THE ORIGINATOR PURPORTS TO HAVE RECENTLY VIEWED A VIDEOTAPE OF MY SWORN TESTIMONY BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE IN 1987.
A COPY OF ONE OF THOSE E-MAILS IS ATTACHED BELOW. AS YOU WILL NOTE, THE ORIGINATOR ATTRIBUTES TO ME CERTAIN STATEMENTS REGARDING USAMA BIN LADEN AND OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY INACCURATE. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM THE GIFT OF PROPHESY, I
DON'T HAVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO SAW WHAT VIDEO "AT UNC." (OR ANYWHERE ELSE) BUT, FOR THE RECORD, HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW:
1. IT WAS THE COMMITTEE COUNSEL, JOHN NIELDS, NOT A SENATOR WHO WAS DOING THE QUESTIONING.
2. THE SECURITY SYSTEM, INSTALLED AT MY HOME, JUST BEFORE I MADE A VERY SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, COST, ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE, $16K, NOT $60K.
3. THE TERRORIST WHO THREATENED TO KILL ME IN 1986, JUST BEFORE THAT SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, WAS NOT USAMA BIN LADEN, IT WAS ABU NIDAL (WHO WORKS FOR THE LIBYANS -- NOT THE TALIBAN AND NOT IN AFGHANISTAN).
4. I NEVER SAID I WAS AFRAID OF ANYBODY. I DID SAY THAT I WOULD BE GLAD TO MEET ABU NIDAL ON EQUAL TERMS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD BUT THAT I WAS UNWILLING TO HAVE HIM OR HIS OPERATIVES MEET MY WIFE AND CHILDREN ON HIS TERMS.
5. I DID SAY THAT THE TERRORISTS INTERCEPTED BY THE FBI ON THE WAY TO MY HOUSE IN FEB. 87 TO KILL MY WIFE, CHILDREN AND ME WERE LIBYANS, DISPATCHED FROM THE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE FOR LIBYAN STUDENTS IN MCLEAN, VIRGINIA.
6. AND I DID SAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD MOVED MY FAMILY OUT OF OUR HOME TO A MILITARY BASE (CAMP LEJEUNE, NC) UNTIL THEY COULD DISPATCH MORE THAN 30 AGENTS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM THOSE TERRORISTS (BECAUSE A LIBERAL FEDERAL JUDGE HAD ALLOWED THE LYBIAN ASSASSINS TO POST BOND AND THEY FLED).
7. AND, FYI: THOSE FEDERAL AGENTS REMAINED AT OUR HOME UNTIL I RETIRED FROM THE MARINES AND WAS NO LONGER A "GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL." BY THEN, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAD SPENT MORE THAN $2M PROTECTING THE NORTH FAMILY. THE TERRORISTS SENT TO KILL US WERE NEVER RE-APPREHENDED.
SEMPER FIDELIS, OLIVER L. NORTH

[Jice Virago]

This kind of shit gets circulated as sort of propaganda that cannot be legally actioned against. The liberal ones are not as bad (probably because its fringe lunatics instead of Neocon Shills concocting them), but some of the libertarian tinfoil hat ones are flat out ridiculous. Sadly, a lot of people will digest these nuggets of bullshit and accept them as fact in the back of their brains when it comes time to pull election levers.

[Aslanna]

Someone needs to tell Ollie to lay off the caps lock omg.

[Boogahz]

Someone needs to tell Ollie to lay off the caps lock omg.

He was screaming at YOU!

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

It is in a special encoding so only liberal hippy fnord members see caps.

[Keverian FireCry]

"seems to be legit"

...

how could anyone get past the first sentence and still think this was legit?

[Canelek]

Basically, if something like this reaches anyone via email it is 100% spam. It still works, so the senders keep sending...and keep collecting email addresses.

[Sionistic]

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

Gore was probably just shocked he didn't spend another $40k to make the whole system energy efficient!

[miir]

As for the other part of the spam chain letter:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986.

The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any prisoners with blood on their hands.

The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all such prisoners be released.


Thus Mohammad Atta was freed.

Eventually, he thanked the U.S. for helping him to obtain his freedom by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center!

This was reported by many of the American Television networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.

It was censored in the U.S. from all later reports.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/atta.asp

The funniest thing is that the Mohammed Atta who was allegedly the 'ring leader' for the 9/11 attacks was 30 years old at the time. That would have made him like 14 at the time of the bus ambush.

[Boogahz]

Basically, if something like this reaches anyone via email it is 100% spam. It still works, so the senders keep sending...and keep collecting email addresses.

So, are you saying that my sister sending this crap out is a scheme to harvest email addresses? I say it is just a gullible person forwarding what another gullible person sent to her.

[Boogahz]

As for the other part of the spam chain letter:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986.

The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any prisoners with blood on their hands.

The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all such prisoners be released.


Thus Mohammad Atta was freed.

Eventually, he thanked the U.S. for helping him to obtain his freedom by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center!

This was reported by many of the American Television networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.

It was censored in the U.S. from all later reports.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/atta.asp

The funniest thing is that the Mohammed Atta who was allegedly the 'ring leader' for the 9/11 attacks was 30 years old at the time. That would have made him like 14 at the time of the bus ambush.

I think that one funny thing about all of these are the parts claiming that the information was "censored." I think it would be more accurate to say that the information was removed from reports once found to be false.

[Canelek]

Basically, if something like this reaches anyone via email it is 100% spam. It still works, so the senders keep sending...and keep collecting email addresses.

So, are you saying that my sister sending this crap out is a scheme to harvest email addresses? I say it is just a gullible person forwarding what another gullible person sent to her.

Nope. They operate on the chance that the original sender email addy is part of the reply to all. Since most email worms are thwarted at some point, so that is really the only chance it has of gathering addys. Most of the time, these things are perfectly harmless (albeit pointless). Didn't mean to be misleading!

[Boogahz]

Basically, if something like this reaches anyone via email it is 100% spam. It still works, so the senders keep sending...and keep collecting email addresses.

So, are you saying that my sister sending this crap out is a scheme to harvest email addresses? I say it is just a gullible person forwarding what another gullible person sent to her.

Nope. They operate on the chance that the original sender email addy is part of the reply to all. Since most email worms are thwarted at some point, so that is really the only chance it has of gathering addys. Most of the time, these things are perfectly harmless (albeit pointless). Didn't mean to be misleading!

Why would someone reply to all when forwarding these?

[Truant]

Basically, if something like this reaches anyone via email it is 100% spam. It still works, so the senders keep sending...and keep collecting email addresses.

So, are you saying that my sister sending this crap out is a scheme to harvest email addresses? I say it is just a gullible person forwarding what another gullible person sent to her.

Nope. They operate on the chance that the original sender email addy is part of the reply to all. Since most email worms are thwarted at some point, so that is really the only chance it has of gathering addys. Most of the time, these things are perfectly harmless (albeit pointless). Didn't mean to be misleading!

Why would someone reply to all when forwarding these?

Because people who would forward these are not the brightest people, as evidenced by their forward of these.

[Psyloche]

People who forward these are typically like people who set up email forwards to groups of which they are a part of when they are on vacation, creating a rift in the time/email space continuum.

[Winnow]

Who lives in Oklahoma?

http://www.tax.ok.gov/plates/sp145.html

Can get your Global War on Terrorism Plates for $37.00



I don't mind custom plates but this one seems like a bit much with the camo background, among other things.

[Boogahz]

you don't know many Okies, do you?

[Deward]

This kind of shit gets circulated as sort of propaganda that cannot be legally actioned against. The liberal ones are not as bad (probably because its fringe lunatics instead of Neocon Shills concocting them), but some of the libertarian tinfoil hat ones are flat out ridiculous. Sadly, a lot of people will digest these nuggets of bullshit and accept them as fact in the back of their brains when it comes time to pull election levers.

Hey dickhead! Libertarians aren't the only tin foil hat wearers. I personally have never worn a tinfoil hat. I have been known to stockpile MREs in my basement though. Libertarians are more worried about big government and being taxed to death. I think the liberals are more likely to be wearing tinfoil hats.

Just wanted to clarify so you know not to give us libertarians a bad name and become another victim of the mass media's prejudice versus third parties. *looks for some tin foil*