Valaron the Thief

Huzbub · Post by **Huzbub** » July 12, 2002, 12:00 pm

It's a shame to me that there exist people such as Valaron. I surround myself with friends and i tend to let my trust fall outside of that safe circle...

For anyone who has missed the details of the story, here is how things went...

We often allow guests on our weekly highbie raids and this was no exception. We allowed Valaron to tag along and share in the loot. Sadly we are now unable to determine who told him of the raid channel and allowed him along.

Early into the raid Valaron suggested an exchange of weapons for the duration of the raid. I agreed to use his Argent Protector and he would use my Long Sword of Ethereal Energy. As the raid drew to a close he asked if I would be willing to make the trade final to which I replied no. Not enough that he was given a nice 2hb that dropped during the raid he then promptly got a Translocate to bind and camped out with my sword still in his posession.

Yes, I DID do a /report valaron INSTANTLY when he made his intentions clear, but as usual I never heard back from a GM that night and hoped that the following day would prove to me that he simply had to log off quickly for reasons of his own.

The following day we quickly discovered his true intentions as he had apparently already sold the LSoEE. We contacted his guild and found an officer. Finding in our favor Valaron was given the choice to return the item or be deguilded as this was dishonorable. He deguilded himself along with a sarcastic comment or two which I think says enough about him right there.

He then offered me face to face that if I ported him to WC he would get and return my LSoEE. As we were at the zone in to FV this was obviously just another scam, this time for a free ride. He grouped with me for a port and we dropped him off in the Plane of Hate. I said that we would get him a rez and out after he returned my LSoEE. I asked the raiding force there NOT to assist him but the word was not spread fast enough among them apprently as he was TL'd out. Grrr.. In the game there is NO way to deal with liars and cheaters and con artists. The GM's have proven time and time again to be a step below worthless in resolving anything.

At this point Valaron offered me 12kpp to let it go instead of spreading the word of his deeds. This of course was nothing more than a diversionary tactic as when I asked when I would be paid he simply offered his good word (HA!).

My only recourse now was to let people know what happened and not allow Valaron to continue his con on anyone else.

Yes, I have his Argent Protector, but I don't want it and didn't at anytime indicate that I did want it.

I'm angry and I'm frustrated - Valaron took a gesture of good will and turned it sour. Valaron took advantage of me and rubbed it in my face. Yes, he got the upper hand and he proved that he was nothing more than a deceptive liar. I have no one to blame but myself.

I will however go to bed tonight knowing that in the face of this event I got the support of basically everyone in the guild, and many friends from other guilds who took my word based on my history of honesty. Then beyond that I was offered plenty of assistance in replacing the lost item.

I've learned that he has come up with a story of his own and is trying to convince people that my story is untrue. What seems obvious is usually true - who would and why would anyone take the time and effort to create a story as this and campaign it otherwise?

I thank everyone for their caring and assistance. I apologize for having taken up your time.

-Huzbub
Dread Templar

Thief:
Pronunciation: 'thEf
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural thieves /'thEvz/
Etymology: Middle English theef, from Old English thEof; akin to Old High German diob thief
Date: before 12th century
: one that steals especially stealthily or secretly; also : one who commits theft or larceny

Con:
Function: noun
Date: 1901
: something (as a ruse) used deceptively to gain another's confidence; also : a confidence game : SWINDLE

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 12, 2002, 12:04 pm

He grouped with me for a port and we dropped him off in the Plane of Fear

they activated the dr00d rings there?

cause otherwise i'm calling bullshit.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 12, 2002, 12:05 pm

Ug, that sucks man.

Huzbub · Post by **Huzbub** » July 12, 2002, 12:08 pm

What do druid rings have to do with anything? Did you somehow derive from my post that I was a druid or that we had a druid port us? Or maybe I was a LSoEE or Argent Protector weilding Druid? =)

I'm a level 60 Warrior.

We had a wizzie port us.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 12, 2002, 12:10 pm

Well, he said "we" ported him to Fear, so he probably had a wizard in the group.

At any rate, this is the perfect forum to discuss fucktards like this. Thanks info.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 12, 2002, 12:20 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Well, he said "we" ported him to Fear, so he probably had a wizard in the group.

At any rate, this is the perfect forum to discuss fucktards like this. Thanks info.

Oh yeah the ***WIZARD*** Portal in PoF.

i got ya.

i stand corrected.

THERE IS NO PORT INTO POF JEEZUS FUCKING CHRISTMAS AT LEAST GET YOUR FAKE DETAILS STRAIGHT YOU GOD DAMN SUNS OF BITCHES!

Impirius · Post by **Impirius** » July 12, 2002, 12:24 pm

ROFL I was bout to say the same thing Voronwe

Huzbub · Post by **Huzbub** » July 12, 2002, 12:25 pm

LOL!

You ARE right! heheh, we were originally raiding PoF that night, just a typo / brain fart on my behalf, One Fulgarian Stone and PoH! =)

I wrote my original post at 2 in the morning and was not at my best =) I should know better than to not double check myself to avoid becoming the flame target on a flame-board! heheh.

Original Post on http://www.DreadTemplar.com, which I'll update as well.

Heheheh, I'll edit / fix that (/bonk)

-Huz

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 12, 2002, 12:27 pm

I feel for your loss bud. Things like this do two things. First the cheapen and destroy trust. It makes the game much less fun to play. Second, it makes for great conversation on the boards. We will have days of fun trashing this thief and hearing exploits similar in nature.

So you see, there is upside to this after all.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 12, 2002, 12:29 pm

I am stoned as shit.

I am so confused. Too much...stupidity...

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 12, 2002, 12:29 pm

fair enough, i'll stop giving you a hard time.

anyways, i basically never let people i don't know well use nice items of mine.

GMs may be able to help you i think.

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 12, 2002, 12:31 pm

Closest you can get to fear is the wiz portal to the center of the Cazic Maze. Might have been a good place to drop him off especially since most do not know how to get out of the maze.

Now I read your edit, dropping him off in Hate was a good idea. I still like cazic maze better for its a higher lvl zone and the mobs hit much much harder.

Ninan

P.S. Teeny get your ass out of the local Hash bar man. That shit aint good for ya......pass me the pipe

Post by **Xouqoa** » July 12, 2002, 12:31 pm

What an assling!

Someone send this guy a message in game and get him to come here and defend himself so we can all point and laugh at him! Tell him there's a lot of nude pictures of Brittney Spears here (but you have to register to see them!), I bet he'll show up.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 12, 2002, 12:32 pm

Yeah, I was thinking Hate. I'll leave my original msg intact so all can witness my transgretion.

I had a sarnark battle sword stolen in the same manner about 4 days after Kunark was released. (hey, it was uber to me, no one had ever even seen one before) I have never shared equipment in an exp group since then. Bastards like that ruin the game.

Huzbub · Post by **Huzbub** » July 12, 2002, 12:53 pm

We had considered CT, but its too easy to step in and get a summon, plus he's only level 46, so we hoped he'd die and unding... I know thats Evil, but still.. It's a shame to waste a 112 pp stone just to get him in to PoH, but would have been worth it had they not TL'd him out =\

IF anyone else see's him looking for port and drops him in PoH for me, I'll be MORE than happy to cover any losses or expenses!

Or if he's looking for help on a CR, get consent and drag it as far as possible AWAY !

I'm telling ya, he fooked with the wrong person...

Ninan wrote:Closest you can get to fear is the wiz portal to the center of the Cazic Maze. Might have been a good place to drop him off especially since most do not know how to get out of the maze.

Now I read your edit, dropping him off in Hate was a good idea. I still like cazic maze better for its a higher lvl zone and the mobs hit much much harder.

Zvenn Eaglefist · Post by **Zvenn Eaglefist** » July 12, 2002, 1:34 pm

and amongst all this everyone forgot to give you the royal JACKASS

dont think it would get past me ) hehe sucks you got conned but i couldnt

let ya get by your first posting without it

Hammerstalker PE · Post by **Hammerstalker PE** » July 12, 2002, 1:43 pm

Fuck bro I think I am the one that Rezzed this fucktard. Shit I am sorry. I got a tell from someone asking me to rez Valaron at the gatehouse in Fear so since it was only a click I did it. The unfortunate part is that we had a Wizard with us and she TL'd him.

As soon as I rezzed this asshole I wished I hadn't. As soon as he popped at his corpse he started spamming requests for a TL. Fanadile TL'd him just to shut him up. Sorry bud but I will be on the look out for him.

Hrmm I like the idea of porting him to Hate better than CT. Much harder to retrieve your corpse in Hate.

Fumita · Post by **Fumita** » July 12, 2002, 1:44 pm

some people are just born bastids

it sucks, I let a nOOb borrow icetooth claws when vel, 1st came out..they weren't a bad weap for my lil lvl 13 warrior @ the time, they weren't worth as much as an losee but still u learn that u can't always trust those u don't know as much. valarion is on the no port list for me druid and no rez for clr :-/ thats just rude. and if I'm usin the big wiz

/snicker lol . again sorry this happened tho

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 12, 2002, 2:14 pm

Hammerstalker PE wrote:Fuck bro I think I am the one that Rezzed this fucktard. Shit I am sorry. I got a tell from someone asking me to rez Valaron at the gatehouse in Fear so since it was only a click I did it. The unfortunate part is that we had a Wizard with us and she TL'd him.

As soon as I rezzed this asshole I wished I hadn't. As soon as he popped at his corpse he started spamming requests for a TL. Fanadile TL'd him just to shut him up. Sorry bud but I will be on the look out for him.

Hrmm I like the idea of porting him to Hate better than CT. Much harder to retrieve your corpse in Hate.

is everybody who posts on this thread on crack?

you rezzed him in hate dude!!

Ninan · Post by **Ninan** » July 12, 2002, 2:25 pm

Not a crack partaker, but I would love some of the stuff Teeny is smoking right about now hehe.

Post by **Xouqoa** » July 12, 2002, 3:12 pm

THERE IS NO GATEHOUSE IN FEAR!!!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » July 12, 2002, 3:44 pm

Xouqoa wrote:THERE IS NO GATEHOUSE IN FEAR!!!

onry frightfinger house where i can soros

thx expriot

TT Uu ^^

Nadonius · Post by **Nadonius** » July 12, 2002, 4:13 pm

People like this are the reason we don't allow unknown guests on raids anymore.

Peny · Post by **Peny** » July 12, 2002, 5:09 pm

sooo... how much is it to change name again? $50?

Sad to say he was in my guild but he had to be a new recruit since I never heard of him till this incident.

Cadienie · Post by **Cadienie** » July 12, 2002, 9:33 pm

What an ASSHOLE... Karma will get him eventually..

gulween · Post by **gulween** » July 12, 2002, 9:51 pm

damn man that really sux royal ass
just goes to tell ya that not everyone is considerate..
/rude @ asshole

and yes
KARMA WILL GET HIM
KARMA BITCH!

Zvenn Eaglefist · Post by **Zvenn Eaglefist** » July 12, 2002, 11:59 pm

karma?

Dolby · Post by **Dolby** » July 13, 2002, 12:01 am

If he changes his name you can goto the everquest live site and track his name. All you need to know is one of his names and it will tell you all his previous names.

Cadienie · Post by **Cadienie** » July 13, 2002, 1:27 pm

said Dumbass was in nfp selling his wares until a few ppl (who obviously read this board) started /ooc Don't trade with <said asshole> he's a <insert expletive here>

was fun to watch... personally i was sending him tells...

oops my bad

Cadienie · Post by **Cadienie** » July 13, 2002, 1:33 pm

ohh he's still using the same name..

Aedryn · Post by **Aedryn** » July 14, 2002, 7:11 am

I will look out for this MF

Huzbub · Post by **Huzbub** » July 15, 2002, 2:43 pm

Rumor is he's done a /changelog to get to the Karanna server. It seems highly unlikely to me since he'd lose his gear. More likely he's saying that to throw us off and has put in for a name change.

I'll be looking on Karana and the namechange service once it's up.

For the record - I've had many kind offers in game to help me recover the loss, I can't bring myself to take anyone up on it - but I thank you all anywhoo =)

Good to know there's good people out there to balance out people like Valaron.

-Huzbub

Cadienie · Post by **Cadienie** » July 15, 2002, 6:05 pm

just regarding that name change service... sony have changed their mind about having the list on the website, it breaches the privacy of the legit players changing their names. There's a write up about it on eq.castersrealm.com

KilornCloudwalker · Post by **KilornCloudwalker** » July 15, 2002, 6:10 pm

Actually..they changed their mind again...it WILL still be on the website, Cadi.. there was apparently some crossed wires earlier.

http://eq.castersrealm.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=4403

KilornCloudwalker · Post by **KilornCloudwalker** » July 15, 2002, 6:11 pm

How are you guys a day ahead of me and still so far behind? heheheh

Cadienie · Post by **Cadienie** » July 15, 2002, 6:12 pm

doh sorry, i didn't get the chance to check casters yesterday and i cant check from here... another site blocked through the firewall.

sorry about that

Kelfain · Post by **Kelfain** » October 8, 2002, 7:20 pm

Just wanted to be a good citizen and report a sighting of this thief. He was running a casino in the stables of the Bazaar as I write this. Hope this helps put the squeeze on this trash.

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » October 8, 2002, 8:01 pm

If ever I was Dictator of the Universe, I'd require all online games have a "vote the dumbass off the server" feature.

Requirement 1: The dumbass has to have a negative soulmark flagged on him by a GM.

Requirement 2: If they have a soul mark against them they're open game to being voted off the server. If a dumbass gets 500 votes against him in a 48 hour time period he's banned.

Imagine steamrolling someone knowing that you could piss off enough people to have your ass banned.

Imagine how fast Erny would of been hammered, or that druid guy that kept harrasing CoE women.

They'd have to have a GM soulmark against them to trigger voting as a safeguard againt people just going apeshit and voting off a non offender.

I dunno, maybe its too rough a concept to perfect. But it was a novel thought for 30 seconds.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » October 8, 2002, 8:13 pm

Go n to any adminmod counterstrike server or any quake 3 varient game server that allows player voting and you'll see why thats a bad idea. people are jealous fags and instead of just accepting the fact that they suck, they feel the need to accuse a person whose been killing them frequently of cheating or whatever and everyone will just vote him off even if he is a legitimate player.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » October 8, 2002, 8:18 pm

/agree stragi

all the dumbasses vote the non dumbasses of the servers and/or ban them.

Unfortunately Adex, I think the morons of earth outnumber their more intelligent counterpart.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 8, 2002, 9:29 pm

At least I didn't read the whole thread this time thinking it was new.

I bet someone did, though!

Pubin · Post by **Pubin** » October 8, 2002, 10:12 pm

I did

BTW this guys is a what? lvl 46 race, class? Ranger, paladin, war, sk if I remember right on the 2hander he left you with.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » October 8, 2002, 10:28 pm

I use the little orange box to determine if it's new or not...if it's not orange, I don't read it.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » October 9, 2002, 12:13 am

The thread wasn't new. But the bump was. That's what I was referrig to. It had an orange box thingie.

Joramile · Post by **Joramile** » October 9, 2002, 1:14 am

Uhh

Okay that guy = asshole. If he was smart he'd disappear. People like that ruin game integrity. /tell faggot's_name.karana DIE FUCKER! or however that syntax goes...i haven't tried it

As far as GM compensation, you have to get lucky. A nice GM will look into it thoroughly and might determine in your favor. However the official GM stance is IF YOU HIT THE TRADE BUTTON, YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE TRADE AS IT STANDS IN THAT WINDOW.

This means, if you put it in the trade window, and both people hit the trade button, its officially the other persons, just in case I wasn't clear enough.

But it wouldn't be the first time i've heard of shit being reimbursed...just giving you a lookout. Good luck and if I find out he lives by me, i'll use many methods in the "papering" thread to deal with him

VeeshanVault

Valaron the Thief

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