oh god change it back

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » May 29, 2007, 11:43 am

Seriously, this is ugly and everything is fucked up. What was wrong with the old board?

Fash · Post by **Fash** » May 29, 2007, 11:46 am

kyoukan wrote:Seriously, this is ugly and everything is fucked up. What was wrong with the old board?

whining cunt syndrome!

you're ugly, nothing is fucked up.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 29, 2007, 11:52 am

You can now make it look a lot like it previously did. Go into the User Control Panel, go into Board Settings (or something along those lines) and choose the SubSilver2 theme.

That'll move avatars back to the left and it will look very similar to how it used to look.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 29, 2007, 12:13 pm

Just don't change your email address. It will set your account inactive!

Post by **Sylvus** » May 29, 2007, 12:15 pm

That happened on the old board too, I was hoping it'd be fixed in phpBB3.

I changed account activation back to user, I'm wondering if that'll allow you to change your email address without it setting you to inactive. Hopefully the new version won't be so susceptible to spammers and bots.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » May 29, 2007, 12:25 pm

Fash wrote:
kyoukan wrote:Seriously, this is ugly and everything is fucked up. What was wrong with the old board?
whining cunt syndrome!

you're ugly, nothing is fucked up.

I'm ugly? Do I smell too? How is grade seven treating you, retard?

Jesus Christ, put some fucking effort into it or don't even waste my time.

New board is still stupid looking. Was it really worth changing everything so we can filter new posts from old ones?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 29, 2007, 12:30 pm

Thanks sylvus, this is much better. I absolutely detest that new look/layout.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 29, 2007, 12:32 pm

kyoukan wrote:New board is still stupid looking. Was it really worth changing everything so we can filter new posts from old ones?

You're right, that's all that it did for us. I stayed up till 4am last night to make the board uglier and provide one meaningless improvement.

Oh that's pretty rad, new board tells you if you're about to submit a reply to a thread that someone has posted to in the meantime, and shows you said posts.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » May 29, 2007, 12:32 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Fash wrote:
kyoukan wrote:Seriously, this is ugly and everything is fucked up. What was wrong with the old board?
whining cunt syndrome!

you're ugly, nothing is fucked up.
I'm ugly? Do I smell too? How is grade seven treating you, retard?

Jesus Christ, put some fucking effort into it or don't even waste my time.

New board is still stupid looking. Was it really worth changing everything so we can filter new posts from old ones?

effort? like you do? here let me try again:

why are you such a worthless douchebag?

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » May 29, 2007, 12:38 pm

Fash wrote:effort? you mean like: why are you such a worthless douchebag?

That was a legitimate question though, and one for which we still haven't gotten a good answer.

Why are you & your brother such worthless pieces of shit anyway? Were your parents 30 kinds of fucked up? Were you two abused as kids? Did you abuse each other? Were you in a cult that warped your little developing minds? Or were you just terribly unlucky in the genetic lottery we all played?

Give us a clue and help us understand.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » May 29, 2007, 1:23 pm

Xatrei wrote:
Fash wrote:effort? you mean like: why are you such a worthless douchebag?
That was a legitimate question though, and one for which we still haven't gotten a good answer.

Why are you & your brother such worthless pieces of shit anyway? Were your parents 30 kinds of fucked up? Were you two abused as kids? Did you abuse each other? Were you in a cult that warped your little developing minds? Or were you just terribly unlucky in the genetic lottery we all played?

Give us a clue and help us understand.

Oh you and your opinions again... We grew up in a loving family that served in the armed forces. We grew up with a good basis in religion and later cast it aside. We're both healthy, upstanding, contributing members of society. Aside from that, My brother and I are not much alike, and have gone through periods where we didn't speak to each other (sometimes because of this board, even!).

I enjoy discussing things with you all, and unlike some of you, I do my best to keep my arguments on topic... Very rarely if ever do I ever make anything personal or attack one specific person.

We can agree to disagree without trying to insult each others intelligence, which we truly know nothing about.

Have a great day!!

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » May 29, 2007, 1:28 pm

Hmm, subsilver2 is better than the other one anyway. Now for some pee-coloured text.

noel · Post by **noel** » May 29, 2007, 1:39 pm

I don't really put Fash and Midnyte in anywhere near the same class. I was actually shocked to learn that their brothers.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 29, 2007, 1:39 pm

Apparently I missed something along the line, I was unaware you were related to someone else at VV Fash..

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » May 29, 2007, 1:43 pm

Hmm, i changed email today, and didnt get inactive, i think

Nick · Post by **Nick** » May 29, 2007, 1:46 pm

Oh fuck off Kyoukan and quit bloody whining for once in your life.

I'm using the layout that's similiar to the old board, I like the change, cheers Sylvus $\:D/$

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 29, 2007, 1:48 pm

Nick wrote:Oh fuck off Kyoukan and quit bloody whining for once in your life.

I'm using the layout that's similiar to the old board, I like the change, cheers Sylvus $\:D/$

You know better than to think that she will ever stop bitching and whining.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » May 29, 2007, 1:51 pm

I like the new layout. It will take a bit of getting used to, but I'm pleased. The only thing that's not 100% to my liking is the little circles next to the forum names make it a little harder to see which forums have new posts, the change is more subtle than in subsilver. If I could have the subsilver circles in prosilver, I'd be set.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 29, 2007, 1:54 pm

Even Xatrei, "just give me a command line" D'Linux recognizes the benefit of upgrading to phpBB3.

It takes awhile to get the tweaks back in place.

I like how you can choose to show images, avatars, flash, etc in preferences. Maybe we can get embedded you tube with the option to enable/disable in preferences as well down the road!

[Show]: cunt!

Whats this? [*] tag?

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » May 29, 2007, 1:56 pm

Thank you Jesus, my avatars are back on the left!

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » May 29, 2007, 1:58 pm

set subsilver2 as the default prehops?

i dont know anyone who would actually stick with that horrid phpbb3 default.

p.s. wtb banners & a quick reply feature: see vbulletin.

Post by **Sylvus** » May 29, 2007, 2:01 pm

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:Thank you Jesus, my avatars are back on the left!

No problem, I rose from the dead so that I could install theme packs on phpBB boards.

Winnow wrote:Whats this? [*] tag?

That's always been there, it's for an item in a list.

Code: Select all

Reasons why I'm the coolest:
[list=1]
[*]my mom says so
[*]your mom says so
[*]etc
[/list]

becomes

Reasons why I'm the coolest:

my mom says so
your mom says so
etc

rellix wrote:set subsilver2 as the default prehops?

It is now, but the phpBB team is pushing prosilver as the new standard. So when the board conversion happened and prosilver was the default, it set that up for each individual user. I can force override to subsilver so no one has a choice, or you guys can go in one time and change it yourselves. I opted for the latter.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 29, 2007, 2:08 pm

the new prosilver with avatars on the left would be OK. I'm going to try and get used to the new look theme.

I'm wondering if there's any differences between the two besides looks. I know we had that problem with our previous themes (missing ignore buttons, etc). When mods come out, they'll probably be designed for Prosilver.

Brown Spots on the Wall by Who Flung Poo

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » May 29, 2007, 4:17 pm

Winnow wrote:Brown Spots on the Wall by Who Flung Poo

If you enjoyed that book you should check out "Yellow River by I.P. Daly"

miir · Post by **miir** » May 29, 2007, 4:23 pm

Moonwynd wrote:
Winnow wrote:Brown Spots on the Wall by Who Flung Poo
If you enjoyed that book you should check out "Yellow River by I.P. Daly"

Rusty Bedsprings by I.P. Nightly

Sargeras · Post by **Sargeras** » May 29, 2007, 4:29 pm

Thanks for the all the work you put into this mp

Post by **Xouqoa** » May 29, 2007, 5:01 pm

I really like the new layout, so it is all just a matter of opinion. The new one is organized much better and looks a lot cleaner to me.

[Show]: Everybody else that does not share my opinion is wrong and stupid.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » May 29, 2007, 6:07 pm

I won't be happy until you make it perfectly mimic the clunky, old, piece-of-shit VN Boards.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 29, 2007, 7:13 pm

Was the change really necessary?

subsilver looked decent tho! Almost like the good ol days!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » May 29, 2007, 7:41 pm

Sylvus wrote:I changed account activation back to user, I'm wondering if that'll allow you to change your email address without it setting you to inactive. Hopefully the new version won't be so susceptible to spammers and bots.

vv wrote:Registered users: Arborealus, Aslanna, Gigabot [Bot], Google [Bot], Winnow, Zamtuk

!!!

Post by **pyrella** » May 29, 2007, 7:49 pm

Zamtuk wrote:
Sylvus wrote:I changed account activation back to user, I'm wondering if that'll allow you to change your email address without it setting you to inactive. Hopefully the new version won't be so susceptible to spammers and bots.

vv wrote:Registered users: Arborealus, Aslanna, Gigabot [Bot], Google [Bot], Winnow, Zamtuk
!!!

Giga, google, altavista, etc - are all 'legitimate' bots. Those are web crawlers and the like - he was referring to spammers ;P

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » May 29, 2007, 8:03 pm

SHAZAAM!!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 29, 2007, 8:35 pm

OMG I made The Team!. That's almost like a cliqué! I'm in! I'm in!

hmmm, the "do not automatically parse URLs" option is nice.

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » May 29, 2007, 10:04 pm

To get it back to normal simply enable the subsilver2 theme and deactivate the prosilver and it should revert to what it looks like as the old phpbb2 stock where shit actually looks correct:

http://www.theusualgroup.com/phpbb3

You can see there what the subsilver2 theme is.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » May 30, 2007, 5:43 am

Every time something gets upgraded a few people throw hissy fits because... well i guess that the change is too disruptive to their comfortable repetitious life? I dunno.

It's fucking silly to complain about upgrades.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » May 30, 2007, 6:48 am

I'm sure the functionality upgrades are all superb but the default UI is a sack of sprained anus.

Thanks for letting us change it!

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » May 30, 2007, 8:37 am

having to click on video game discussion only to find that the new post is about some retarded everquest 1 news is a pita.

subforums FTL

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 30, 2007, 9:20 am

Mr Bacon wrote:having to click on video game discussion only to find that the new post is about some retarded everquest 1 news is a pita.

subforums FTL

Yeah, I can understand the reason for making the subforums, but I don't like the way finding new posts works there either.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 30, 2007, 10:08 am

Boogahz wrote:
Mr Bacon wrote:having to click on video game discussion only to find that the new post is about some retarded everquest 1 news is a pita.

subforums FTL

Yeah, I can understand the reason for making the subforums, but I don't like the way finding new posts works there either.

Use the "View New Posts" option on the main forum index and you'll get a nice list of new posts since your last visit (last time you closed your browser):

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/sear ... d=newposts

It works great. using it right now!

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 30, 2007, 10:16 am

Can filters be set up to not show new posts from every forum? Every time I have used it, some posts stay "new" no matter how many times I read them

noel · Post by **noel** » May 30, 2007, 10:50 am

Winnow wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Mr Bacon wrote:having to click on video game discussion only to find that the new post is about some retarded everquest 1 news is a pita.

subforums FTL

Yeah, I can understand the reason for making the subforums, but I don't like the way finding new posts works there either.

Use the "View New Posts" option on the main forum index and you'll get a nice list of new posts since your last visit (last time you closed your browser):

http://www.veeshanvault.org/forums/sear ... d=newposts

It works great. using it right now!

View new posts is great, but it has the same problem it had on the previous incarnation of the forums... there are forums that I literally don't give a shit about. Unlike Miir, I don't take time out of my day to hop into someone elses forum of interest and shit all over it 'just to stimulate conversation', so forums like EQ1, LotRO, Ogame, etc. I just avoid and don't care to see new posts from.

As far as the VG forums go. I see what you're trying to do, understand it, and am in favor of it, but is there a way it can be accomplished that doesn't involve me having to scroll down half a page to read the regular VG forum topics?

noel · Post by **noel** » May 30, 2007, 10:58 am

Granted this is on my MacBook, but given that I'm hitting the site 99% of the time from my work laptop, this kinda sucks.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 30, 2007, 11:02 am

This is a normal reaction by traditionalists who are afraid of change!

Has to be like it's always been like back in the good ol' days!

Things has to be done like they always been done etc

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » May 30, 2007, 11:12 am

Oh no, the horror of having to scroll!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 30, 2007, 11:16 am

Whoa, I just noticed all those new console forums. That might be a bit much! That's a lot of clicking to get to articles.

There might not be enough traffic for all those separate forums imo.

The video gaming forum seems to handle itself well with individual threads popping up for single games for any format while the MMOs do deserve their own forums as they get much more detailed info typically.

Dunno, but I'll probably tend to post in the main gaming forum no matter what the format. Could have a PC Game forum as well the way that's broken down! The traffic doesn't seem to push threads off the first page faster than people can read them which is a good gauge sometimes for the need for sub-forums. The new search feature will come more into play, the more sub forums there are. Just don't want peeps missing posts because they can't check so many forums at work!

New catch phrase on VV: "Dude, you've been sub-forum'd!"

noel · Post by **noel** » May 30, 2007, 11:18 am

I actually like the changes. As you'll note in my screenshot, I'm using the newer styled forum template.

Aslanna, there's probably a better way to do it that will at least save some of the space at the top of the screen. Perhaps moving the MMOGs to their own Parent forum outside of the VG forum; just as an example.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 30, 2007, 11:20 am

noel wrote:As you'll note in my screenshot

Am I missing something?

noel · Post by **noel** » May 30, 2007, 11:26 am

Are you unable to see the attachment in one of the previous posts?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 30, 2007, 11:41 am

noel wrote:Are you unable to see the attachment in one of the previous posts?

What are you pointing out in that screenshot? The new theme?

I'm sticking with the new theme as well. It took a solid day of screwing around with it to get used to it. As with Vista, there's not immediate gratification but it's the better choice!

Post by **Sylvus** » May 30, 2007, 11:42 am

You know what I love about implementing changes? It's when they're done to address specific gripes people have made in the past, and then the same people gripe about the changes. Some people just like to gripe.

Not pointing any fingers at anyone specifically... Py set up the subforums, we could probably tweak them a bit. Bear with us, we'll test out a few different things for a while and figure out the best way to set it all up.

Subforums allow us to break things down into categories without having 75 forums on the front page (which people bitched about). If it would be easier for people, we can make it so that the container for the subforums (in this case, VG General) does not allow posts, and instead VG General is a sibling forum of Consoles and MMOs and such rather than the parent. Would that be preferable?

Please note that if you are only interested in specific subforums, you can click on those right from the main page, in the list of subforums that a superforum is parent of.

I've also found the setting to turn the dot off of the thread title images. The dot is there to show if you've posted in that thread. If I hear emphatically either way, I'll turn the dot off or leave it on, but right now my inclination is to go with the default (on).