Shadowrun

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 29, 2007, 11:03 am

I was thinking about picking this up, but wanted to wait and see what people here think of it, so yeah.. Let me know your thoughts.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 29, 2007, 12:01 pm

I plan on picking it up for the PC even though I am scared at how much they have probably fucked up the Shadowrun setting.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » May 29, 2007, 12:04 pm

At least you won't have to roll 732 six-siders to do anything in this game.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 29, 2007, 12:17 pm

Xatrei wrote:At least you won't have to roll 732 six-siders to do anything in this game.

hah, I still have my box of d6's that my players dreaded me pulling out when I ran Shadowrun sessions back in Kansas. I think it is a 500 count box of mini-d6's.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » May 29, 2007, 2:44 pm

I havent seen A LOT about this game, but from what Ive read its pretty good. I hear the fighting is pretty fast. Powerups galore. The way race tech magic powers mix work very well. What I was wondering was that if you need Vista to play with 360 people or do you need vista to play at all online.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 29, 2007, 2:47 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Xatrei wrote:At least you won't have to roll 732 six-siders to do anything in this game.

hah, I still have my box of d6's that my players dreaded me pulling out when I ran Shadowrun sessions back in Kansas. I think it is a 500 count box of mini-d6's.

I think you need vista period, but I could definitely be wrong.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 29, 2007, 3:17 pm

Sionistic wrote:I havent seen A LOT about this game, but from what Ive read its pretty good. I hear the fighting is pretty fast. Powerups galore. The way race tech magic powers mix work very well. What I was wondering was that if you need Vista to play with 360 people or do you need vista to play at all online.

Seeing as the game has no single player (online only), you need Windows LIVE... ergo, you need Vista.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » May 29, 2007, 3:19 pm

I was part of the Windows LIVE gaming Anywhere beta, which ran just fine on XP... if that means anything.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 29, 2007, 3:24 pm

Fash wrote:I was part of the Windows LIVE gaming Anywhere beta, which ran just fine on XP... if that means anything.

From: http://forums.shadowrun.com/forums/thread/53910.aspx

Shadowrun Vista and Games for Windows LIVE FAQ - Updated 16 May 2007

Q: Is the PC version Windows Vista only?
A: Yep. It uses Microsoft's new Games for Windows - LIVE service.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » May 29, 2007, 3:45 pm

I'd be all over a MMORPG adaptation of Shadowrun, but a multi-player only FPS doesn't really do much for me.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » May 29, 2007, 3:54 pm

Xatrei wrote:I'd be all over a MMORPG adaptation of Shadowrun, but a multi-player only FPS doesn't really do much for me.

I loved the Sega Genesis Shadowrun, but other than that I haven't seen any game pull off Shadowrun in a good way.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 29, 2007, 4:12 pm

Sabek wrote:
Xatrei wrote:I'd be all over a MMORPG adaptation of Shadowrun, but a multi-player only FPS doesn't really do much for me.
I loved the Sega Genesis Shadowrun, but other than that I haven't seen any game pull off Shadowrun in a good way.

Yeah, plus I don't think there is much that could/would be done to compete with the fear of Aztechnology that my players had

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » May 29, 2007, 4:56 pm

Come to think of it, Rifts would do the trick for me also. Palladium's mechanics blew for all of their pnp games, but the setting for Rifts was something I always thought was pretty sweet. I'd be down with any cyberpunk style mmo, but I have a fondness for settings that blend supernatural elements with the technology.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 29, 2007, 5:42 pm

FPS gaming has become so tedious lately, I don't really care what type of setting is involved anymore. I saw this and was hoping for a remake of the genesis game, and all I see is yet another FPS. Like killing rats and spiders in any and every fantasy MMO, using my rocket launcher, sniper rifle, and/or my only melee weapon when I run out of bullets is just so uninspired.

I'm ready for something different. The WW2 FPS shooters were a great way to inject some fun into FPS games again, but now that has been completely played to death as well. Perhaps a WW1 FPS? I don't really know what would get me back into paying 50$ to play an FPS again.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 29, 2007, 5:50 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:FPS gaming has become so tedious lately, I don't really care what type of setting is involved anymore. I saw this and was hoping for a remake of the genesis game, and all I see is yet another FPS. Like killing rats and spiders in any and every fantasy MMO, using my rocket launcher, sniper rifle, and/or my only melee weapon when I run out of bullets is just so uninspired.

You don't know a single fucking thing about this game, do you?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 29, 2007, 6:05 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:FPS gaming has become so tedious lately, I don't really care what type of setting is involved anymore. I saw this and was hoping for a remake of the genesis game, and all I see is yet another FPS. Like killing rats and spiders in any and every fantasy MMO, using my rocket launcher, sniper rifle, and/or my only melee weapon when I run out of bullets is just so uninspired.

I'm ready for something different. The WW2 FPS shooters were a great way to inject some fun into FPS games again, but now that has been completely played to death as well. Perhaps a WW1 FPS? I don't really know what would get me back into paying 50$ to play an FPS again.

I disagree, I think there is a good variety and I have gotten more into them lately then I have ever been. You have tactical games like GRAW2 and Rainbow Six Vegas, you have crazy close range combat games like gears, your war games, etc.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » May 30, 2007, 3:43 am

miir wrote:
Fairweather Pure wrote:FPS gaming has become so tedious lately, I don't really care what type of setting is involved anymore. I saw this and was hoping for a remake of the genesis game, and all I see is yet another FPS. Like killing rats and spiders in any and every fantasy MMO, using my rocket launcher, sniper rifle, and/or my only melee weapon when I run out of bullets is just so uninspired.
You don't know a single fucking thing about this game, do you?

"In Shadowrun players vie for supremacy in an intense first-person shooter (FPS) experience that rewards cleverness, cunning and split-second improvisation through a unique combination of modern weapons, ancient magic and advanced technology."

I have no idea how I could think it was yet another FPS. Please correct me.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 30, 2007, 10:54 am

Fairweather Pure wrote:
miir wrote:
Fairweather Pure wrote:FPS gaming has become so tedious lately, I don't really care what type of setting is involved anymore. I saw this and was hoping for a remake of the genesis game, and all I see is yet another FPS. Like killing rats and spiders in any and every fantasy MMO, using my rocket launcher, sniper rifle, and/or my only melee weapon when I run out of bullets is just so uninspired.
You don't know a single fucking thing about this game, do you?

"In Shadowrun players vie for supremacy in an intense first-person shooter (FPS) experience that rewards cleverness, cunning and split-second improvisation through a unique combination of modern weapons, ancient magic and advanced technology."

I have no idea how I could think it was yet another FPS. Please correct me.

I know you aren't stupid so I don't know why you are acting like it. HMM LET'S SEE, MAGIC, MULTIPLE RACES... It has a bit of that thrown in which as far as I know has never happened in a fps.. but because you are bored with fps games it must just be another one.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 30, 2007, 10:58 am

Shadowrun has all the typical elements of a FPS, but the other shit thrown into the mix make it refreshing, different and a lot of fucking fun.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 30, 2007, 6:23 pm

bah, the one place that got their shipment of this near me sold out. (probably because they were the only place that got it!)

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » May 30, 2007, 7:25 pm

I'm mildly curious about this game (still not curious enough to upgrade to Vista for it though!). It looks like only 4 races are represented. In a game that only has 5 player races to begin with, one must wonder what the devs have against Orcs. The game seems to be mostly combat oriented. Does this mean that within the game, your options are limited to traditional melee roles (street samurai, weapons specialist, combat adepts, etc.)? I would expect that the Shadowrun world without Riggers, Deckers/Hackers, Shamans, Technomancers and the like would be rather mundane. At the end of the day, is it mainly just a "blow the shit out of your enemy" romp with some elements borrowed from the Shadowrun universe?

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » May 30, 2007, 11:01 pm

Theres a mod for source called Dystopia. Its an interesting but no very much different fps. You can chose different builds for your character (small medium large, basically they have a balance between armor and speed) and a good selection of mods. (healing, movement, shooting, even decking) Reason why I bring it up is because I think it has a lot of ideas Shadowrun could of incorporated. They are both cyberpunk, just dystopia lacks magic and shadowrun lacks decking. A game using all of that would just be all sorts of awesome.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » May 30, 2007, 11:45 pm

A friend that got a copy today is saying that it reminds him a lot of old school Tribes. I think the bastard is just bringing it up since I mentioned not being able to get a copy...we'll see

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 31, 2007, 2:47 am

Only complaints would be that they're not holding the swords correctly and makes you wonder if there really is a need for a blade for certain races.

Elf and human?

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » May 31, 2007, 4:18 am

That machine gun toting elf's head is way to large for his body.

...but how often do you get to see an elf with a machine gun? That's gotta count for something!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » May 31, 2007, 3:37 pm

I'm not sure if the big gun is an HK227 or an assault rifle (prolly not the FN-HAR, perhaps it's the AK), but the pistol the one guy has is an Ares Predator 2.

It's been... 13 years since I last saw a SR sourcebook. How's that for long-term nerd memory?

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » May 31, 2007, 5:14 pm

Looks kinda cool tho!

Trolls look kewl

Humans VS Elves

Elves are prolly better with swords than Trolls!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » May 31, 2007, 5:53 pm

I decided to pick this up yesterday and I must say I am not disappointed at all.

At first I was worried that the lack of a campaign would make me shelf it pretty quick, but the depth of the online play is definately going to keep me playing it.

Just imagine, getting shot at and almost being dead - and being able to warp through the wall and then fly up on top of the building to escape harms way.

I think if you are on the fence about this game you should definately pick it up! I was lucky to get the last copy my local gamestop had.

miir · Post by **miir** » May 31, 2007, 8:23 pm

I beta'd it early on and I was impressed.
I'll be grabbing it this weekend to play on Vista!!

I'll look forward to kicking your ass (or kicking asses with you) Funk.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » May 31, 2007, 8:33 pm

Are the practice modes any good?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 1, 2007, 11:09 am

miir - definately give me a shout, I'll make sure and be on live messenger so you can get a hold of me (I have to check what it is and get back to you) would be a pleasure to play with / against you!

Lynks - Yes. They are not very long - there are 6 that are probably about 10 - 15 minutes each but they do a good job of familiarizing you with things new to this genre (mostly the magic stuff) I would definitely recommend going through them.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » June 1, 2007, 2:50 pm

Bah, I just noticed you need Vista to play this.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 1, 2007, 2:52 pm

masteen wrote:Bah, I just noticed you need Vista to play this.

Yeah, I think it's kind of screwed up to have a Vista Only game out this soon, but I honestly can't remember how long it took for XP only games to come out. I was already planning on upgrading to Vista, and then upgrading my video card later this summer anyhow. I might go ahead and get the 360 version on the way home from work though...I don't think my 7600 GT would be good enough to run this in Vista

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 1, 2007, 2:56 pm

Boogahz wrote:
masteen wrote:Bah, I just noticed you need Vista to play this.
Yeah, I think it's kind of screwed up to have a Vista Only game out this soon, but I honestly can't remember how long it took for XP only games to come out. I was already planning on upgrading to Vista, and then upgrading my video card later this summer anyhow. I might go ahead and get the 360 version on the way home from work though...I don't think my 7600 GT would be good enough to run this in Vista

DO IT! None of the people I normally play with have picked this up yet so I am looking for a few people to play online with. Send me a chat or message on the 360 if you decide to pick it up.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 1, 2007, 3:36 pm

I'm getting it either way. I just haven't made up my mind whether to go ahead and upgrade to Vista and get the PC version or just go with the 360 version. As much as I played Gears of War and R6: Vegas on the 360, I'm not much of a fan of console FPS's. That's one reason I was looking forward to playing Shadowrun with some friends that do like the console for games like this.

miir · Post by **miir** » June 1, 2007, 3:58 pm

The box on my desk is driving me nuts.
I wanna go home and play!!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 1, 2007, 4:10 pm

miir wrote:The box on my desk is driving me nuts.
I wanna go home and play!!

I hate that! I always try to avoid buying games on my way to work or during work cause I do the same thing! productivity goes down faster than a cheap whore.

Denadeb · Post by **Denadeb** » June 1, 2007, 4:18 pm

I have been thinking of picking this up myself for the 360. Might see if I can find somewhere to rent it first before buying it.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 2, 2007, 3:54 am

Ok, got home a little while ago and just finished installing vista ultimate on my primary machine. Going to install the PC version of Shadowrun now. I probably won't play much until later this weekend since I will be going in for some OT tomorrow.

My LiveID is corin12

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 3, 2007, 12:51 pm

I'm disappointed. This game feels like it is only half-finished, on the PC at least. Very little "feels" like Shadowrun. The setting is a stretch, the races are...eh, they're there, weapons...well, the minigun is there, but there is so much more they could have included in this game. I know my expectations were high, but this setting would work MUCH better as an MMO than a FPS.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 3, 2007, 7:01 pm

Main difference between Trolls and Elves beside the model?

Different magics? More HP? Beefier? Elves much faster movement?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 3, 2007, 7:32 pm

Basics:

Elves get faster movement, quicker healing when standing still.

Trolls are bigger and stronger, they also develop crystals on their bodies when taking damage which acts as additional armor.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » June 3, 2007, 7:45 pm

And Orcs? Get an extra buff called "Bloodlust"?

Best meleedamage = Trolls?

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » June 4, 2007, 8:18 am

sigh, you guys are going to make me order this for my 360, aren't you?

Newegg's price: 52.99 w/ 5 shipping.

miir · Post by **miir** » June 4, 2007, 11:33 am

This Windows Live bullshit is so annoying.
I'm not going to have a lot of time to play in the next few weeks so I held off on using my 'free' month of gold and was forced to suffer through using silver to connect to games this weekend.
I only saw a max of 5 public dedicated servers on the weekend... and half the time I couldn't even connect to them. When I did manage to get into a game it was pretty damn fun.

I can see value in a gold membership for xbox users but for PC there are only 2 games available on Live... Halo 2 and Shadowrun. And there's no way I'm gonna pay a premium box price for a fucking 3 year old console port. What the fuck were they thinking???

Fuck Microsoft.
If they really wanted to encourage PC gamers to buy into their Live service, they should offer a minium of 3 months free Gold membership for the first few games released. Especially when PC gamers have hundreds and hundreds of top quality, FREE online (FPS, RTS, Racing, etc) games already available.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » June 4, 2007, 12:09 pm

That's part of the reason I feel the PC version was done as an afterthought. I expected far more. I just hope that the key isn't tied to my Live account, because I am considering giving it to my sister's boyfriend.

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » June 7, 2007, 6:38 pm

rellix2 on 360

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » June 7, 2007, 6:49 pm

I was thinking about playing some tonight, i'll catch you then if you are on.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » June 7, 2007, 9:03 pm

I'll be playnig this tonight after I finish tutorial 6 =)

Mr Bacon · Post by **Mr Bacon** » June 8, 2007, 8:21 am

I played with miir and funk last night.. no sign of animalor!