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I think the Cardinals, Bengals, and the Lions all belong in a different league by themselves. Probably the most consistenty poorly run franchises in football.
You talk to a lot of people that grew up in St. Louis and most of them like the local teams. Cardinals baseball, Blues hockey, but most of us liked football teams outside of St. Louis because Bidwell was a dick and this was when they had the likes of Jim Hart, Roger Werli (who belongs in the Hall), Dan Dierdorf, and Jackie Smith. I remember St. Louis was ready to kick Bidwell to the curb several years before he actually left and I think people had no problem holding the door for him on the way out.
Just sorry you got stuck with him.
You talk to a lot of people that grew up in St. Louis and most of them like the local teams. Cardinals baseball, Blues hockey, but most of us liked football teams outside of St. Louis because Bidwell was a dick and this was when they had the likes of Jim Hart, Roger Werli (who belongs in the Hall), Dan Dierdorf, and Jackie Smith. I remember St. Louis was ready to kick Bidwell to the curb several years before he actually left and I think people had no problem holding the door for him on the way out.
Just sorry you got stuck with him.
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Roger Werli was a good player, aye.
If the Cards were to move again, that might just be a record for number of cities for one team: 4 (Chicago, St Louis, Arizona, TBD). Unless I am mistaken, 3 is the max, and, btw, there is currently a logjam at that number of cities: the baseball Braves (Boston, Milwaukee, Atlanta), the football Rams (Cleveland, LA, St Louis), the basketball Kings (Cincinati Royals, KC, Sacramento), and the basketball Clippers (Bufallo Braves, SD, LA). One could even argue the football Raiders could be this list (Oakland, LA, Oakland). I may have missed a couple (were the warriors somewhere else before being in Philadelphia? plus, I forget what the hockey Devils path was), and I wasnt considering now defunct teams, like the USFL football Breakers (Boston, New Orleans, Portland).
But I cannot think of any major North American pro teams that have been in 4 cities. Can anyone think of one?
If the Cards were to move again, that might just be a record for number of cities for one team: 4 (Chicago, St Louis, Arizona, TBD). Unless I am mistaken, 3 is the max, and, btw, there is currently a logjam at that number of cities: the baseball Braves (Boston, Milwaukee, Atlanta), the football Rams (Cleveland, LA, St Louis), the basketball Kings (Cincinati Royals, KC, Sacramento), and the basketball Clippers (Bufallo Braves, SD, LA). One could even argue the football Raiders could be this list (Oakland, LA, Oakland). I may have missed a couple (were the warriors somewhere else before being in Philadelphia? plus, I forget what the hockey Devils path was), and I wasnt considering now defunct teams, like the USFL football Breakers (Boston, New Orleans, Portland).
But I cannot think of any major North American pro teams that have been in 4 cities. Can anyone think of one?
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The Cardinals are building a new stadium in Arizona. It took them forever to get the new stadium approved but we're stuck with this football team now. Bidwell is teh suck.
Stick with the Arizona Diamondbacks and Phoenix Suns, both owned by Jerry Colangelo, and you'll at least have an owner that tries to put winning teams on the field.
Stick with the Arizona Diamondbacks and Phoenix Suns, both owned by Jerry Colangelo, and you'll at least have an owner that tries to put winning teams on the field.