Joe Rogan Calls out Mencia

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 16, 2007, 3:25 pm

Warning *NWS*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NhrTOiLw0I

I thought this was pretty entertaining. I'm not a huge Joe Rogan fan, but I do like it when people aren't afriad to call someone out. In public. At thier own performance. On video.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 16, 2007, 3:40 pm

I have no idea who either of these people are... but I do know that link is definately NWS.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 16, 2007, 3:46 pm

They are comedians, both of them have or had television shows. Joe Rogan is funny and hosted Fear Factor for a number of years, Carlos Mencia is not at all funny and has a show called Mind of Mencia on Comedy Central.

I am interested in checking this link out as soon as I'm at a computer that can access YouTube.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 16, 2007, 4:27 pm

I once watched 20 minutes of Mind of Mencia before turning it off and vowing never to waste my time on such crap humour. I kept wondering when it was going to get funny. The entire set seemed to revolve around the following joke.

BEANERS ARE LAZY LOLOLOLOLOLOL

For half an hour straight.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 16, 2007, 4:37 pm

For anyone interested in comedy, I just read this article about "plagiarism" in comedy. It's pretty interesting, and calls out some pretty high-profile comics including Robin Williams, Denis Leary and Dane Cook.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » February 16, 2007, 4:47 pm

Dane Cook is a terrible comedian. Terrible.

I haven't laughed at Mencia in a long while either. And while I do like Joe Rogan a bit, I did think his stint on The Man Show was pretty wasted.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » February 16, 2007, 4:48 pm

Denis Leary's stealing of Bill Hick's material over the years has caused me to detest him beyond belief. I found this out a few years ago reading a book about Bill Hicks, checked up on it and was bitterly disappointed.

That article downplays it, which is bullshit, because if you actually listen to it it's unmistakably ripped off.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » February 16, 2007, 4:48 pm

Mencia stole a bit from a local radio show down here (Paul and Young Ron, for any south Floridians) called "Stereotype Olympics"

the bit itself was lame as hell... but they told Mencia about the idea and said he was welcome to do his own version as long as he gave them props on Comedy Central. A few weeks later he did the bit VERBATIM on his show and introduced it as being entirely his creation.. he hasnt been on the radio show since ;P

I didnt see the video but I know Joe Rogan's claim that hes basically posing as a Mexican as a gimmick. Carlos Mencia's real name is Ned... so thats all you have to tell me. Rogan has also called out Dane Cook in the past for the plagiarism but I cant remember anything about it.

edit: oh... an entire conversation occured about Cook as i was typing that.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » February 16, 2007, 4:52 pm

while were on the subject of Cook though.. theres a video on the net somewhere of this guy impersonating him which I found to be 50 times more hilarious than any of his actual stuff.

i'm at work so most video sites are blocked but google it!

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » February 16, 2007, 4:53 pm

I will second Dane Cook not being remotely funny.. Im not a huge fan of mencia either.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 16, 2007, 4:55 pm

I know Joe Rogan's claim that hes basically posing as a Mexican as a gimmick. Carlos Mencia's real name is Ned... so thats all you have to tell me

I did a few seconds of research to find out that he was born in Honduras, raised by his aunt Consuelo and uncle Pablo in Los Angeles. His father is from Honduras and his mother from Mexico.

I took a look at some of his standup and I didn't find it very funny.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 16, 2007, 5:29 pm

miir wrote:I took a look at some of his standup and I didn't find it very funny.

Probably because it's way too honest for you.

Me, I just don't like him because he's not funny. One of Dave Chappelle's concerts I went to, not long after he got back from Africa, he was commenting on Mind of Mencia. He said something about Comedy Central ripping off his show while he was gone, and replacing him with someone who wasn't funny. He went on to rip on Mencia for a few minutes, it was pretty funny and totally spot-on.

Traz-KOE · Post by **Traz-KOE** » February 16, 2007, 5:57 pm

Take a Joke America was pretty funny to me. Mind of Mencia doesn't strike me in the same way, or really at all.

Also, Dane Cook is a poser.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » February 16, 2007, 6:18 pm

Sylvus wrote:
miir wrote:I took a look at some of his standup and I didn't find it very funny.
Probably because it's way too honest for you.

Me, I just don't like him because he's not funny. One of Dave Chappelle's concerts I went to, not long after he got back from Africa, he was commenting on Mind of Mencia. He said something about Comedy Central ripping off his show while he was gone, and replacing him with someone who wasn't funny. He went on to rip on Mencia for a few minutes, it was pretty funny and totally spot-on.

Yeah thats always the feeling I got with Mind of Mencia, he was a really shitty mexican rip off of Dave Chappelle.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » February 16, 2007, 6:57 pm

Rogan is not someone you would ever want to mess with, he trains hard and often with some of the best MMA talent in the world

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » February 16, 2007, 8:02 pm

Joe Rogan is an unfunny prick. So is Carlos Mencia. So is Dane Cook.

Rogan's definitely got the best of it in this exchange, though. But he's still a man who gets baited into email flame wars where he brags about how famous he is.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 17, 2007, 1:36 am

Sylvus wrote:
miir wrote:I took a look at some of his standup and I didn't find it very funny.
Probably because it's way too honest for you.

Me, I just don't like him because he's not funny. One of Dave Chappelle's concerts I went to, not long after he got back from Africa, he was commenting on Mind of Mencia. He said something about Comedy Central ripping off his show while he was gone, and replacing him with someone who wasn't funny. He went on to rip on Mencia for a few minutes, it was pretty funny and totally spot-on.

Damn that's a great link. Thanks for the memories lol.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » February 17, 2007, 5:08 pm

I loved the video. Carlos Mencia has always just sort of annoyed me. It's really in the way the joke is delivered. Dave Chappelle is laid back, makes his racial stereotypes funny and lighthearted, whereas Mencia tries to bash you over the head with them. Like the time Jon Mayer came on, and they showed the types of music that different races listen to, that is a prime example of Chappelle's humor. Mencia just goes for the throat in his comedic exchanges.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » February 17, 2007, 5:51 pm

Dane Cook is a terrible comedian. Terrible.

Couldn't agree more. After watching his "Tourgasm" on HBO I have also concluded that he is a whiny little bitch.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » February 20, 2007, 8:54 pm

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CARLOS MENCIA

Hahaha

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » February 20, 2007, 9:32 pm

Thats hilarious.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » February 21, 2007, 8:08 pm

from Joe Rogan's site...

So, now I'm banned from the comedy store.
Posted by Joe Rogan on Wed, Feb 14th, 2007 07:26pm
The aftermath of the video of me clowning Carlos Mencia and exposing him for being a joke thief released its havoc on the internet like a tidal wave of exposure and comic justice.
Unfortunately, it also got me banned from the club.

I got a call from Mitzi Shore the owner of the comedy store yesterday, and she wanted to hear my side of things.
I told her what happened on Saturday night with the whole Carlos thing, and she told me that she would try to work it out.
She called me back today to give me a spot tonight at 10pm, and said that Carlos and I would just have to avoid each other around the store.
She asked me what times I wanted to go on stage this weekend, and I said as long as I got on before Carlos I didn’t care. I said thank you, and hung up.
Then I get a call from Tommy the manager of the club an hour later.
He told me that “they” had decided I needed to “take a break” from the store, and that Carlos was physically threatened by me, and worried about me being around.
That, and they’re upset at me for putting the video up on the internet because they had asked me to stop filming my internet reality show “the JoeShow” at the club.
They also said that Carlos apologized for the weekend, and said that they could advertise that he would be performing there this weekend.

Now, I know this isn’t coming from Mitzi, because I had just talked to her an hour before, so I’m assuming it’s her sons that have made the decision to have Carlos there and keep me out.
Mitzi’s health hasn’t been well over the last years, and slowly her sons have assumed the role of taking over the club.
Whether the decision is financial, because they can sell a ton of tickets with Carlos, or whether it’s personal, because Pauly and I have never really liked each other, either way, it is what it is.

It’s also indicative of this massive problem we have in the comedy community in general.
Here you have a club that basically sells other people’s art. They put the chairs there, sell the drinks and turn the mic on, and the artists do the rest. You have a situation where a comic that’s been known for stealing other people material gets called out onstage, exposed, and then the video is put on the internet for all to see, and their reaction is to ban the guy that exposed him and made the video. To the thief, they sit back quietly and profit from his crime.
It’s truly fucking mind blowing.
There’s not another art form in the world where the creative rights of the artist get as little respect.
If they banned the both of us for this incident, then I would understand that they're just trying to avoid conflict, but the fact that they have told me to "take a break" but they have him onstage this weekend is just a tremendous slap in the face to me, and to the art of stand up comedy.

The first thing I did when I got the call, is to phone my friend Rita over at the Improv in Hollywood and ask if I could get on there this weekend. She bent over backwards to accommodate me, and gave me spots for Thursday night at 10, Friday at 8:30, and Saturday at 10. To her, and Joel over there, I say thank you very much. I truly appreciate the support.
If anyone wants to see me this weekend, that’s where I’ll be performing.

If you want to come down and show your support and have a good time, the address for and phone number for the improv is:

323 651 5810
Hollywood Improv
8162 Melrose ave. Hollywood, CA

I’ve been working out at the comedy store now for almost 13 years, and I’ve always wondered when it was all going to end.
The comics have always speculated that when Mitzi dies the sons would probably turn the place into a parking lot. We always used to sit around talking after the show was over, wondering where we would perform in LA when the end came.
The place was even one of the reasons why I still lived in LA. I would go on the road to certain places and think about moving there, but I could never find a club that I could work out at that was anything like the store.
There’s really no place like it. At one point and time it was a mob run nightclub owned by Bugsy Segal, and the building radiates this weird energy from the years of performers, criminals, customers and experiences.
It’s an energy vortex, and a magnet for crazies. That was one of the best things about filming my reality show there, it was just guaranteed that you would get nutty people to talk to there. They’re just drawn to the place, like moths to a light bulb.

The problem is, Mitzi was always the one that kept the place together.
She’s the one with the true love of stand up comedy. She created it, she nurtured it, and she supported the art form.
As she fades, so does the essence of the club. For me at least, this decision by whoever is in charge over there now to have me “take a break” is the last sign I needed to see that the end is nigh.
It’s been a great time, but like all great times it must eventually end.
I think the way it ended, with a video seen by millions of people is just about a perfect way to go. It’s almost fitting that I get banned from there, because it makes no sense.
Nothing about the comedy store has ever made sense.
That was always a part of the beauty of the place.

If you feel like calling them and expressing your disapproval, or perhaps thanking them for banning me, the number there is 323 656 6225 info@comedystore.com

Unfortunately, this is probably the last time you'll see my name on the Marquee there. It's been great!!

and...

My agent dropped me because of the Carlos™
Posted by Joe Rogan on Thu, Feb 15th, 2007 06:14pm
This is starting to get hysterical.
As the fearful little animals scamper to a safe, dry spot on the sinking ship of lies, characters are exposed and karma is radiantly beautiful.

My agent from the Gersh agency, who is the same guy that represents Carlos, spoke to me on the phone today. He told me that he was being "put in the middle of this thing, and forced to make a choice." He said that Carlos wanted to get on the phone with me and end this once and for all, and get this... wanted an apology.
If I didn't do this, he wanted the Gersh agency to either drop me, or he would leave them.

I told them that was fucking hilarious, and said that it's been fun working with them. The fact that they would even consider asking me to do something like that meant I was going to leave them anyway, but the sheer stereotypical "hollywood" nature of conversation actually fucking shocked me.
It was like a scene in a movie. Not even a current movie. More like that Kevin Bacon movie "The Big Picture" that was about the evils of Hollywood from the early 90's.

I hung up the phone and laughed out loud. A real, hard, pleasure filled laugh.

Now can you IMAGINE if I was a young, struggling comic and all this shit went down? THAT is the really ugly part of it.
Now you know why people don't speak up about this shit.

Hollywood eats it's young.
At least the Gersh agency does.

What a fascinating, and intriguing life this is turning out to be.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 22, 2007, 1:30 am

Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » February 22, 2007, 12:20 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.

The only thing deep about you is your well of stupidity.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 22, 2007, 1:40 pm

midnyte only tolerates role models that are addicted to prescription pain killers or anabolic steroids. marijuana is illegal!

the festering pit of his hypocrisy is pretty deep too.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 22, 2007, 1:52 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.

It was easily as lucid and coherent as anything that you have ever posted. Joe Rogan is in great shape and is a competitive martial artist. In my experience, those signs usually point away from being a pothead.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 22, 2007, 4:05 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.
It was easily as lucid and coherent as anything that you have ever posted. Joe Rogan is in great shape and is a competitive martial artist. In my experience, those signs usually point away from being a pothead.

I'm not sure what his karate has to do with my opinion of his words. He sounds like a pothead who thinks what he is saying is uber intelligent and profound, but isn't.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 22, 2007, 4:12 pm

kyoukan wrote:midnyte only tolerates role models that are addicted to prescription pain killers or anabolic steroids. marijuana is illegal!

the festering pit of his hypocrisy is pretty deep too.

Who are you talking about? Don't presume to know me, because you don't.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » February 22, 2007, 4:19 pm

I'm a pot-head and you sir, are incorrect in your assessment. It was entirely too focused on one point. If he were a true pot-head, by the end of his post he would have been talking about how our bodies are each whole universes carrying billions of lifeforms and that the entire universe is an infinite fractal continuously oscillating throughout eternity.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 22, 2007, 4:42 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:midnyte only tolerates role models that are addicted to prescription pain killers or anabolic steroids. marijuana is illegal!

the festering pit of his hypocrisy is pretty deep too.
Who are you talking about? Don't presume to know me, because you don't.

You've made your stance on marijuana vs. steroids and pain killers pretty clear throughout your tenure here.

I'm not sure what his karate has to do with my opinion of his words. He sounds like a pothead who thinks what he is saying is uber intelligent and profound, but isn't.

I was trying to point out that I didn't think he was a pothead and I didn't think what he said sounded like something that a pothead would write. I was also implying that you don't seem to really have any idea what a pothead sounds like. I'm also not sure what part of either of those postings makes you think that he thinks he's "uber intelligent" or profound. Was it his use of a metaphor?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 22, 2007, 5:24 pm

Sylvus wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
kyoukan wrote:midnyte only tolerates role models that are addicted to prescription pain killers or anabolic steroids. marijuana is illegal!

the festering pit of his hypocrisy is pretty deep too.
Who are you talking about? Don't presume to know me, because you don't.
You've made your stance on marijuana vs. steroids and pain killers pretty clear throughout your tenure here.

I'm not sure what his karate has to do with my opinion of his words. He sounds like a pothead who thinks what he is saying is uber intelligent and profound, but isn't.
I was trying to point out that I didn't think he was a pothead and I didn't think what he said sounded like something that a pothead would write. I was also implying that you don't seem to really have any idea what a pothead sounds like. I'm also not sure what part of either of those postings makes you think that he thinks he's "uber intelligent" or profound. Was it his use of a metaphor?

I scanned through those links and I'm unable to find the part where I said that painkillers and steroids are cool and acceptable and pot is uber bad. My brother happens to be a regular user of Pot and I love him no less. He knows how I feel and I know how he feels, but I don't draw lines in the sand like some of you do.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » February 22, 2007, 5:46 pm

Midnyte, quit with this act. It's old, it's stupid, and it's boring.

Come up with something 'new and profound,' cause this act you pull here is tired.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 22, 2007, 5:54 pm

Truant wrote:Midnyte, quit with this act. It's old, it's stupid, and it's boring.

Come up with something 'new and profound,' cause this act you pull here is tired.

What act? I don't understand what you mean. I'm responding to what Sylvus said.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » February 22, 2007, 7:19 pm

Wow. Just wow.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » February 22, 2007, 7:57 pm

Where did weed ever enter this conversation? Is Joe Rogan a pothead? Is that common knowledge that I'm missing out on? I'm confused.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » February 22, 2007, 8:02 pm

Rogan posted those articles, someone copied them here. Midnyte said he sounded like a pothead. Typical derailment ensued.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » February 22, 2007, 8:34 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.

What are the characteristics of "sounding like a pot-head?" Is there a check list somewhere I can read so I can tell when someone "sounds like a pot-head?"

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 22, 2007, 8:44 pm

Vetiria wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.
What are the characteristics of "sounding like a pot-head?" Is there a check list somewhere I can read so I can tell when someone "sounds like a pot-head?"

Go through a good portion of adulthood NOT as one and you'll be able to pick up on their musings and vomit indusing "deep" and profound ramblings, quite easily.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » February 22, 2007, 8:48 pm

Heh. You're a joke.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » February 23, 2007, 12:46 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Vetiria wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.
What are the characteristics of "sounding like a pot-head?" Is there a check list somewhere I can read so I can tell when someone "sounds like a pot-head?"
Go through a good portion of adulthood NOT as one and you'll be able to pick up on their musings and vomit indusing "deep" and profound ramblings, quite easily.

Smoking pot has nothing to do with intelligence. For example, I smoke and I'm still a genius, you don't smoke and you're still an imbecile.

case closed.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 23, 2007, 1:38 am

Xyun wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Vetiria wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.
What are the characteristics of "sounding like a pot-head?" Is there a check list somewhere I can read so I can tell when someone "sounds like a pot-head?"
Go through a good portion of adulthood NOT as one and you'll be able to pick up on their musings and vomit indusing "deep" and profound ramblings, quite easily.

Smoking pot has nothing to do with intelligence. For example, I smoke and I'm still a genius, you don't smoke and you're still an imbecile.

case closed.

Exactly.

Al · Post by Al » February 23, 2007, 10:15 am

Vetiria wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Sounds like the "deep" thoughts of a pot-head.
What are the characteristics of "sounding like a pot-head?" Is there a check list somewhere I can read so I can tell when someone "sounds like a pot-head?"

I'm not sure what part of the post Mid is talking about, but if there is only one thing I have learned in my brief life, it is that Midnyte_Ragebringer always knows what he is talking about. Joe Rogan is a doper, plain and simple.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » February 23, 2007, 2:01 pm

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » February 23, 2007, 11:33 pm

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CARLOS MENCIA

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 23, 2007, 11:50 pm

O ho! "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CARLOS MENCIA"

WTFLOL?!

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » February 24, 2007, 12:49 am

LOLWTFLOL?!??!

Janx · Post by **Janx** » February 24, 2007, 10:34 am

Who is this carlos person? Thought his name was Ned.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » March 21, 2007, 3:54 pm

http://www.wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=2052

Mencia rips off Cosby in video at link above. Why does he still even have a show?

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » March 21, 2007, 4:17 pm

When haven't comedians stolen from other comedians? I thought it was pretty much a time honoured tradition. Take a good idea...give it your twist,
Like "The Aristocrats."

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » March 21, 2007, 4:33 pm

Normally I would agree with you, but Mencia hardly has any of his own material. He is a worthless mexican rip off of Chappelle for the most part.