This would be a really effective treatment if basically every single criminal behaviourist hasn't already stated that child molestation has absolutely anything to do with sex itself and is all about dominance and fear.
Supporters of chemical castration cite the success of the procedure in European countries. According to Hoge, the repeat offender rate among child molesters in Europe has dropped from almost 100 percent to just 2 percent. However, the procedure, which also has been used effectively in Canada, is not mandated by law in those countries as it will be in California. That critical difference, say many social, legal, and medical experts, has serious medical and legal implications.
Seems to be doing OK in Canada.
For years, a notorious Texas inmate, Larry Don McQuay, begged the state to castrate him, saying he had molested over 200 children and would resume when released from prison. There were also experts like Dr. Fred Berlin, founder of the Sexual Disorders Clinic at Johns Hopkins University, who noted that molesters may have a recidivism rate as high as 65%.
Dr. Berlin cited domestic and European studies in which the recidivism rate fell below 15% when participants were chemically castrated.
you can't base recidivism statistics for any crime with the US and any other modern nation, with your pathetic joke of a penal system. of course sex offenders offend less often when released from a canadian or european prison. attempts are actually made to rehabilitate them during their time in jail as opposed to encouraging them to become more of a criminal.
Chemical castration isn't effective at treating rapists. It does work on sexual abusers of children. Rape is about dominance/anger, sexual abuse of children can be either fundamentally misdirected sexual response or rape. In cases where it is sexual response chemical castration can be effective.
The problem is the statutes don't always reflect the behavioral roots of the crime. So it depends on how you define "sexual predator." Rapists use sex as a weapon but can be triggered by any frustration. Pedophiles are triggered by sexual desire. And of course there can be crossover both ways.
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It's better than the option I think I heard during the Texas Gov's inauguration speech...It was basically a two-strikes and you're out [for good] option.
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I think I like the Texas version.....as long as the 3rd strike ends up with a bullet.
Buuuuut Kilmoll.. We have to be forgiving of everyone and not pass judgement or treat anyone differently, I mean lets face it they probably can't help that they feel this way.and us doing anything like that would be so terrible I can't even bear to think about it.
Can't we all just hold hands and dance in a field of daisies? I really wish that we could.
It was actually the Lt. Gov. that mentioned the legislation in his inauguration address:
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We know, for instance, that there are many violent crimes, but perhaps none more insidious than violent sex crimes against our children. Today, we have 46,000 registered sex offenders walking our streets in Texas, and more than half have victimized children.
Every single instance of this crime strikes at the heart of our civil society. And yet under Texas law, a first offense can result in as little as probation. That’s not deterrence. That’s a disgrace.
And we will not wait for more lost lives, shattered innocence, and broken families before we bring ultimate justice to these monsters.
That’s why I asked Mark Lunsford to be with us today. Mark lost his beautiful daughter Jessica to the hands of a repeat sex-offender, and I cannot imagine the pain he has gone through.
The horror of this crime has sparked a revolution in the way we punish these predators. Twenty-six states have passed a Jessica’s Law. And Mark, I want you to know that Texas is going to have its own Jessica’s Law.
Our law will do justice to the memory of your daughter and every child who has been made a victim. As part of Texas Children First, I am proposing the toughest sexual predator law in the nation.
If you’re convicted of a sexually violent crime against a child under 14 here in Texas,
you’re going to jail for a minimum of 25 years, with lifetime GPS monitoring if you get out. We’re going to have our eyes on you 24/7.
And if you ever get out and, God forbid, you do it a second time, prosecutors will be able to seek the death penalty. Two strikes and you’re out – forever.
Our message is this: There’s tough. And then there’s Texas tough. And if you’re going to commit an unthinkable crime against a child, we’ll show you what Texas tough means.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I think I like the Texas version.....as long as the 3rd strike ends up with a bullet.
You obviously need to work on your reading comprehension. If it was stated as 2 strikes and you're out, please explain to me how there could possibly be a 3rd strike?
I don't necessarily agree with mandatory sentences for first offenders. As we've seen with that kid in Georgia, they don't always work as intended.
But I absolutely agree with the hammer coming down for repeat offenders.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I think I like the Texas version.....as long as the 3rd strike ends up with a bullet.
You obviously need to work on your reading comprehension. If it was stated as 2 strikes and you're out, please explain to me how there could possibly be a 3rd strike?
Maybe he wants them to shoot the corpse if it somehow comes back and commits the same crime again?
Arborealus wrote:Chemical castration isn't effective at treating rapists. It does work on sexual abusers of children. Rape is about dominance/anger, sexual abuse of children can be either fundamentally misdirected sexual response
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I think I like the Texas version.....as long as the 3rd strike ends up with a bullet.
You obviously need to work on your reading comprehension. If it was stated as 2 strikes and you're out, please explain to me how there could possibly be a 3rd strike?
Maybe he wants them to shoot the corpse if it somehow comes back and commits the same crime again?
House approves death penalty for repeat sex offenders
3/6/2007 9:38 AM
By: Associated Press
Hardcore child molesters could face the death penalty in Texas under a bill given preliminary approval Monday by the state House of Representatives. The bills, HB 8 and SB 5 are designed to crack down on sex offenders who repeatedly prey on children.
The House voted to create a new category of crime – continual sexual abuse of a young child or children. It carries a minimum of 25 years to life in prison and possibly the death penalty for a second offense.
The bill represented a compromise after the House delayed voting on a broader death penalty provision. They had constitutional concerns and worries it might lead some molesters to kill their victims.
Lawmakers say they talked with district attorneys, defense lawyers and victim advocacy groups before coming back for a vote.
The bill is named Jessica's Law after Jessica Lunsford, a Florida girl who was abducted and killed. The Texas version would make the Lone Star State the sixth to allow some child sex offenders to be sentenced to death.
Lawmakers created a “Romeo and Juliet'' exception to avoid prosecuting a situation that might be a high school romance. That could still be punishable under statutory rape laws, but not the new, harsher continual assault law.
The bill also removes the statute of limitations for many sex crimes against children, including indecency with a child and aggravated sexual assault. The current limit to bring charges is 10 years after the victim's 18th birthday.
The death penalty won't be a deterrent for a sex offender to commit a crime, but it could be more of an incentive for them to start killing their victims so they have less of a chance of getting caught. I think this is a terrible idea.
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Lalanae wrote:The death penalty won't be a deterrent for a sex offender to commit a crime, but it could be more of an incentive for them to start killing their victims so they have less of a chance of getting caught. I think this is a terrible idea.
The way that I understand it is that the death penalty was left in for "continual sexual abuse of a young child or children." It was removed as a two-strike punishment as it was originally promoted to be.
