Bird people, help!

Post by **pyrella** » August 15, 2006, 2:48 pm

What the fuck is this? I was in front of the mall yesterday, and out of a big group of pigeons, this thing came strutting out.

Hawk, Falcon? Double Winged Big Clawed Pecker?

http://ixtlanguild.org/gallery/album11/P1010634

Splatter · Post by **Splatter** » August 15, 2006, 3:06 pm

Looks like a young Red Shouldered Hawk

Canoe · Post by **Canoe** » August 15, 2006, 3:30 pm

I think he might be right - when they are young their heads are darker (when they get older, kind of like a bald eagle, their heads get very light).

Tough to tell without seeing the back real well tho - should have been a pretty standout red from behind.

Here is a pretty good picture of one - looks very similar:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... en%26lr%3D

Neost · Post by **Neost** » August 15, 2006, 3:31 pm

http://kaweahoaks.com/html/hawk_rshld.html

It does appear to be red shouldered hawk.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » August 15, 2006, 3:48 pm

uh hey idiots, thats clearly a mutant pigeon. i went to bird school

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 15, 2006, 4:45 pm

Is it legal or illegal to throw a rock at it?

I think what Py is getting at is that he doesn't want to get thrown in the slammer for attacking a protected bird.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » August 15, 2006, 5:27 pm

Red Shouldered Hawk...5yrs +5k minimum for chucking rocks...He was prolly feeding on the pigeons...

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » August 16, 2006, 2:58 am

Its quite obviose that it's a

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 16, 2006, 10:01 am

I really don't think thats a red-shouldered hawk. Its chest isnt the same.

It may be Harris' or Bay Winged Hawk found in south western part of the US.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » August 16, 2006, 12:00 pm

Maybe he fell out his nest and was taken in by a kind hearted mother pigeon and is being raised as her own. Sounds like a children's book to me

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » August 16, 2006, 12:26 pm

its an owl

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 16, 2006, 12:36 pm

*~*stragi*~* wrote:its an owl

ORLY?

MooZilla · Post by **MooZilla** » August 16, 2006, 4:26 pm

pyrella wrote:What the fuck is this? I was in front of the mall yesterday, and out of a big group of pigeons, this thing came strutting out.

Hawk, Falcon? Double Winged Big Clawed Pecker?

http://ixtlanguild.org/gallery/album11/P1010634

it's a double winged big clawed pecker. forget all this nonsense about hawks.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » August 16, 2006, 4:32 pm

Boogahz wrote:
*~*stragi*~* wrote:its an owl
ORLY?

YA RLY

masteen · Post by **masteen** » August 16, 2006, 5:21 pm

The Cubans call them kli-kli hawks. One hit a power line and fell into my mom's yard. We took it to the bird sanctuary, but it still died

Deward · Post by **Deward** » August 16, 2006, 6:08 pm

It is almost impossible to tell what kind of hawk it is. Almost all breeds of hawks look exactly the same when they are young. It is very difficult to tell them apart.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » August 17, 2006, 3:19 pm

Lynks wrote:I really don't think thats a red-shouldered hawk. Its chest isnt the same.

It may be Harris' or Bay Winged Hawk found in south western part of the US.

Erp, well in the Mississippi Flyway that would be a Red-Shouldered...I forget about the great divide sometimes...

Splatter · Post by **Splatter** » August 17, 2006, 6:32 pm

Arborealus wrote:
Lynks wrote:I really don't think thats a red-shouldered hawk. Its chest isnt the same.

It may be Harris' or Bay Winged Hawk found in south western part of the US.
Erp, well in the Mississippi Flyway that would be a Red-Shouldered...I forget about the great divide sometimes...

The Red Shouldered can also be found on the west coast of Cali.

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » August 17, 2006, 7:30 pm

Splatter wrote:
Arborealus wrote:
Lynks wrote:I really don't think thats a red-shouldered hawk. Its chest isnt the same.

It may be Harris' or Bay Winged Hawk found in south western part of the US.
Erp, well in the Mississippi Flyway that would be a Red-Shouldered...I forget about the great divide sometimes...
The Red Shouldered can also be found on the west coast of Cali.

Right but I was only IDing it based on my Hawks...I dunno the Harris' or Bay Winged...at all...

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » August 17, 2006, 7:30 pm

Arborealus wrote:Red Shouldered Hawk...5yrs +5k minimum for chucking rocks...

What if you miss?

Arborealus · Post by **Arborealus** » August 17, 2006, 9:05 pm

Aslanna wrote:
Arborealus wrote:Red Shouldered Hawk...5yrs +5k minimum for chucking rocks...
What if you miss?

Pretty sure the law covers even harassing them...the Feds take protecting birds of prey very seriously...The enforcement guys I know do anyway...

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » August 17, 2006, 9:09 pm

not to be a party crasher but since i sorta am in doubt of you all beeing hawk experts, isn't this simply a - who's best at googling and pic comparison - contest ?

Al · Post by Al » August 18, 2006, 3:58 am

Actually, I am a hawk expert. That is, without a doubt, a hawk.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 18, 2006, 9:44 am

Tuddi2 wrote:not to be a party crasher but since i sorta am in doubt of you all beeing hawk experts, isn't this simply a - who's best at googling and pic comparison - contest ?

I doubt you're an expert on 95% of the shit you post about, but it doesn't stop you from running off at the mouth every chance you get.

If everyone had to post their qualifications before they posted here there'd be a lot fewer posts, zero posts from Midnyte, Metanis and Cartalas and this would be a rather boring (though informative) place.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » August 18, 2006, 11:00 am

Exactly!

That, and hawks(and most birds for that matter) are rather interesting.

Shaerra · Post by **Shaerra** » August 18, 2006, 11:52 am

noel wrote:
Tuddi2 wrote:not to be a party crasher but since i sorta am in doubt of you all beeing hawk experts, isn't this simply a - who's best at googling and pic comparison - contest ?
I doubt you're an expert on 95% of the shit you post about, but it doesn't stop you from running off at the mouth every chance you get.

If everyone had to post their qualifications before they posted here there'd be a lot fewer posts, zero posts from Midnyte, Metanis and Cartalas and this would be a rather boring (though informative) place.

hahaha I knida miss these posts. Good times.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 18, 2006, 12:19 pm

Shaerra wrote:hahaha I knida miss these posts. Good times.

I miss you. *hug*

Ogbar · Post by **Ogbar** » August 18, 2006, 2:18 pm

noel wrote:
Tuddi2 wrote:not to be a party crasher but since i sorta am in doubt of you all beeing hawk experts, isn't this simply a - who's best at googling and pic comparison - contest ?
I doubt you're an expert on 95% of the shit you post about, but it doesn't stop you from running off at the mouth every chance you get.

If everyone had to post their qualifications before they posted here there'd be a lot fewer posts, zero posts from Midnyte, Metanis and Cartalas and this would be a rather boring (though informative) place.

Maybe that should be a sticky thread here: Post Your Qualifications

... maybe not

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » August 18, 2006, 9:52 pm

brwwaaaaaaaaaaa

unclench you uptight pussy lipped way too confrontational gimp

never said anyone had to be an expert to post anything, be it related to what you say or otherwise

just said that i doubted anyone here was a hawk expert and i'm pretty fucking sure i'm right, giving that fact and the pics posted in reply to the thread i'm pretty sure i'm spot on as well about this beeing nothing but a thread - who's best at googling hawk pics and pointing out what they personally think is similar- contest.

and that's fine.

i was just saying

and i'm sure that's what pyrella wanted this thread to be tbh, i'm just the sorta guy that likes to point out the obvious as i did at the start of this post.
if pyrella really needed to identify the bird he wouldn't be posting this here.

ps. canelek, thumbs up for you personally finding hawks interesting

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 18, 2006, 11:50 pm

Tuddi2 wrote: just said that i doubted anyone here was a hawk expert and i'm pretty fucking sure i'm right, giving that fact and the pics posted in reply to the thread i'm pretty sure i'm spot on as well about this beeing nothing but a thread -

Al is an expert.

Al · Post by Al » August 19, 2006, 1:35 am

It appears to be a young Red-Tailed Hawk (Buteo Jamaicensis), or maybe a young Ferruginous Hawk (Buteo Regalis), both common in the south western US. Without a more detailed selection of pictures or an actual specimen, I can't tell you more than that.

edit: ...although Lynks' pic does look strikingly similar, even though that isn't a Harris Hawk (or a Bay-Winged hawk, as they are the same species, Parabuteo Unicinctus). The flattened head on that one reminds me of a different genus though.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 19, 2006, 2:47 pm

Tuddi2 wrote:brwwaaaaaaaaaaa

unclench you uptight pussy lipped way too confrontational gimp

never said anyone had to be an expert to post anything, be it related to what you say or otherwise

just said that i doubted anyone here was a hawk expert and i'm pretty fucking sure i'm right, giving that fact and the pics posted in reply to the thread i'm pretty sure i'm spot on as well about this beeing nothing but a thread - who's best at googling hawk pics and pointing out what they personally think is similar- contest.

and that's fine.

i was just saying

and i'm sure that's what pyrella wanted this thread to be tbh, i'm just the sorta guy that likes to point out the obvious as i did at the start of this post.
if pyrella really needed to identify the bird he wouldn't be posting this here.

ps. canelek, thumbs up for you personally finding hawks interesting

Are you going to cry now?

Thanks for the explanation I couldn't care less about.

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » August 20, 2006, 7:38 am

cry, what are you 5 ?

and that wasn't an explanation i thought you'd care about, you got plenty around to care about, ego, forumpeen, colorful spandex clothing etc.

you just like to stir shit up for what ever reason, if someone answers, you make a poor attempt at insult (cry comment) and then fake uninterest then hold back like there was no tomorrow, you've done it before and you'll continue doing it.

it's how you argue, leave people hanging and have them thinking you really dont care. hope your wife really really likes you for some other reasons.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 20, 2006, 10:08 am

Tuddi2 wrote:cry, what are you 5 ?

and that wasn't an explanation i thought you'd care about, you got plenty around to care about, ego, forumpeen, colorful spandex clothing etc.

you just like to stir shit up for what ever reason, if someone answers, you make a poor attempt at insult (cry comment) and then fake uninterest then hold back like there was no tomorrow, you've done it before and you'll continue doing it.

it's how you argue, leave people hanging and have them thinking you really dont care. hope your wife really really likes you for some other reasons.

Um, scroll up and you will see that you are the one that is appearing to like to "stir shit up" in this thread...and in others!

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 20, 2006, 9:26 pm

Tuddi2 wrote:cry, what are you 5 ?

and that wasn't an explanation i thought you'd care about, you got plenty around to care about, ego, forumpeen, colorful spandex clothing etc.

you just like to stir shit up for what ever reason, if someone answers, you make a poor attempt at insult (cry comment) and then fake uninterest then hold back like there was no tomorrow, you've done it before and you'll continue doing it.

it's how you argue, leave people hanging and have them thinking you really dont care. hope your wife really really likes you for some other reasons.

Al is an expert.

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » August 20, 2006, 9:57 pm

Boogahz wrote:
Tuddi2 wrote:cry, what are you 5 ?

and that wasn't an explanation i thought you'd care about, you got plenty around to care about, ego, forumpeen, colorful spandex clothing etc.

you just like to stir shit up for what ever reason, if someone answers, you make a poor attempt at insult (cry comment) and then fake uninterest then hold back like there was no tomorrow, you've done it before and you'll continue doing it.

it's how you argue, leave people hanging and have them thinking you really dont care. hope your wife really really likes you for some other reasons.
Um, scroll up and you will see that you are the one that is appearing to like to "stir shit up" in this thread...and in others!

i wont see that no, i meant my post to be ill dressed humor, by pointing out that all this thread was, was the equallent of people sitting in a circle seriously discussing some big question about chance, taking turns rolling dice and pointing at them while rubbing their chin.

noel as per usual took things literally and got all defensive, for some reason noel has some personal issues with me, small and insignificant as they may be but he really doesn't like me (or my posts should i say) and makes a point to argue, perhaps to see if he can feel more at home with "the fnord" by trying to alienate the anon outsider.

i wonder if noel was the kind of kid in school that bullied others or if he was bullied and is trying to get even with someone :/ , i hope neither since bullying is rather nasty business no matter which side of the line you're standing on.

ps. thx Grakk i read your first post and as usual you are the kind of person that wants everyone to get along, if only the world was full of people like you

pps unfortunatly it's got morons like me

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 20, 2006, 9:59 pm

Tuddi2 wrote: just said that i doubted anyone here was a hawk expert and i'm pretty fucking sure i'm right

Al is an expert.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 21, 2006, 1:13 am

Tuddi2 wrote:
Boogahz wrote:
Tuddi2 wrote:cry, what are you 5 ?

and that wasn't an explanation i thought you'd care about, you got plenty around to care about, ego, forumpeen, colorful spandex clothing etc.

you just like to stir shit up for what ever reason, if someone answers, you make a poor attempt at insult (cry comment) and then fake uninterest then hold back like there was no tomorrow, you've done it before and you'll continue doing it.

it's how you argue, leave people hanging and have them thinking you really dont care. hope your wife really really likes you for some other reasons.
Um, scroll up and you will see that you are the one that is appearing to like to "stir shit up" in this thread...and in others!
i wont see that no, i meant my post to be ill dressed humor, by pointing out that all this thread was, was the equallent of people sitting in a circle seriously discussing some big question about chance, taking turns rolling dice and pointing at them while rubbing their chin.

noel as per usual took things literally and got all defensive, for some reason noel has some personal issues with me, small and insignificant as they may be but he really doesn't like me (or my posts should i say) and makes a point to argue, perhaps to see if he can feel more at home with "the fnord" by trying to alienate the anon outsider.

i wonder if noel was the kind of kid in school that bullied others or if he was bullied and is trying to get even with someone :/ , i hope neither since bullying is rather nasty business no matter which side of the line you're standing on.

ps. thx Grakk i read your first post and as usual you are the kind of person that wants everyone to get along, if only the world was full of people like you

pps unfortunatly it's got morons like me

I wonder which gimp-poster you are that we ran off long ago (I *really* don't need a response to that).

Anyway... Stick to armchair politics. Armchair psychology isn't your strongpoint.

For the record, I never bullied anyone during my youth. I did have a person who tried to bully me once. Unfortunately for him he cornered me once and there was no way for me to walk away like I'd been taught so I beat the living shit out of him and slammed his head into a brick wall a few times. That was pretty much the end of that.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » August 21, 2006, 3:50 am

One thing is certain, Tuddi is not an expert at spelling or grammar. I am really disappointed in Noel for missing those obvious mistakes, beeing that he has been the equallent of a spelling Nazi in the past.

I have heard that Al is an expert though. Not sure where I got that from.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 21, 2006, 5:55 am

Tuddi2 wrote: ps. thx Grakk i read your first post and as usual you are the kind of person that wants everyone to get along, if only the world was full of people like you

pps unfortunatly it's got morons like me

Oh! You remember Grakk?

What were you called in EQ?

noel · Post by **noel** » August 21, 2006, 9:44 am

Tyek wrote:One thing is certain, Tuddi is not an expert at spelling or grammar. I am really disappointed in Noel for missing those obvious mistakes, beeing that he has been the equallent of a spelling Nazi in the past.

I have heard that Al is an expert though. Not sure where I got that from.

I think that in the past someone other than myself cracked on Tuddi for his spelling and grammar and he stated that English wasn't his first language. I personally cut people who are speaking English as a second language some slack.

cadalano · Post by **cadalano** » August 21, 2006, 12:37 pm

*shrug*

tuddi is right. its a mutated african pigeon and youre all just posers

citing my sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigeon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Roker

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » August 21, 2006, 12:47 pm

Al Roker just turned 52 fyi

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » August 21, 2006, 5:23 pm

whatever it is it's a pretty bird

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 21, 2006, 11:17 pm

Ennia wrote:whatever it is it's a pretty bird

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » August 21, 2006, 11:51 pm

I remeber some fatman named grakk telling me not to tell anyone who he was in veliose. Fuk that was a long time ago, man I'm old.

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » August 22, 2006, 10:30 pm

you didn't run me of noel

i just stopped trolling the boards for a while and forgot my old username's pw
so i just made a new one

i doubt you'd remember me and since you didn't want an answer i'll leave it be.

and point taken noel, i'll leave the wanna-be psychology attempts alone from now on.

still dont know why you make such an effort to "put me in my place" so to speak

anyhuu

Kwon, you can check your pm to find out who i am

you might remember me

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » August 22, 2006, 11:05 pm

were you a barbarian shaman by any chance?

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » August 22, 2006, 11:36 pm

nope not a barb shaman

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 23, 2006, 1:05 am

Woohooo

NOBODY messin' with Tuddi! Tuddi rocks!

I now know Tuddis real identity!

What a way to make a first comeback-impression though Tuddlez!

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