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The Official Name for the Nindendo Revolution.

Post by Animalor »

Following suit with Microsoft in naming their products badly(Vista anyone?), Nintendo introduces:

The Nintendo Wii (pronounced We)

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I guess they seriously don't want to sell this console.
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Rellix wrote:I guess they seriously don't want to sell this console.
Because we all know that people base their purchase of a game console based on the name.

Microsoft could have called thier console the Fagbox 360 and people like Winnow would line up to buy one... and spam message forums about how much he loves his Fagbox and that the Sony Gaystation 3 is for homos.
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Post by Animalor »

I don't wanna play with the Wiiwii =/
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Post by Drinsic Darkwood »

I don't know, that sounds extremely fucking retarded. I never intended to buy one, but if I was sitting on the fence this would probably knock me over to the "save my money" side. I have no idea why they don't just stick with "Revolution".
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miir wrote:
Rellix wrote:I guess they seriously don't want to sell this console.
Because we all know that people base their purchase of a game console based on the name.

Microsoft could have called thier console the Fagbox 360 and people like Winnow would line up to buy one... and spam message forums about how much he loves his Fagbox and that the Sony Gaystation 3 is for homos.
I wasn't basing my comment on the name alone. The fact that they have the goofiest controller ever, lack of HD support, and now the name - why would anyone barring nintendo enthusiasts seriously considering buying this console over the 360 or PS3? Parents trying to guard their kids from violence and vulgarities they see at school anyway?

The name just makes me want to slap someone. "We're going to play on my Wii."

Some words just shouldn't be spoken.
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Would you buy a Fagbox 360 or a Gaystation 3?
"We're going to play on my Wii."
Go play with your own Wii.
I play with my Wii by myself.
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miir wrote:Would you buy a Fagbox 360 or a Gaystation 3?
"We're going to play on my Wii."
Go play with your own Wii.
I play with my Wii by myself.
Point is, Microsoft and Sony would never be that dumb/crazy/retarded in choosing a name. Innovation is good, but not when you try to achieve it by being as wacky as possible.
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Post by Winnow »

Wiiiii!


Weeee(tm) was already taken by me.
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I don't know about meow, but I kinda like the name.
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Post by Animalor »

Rellix wrote:
miir wrote:Would you buy a Fagbox 360 or a Gaystation 3?
"We're going to play on my Wii."
Go play with your own Wii.
I play with my Wii by myself.
Point is, Microsoft and Sony would never be that dumb/crazy/retarded in choosing a name. Innovation is good, but not when you try to achieve it by being as wacky as possible.
I'l like to once again point out Windows Vista(tm) as a not-so-hot naming idea.
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I wouldn't consider Vista to be anywhere near the same ballpark as "Wii" in terms of stupidity.
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:vv_what:


Oh... oh lord... I... I WANTED one...

Oh GOD!

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Post by archeiron »

I don't like the name.

Having said this, I believe that Nintendo is setting themselves up for a huge win, irrespective of the name. Considering that a 360 is $500+ to get started, a "new" console on the market with a price tag <$200 is going to being extremely tempting as a (a) primary console for lower incoming households, (b) primary console for younger families, (c) secondary console for households with larger disposable income for electronics.

It wouldn't suprise me to know that Nintendo will (a) have massive sales at Christmas this year, and (b) actually make money on this generation from the start (unlike both MS and Sony).

I will probably buy this as my second system, but I doubt that I will ever like the name.
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Oh sweet mercy!!

One of my best friends works in a NEWFOUNDLAND Electronics Boutique...

I MUST WARN HIM!

Can you imagine??

"Is Wii out?"
"We's out."
"Can I has one of dem?"
"Can't, we's out"
"Well den why can't I has one?"
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Post by Syenye »

i'm so stoked to see this. i don't care about the name. omg nintendo i love you. i might be a fangirl.
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Without a doubt, you are a fangirl steve.
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I am a hardcore nintendo fangirl... and I have to say I am pretty disapointed in the name. But, I will still be waiting in line the day Wii is released :-P. And I suppose I will get used to it.
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archeiron wrote:I don't like the name.

Having said this, I believe that Nintendo is setting themselves up for a huge win, irrespective of the name. Considering that a 360 is $500+ to get started, a "new" console on the market with a price tag <$200 is going to being extremely tempting as a (a) primary console for lower incoming households, (b) primary console for younger families, (c) secondary console for households with larger disposable income for electronics.

It wouldn't suprise me to know that Nintendo will (a) have massive sales at Christmas this year, and (b) actually make money on this generation from the start (unlike both MS and Sony).

I will probably buy this as my second system, but I doubt that I will ever like the name.
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what a stupid fucking name. nintendo is so irrelevant now. they could make winnow hunter on this console and I still wouldn't fucking buy it.
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Nintendo is going to score huge with this console, and the name will work just fine. I wouldn't be surprised if, after two years or so, it's the 2nd place in total sales.

The price is one thing. The ability to easy and affordably download hundreds of games from all the previous consoles is huge. I think this will be the ultimate "family" console, and in America that counts for a lot.
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why would anyone barring nintendo enthusiasts seriously considering buying this console over the 360 or PS3? Parents trying to guard their kids from violence and vulgarities they see at school anyway?
And parents trying to save themselves a few hundred notes.
This machine will be cheap enough that you buy one AS WELL AS your Xbox360 or PS3 - not instead of. Which is what I'll be doing. The GameCube is the console that still gets most playing hours in my household and I expect the pissbox will be the same.

The name is still fucking stupid though.

Edit: Tchuh. I should've just written "What acheiron said".
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I will be among those laughing at the Nintendoomsayers. Parents are going to eat this with a spoon. It's also the perfect "second" system.

And if i hear one more moron go off about HDTV support... Well, maybe in 2 years someone will care. Enjoy your money pit til then.

Name still = lame though.
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Post by Animalor »

If I buy a Wiivolution, it'll be a year or two after launch when they've had time to build a decent library.

By then my daughter will be closing on 4 or 5, old enough to play kids video games.
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Or by then, you could buy a computer with equivalent power (about $50.00), and buy from an already existing library of kids games.

Plus, she can look at porn when she gets bored trying to fit the large circle into the large square.
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Go go Mario!
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Post by Syenye »

Bubba Grizz wrote:Go go Mario!
f mario, it's all about my boy link. with zelda being pushed back so far, i don't doubt that this will be a huge selling point for buying the wii.
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vn_Tanc wrote:Edit: Tchuh. I should've just written "What acheiron said".
QFT. ;)

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I want to see a picture of Syenye's Wii
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Wii will, wii will rock you!
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Post by Sartori »

I heard it wasn't even really gonna be "Nintendo Wii", just "Wii"....I think I like pronouncing it "Why?"
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an interview with Steve Manning, a big dog at Igor International, a company who named The Signature at MGM Grand and MTV’s URGE, it is revealed why he thinks Nintendo has released a fake name for their new system.

"Allowing your audience to vent is not SOP [standard operating procedures] in a name announcement, and also telegraphs that Nintendo knows what a stinker this name would be." He also says "It’s not possible to engineer a worse name for this product."

Another point, which could be the biggest giveaway of all with this whole story, is the fact that Wii has no registered trademarks. Not with Nintendo, not in the US, not in Japan. One of us could potentially trademark the name right now. If Wii was the real system name, wouldn't the trademark have been snatched up months ago, or at least at this point after announcing it? "This leads us to conclude that Nintendo has in fact registered the real name under a dummy corp, which is SOP when trying to keep a name secret prior to launch."

With "Wii", Nintendo is obviously creating a new buzz, and they hope it is enough to bring people into the name. People will hear the name, look it up, and find more about it. After all the buzz regarding the name simmers, E3 will be the chance for the real Revolution name to be announced.

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Good point, just look at how much we are talking about the name.
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I seriously doubt that Nintendo is going to give XBox 360 much competition. XBox will have nearly a year of lead time on its sales before PS3 or Wii (WTF) ever show up. This is a really important point in console sales. Nintendo is really not marketable to anyone over the age of 13 either in my opinion. They have been slowly spiraling down for years and if anyone thinks they are going to compete against the release of PS3 needs to put the crack pipe away.

Another thing to point out is that while the XBox is really pricy right now, it is very likely they will drop there price when those other systems hit the market. It is a standard practice and if I remember right, PS2 did the exact same thing.
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Nintendo is really not marketable to anyone over the age of 13 either in my opinion. They have been slowly spiraling down for years and if anyone thinks they are going to compete against the release of PS3 needs to put the crack pipe away
This statement is not only ignorant and misinformed. It's 100% wrong.

You may be surpried to find out that the smallest market share of the big 3 (MS, Sony and Nintendo) belongs to MS.

Handhelds are not as high profile as home consoles but they move more units and Nintendo owns a 90% share of that market segment. The Gamecube and XBox have similar numbers but Gameboy Advance sales rival PS2 sales.

Nintendo makes as much profit as Sony and MS games divisions combined.
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miir wrote:
Nintendo is really not marketable to anyone over the age of 13 either in my opinion. They have been slowly spiraling down for years and if anyone thinks they are going to compete against the release of PS3 needs to put the crack pipe away
This statement is not only ignorant and misinformed. It's 100% wrong.

You may be surpried to find out that the smallest market share of the big 3 (MS, Sony and Nintendo) belongs to MS.

Handhelds are not as high profile as home consoles but they move more units and Nintendo owns a 90% share of that market segment. The Gamecube and XBox have similar numbers but Gameboy Advance sales rival PS2 sales.

Nintendo makes as much profit as Sony and MS games divisions combined.
I took his comment to be directed at consoles rather than handhelds. I do agree that the comment regarding the Nintendo's marketability was incorrect.
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Sionistic wrote:Good point, just look at how much we are talking about the name.
To an extent, that's good publicity but I really do tink they'll lose sales overall simply due to the name.

Kids want things with names like TurboFantastic 3000, not Wii...not sure what Nintendo was thinking when they are going after the kiddie market where cool names matter the most for kids. Bad decision IMO. Parents are going to think they just need to go to the bathroom or something.
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Here's a little graph that indicates how poorly Nintendo is doing.
For 2005.

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miir wrote:Here's a little graph that indicates how poorly Nintendo is doing.
For 2005.

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No, it's not upside down.
Does the Nintendo information include their entire game division, or just consoles? Consoles are what were being discussed.
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Games, consoles etc.

The only reason MS is not 1 billion in the hole is beacuse of the $300+ million in sales from Halo 2.
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Boogahz wrote:
miir wrote:Here's a little graph that indicates how poorly Nintendo is doing.
For 2005.

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No, it's not upside down.
Does the Nintendo information include their entire game division, or just consoles? Consoles are what were being discussed.
Don't forget the range of products that they have available to them either.

Although the Gamecube isn't doing the business of the PS2, the Gameboys and DS are making a killing.
With strong franchises like Pokemon, Metroid, Mario and Zelda, they have guaranteed Winners every quarter.
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miir wrote:Games, consoles etc.

The only reason MS is not 1 billion in the hole is beacuse of the $300+ million in sales from Halo 2.
Let me rephrase that...do the Nintendo numbers reflect handheld games/units? The reason I ask is that your other post went on about how much they were making off of those. The original argument had nothing to do with handhelds. Posting their numbers including handhelds makes that graph misleading with the argument about how the "Wii" would stand up to the Xbox 360 and PS3. A better comparison would be Xbox vs Gamecube vs PS2 I guess. Then the impact of the Xbox 360 being out around a year before other consoles of this gen are released could be factored in as well.
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If this is the name, it's stupid.

I think the approach to this console is very smart by Nintendo. They can't keep up w/ to R&D of the other companies. So, coming up with a new system that plays games differently, albeit on inferior hardware, can differentiate themselves. Being a cheap alternative tot he big two has been helping them along for the past few years. I believe it will be huge in Japan, they love all of that quirky shit.

Biggest problem I see is the Nintendo sells because of their franchises. Those franchises have been really been less and less relevant as time goes on. Wow, Zelda, terrific, Mario, great, Samus, nice rack, blah blah. The software selection and quality outside of these choices has been pure shit. I am sure it will do fine, but I can't possibly seeing me owning this thing as it's been so easy to ignore nin w/out feeling as if I am missing a thing.
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Boogahz wrote:
miir wrote:Games, consoles etc.

The only reason MS is not 1 billion in the hole is beacuse of the $300+ million in sales from Halo 2.
Let me rephrase that...do the Nintendo numbers reflect handheld games/units? The reason I ask is that your other post went on about how much they were making off of those. The original argument had nothing to do with handhelds. Posting their numbers including handhelds makes that graph misleading with the argument about how the "Wii" would stand up to the Xbox 360 and PS3. A better comparison would be Xbox vs Gamecube vs PS2 I guess. Then the impact of the Xbox 360 being out around a year before other consoles of this gen are released could be factored in as well.
If you only figured in Gamecube, PS2s and XBox/360, you'd have to factor in that MS loses money for every XBox (maybe not anymore but for the first few years they did) and XBox 360 that they sell, and Sony sells PS2s (and PSPs) below cost... you'd see an even bigger gap in profits between the 3 companies.

While Nintendo may not be a player in the console technology war, they are by far the most profitable of the 3 companies. At the end of the day, what's more important?

They have a stong market for their products and they are catering to it. Sony and MS are going more upscale and trying to reel in the more mature gamers with their consoles. While Nintendo may not have been relevant to us old farts (or to anyone over the age of 25) they are performing well in their target demographic. My 2 teenage neices have an ancient Nintendo64 and they just love it, and I have to admit some of the games are bloody good fun... despite the fact that the graphics are crappy and the technology is dated.
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miir wrote: While Nintendo may not be a player in the console technology war, they are by far the most profitable of the 3 companies. At the end of the day, what's more important?
Being a player is more important. Microsoft could give a shit about short term profitability. They're in it for the long haul and to get their foot in your living room door.

You're being short sighted miir and missing the big picture.
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Short term?
Nintendo has been around for over 25 years, and been very successful and profitable in those years.

Short sighted?
Nintendo has had a stranglehold on the portable gaming market for close to 2 decades. The closest anyone has come to making any impact in that segment is Sony with the PSP which grabbed around 10%.

Success like Nintendo's is hardly what you would call "slowly spiraling down for years".


Winnow, I know you're only interested in the latest/greatest technologies and anything that isn't bleeding edge is not even on your radar, so to speak. So just because you're not interested in something, it doesn't mean that it's not successful or popular. Nintendo knows thier niche.
They aren't focusing on the mature, fickle, techno-savy gamers. They market to the kids... the consumers of tomorrow. They seem to have a pretty solid vision of the big picture and are definately in it for the long haul.
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Post by Winnow »

Microsoft doesn't care about games.

*In my best Bill Gates impersonation talking to Steve Jobs in the 80's*

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Another example of a company promoting something they really care nothing about:

When I was working at Motorola, I sat in on the initial brainstorming sessions between Motorola and SRP (local power company). The idea that Motorola presented to SRp was to create Wireless Meter reading boxes as well as "Pay as you go" Credit card type devices for people to prepay for their power and load magnetic strip cards with a dollar amount that the consumer could go home and reload their power...the argument was that most people pay for resources before using them (gas in your car's tank for example) so why not have users prepay for their home's electricity...there are all sorts of benefits to the power company if everyone did that.

The catch though was that Motorola just wanted to be able to attach devices inside homes to the powerlines with the intent of later using the new links to the powerlines within homes for broadband internet services, selling modems etc. SRP had no clue what Motorola was really after.

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Microsoft isn't looking to compete with Nintendo's kiddies that say "Wii!". They want the adult market and to open up a broadband connection into your living room where they can sell you media of all types and they'll make money that way instead of with hardware...just like they always have.
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miir wrote:They market to the kids... the consumers of tomorrow. They seem to have a pretty solid vision of the big picture and are definately in it for the long haul.
Nintendo has always marketed to kids. Has anyone here not owned a Nintendo in some form before? I've had a NES, SNES and Gameboy.

Their problem and great strength is that although I don't care for their products anymore, they're banking that one day I'll have kids and that at that point, brand recognition will kick in.

What would you rather have your 6-14 yo playing?
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