Is the new BStar Galactica any good?

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » January 14, 2006, 7:35 pm

I'm going on a rampage of DVD buying for some TV series. I came across BG season one on sale but I really don't know anything about it. Anyone here seen it? Is it worth watching or is it crap science fiction?

If you answer then please also tell me if you enjoyed Babylon 5 or not. Because if you liked that show I will not listen to your crappy advice because you have no fucking taste.

Breagen · Post by **Breagen** » January 14, 2006, 7:56 pm

I never watched Babylon Five, but I really like BSG and would not say that it is crappy SciFi.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 14, 2006, 8:06 pm

It's drama driven with lots of head games. A few too many of those quick zoom-in camera shots for dramatic effect in the early episodes but not enough to detract from the show. I'm still undecided on Starbuck being changed from a man to a woman in the new series.

You don't see much of the cylons in the early episodes and when you do, they're disquised as humans (must have saved a ton on the budget)

It's a good series that sparks a little creative thinking instead of presenting brainless fodder.

Edit: it was Starbuck, not Apollo that got the sex change

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 14, 2006, 8:15 pm

My wife and I both think it is excellent and never miss TIVO on it. If that discourages you from watching it.. GOOD, you do not deserve decent TV.

But we know you are a pirate so just snag it from bitmetv or tvtorrents.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » January 14, 2006, 9:31 pm

I am a huge scifi fan...and this is not only one of the best of that genre...but it is one of the most well done dramatic series on television.

The characters have depth and emotion.

[Show]: When Adama is promoted to Admiral by President Roslyn (who is dying of cancer and has only a few days to live it appears), the tenderness between the kiss...and the emotion on Adama's face as he see Roslyn in her weakened state...well...it was enough to bring a tear to my eye. You do not get that with just any poorly written/acted show. BSG is one great show.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » January 14, 2006, 9:40 pm

Kylere wrote:My wife and I both think it is excellent and never miss TIVO on it. If that discourages you from watching it.. GOOD, you do not deserve decent TV.

But we know you are a pirate so just snag it from bitmetv or tvtorrents.

Why would I ask if I was just going to download it for free you stupid retard?

And how exactly would downloading it be any different than recording it off of the sci fi channel?

And do you have to faggot up every thread with your dumb?

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » January 14, 2006, 10:00 pm

And do you have to faggot up every thread with your dumb?

Can i keep this?

Sartori · Post by **Sartori** » January 14, 2006, 11:39 pm

I have only seen the 2 hour pilot, and really enjoyed it. I'll be picking up the season 1 DVD soon just based on that, and I haven't seen a single episode of the show - just what I've heard by word of mouth and articles (lots of praise).

Trek · Post by **Trek** » January 14, 2006, 11:52 pm

I only watched it here and there. I didnt care for it. As a fan of the original series this was a let down for me. Sure when you watch the old series now it doesnt stack up, but when I was growing up it was awesome. I guess that doesnt mean the new one sucks, just means im jaded somehow and will stop this post now

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » January 15, 2006, 9:02 am

Kylere wrote:My wife and I both think it is excellent and never miss TIVO on it. If that discourages you from watching it.. GOOD, you do not deserve decent TV.

But we know you are a pirate so just snag it from bitmetv or tvtorrents.

Pirate... free to air TV? (it's been shown on plenty of free to air networks by now)

Aaaaanyway, B5 was hillbilly sci-fi, BSG is very good... mainly because Edward James Olmos is brilliant in it.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 15, 2006, 11:01 am

Actually they are getting bitchy about free to air being pirated because the content producers are saying that DVD sales are half what they would be without online piracy of shows.

The only industry that seems cool is the comic industry towards 12 month or older comics.

As for why if you are just going to download it, that is clear because unless you are sitting on a badass connection ( read better than cable/dsl) downloading the easily 14Gig any decent episodes would take to catch up with would hurt your ratio, and take a bloody long time.

Kwonryu DragonFist · January 15, 2006, 12:14 pm

Kyou, i loved both seasons!

The first episodes were the best.

It's better than those StarGate, Babylon 5-series (imho) for sure!

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » January 16, 2006, 11:15 am

B5 is an excellent series that will make you think once you get past the cheesy costumes and a few bad actors. I don't think any Sci-Fi series has more depth concerning the nature of man than B5.

However the new BSG is freakin' awesome. I've watched every episode as does just about everyone I know. There are a ton of different themes running throught the series, it could eventually be even deeper than B5.

I think both would be well worth your money.

Marb

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » January 16, 2006, 11:56 am

Love Battlestar Galactica, old and new. At first I thought the changes by making Starbuck and Boomer female would annoy me but it hasn't. I really like what they did with this interpretation of the show.

and for the record I liked Bab V as well but never watched it primetime. I waited until they showed the entire series on TBS every night.

miir · Post by **miir** » January 16, 2006, 1:07 pm

kyoukan wrote:I'm going on a rampage of DVD buying for some TV series. I came across BG season one on sale but I really don't know anything about it. Anyone here seen it? Is it worth watching or is it crap science fiction?

If you answer then please also tell me if you enjoyed Babylon 5 or not. Because if you liked that show I will not listen to your crappy advice because you have no fucking taste.

Babylon 5 sucked.
Battlestar Galactica doesn't suck.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » January 16, 2006, 1:35 pm

BSG is great. Apollo is a bit whiney and Gaius overacts worse than Avery Brooks in ST:DS9 but if you can handle that you're home and dry.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » January 16, 2006, 5:43 pm

Don't really care for it myself, seems to be more of a space based soap opera than a sci-fi show to me. Never liked the original or B5 either so...

The first few years of SG1, Firefly, and DS9 were all good IMO. Red Dwarf too, though it's not really in the same catagory

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » January 16, 2006, 6:04 pm

B5 actually took me some time to get into it. At first I thought it was worthless but eventually came to love it once I began to grasp all the different theams.

As I've watched BSG from the beginning I've been impressed...

Marb

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » January 16, 2006, 8:31 pm

Kylere wrote:Actually they are getting bitchy about free to air being pirated because the content producers are saying that DVD sales are half what they would be without online piracy of shows.

The only industry that seems cool is the comic industry towards 12 month or older comics.

As for why if you are just going to download it, that is clear because unless you are sitting on a badass connection ( read better than cable/dsl) downloading the easily 14Gig any decent episodes would take to catch up with would hurt your ratio, and take a bloody long time.

Sure, and the BSA says that they lose 4 times the sales that actually make of software in Europe.

Time shifting has been legal or ignored in every juristiction since the VCR became popular for more than watching porn. Once it was on the tape, you never lent that tape to a friend I hope.... or worse still borrowed one from them.... you wouldn't be a ... dirty fucking hypocrite, would you? Say it's not so!!

I'm sure somewhere there's a rule that you can't be "centrist" and also hold grudges about nothing and libel people for no reason, well.. there should be.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » January 16, 2006, 11:00 pm

vn_Tanc wrote:BSG is great. Apollo is a bit whiney and Gaius overacts worse than Avery Brooks in ST:DS9 but if you can handle that you're home and dry.

I LOVED Avery Brooks in DS9. He was the best captain in any ST series.

Does this show have lots of space battles?

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » January 16, 2006, 11:26 pm

It has a small amount of space battles. The story is much more character/plot driven...a dramatic series. But the space scenes are outstanding. There is something very intriguing about how they shoot those scenes. The special effects are seamless and the camera work...the perspectives....very sweet.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » January 16, 2006, 11:48 pm

LOL Like I am holding the grudge, Kyoukan has hated me since my bloody guild blew past her little troupe in hell one day.

Now that is silly.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » January 17, 2006, 12:00 am

Kylere wrote:LOL Like I am holding the grudge, Kyoukan has hated me since my bloody guild blew past her little troupe in hell one day.

Now that is silly.

I don't recall her claiming be a moderate though

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » January 17, 2006, 12:17 am

The space battles aren't like Star Wars where all the fighters swoop down like WWII props, they also aren't like Star Trek where you have one big ship attacking another...

They have a mixture of both but the flying of the fighters corresponds with how a small, "fighter" type spacecraft would actually have to fly using thruster rockets to turn, break etc... remember that in space, you don't slow down unless you hit something or apply some type of resistence. It makes for some awesome battles and manuvers.

Marb

Sartori · Post by **Sartori** » January 17, 2006, 2:02 am

Kylere wrote:LOL Like I am holding the grudge, Kyoukan has hated me since my bloody guild blew past her little troupe in hell one day.

Now that is silly.

Well hey at least your being honest about being a fucking dick. Lots of other people denied any wrong doing. Dick.

Take it easy!

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » January 17, 2006, 2:57 am

Marbus wrote:The space battles aren't like Star Wars where all the fighters swoop down like WWII props, they also aren't like Star Trek where you have one big ship attacking another...

They have a mixture of both but the flying of the fighters corresponds with how a small, "fighter" type spacecraft would actually have to fly using thruster rockets to turn, break etc... remember that in space, you don't slow down unless you hit something or apply some type of resistence. It makes for some awesome battles and manuvers.

Marb

Marb put it better than I did. 100% agree!

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » January 17, 2006, 7:44 am

I LOVED Avery Brooks in DS9. He was the best captain in any ST series.

Does this show have lots of space battles?

I dug Avery but he did have a tendency to thesp it up from time to time

BSG doesn't have a huge amount of space battles but they're pretty cool when they do. There are no lasers, the ships use balistic projectiles, nukes and missiles so they have a unique look for the genre.

In short, the series is well worth the time it takes to watch so get it down ya!

Kwonryu DragonFist · January 17, 2006, 12:28 pm

kyoukan wrote:
vn_Tanc wrote:BSG is great. Apollo is a bit whiney and Gaius overacts worse than Avery Brooks in ST:DS9 but if you can handle that you're home and dry.
I LOVED Avery Brooks in DS9. He was the best captain in any ST series.

Does this show have lots of space battles?

The Space battles aren't many but they are well made!

Not like Star Trek with Huge battleships or Star Wars with an armada of fighters but a bit more like Top Gun with a limited amount of skilled pilots in one man fighterships engaging/defending against the Cylon counterpart.

Human side are mostly outnumbered but have very skilled pilots!

And human side know when they are too outnumbered and when to retreat.

More realistic and less superhuman space battles like you have seen in other scifi movies/series.

You can really feel the stress from the human side, always being outnumbered and losing ONE fighter in battle really counts as opposing to the huge fleets of Star Wars/Babylon 5.

Cylons use nasty attacks when they attack, but it's not about the space battles so much in this series as one would imagine at first!

I found Gaius (and his min) the most "fun" character of them all!

Overacting for teh win!

It's a must see scifi-serie to see imho.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » January 17, 2006, 2:18 pm

Battlestar is the best sci-fi show out there. No, I didn't like Babylon 5, and this show moves at a much less glacial pace.

[Show]: Gaius was a high-strung guy before he found out his girlfriend was a Cylon who had been used him to get the info they needed to destroy the colonies. Now he's one crazy nigga.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » January 17, 2006, 2:24 pm

Imho, the 1st Season was better than the 2nd.

Especially due to the feeling of hopelessness in the beginning.

My fav episode was when they were chased and had to regroup constantly

Lisandre · Post by **Lisandre** » January 17, 2006, 4:46 pm

I loved Babylon 5, and I'm really enjoying BattleStar Galactica too.

I'm liking the second season more than the first, so far. Battlestar Galactica is definitely darker, and has less of a fantasy feel to it than Babylon 5, but the storylines for both are engaging.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » January 17, 2006, 5:28 pm

Last season...when Gaius found out Boomer was a Cylon...the scene where he talks with her...and "leads" her down the path to try and take her own life.

The scenes this season with Number 6...the one that was tortured on the Pegasus.

And the scene last season with them under attack on the planet...and that one guy was forcing them into a no win battle...and he was going to shoot one of his own men (women)...and Gaius takes him out.

And just watching him slowly lose his mind...

These are all reasons I like watching Gaius. Sometimes he can be a bit annoying.

My vote for the most annoying character on the show...the one you want offed by a Cylon....is Col. Saul Tigh's wife....

The characters are very compelling. They said from the start that this would be a first rate dramatic series set in space. They said the special effects would take a backseat to the plot. In my opinion they have a great balance of both.

As much as I like the original ST...we sure have come a long way in terms of plot and acting ability.

Aaaah....AAAAhhhhh...Ahhhh....ahhhhh....Bitter dregs (bonus points if you get that reference!)

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » January 17, 2006, 5:45 pm

I'm liking the second season but the excessive bloody scratch marks on almost every face continue. (three on each face).

The other distracting thing is that by now, everyone gets it that Adama's second in command is an alcoholic. We don't need to see him pulling the bottle out from his sock and taking a swig after every one of his scenes.

Minor gripes about a good show!

Wonko Wenusberg · Post by **Wonko Wenusberg** » January 17, 2006, 6:38 pm

Tigh's binge drinking is a perfect indicator to when the shit has hit the fan! and let it be so

Fameen · Post by **Fameen** » January 18, 2006, 12:19 am

While I'm a huge science fiction fan I find that the majority of it just sucks.

B5 in my opinion is just more of the bad.
BSG on the other hand is one for my favorite shows on TV.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » January 18, 2006, 9:52 am

Fameen wrote:While I'm a huge science fiction fan I find that the majority of it just sucks.

B5 in my opinion is just more of the bad.
BSG on the other hand is one for my favorite shows on TV.

And there we have it from a HUGE sci-fi fan!

It's a Must-see Kyo!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » January 18, 2006, 9:58 pm

Moonwynd wrote:Last season...when Gaius found out Boomer was a Cylon...the scene where he talks with her...and "leads" her down the path to try and take her own life

hey retard, did you miss the part of the thread where I implied that I havent seen the series yet?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » January 18, 2006, 10:46 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Moonwynd wrote:Last season...when Gaius found out Boomer was a Cylon...the scene where he talks with her...and "leads" her down the path to try and take her own life
hey retard, did you miss the part of the thread where I implied that I havent seen the series yet?

I think... that's exposed (or implied) in the mini-series. Which you should probably watch before the series proper. Though I didn't, caught up with it later, and didn't really bother me.

I think Moon's been posting drunk again though.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » July 16, 2006, 8:45 pm

Hehe, finally got around to seeing this, after a friend bugged me into a movie night with the pilot and the first 7 episodes

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Decent enough acting, and LOVE Gaius, hes doing one hell of a good acting job

.
But the space battles are the thing that really make this stand out, how they fly with thrusters and are able to make those nice manouvers, havent seen any sci-fi movie or series try to do the same.

And yes, i downloaded them, and am ATM awaiting my DVD version of the pilot and of season 1

. Well worth the money.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 16, 2006, 11:48 pm

You might hate me and all kyoukan, and my opinion probably doesn't mean much to you, but BSG is well worth buying, it's a great series.

I downloaded them via bit torrent to watch, and bought them afterward as a set.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » July 17, 2006, 1:05 am

MY wife and I watch the show religeously on Sci-Fi. We got the DVDs as a wedding gift and I would recommend them just for the widescreen format alone. I think this show is the best Sci Fi series to come out in decades, mostly because of solid acting and the gritty naval feel to it.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » July 18, 2006, 11:32 am

I just picked it up yesterday Kyo, and having only watched the first two hours of the miniseries, my opinion doesn't hold much weight. However, I cannot wait to leave work and return home so I can continue watching the rest of the miniseries. It's got me hooked after a few hours. I don't know if the characters will grow on me as Firefly did, but so far I'm enjoying it.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 18, 2006, 2:01 pm

Why are you people replying to something kyoukan asked over six months ago and then questioning the value of your opinions?

State your views with some confidence!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 18, 2006, 2:48 pm

Yeah I bought these dvd's like six months ago.

It's a pretty good show, but it needs more fighting and less of the first officer's wife.

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » July 18, 2006, 3:19 pm

Didn't realize the post was started six months ago, thought it was a recent thread.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 18, 2006, 4:17 pm

Captain Picard would have noticed that!

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » July 20, 2006, 2:50 am

Captain Picard would have phaser shot you in the head for even questioning him. Consider yourself lucky he's only my uncle.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 20, 2006, 2:55 am

kyoukan wrote:Yeah I bought these dvd's like six months ago.

It's a pretty good show, but it needs more fighting and less of the first officer's wife.

Less drunk, conniving, slut, and more drunk, violent, slut! Starbuck 4 eva!

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 20, 2006, 8:24 am

Winnow wrote:Why are you people replying to something kyoukan asked over six months ago and then questioning the value of your opinions?

State your views with some confidence!

Well, I blame Hesten, he's an instigator after all

I didn't even look at the post dates before Hesten's. I was just replying to what I thought was a new thread also.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » July 21, 2006, 12:05 am

Aruman wrote:
Winnow wrote:Why are you people replying to something kyoukan asked over six months ago and then questioning the value of your opinions?

State your views with some confidence!
Well, I blame Hesten, he's an instigator after all

I didn't even look at the post dates before Hesten's. I was just replying to what I thought was a new thread also.

Hehe, i do take full responsibility on this one

. but at least its better than bumping a year old thread just to bump it and not do anything with it like some other people in here do

VeeshanVault

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