You can't say "bomb" on an airplane

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 7, 2005, 5:59 pm

You cannot say "bomb" on an airport walkway either.

http://www.local10.com/news/5485719/detail.html

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 7, 2005, 6:19 pm

Homeland Security spokesman Brian Doyle said it is the first instance that an air marshal has shot a passenger.

I hope it's not the last!

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » December 7, 2005, 6:23 pm

You threaten people on a plane with an imaginary bomb, run from US Marshalls, and then reach into a piece of luggage?

You deserve to die for being ignorant beyond all belief.

Rad Berky of Local 10 News wrote:According to Local 10's Rad Berky, the passenger got into an argument with another person or persons on board and threatened them with a bomb.

As passengers were disembarking at gate D-42, a federal air marshal confronted him, but he ran off the plane, according to federal authorities.

The air marshal pursued the passenger and shot him when the man apparently reached into his carry-on luggage, authorities said.

The man was a 44-year-old U.S. citizen, the Department of Homeland Security has confirmed.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 7, 2005, 6:45 pm

I wish they would say what was actually in the bag.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » December 7, 2005, 7:05 pm

Animalor wrote:I wish they would say what was actually in the bag.

porn and hashish

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » December 7, 2005, 7:08 pm

A water gun and a replica of Michael Douglas.

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 7, 2005, 7:33 pm

Makes no difference....

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 7, 2005, 7:55 pm

man, i'm lucky to be alive.

on a flight back from Peru, i came out of the lavatory recently and said "i just carpet bombed Texas"

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 7, 2005, 8:01 pm

Yeah whenever I'm on a flight and you get the obligatory who/what/when/where questions from your neighboring passengers and the "what do you do" question comes up I just say I'm a cook in the military.
Saying..."build bombs" no matter what way you put it in a sentence is just asking for trouble.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » December 7, 2005, 8:18 pm

Oooh you build bombs for a living?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 7, 2005, 8:37 pm

Moonwynd wrote:
Animalor wrote:I wish they would say what was actually in the bag.
porn and hashish

Maybe he was just liked the idea of a chick with a horse. No need to shoot the guy.

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 7, 2005, 8:45 pm

Aslanna wrote: Maybe he was just liked the idea of a chick with a horse. No need to shoot the guy.

There is no better reason in the world to shoot that guy.

Yes I build bombs for the military (missiles too). More experience with missiles than bombs but bombs are pretty easy.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 8, 2005, 12:01 am

http://smh.com.au/news/world/shot-passe ... 84487.html

Apparently he was mentally ill... which I guess you'd have to be to take a bomb on a plane too.

According to a witness, the man frantically ran down the aisle of the Boeing 757, flailing his arms, while his wife tried to explain that he was mentally ill and had not taken his medication.

And apparently Jack Bauer was involved!

No bomb was found, said James Bauer, agent in charge of the Federal Air Marshals field office in Miami.

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 8, 2005, 12:26 am

Zaelath wrote:Apparently he was mentally ill... which I guess you'd have to be to take a bomb on a plane too.
According to a witness, the man frantically ran down the aisle of the Boeing 757, flailing his arms, while his wife tried to explain that he was mentally ill and had not taken his medication.

That does make it quite tragic.
Based on the information given I dont think anyone here could point at wrongdoing on the Marshall, given the possibility of a bomb he was probably as scared as the wife watching all of this.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » December 8, 2005, 12:52 am

Suprised there hasn't been a meet the parents reference yet.

That being said, I think the marshall was totally in line with what he did. If he hadn't shot the guy and it was a bomb, who knows how many people would have been injured/killed, not to mention then people would be pointing the finger at him saying he didn't do his job.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 8, 2005, 1:01 am

Hello? The thread title would be your reference.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 8, 2005, 1:03 am

Yeah, I'm not going to second guess the Air Marshal based on what's been reported; I'm not sure that the actions described in the second story aren't more like someone "pitching a fit" than your classic terrorist... but it would have been a tough call.

Just to be clear: I don't think this is anything like the brazilian shot in England.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 8, 2005, 10:40 am

Tragedy for sure.. but understandable. And yeah not how your everyday terrorist would behave but I can understand how the Air Marshall behaved.

Btw, anybody know how many flights (percentage) actually have Air Marshalls on them? Heard a lot of different information on this heh.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » December 8, 2005, 11:16 am

No sympathy for that guy from me.

If you stupid enough to say you got a bomb, run from air marhalls, and keep your hand in your bag, youre asking for it.
Would be something different if some drunk 15 year old tried to say he got a bomb, but running and acting like you had one = too risky to take the chance.

And being mentally ill dont help him imo. Hell, even before all this terror started, if a mentally ill person would walk into a police station and shout "i got a gun", try to run towards potential hostages, and put a hand in his jacket, i would expect him to be blown away too.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 8, 2005, 12:39 pm

masteen wrote:You cannot say "bomb" on an airport walkway either.

http://www.local10.com/news/5485719/detail.html

Uh-huh....and?

You can't run red lights either.....you can't steal.....you can't murder...all of which are as earth shattering new news as what you just posted.

STFU and stop your complaining already. Holy shit. Bunch of whiney fucking crybabies on this board.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 8, 2005, 12:40 pm

somebody who is that mentally ill - if that is indeed the truth here - shouldnt be travelling in the 'general population' unmedicated anyway. if they are liable to run around and act like they are about to murder hundreds of people, then perhaps they should be sedated or travel Hannibal Lecter style.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 8, 2005, 12:42 pm

Voronwë wrote:somebody who is that mentally ill - if that is indeed the truth here - shouldnt be travelling in the 'general population' unmedicated anyway. if they are liable to run around and act like they are about to murder hundreds of people, then perhaps they should be sedated or travel Hannibal Lecter style.

They should ride on teh short plane.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 8, 2005, 12:42 pm

Leonaerd wrote:Oooh you build bombs for a living?

Yes, Send does. I've seen many pics of his work too. Although I never did get my pic of the kyocunt you painted on a bomb that was to be dropped in Iraq.

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 8, 2005, 1:46 pm

My bad on that one Mid, I had a cheap digi cam at the time due to the harsh condition and I didnt want to ruin my good one. I dropped it in the sand and that was the end of that camera. Fine desert sand does quite a number on buttons and stuff of a small cheep cam.

I have some more good videos email me at work if you want to see them. Just make sure you have plenty of space in your inbox some are quite large.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 8, 2005, 1:50 pm

I love Jon Stewarts quote from last night. "You can be drunk, you can be crazy, you just can't be both". It wasn't exactly like that, but you get the point.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » December 8, 2005, 1:54 pm

Most likely a combination of bi-polar, social anxiety issues and fear of flying. I feel sorry for the family and the marshall, this is a tragedy for sure.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 8, 2005, 4:10 pm

the guy also reportedly strapped his backpack on his chest, not his back.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 8, 2005, 4:15 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
masteen wrote:You cannot say "bomb" on an airport walkway either.

http://www.local10.com/news/5485719/detail.html
Uh-huh....and?

You can't run red lights either.....you can't steal.....you can't murder...all of which are as earth shattering new news as what you just posted.

STFU and stop your complaining already. Holy shit. Bunch of whiney fucking crybabies on this board.

I was complaining? I was making fun of this guy. Get with the program, Focker!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 8, 2005, 4:21 pm

Masteen, you and your godless liberal pissant secularists can't fuck up this country no matter how hard you try. Rot in fucking hell, and Merry Christmas. YOU WONT TAKE MY CANDY CANE UNLESS IT IS FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 8, 2005, 4:47 pm

Voronwë wrote:Masteen, you and your godless liberal pissant secularists can't fuck up this country no matter how hard you try. Rot in fucking hell, and Merry Christmas. YOU WONT TAKE MY CANDY CANE UNLESS IT IS FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

Damn you Voro!

BTW, I'm not a conservative anymore. I have renounced voting period and all political parties. I've torn up my Voters Registration card and all. So from now on I'm allowed to call out liberals and ultra conservatives at will!

miir · Post by **miir** » December 8, 2005, 5:02 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Voronwë wrote:Masteen, you and your godless liberal pissant secularists can't fuck up this country no matter how hard you try. Rot in fucking hell, and Merry Christmas. YOU WONT TAKE MY CANDY CANE UNLESS IT IS FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
Damn you Voro!

BTW, I'm not a conservative anymore. I have renounced voting period and all political parties. I've torn up my Voters Registration card and all. So from now on I'm allowed to call out liberals and ultra conservatives at will!

Well get to it!

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » December 8, 2005, 5:21 pm

Bomdiddy Bombdiddy bomb bomb.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » December 8, 2005, 5:23 pm

Even without being a card carrying member you are still a conservative. You can still call out the nancy liberals if you like though.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 8, 2005, 8:40 pm

Well, whoever he's calling out, it would be nice if someone actually whined about this guy getting shot before he calls them out on it.

What, we didn't have a complete knee-jerk reaction to something because we engage our brains before our value systems and you just thought there would be whining you should respond to?

Crawl back in your pity pit and play with your friend, Mr Winky.

Kelfain · Post by **Kelfain** » December 8, 2005, 8:44 pm

Animalor wrote:I wish they would say what was actually in the bag.

"Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor, but... every once in a while... it's a dildo. Of course, it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo. We have to use the indefinite article 'a' dildo, never... 'your' dildo."

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » December 8, 2005, 9:30 pm

Voronwë wrote:Masteen, you and your godless liberal pissant secularists can't fuck up this country no matter how hard you try. Rot in fucking hell, and Merry Christmas. YOU WONT TAKE MY CANDY CANE UNLESS IT IS FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

Dont you mean "Feliz Navidad"?

*Hugs*
Varia

Soreali · Post by **Soreali** » December 9, 2005, 12:28 am

I was in the army. I was a Bombadier..(sp?)

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 9, 2005, 12:33 am

What airframe?
(yeah I know its a derail)

Nick · Post by **Nick** » December 9, 2005, 2:54 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051209/ap_ ... NlYwM3MTg-

GG

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 9, 2005, 2:58 pm

Here we go...the liberals now will take years to analize a split decision. By 2008, the marshall will be the antichrist.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » December 9, 2005, 3:32 pm

Oh why not just do an O Reilly on it and call me a nazi so we can be done with it.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » December 9, 2005, 4:32 pm

So what I think is interesting, and I was thinking about this yesterday, the Air Marshal's shot him after he was already off the plane, and from reports, moving away from the plane. The officials have stated that the Marshal shot to protect the people on the plane, there (as far as I know) has never been any mention of other bystanders on the jetway where the shooting occurred. So it sounds to me like the threat was decreasing when the shots were fired.

When I read the article today it just makes me more leary because according to law enforcement officials the man was screaming about blowing up the plane, but apparently no one else heard it. Which means that either he wasn't screaming it, or he was far enough away no one else could hear him. If he was that far away I have to wonder how much threat there was to the passengers. I'm not saying the Air Marshal was wrong, but I think there are some questions, and an investigation would probably be a good idea.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · December 9, 2005, 5:29 pm

Nick wrote:Oh why not just do an O Reilly on it and call me a nazi so we can be done with it.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 9, 2005, 5:44 pm

Kargyle wrote:So what I think is interesting, and I was thinking about this yesterday, the Air Marshal's shot him after he was already off the plane, and from reports, moving away from the plane. The officials have stated that the Marshal shot to protect the people on the plane, there (as far as I know) has never been any mention of other bystanders on the jetway where the shooting occurred. So it sounds to me like the threat was decreasing when the shots were fired.

When I read the article today it just makes me more leary because according to law enforcement officials the man was screaming about blowing up the plane, but apparently no one else heard it. Which means that either he wasn't screaming it, or he was far enough away no one else could hear him. If he was that far away I have to wonder how much threat there was to the passengers. I'm not saying the Air Marshal was wrong, but I think there are some questions, and an investigation would probably be a good idea.

So it would have been cool if they'd let him get inside the airport with a bomb? Fuck that shit. Fool should have shelled out for some Xanax.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 9, 2005, 5:49 pm

Allow me to step in and explain this liberal guilt blaming phenomenon. You see, if that whacko had a bomb and was able to detonate it after running into the airport, the liberals would be saying, "OMG, the Air Marshal was right there. Why do we have Air Marshals if they're not going to actually do anything? XX amount of people died today because we have a system in place that doesn't help!"

Whatever happens during a crisis situation, you can be sure the liberals will complain about it no matter how it is handled.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » December 9, 2005, 5:51 pm

Well considering the bomb story is even true is at this point we can hardly just run around whining about xanax.

It's like that guy in the Tube in London.

America is so fucking stuck in this LIBERAL versus NEOCON buillshit cycle you are forgetting the concept of individual perspective and opinion.

Pretty sad.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » December 9, 2005, 6:03 pm

I never blamed the Air Marshal. All I said was that an investigation sounds like a good idea. Hell, I would be inclined to say that any time a person is shot there should be some type of investigation. Personally I feel bad for the Air Marshal. Whether he did the right thing or the wrong thing, he still has to live with the fact that he shot and killed another person, one whom turned out to be sick, but not a real threat. That's a hard thing to face every day, even if you have the conviction that you did the right thing.

Sendarie · Post by **Sendarie** » December 9, 2005, 6:27 pm

An investigation is a given. Any time there is an officer involved shooting standard procedure is to put the officer on admin leave until the investigation is completed. That applies for any type of law enforcement in the US from Barney Fife to the G-men.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 9, 2005, 7:39 pm

Nick wrote:America is so fucking stuck in this LIBERAL versus NEOCON buillshit cycle you are forgetting the concept of individual perspective and opinion.

Pretty sad.

I've agreed with you on a few things on this board, and I don't know that I have ever agreed with anything more than this. Every side has an "agenda" and every side is worried about stopping the other's agenda as well as furthering their own.

VeeshanVault

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