Question, the way I read this, I am going to vote for it. The people against it argue that politicians will be selecting the districts, and who wants politicians involved, yet they are deeply involved in the current process. Am I missing something here? Was just curious.Proposition 77
Reapportionment.
VoteCircle Summary
Prop 77 amends the California Constitution to change the redistricting process for state elected officials and California representatives to the United States Congress.
Main Provisions:
Requires a panel of retired federal and/or state judges to draw district boundaries.
The Selection Process
The California Judicial Council would collect the names of retired judges willing to serve on the panel. (Judges must not have held partisan political office, changed their party affiliation since their judicial appointment, or received income over the last years from specified political sources.)
Judicial Council would randomly select a pool of 24 judges from the list (the two largest political parties must have equal representation).
The four major legislative leaders (two each from the minority and majority parties) nominate a total of 12 judges from the pool. Each leader must nominate at least three judges with a party affiliation different than themselves. Each leader may also eliminate one name from the list.
For example, the Republican Leader in the California Senate must nominate at least three Democrat judges to the pool, and may choose to eliminate any single judge he/she chooses.
From the pool of nominated judges, three are selected at random to serve on the panel. Each of the two largest political parties must have at least one representative.
The final judges pledge, in writing, to not run for offices affected by the districts they draw or accept public jobs for the next five years.
The redistricting plan then must be approved by voters in a statewide election. If the voters reject the plan, a new panel will be appointed to prepare a new plan.
Drawing the Districts
The panel must hold public hearings, and receive input from the public and from the Legislature.
For the Legislature and the Board of Equalization, the population differences among the districts cannot exceed 1%.
Senate districts must be comprised of two complete Assembly districts.
Board of Equalization districts must be comprised of ten adjacent Senate districts.
The plan must minimize the splitting of counties and cities into multiple districts.
The panel cannot consider information related to party affiliations and other specified matters.
Detailed VoteCircle summary of Prop 77
Official sources
Prop 77 - California's Legislative Analysts' Office
Prop 77 - California Secretary of State's Office
Independent sources
People's Advocate Californians for Fair Representation
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THis is the same shit they did in Texas, coincidentally what DeLay is getting indicted for being involved in. They are putting the redistricting power into the hands of three retired judges who are selected by the state legislature or in the (highly likely) case of gridlock, the governor appoints them directly. Once the districts are drawn by these guys, the voting public actually has no say to veto it until after it has gone into effect (unlike the current constitutional law which requires voter approval on all redistricting) at a significant taxpayer cost to repeat the process with the same three judges. It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that its a lot easier to buy and pay for three judges than it is to do the same for an entire state legislature. As Joseph Stalin said, its not who votes that decides elections, its who counts the votes.
The real fishy thing here is that California just had a census and redisticting a few years ago, per its normal schedule of doing such things. The GOP has tried to push redistricting through four times in the last decade as well. There is no need to do it, but they pushed forward a special election to do it anyhow. Their intent, if this goes through, is to basically redistrict Cali so that it magically tranforms into a red state (or at the very least a swing state like Texas was previously) for the US House seats it would give them. Gerrymandering is bullshit, no matter how you slice it, but this really puts the power into the hands of very few people, which is never a good thing.
The manner in which this has been pushed by Arny and the powers behind him has turned a lot of people against this and most of his other measures. The only one that is likely to pass at all is the prescription drug one because while the pharmacutical companies stand to make billions off of california state funding, old people want their cheap pills no matter what.
The real fishy thing here is that California just had a census and redisticting a few years ago, per its normal schedule of doing such things. The GOP has tried to push redistricting through four times in the last decade as well. There is no need to do it, but they pushed forward a special election to do it anyhow. Their intent, if this goes through, is to basically redistrict Cali so that it magically tranforms into a red state (or at the very least a swing state like Texas was previously) for the US House seats it would give them. Gerrymandering is bullshit, no matter how you slice it, but this really puts the power into the hands of very few people, which is never a good thing.
The manner in which this has been pushed by Arny and the powers behind him has turned a lot of people against this and most of his other measures. The only one that is likely to pass at all is the prescription drug one because while the pharmacutical companies stand to make billions off of california state funding, old people want their cheap pills no matter what.
War is an option whose time has passed. Peace is the only option for the future. At present we occupy a treacherous no-man's-land between peace and war, a time of growing fear that our military might has expanded beyond our capacity to control it and our political differences widened beyond our ability to bridge them. . . .
Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
Dwight Eisenhower
Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
--RICHARD M. NIXON, "REAL PEACE" (1983)
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
Dwight Eisenhower
Since it sort of relates...been following DeLay here in the Dallas paper. (don't have links sorry)
After getting the judge thrown off the trial for having contributed to the democratic party in the past, they are now trying to get a relocation out of Travis County because DeLay fuckered three districts in Travis County to cook the election!
He's going to end up walking.
After getting the judge thrown off the trial for having contributed to the democratic party in the past, they are now trying to get a relocation out of Travis County because DeLay fuckered three districts in Travis County to cook the election!
He's going to end up walking.