New FBI squad

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 26, 2005, 8:37 pm

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050923-5346.html
Apparently, the FBI has cleared out all the murders, kidnappings, and rapes in their files. Truly, we must live in a great society if pictures of consenting adults posted on the Internet is one of our biggest problems.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 26, 2005, 9:46 pm

WOOO I am glad to see that the War on Terror has been won, because surely we would not waste money to pursue some sick fuckers pissing on each other otherwise.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » September 26, 2005, 10:12 pm

Whiffle-ball fucking IS TOO scarier than biological dirty bombs in major urban areas!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 26, 2005, 10:15 pm

Watersports isn't illegal among consenting adults is it? Hell, it should be encouraged as a safer thing to do than actual intercourse.

What are the laws in Europe and the U.S. on this topic? I'd be interesting to see a U.S./European/Asian breakdown of various sex fetishes.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 26, 2005, 10:18 pm

Winnow just wants to hear about sex!

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » September 27, 2005, 4:48 am

So how is this supposed to work?
If a couple in denmark decide to share some watersport pictures on the net, some FBI agent can deem this picture obscene and try to get the US to make a case?

Yeah right, the US interfere more than enough, if theyre now gonna play morality police for the world its WAY beyond idiocy.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » September 27, 2005, 6:56 am

I feel really sorry for anyone who thinks sex is a bad thing.

Guess what Big Brother, we are adults, we can look after ourselves, got it?

Fuckheads.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » September 27, 2005, 8:54 am

Winnow wrote:Watersports isn't illegal among consenting adults is it? Hell, it should be encouraged as a safer thing to do than actual intercourse.

What are the laws in Europe and the U.S. on this topic? I'd be interesting to see a U.S./European/Asian breakdown of various sex fetishes.

Not only safer, but it is encouraged if you are stung by a jellyfish!

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » September 27, 2005, 10:01 am

Concerned parents argue that our society has become increasingly tolerant of pornography and socially questionable material, and many of them blame the Internet for the degradation of traditional American values.

Those "Traditional American Values" have really taken a turn for the worse since 1994....

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 27, 2005, 11:32 am

You guys don't really get how Bush got elected, do you? Reactionary christian fundies who hate and fear everything are his fucking base.

Kilmoll the Sexy · September 27, 2005, 11:41 am

This last election his base was just people who thought John Kerry was worse than the known quantity.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 27, 2005, 12:04 pm

I'm begining to think Kimoll lives in an alternate universe... Bush won because souther fundie ministers handed out pamphlets in chuch week after week and preached surmons alluding to about how electing Bush was the Christian thing to do... what's funny is that the Minister of one of the fastest growing Churches in the country and one of the very few that doesn't preach hate and bigotry, who has a congrgation of over 60,000 now has been continually denounced by his brethern because he wouldn't take part in telling all his people who to vote for in the election...

Marb

Kilmoll the Sexy · September 27, 2005, 12:17 pm

You are about the most retarded posters that could ever hammer a keyboard with your foreheads. According to your morons, the fundies (Baptists which is what Bush is) cast 60+ million votes.....from a population of 33.8 million. The Baptist population is between 16-18% of the total US population. So to say that 16% of the population cast over 50% of the votes is not only ludicrous, but it makes you look like the imbeciles you really are.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 27, 2005, 12:55 pm

You are wrong on many assumptions... let me line some of them out:

1. Bush is NOT Baptist, he is Methodist (look it up if you don't believe me)
2. Baptist aren't the only Ultra Fundamentalist, they can be in any Chuch
3. 60+ million people didn't vote for Bush, only 59,834,866 or 51% compared to Kerry's 48% (that's a 3% difference)
4. In early 2004 the Republican Nation Comittee actually created a division to focus only on evangelical Christian churches because they knew this was Bush's primary constituant base. It worked he carried 75% of all White Christian Votes.

Google that shit if you don't believe me, and don't call me an imbeciles until you check your facts.

Marb

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » September 27, 2005, 1:12 pm

According to CNN, 62+ million voted for Bush as opposed to Kerry at 59 million

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/ ... president/

According to census info, there are a total of 130 million religious adults in the US counting every major denomination. According to your numbers, that would make 50% of every single church in the entire US "fundies" and every single one of them would have to vote and vote for Bush to accumulate 62 million votes.

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html

I guess I should throw out the accusation that African Americans are the only reason Clinton was elected.

Yeah...your imbecile status still stands.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 27, 2005, 1:36 pm

From "The American President":

He is interested in two things and two things only: Making you afraid of it and telling you who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections. You gather a group of middle-aged, middle-class, middle-income voters who remember with longing an easier time, and you talk to them about family and American values and personal character.

This is basically how Bush won.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 27, 2005, 3:55 pm

Kerry would have won the election if his platform was based around the legalization of watersports.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » September 27, 2005, 4:02 pm

Or if his platform was some ludicrous bullshit terror propaganda striking fear into the heart of pussy ass voters such as yourself.

gg.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » September 27, 2005, 4:19 pm

Really? A Bush/Kerry discussion? Again?

Just take comfort in knowing that Bush won't be up for re-election in 08 and whoever takes it, be it Democrat or Republican, has no chance of being as bad as Dubbya was.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 27, 2005, 4:32 pm

This shouldn't be a Bush / Kerry discussion it's about religion... and my alternate universe still stands for Kimoll. The religious right is the power that elected Bush, EVERYONE fuckin' knows that, even BUSH will say that.

However saying that doesn't mean that EVERYONE who voted for Bush is a religious fundamentalist, some are just plain stupid, scared or moderately wealthy and want more

Get a clue... it's like saying Soccer moms elected Clinton, do you really think EVERY individual that was a mom who had kids playing soccer voted for Clinton? NO, of course not. However when viewed as a group, they overwhelmingly did... SO people say "soccer moms elected Clinton." Same thing with Bush and the fundies, not ever evangelical Christian voted for Bush, this one didn't, but in general... they are the ones who got him elected.

Marb

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 27, 2005, 4:36 pm

The democrats need better campaign managers. I could probably get Jeb Bush elected with the weak crew the democrats are fielding right now.

On the political front...who here thinks Hillary financed this new female president television show that Gina Davis is starring in? She's trying to soften up the nation on the possibility of having a female in the White House.

She's sneaky like that!

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 27, 2005, 5:50 pm

Win, I agree with you 100%

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 27, 2005, 5:50 pm

I just pray, everyday, that McCain runs and that fuckstain Rove doesn't do another smear campaign against him.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 27, 2005, 6:27 pm

Blaming Bush for the fact that the United States has a bunch of fucked up religious nuts is like blaming Kerry for the US having a bunch of fucked up ultra liberal tree huggers.

They are a product of that environment, not the source of it. You can blame dumb as quakers/puritans etc for that.

Noysyrump · Post by **Noysyrump** » September 28, 2005, 1:06 pm

Help! I'm surrounded by liberals!

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 28, 2005, 3:48 pm

LOL, I seriously wonder what people got on their reading comprehension tests in school...

Did anyone on this thread blame Bush for the fundies?

Marb

Nick · Post by **Nick** » September 28, 2005, 6:54 pm

Or if his platform was some ludicrous bullshit terror propaganda striking fear into the heart of pussy ass voters such as yourself.

gg

hahahahahahahaha xyun wins the internet!

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » September 29, 2005, 12:02 pm

hhaahaha pussy lbieralswait what thred is this?

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 29, 2005, 2:55 pm

You should be concerned about this Stragi. If this continues, you'll never be able to find that special girl to pee on you.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 29, 2005, 4:07 pm

Dear FBI:

Until all murders,rapes and terrorism is under control please let all other crimes alone.

Thank you
The morans of Veeshan Vault.

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » September 29, 2005, 4:53 pm

Cartalas wrote:Dear FBI:

Until all murders,rapes and terrorism is under control please let all other crimes alone.

Thank you
The morans of Veeshan Vault.

Or folks might just be a wee bit upset to see either resources diverted from pressing issues to pander politically to a reactionary right win minority over victimless crimes, or bloat up an increasingly wasteful law enforcement in one of the most sadly incompetent displays of fiscal irresponsibily in years from a party that used to champion it.

That means I'm calling you stupid.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » September 29, 2005, 5:58 pm

When did watersports, BDSM, or any other type of sexual fetish become crimes? GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BEDROOM AND STAY THE FUCK OUTTA MY HARD DRIVE!

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » September 29, 2005, 6:46 pm

Apostate wrote:
Cartalas wrote:Dear FBI:

Until all murders,rapes and terrorism is under control please let all other crimes alone.

Thank you
The morans of Veeshan Vault.
Or folks might just be a wee bit upset to see either resources diverted from pressing issues to pander politically to a reactionary right win minority over victimless crimes, or bloat up an increasingly wasteful law enforcement in one of the most sadly incompetent displays of fiscal irresponsibily in years from a party that used to champion it.

That means I'm calling you stupid.

Ok, I think Cart has achieved critical mass of stupidity if he managed to get Apostate out of lurk mode to call him stupid.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 29, 2005, 7:30 pm

Marbus wrote:LOL, I seriously wonder what people got on their reading comprehension tests in school...

Did anyone on this thread blame Bush for the fundies?

Marb

Yes you leaking bag of piss, it was a comment in reference to the posts covering the number of religious votes, and people bringing Bush into the issue because it is not his fault such blue law type bullshit exists, it is the fault of all the people who think porn is cool but are too lazy to vote that the church groups pack the buses while people interesting in civil liberties are packing a pipe. But you were too dim to get all that so I filled you in directly.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » September 29, 2005, 7:36 pm

LOL! Ok... so the fact that fundies came out in droves to vote for Bush means nothing to him. It has no bearing on the type of Supreme Court Justices he nominates, no bearing on policy and he owes them nothing... riiiiigggghhhhtttt. When you wake up to the real world please let my colostomy bag know

Marb

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » September 29, 2005, 8:48 pm

Marbus wrote:LOL! Ok... so the fact that fundies came out in droves to vote for Bush means nothing to him. It has no bearing on the type of Supreme Court Justices he nominates, no bearing on policy and he owes them nothing... riiiiigggghhhhtttt. When you wake up to the real world please let my colostomy bag know

Marb

Nooo I am not saying that, I sazid the exact opposite of that, it is funny when you mention reading comprehension while demonstrating your total lack of it.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 29, 2005, 9:56 pm

Apostate wrote:
Cartalas wrote:Dear FBI:

Until all murders,rapes and terrorism is under control please let all other crimes alone.

Thank you
The morans of Veeshan Vault.
Or folks might just be a wee bit upset to see either resources diverted from pressing issues to pander politically to a reactionary right win minority over victimless crimes, or bloat up an increasingly wasteful law enforcement in one of the most sadly incompetent displays of fiscal irresponsibily in years from a party that used to champion it.

That means I'm calling you stupid.

I guess you did not read the first line of the article? "Many Americans see the Internet as a lawless frontier, a haven for criminals and sexual deviants that use anonymity to commit crimes without fear of retribution."

You really think they are being payed to find your wife swapping photos with Jice's grandmother? No you moron they are being paid to look into all criminal acts on the internet.

Neroon · Post by **Neroon** » September 29, 2005, 10:07 pm

I guess you didn't read anything *but* the first line of the article.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » September 29, 2005, 11:57 pm

yup, they went on to say:

Although law enforcement agencies have always been aggressive when it comes to prosecuting exploitative child pornographers, this new initiative is unique in that it targets Internet pornography featuring consenting adults.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » September 30, 2005, 1:02 am

Boogahz wrote:yup, they went on to say:

Although law enforcement agencies have always been aggressive when it comes to prosecuting exploitative child pornographers, this new initiative is unique in that it targets Internet pornography featuring consenting adults.

Instead of going after consenting adult porn, they should use whatever funding this new initiative creates and double their efforts fighting child pornography. I read somewhere that they have something like 50,000 + individual minors identified in child porn but have only tracked down 5% or less (probably less). Whatever the exact figures were, it wasn't good. Maybe someone will google it.

If the government is going to focus on net porn, they need to go after someone peeing on a kid, not another adult. That would be (nc, ped, ws) in netspeak. Here, let me help you out:

Code: Select all

Sex and Age:


"M,m,b" are all males.  
"b" is always a young boy, should be up to 12. 

"F,f,g" are all females.  
"g" is a young girl, should be up to 12.

"M,F" should be adults, 18 and older.
"m,f" should be teens, 13 - 17.
"t"   Teenage male (used in gay stories).

MF        is adult heterosexual sex
ff        is teen lesbian sex
MMM~f     means adult men gang-banging a teenaged girl
MMM/f     sometimes means adult men gang-banging a teenaged girl
          etc.
M+F       Means several men and one woman
MF+       Means one man and several women

Fembot    A female robot, designed to give sexual pleasure.
fembot    A version of the same, designed to look like a teenaged girl.
H         A hermaphrodite adult.
h         A hermaphrodite under 18.


If the story is coded interr, meaning "Interracial," The characters might be listed as BF Wm etc. The preceding letters mean Black or White.

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Style:


All of the following might be capitalized.  Usually no difference.

1st       First time intercourse; also first time FF or MM.
anal      Anal sex.
bd        means bondage (and discipline)
beast     Bestiality, sex with animals.[Should be "best"]
best      Bestiality, sex with animals.
bi        Bisexuality of one or more characters.
blackmail Sex through threat of exposure 
bondage   Bondage (should be bd)
caution   Something in the story might offend (or even 
          sicken) you, but the author isn't telling you what.
cbt       Cock and ball torture.
cheat     Married or committed people having sex outside of the 
          commitment, cheating on their partner, as distinct from 
          swinging.
cons [or con]  The sex is consensual.  This should mean that 
               ALL the sex is consensual, but some authors use 
               "cons nc" to mean that only some is.
copr      Coprophilia (Fun with feces)
creampie  is one man's ejaculate as sucked out of a woman's
          vagina and consumed by (usually another) man
dom       refers to dominance and submission, should be ds.
ds        [or d/s]  dominance and submission.
exhib     Exhibitionism.
enem      Enemas
Fdom,     [or femdom]  a dominant female
Fembot    A female robot, designed to give sexual pleasure.
fembot    A version of the same, designed to look like a teenaged girl.
filk      New lyrics to a familiar (originally a folk) tune.
fist      Fisting, insertion of the entire hand into anus or vagina. 
furry     Animals with human characteristics.  
goth      Gothic (dark) setting
hist      Has a historical theme 
humil     Humiliation.  
inc       Incest.
interr    Interracial.
lac       [Lactation]  Milk, not from a cow.
magic     Magic, or ghouls, or that sort of background.
mc        "mind-control" a big subgenre.
Mdom      a dominant male.
nc        is non-consensual.  This is rape in law, but the style 
               may be different.
nec       [Necrophilia]  Sex with a dead person
nosex     There is no intercourse in the story.  This is a preemptive code
               in the sense that it overrides any implication of 
               intercourse by other codes used.
oral      Oral-genital contact
parody    Imitation of a style or particular story with
               the intent to amuse.
ped       [Pedophilia] Ages 12 and below.  Should be Mg or something similar.
pett      Heavy petting 
piv       [Penis in vagina]  "Straight" sex.
preg      Either impregnation or sex with a pregnant woman.
Preteen   Ages 12 and below.  Should be Mg or something similar.
rape      Violent rape.
reluc     Woman says no, but loves it when she is raped.
rom       [Romantic]  Sex in the stories stems from the love that 
          one character has for another.  These stories should 
          always be consensual but some writers use it very 
          strangely.
sad       [Sadism]  For "just" inflicting pain. 
safe      Safe sex 
scat      [Scatology]  Involving feces.
ScFi      Science fiction setting.  Please note spelling.
slash     (Usually) homosexual intercourse in fanfic.
sm        Sadomasochism -- inflicting pain for the pleasure of 
                    both. 
snuff     Killing which is supposed to arouse you.
_-solo    Masturbation, as in F-solo = masturbation by an adult woman.
span      or spank [Spanking]  Mild sm.
teen      Teenagers.  Should be mf or something similar.
tg        Trans-gender, men being changed into women (or vice 
               versa).
tort      Torture.
toys      Vibrators or other adult toys
veg       Vegetable. Sex with food. 
viol      Violence, not necessarily connected to the sex.
voy       Voyeur,  peeking.
wife      Wife watching; consensual cuckoldry.
wl        [Wedded Lust] Sex within the marital relationship.
ws        Water sports.  Pissing.
zoo       [Zoophilia]  Caring and consensual sexual relationships
          between humans and animals.

Trias · Post by **Trias** » September 30, 2005, 1:06 am

TRULY THE LEMMING IS NATURE'S RETARD

Trias · Post by **Trias** » September 30, 2005, 1:07 am

wrong thread....beer plx

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » September 30, 2005, 12:31 pm

Cartalas wrote:
I guess you did not read the first line of the article? "Many Americans see the Internet as a lawless frontier, a haven for criminals and sexual deviants that use anonymity to commit crimes without fear of retribution."

You really think they are being payed to find your wife swapping photos with Jice's grandmother? No you moron they are being paid to look into all criminal acts on the internet.

Why do you bother to talk? I mean, it's just embarrassing for everyone involved, including yourself. This taskforce, not just from THAT article, but every article about it, very, very clearly is being created to combat obscenity in the form of consentual pornography. It has nothing to do with internet scams. It has nothing to do with fraud. It has nothing to do to the things that (very wisely) there is no tolerance shown for, like kiddie porn. It is solely and only for combating obscenity, which has not been off the radar for years.

Next time, if you can't get all the way down a few inches on your screen to the bold letters trying to let the preschoolers in the audience know that after the lead in, the article is actually about how "the FBI began implementation of an anti-obscenity initiative designed to crack down on those that produce and distribute deviant pornography", it might be better to just shut the fuck up and let the literate folks actually talk amongst themselves.

Tuddi2 · Post by **Tuddi2** » September 30, 2005, 6:32 pm

i think cart can't help himself, he's gonna make apostate break 50.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » October 7, 2005, 2:54 am

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=10655

ALTA DENA, Calif. – The offices of Max Hardcore’s Max World Entertainment were raided Wednesday under the authority of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the Justice Department.

The FBI seized five video titles, Hardcore’s attorney Jeffrey Douglas told XBiz, including “Pure Max #16,” (European version), “Max Hardcore Fists of Fury #3,” “Max Hardcore Extreme Schoolgirls #6,” (European version), “Max Hardcore Golden Guzzlers #5” and “Max Hardcore Golden Guzzlers #6.”

Additionally, the FBI seized all servers belonging to Hardcore with the purpose of copying and returning them, Douglas said. It is not yet known what other office items have been taken as the investigation is ongoing.

By Thursday afternoon, Hardcore's servers had been returned and the website was active.

Hardcore was not present at the time of the raid, and according to Douglas, is presently attending a trade show in Barcelona, Spain.

Douglas said this is the first federal obscenity investigation involving Hardcore and is in any way related to 2257 record-keeping enforcement.

“Once again the government is wasting tax dollars and otherwise invaluable law enforcement resources to try to force a minority view of morality on all of America,” Hardcore said in a statement. “Five of my movies have been targeted by the federal ‘prude’ patrol. There is no indication of any crime to be alleged except obscenity. If indicted, I will fight to protect my liberty as well as the liberty of consenting adults to watch other adults engage in lawful, consensual, pleasurable sexual action. Shame on the Department of Justice. I am proud of my movies and of those who sell them.”

In 2001, Hardcore was prosecuted by the city of Los Angeles for obscenity, which was not resolved until 2004 with a company plea to a public nuisance.

Born Paul Little in 1956, Hardcore’s films have long been considered some of the most controversial in the industry.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » October 7, 2005, 3:16 am

And so it start.
In 10 years, the only movies you guys will be allowed to see are black and white religious movies. Have fun.

Crav · Post by **Crav** » October 7, 2005, 3:43 am

I think it's a very sneaky attempt by the FBI to get free porn! It's nice to know that while they were busying doing this a spy was able to infiltrate the White House.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » October 7, 2005, 1:21 pm

Max Hardcore makes all the watersports, vomiting, gagging, rough sex type movies with legal women dressed up to look underage. Unless he's an idiot, I'm sure he has all the proper papers signed by the women before they shoot. If he hasn't screwed up and used underage actors, then it's a question of roleplaying. He must make good movies to fool the FBI!

Max is a lightweight compared to some of the Euro and Brazillian stuff out there. I don't understand the attraction of a faceful of shit or vomit but those videos are out there in quantity. Who's to judge what's entertaining among consulting adults? If Max Hardcore gets taken down for roleplaying, then the next freedoms to go would be drawing illegal acts or writing stories about illegal acts.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » October 7, 2005, 1:41 pm

Scary how close to turning the FBI into the Tought Police we already are, isn't it?

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » October 7, 2005, 1:58 pm

some days facist references dont seem so absurd