Texas to deputize violent racists

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 11, 2005, 11:04 pm

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.as ... 7ABE7BBD0A

Border Patrol "Civilian Auxiliary" Proposed
LAST UPDATE: 8/11/2005 11:00:53 AM
Posted By: Jim Forsyth

Several Texas Congressmen are quietly circulating a proposal to approve 'deputized civilians' as an auxiliary to the U.S. Border Patrol, 1200 WOAI news reported today.

The so called "Border Protection Corps" would consist of volunteers who go through a background check and receive training, and would then accompany Border Patrol officers as they search for illegal aliens and drug activity.

"These would be volunteers who go through training, don't have a criminal background, who don't use firearms, and who would serve in a backup capacity to the Border Patrol," said U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who is one of the backers of the proposal.

The chief sponsor, U.S. Rep John Culberson (R-Texas) compares the Border Protection Corps with the posses which brought in criminals in the days of the western frontier.

Smith says it would make sure that volunteer groups like the Minutemen who have begun border monitoring operations do so legally and receive some training.

"Basically, I think it's just born out of the frustration on the part of a lot of people that we're not doing all we can to secure our borders," Smith said.

The head of the U.S. Customs and Border Enforcement division of the Department of Homeland Security has made a similar suggestion, which was immediately rejected by DHS officials.

Smith and Culberson say civilians who are approved for the Border Protection Corps would be 'deputized' and would provide observation and support to uniformed Border Patrol officers. They would not be allowed to make arrests.

So are any of the real americans that post on this forum disgusted to see this redneck fucking trash calling themselves minutemen? aren't minutemen a historical icon of freedom and democracy against a tyrranical oppressor?

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 11, 2005, 11:23 pm

Disgusted, yes. But its texas. The normal laws of rational thought have no impact there. It is the biggest shithole of human waste on the entire planet, outside of certain hell holes in the third world. They have no grasp of reality or history there, and are proud of that.

Hoarmurath · Post by **Hoarmurath** » August 12, 2005, 12:20 am

Jice Virago wrote:Disgusted, yes. But its texas. The normal laws of rational thought have no impact there. It is the biggest shithole of human waste on the entire planet, outside of certain hell holes in the third world. They have no grasp of reality or history there, and are proud of that.

Wow, way to generalize.

Arsecn · Post by **Arsecn** » August 12, 2005, 12:40 am

Hope they come up to "north Mexico" and burn your igloo down fucking anti-american whore.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 12, 2005, 12:44 am

Allllllllll you need is love!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » August 12, 2005, 12:45 am

Arsecn wrote:Hope they come up to "north Mexico" and burn your igloo down fucking anti-american whore.

Global warming will take care of that.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 12, 2005, 12:50 am

LOL

Yeah 'cause you know, Canada has such an amazing record of dealing with natives and immigrants in such a fair and considerate manner.

LOL LOL LOL LOL You can serial kill natives in Canada and get less press than one white chick killing her sister.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 12, 2005, 1:05 am

Wow

You fucking disappoint me.

That is poor form, all round.

Really, get your fucking raging hatred hard ons and shove them up yourself.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 12, 2005, 1:18 am

Wow.

Hate-filled, generalizing racist backlash to a hate-filled, generalizing racist post about suppsed hate-filled, generalizing racists.

My life is officially a Monty Python sketch.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 12, 2005, 1:32 am

Look, I didn't come here for an argument.

Yes you did

No I didn't!

yes you did!

Post by **Xouqoa** » August 12, 2005, 4:18 am

Yeah, fuck Texas and everyone that lives there. Buncha redneck ... er, wait.

Tenuvil · Post by **Tenuvil** » August 12, 2005, 5:47 am

Come visit Texas sometime. We'll make you barbecue!

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 12, 2005, 6:42 am

Kylere wrote:LOL

Yeah 'cause you know, Canada has such an amazing record of dealing with natives and immigrants in such a fair and considerate manner.

LOL LOL LOL LOL You can serial kill natives in Canada and get less press than one white chick killing her sister.

Are you drunk every time you post these days? Every single post has LOL in it, usually more than once.

On topic, "Here's a sack, but you gotta supply your own knobs".

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » August 12, 2005, 7:57 am

ROFL. An american calling out canadians on treatment of natives..

Pot, meet kettle.

"These would be volunteers who go through training, don't have a criminal background, who don't use firearms, and who would serve in a backup capacity to the Border Patrol," said U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who is one of the backers of the proposal.

Wait a minute, who is the government to say that these civilian volunteers can't have firearms. It's their constitutional right to have and carry firearms. Hell, Texas allows for conceal and carry of handguns and hwat do you know. Dubbya is the one that signed the law.

http://www.ncpa.org/press/nrsb052600.html

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 12, 2005, 9:19 am

Animalor, the Canadians went way beyond the US when it came to genocidal practices against natives.

The US modelled themselves on the British form of no one is as worth as much as we are, and the Canadians went with the French model of if you kill them they cannot bother you.

Dexail · Post by **Dexail** » August 12, 2005, 9:35 am

You forgot to mention "neighborhood watch" programs. They are clearly racist since citizens keep an eye out for suspicious or illegal activity and report it to authorities. And the perpetrator might, just might be someone of a different color than yourself.

Good lord, what's this country coming to when the only person I can hate is a white male.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 12, 2005, 9:39 am

Animalor wrote:
"These would be volunteers who go through training, don't have a criminal background, who don't use firearms, and who would serve in a backup capacity to the Border Patrol," said U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who is one of the backers of the proposal.
Wait a minute, who is the government to say that these civilian volunteers can't have firearms. It's their constitutional right to have and carry firearms.

i took it differently. the way i read it: they don't presently use firearms. doesn't mean they won't be able to or have the need to use them once properly trained.

they said 'don't' not 'won't'.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 12, 2005, 9:42 am

The "Indian Removal" policy was implemented to "clear" land for white settlers. Removal was more than another assault on American Indians' land titles. Insatiable greed for land remained a primary consideration, but many people now believed that the removal was the only way of saving American Indians from extermination. As long as the American Indians lived in close proximity to non-Native American communities, they would be decimated by disease, alcohol, and poverty. The Indian Removal Act began in 1830. Forced marches at bayonet-point to relocation settlements resulted in high mortality rates. The infamous removal of the Five Civilized Tribes -- the Choctaws, Creeks, Chickasaws, Cherokees, and Seminoles -- is a dismal page in United States history. By the 1820's the Cherokees, who had established a written constitution modeled after the United States Constitution, a newspaper, schools, and industries in their settlements, resisted removal. In 1838 the federal troops evicted the Cherokees. Approximately four thousand Cherokees died during the removal process because of poor planning by the United States Government.

Ya, you guys were compasionate....

This is funny, Kylere talking about canadian history, a subject I'm sure he knows nothing about. Sure what we did was bad, but don't downplay your role.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 12, 2005, 9:48 am

Where exactly do you get violent racists out of a group of citizens who are trying to prevent people from illegally crossing the border? Do you miss the entire "illegal" portion of illegal alien? If they want to immigrate then they need to go through the process. These are criminals in my mind and need the border crossings need to be stopped.

We are getting huge problems from these illegals across the entire US. They come up here and live 20 to a house......buy one or 2 vehicles to share between them all......buy no insurance (which violates Ohio law)....pay no taxes (which violates state, federal, and local law)....and work for wages that would be lower than a lawful worker because they don't have to pay taxes. They can't speak English, they have no licenses or knowledge of laws governing driving in the states.....so they hit someone and flee the scene. Even if they do catch them afterwards, they fail to show up for court and you pay for your deductible out of pocket and then get your rates raised because you follow the law.

Fuck that......they should shoot them as they cross illegally.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » August 12, 2005, 10:10 am

Might I point you to http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html

Also, please take a peek at http://www.mta.ca/faculty/arts/canadian ... ut/native/

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote: We are getting huge problems from these illegals across the entire US. They come up here and live 20 to a house......buy one or 2 vehicles to share between them all......buy no insurance (which violates Ohio law)....pay no taxes (which violates state, federal, and local law)....and work for wages that would be lower than a lawful worker because they don't have to pay taxes. They can't speak English, they have no licenses or knowledge of laws governing driving in the states.....so they hit someone and flee the scene. Even if they do catch them afterwards, they fail to show up for court and you pay for your deductible out of pocket and then get your rates raised because you follow the law.

Fuck that......they should shoot them as they cross illegally.

Cause as everyone knows, Ohio is THE premiere destination for mexicans that are walking across the border...

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 12, 2005, 10:20 am

What does their destination have to do with it? I am citing examples of the problems being caused by millions of illegals coming into the country in response to someone accusing anyone who opposes it as being a violent racist. Maybe instead of deporting anyone caught in the country back to Mexico, we should send them north to Canada.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » August 12, 2005, 10:41 am

The fact is that we can't afford to hire more official border patrolers. The volunteers are there to help look for the illegals. Not just illegals but drug traffickers as well. If we can't afford folks to do that volunteers help out. Nothing wrong with that.

They won't be armed. As mentioned that they have the right to have weapons, well not on this job. I have the right to have a hand gun but if I brought it to work I am fairly certain I'd be let go. (fired would sound too punny in this instance)

They would be doing nothing more than what our neighborhood watches do or guardian angels as someone mentioned earlier.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » August 12, 2005, 11:03 am

Every other country in the world is allowed to control it's borders. Hell, even Canada controls it's entry points from the USA... like anyone would ever go there.

Somehow I'm a racist because I think the citizens of this country have a right to protect our borders? NOT!

If the federal government won't meet it's obligations to protect the borders then nothing in our Constitution will prohibit the individual states from performing this function.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 12, 2005, 11:49 am

Lynks wrote:
The "Indian Removal" policy was implemented to "clear" land for white settlers. Removal was more than another assault on American Indians' land titles. Insatiable greed for land remained a primary consideration, but many people now believed that the removal was the only way of saving American Indians from extermination. As long as the American Indians lived in close proximity to non-Native American communities, they would be decimated by disease, alcohol, and poverty. The Indian Removal Act began in 1830. Forced marches at bayonet-point to relocation settlements resulted in high mortality rates. The infamous removal of the Five Civilized Tribes -- the Choctaws, Creeks, Chickasaws, Cherokees, and Seminoles -- is a dismal page in United States history. By the 1820's the Cherokees, who had established a written constitution modeled after the United States Constitution, a newspaper, schools, and industries in their settlements, resisted removal. In 1838 the federal troops evicted the Cherokees. Approximately four thousand Cherokees died during the removal process because of poor planning by the United States Government.
Ya, you guys were compasionate....

This is funny, Kylere talking about canadian history, a subject I'm sure he knows nothing about. Sure what we did was bad, but don't downplay your role.

Actually I know North American Native history quite well, Canada is just an organization founded on their lands. Canada has done some really cool stuff, nothing earth shaking, but cool on the plus side. However Canada treated its natives worse and still does.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » August 12, 2005, 4:37 pm

Metanis wrote:Every other country in the world is allowed to control it's borders. Hell, even Canada controls it's entry points from the USA... like anyone would ever go there.

Somehow I'm a racist because I think the citizens of this country have a right to protect our borders? NOT!

If the federal government won't meet it's obligations to protect the borders then nothing in our Constitution will prohibit the individual states from performing this function.

I think the US is retarded for not protecting its borders better. Allowing thousands of illegals to cross your border every day might be good for the slave labor industry but when you have radicals across the world wanting to kill you I do not think it is the smartest policy.

Hoarmurath · Post by **Hoarmurath** » August 12, 2005, 4:54 pm

I just saw on the news yesterday that whites are now the minority in Texas...

Kaldaur · Post by **Kaldaur** » August 12, 2005, 5:19 pm

I'm gonna have to side with Texas on this one. Go about immigration in a legal fashion. The more people we have guarding our borders to keep out illegal immigrants, the better in my eyes.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 12, 2005, 6:27 pm

Hoarmurath wrote:I just saw on the news yesterday that whites are now the minority in Texas...

Whites are the minority only if other "minorities" are lumped into one category together. I think it was at 50.2% minorities (total). Too damn lazy to link any of the multiple articles I have seen about it.

In regards to the comment about carrying firearms, I don't read it that they will. I read it that that will not. The title of the thread is kind of funny since the article itself seems to indicate weeding out the "bad" people. Also, I don't see how it is racist to protect your borders from illegal crossings. It just happens to be that the population coming across that border are almost all hispanic. The other issue along the border besides illegal immigrants is the drug trade.

Violence along the border in some of the towns (Laredo for example) has been growing as well which causes the need for additional patrols on our side of the border to make sure this does not "bleed" across. Look through recent news regarding the US Consulate there closing several times due to gunfights and other things happening nearby on the Mexican side of the border. Even the Mexican officials have greatly increased their police force in these areas.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 12, 2005, 6:50 pm

Kylere wrote:Animalor, the Canadians went way beyond the US when it came to genocidal practices against natives.

The US modelled themselves on the British form of no one is as worth as much as we are, and the Canadians went with the French model of if you kill them they cannot bother you.

I'm calling complete bullshit on this one, in American History (Read U.S History) we *white protestant forefathers and their following generations - you know the white folk who fled religous persecution to have a better way of life in peace before slaughtering the native inhabitants of the existing nation they "Founded" * completely decimated hundreds of thousands of indians even before we were Americans. So...while I am not about to be caught dead defending Canada, I will step up and call bullshit on a blantant miscarriage of historical referencing. And you who claim to be "indian" yourself should know better - Chief.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 12, 2005, 6:52 pm

And another thing people need to get out of their head.
American does not = White.
Nationality in America = Mutt.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 12, 2005, 7:11 pm

Sylvos, the Native American in Canada today is far more screwed than the one in the US.

Please go read up on it, Canada doesn't talk about it anymore than the US does. The US seems to think Custer died for their sins and Canada seems to think it was all before self government.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » August 12, 2005, 7:16 pm

I applaud Texas' efforts to bring this group under state regulation, rather than just leaving it a bunch of civilian yahoos with no oversight.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » August 12, 2005, 7:46 pm

Kylere, you smokem biggem pipem, or drink too much lightning in a bottle.

Canada has a great record with our natives. Shit they have all the territories a lock on Casinos and tax free everything.

Further, how long will it take before these "natives" realize that the fucking world is changing and they need to change with it. I am tired of subsidizing their lazy fucking asses. Get with the program, get off the reserve and move with main stream society. Get an education and stop feeling like you are entitled to jack or shit.

The collective group of natives were far worse on each other than the white man ever was. They murdered, enslaved, and stole land from each other long before the white man landed in Virginia.

I don't see many "blue coats" mustering to kill the evil injun any more.

Finally, to all you jack holes who slam Canada, I suggest you step outside your front door sometime, leave that shithole you call a country and visit a place that is safer, cleaner, healthier, and more loved than your pathetic sorry asses will ever be.

Heh

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » August 12, 2005, 8:13 pm

Atokal wrote: Finally, to all you jack holes who slam Canada, I suggest you step outside your front door sometime, leave that shithole you call a country and visit a place that is safer, cleaner, healthier, and more loved than your pathetic sorry asses will ever be.

Heh

Um.. ok, I guess Canadia is far superior to us, and has improved all the bad things aBoot the U.S.

The memories I have of visiting Canadia when I was younger are the paper mill across the border from international falls, which was probably the worst smell I have EVER had the misfortune of smelling in my life. (and I have been all over the U.S.) And a whole lot of nothing besides that.. A pretty boring place. To each his own, its not for me, but don't try to make it out to be some kind of a fucking mecca please.

Oh and btw kylere, a bit of useful information I learned yesterday is that sylvos majored in history.. Not saying that means he knows everything about history, but it just might mean he could possible have a little better grasp on this topic than you presume to.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 12, 2005, 8:20 pm

Paper mills are stinky.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 12, 2005, 8:32 pm

Pig farms are just as bad!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 12, 2005, 9:23 pm

Arsecn wrote:Hope they come up to "north Mexico" and burn your igloo down fucking anti-american whore.

shouldnt you be laying down barb wire and mining the desert at the mexican border, you buffalo fucking klanner?

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 12, 2005, 9:25 pm

Kylere wrote:LOL

Yeah 'cause you know, Canada has such an amazing record of dealing with natives and immigrants in such a fair and considerate manner.

LOL LOL LOL LOL You can serial kill natives in Canada and get less press than one white chick killing her sister.

how are you posting on this forum? I just bought your computer, your house and your car from your anscestors for two glass beads and a cast iron cooking pot.

LOL LOL

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 13, 2005, 11:27 am

kyoukan wrote:
Kylere wrote:LOL

Yeah 'cause you know, Canada has such an amazing record of dealing with natives and immigrants in such a fair and considerate manner.

LOL LOL LOL LOL You can serial kill natives in Canada and get less press than one white chick killing her sister.
how are you posting on this forum? I just bought your computer, your house and your car from your anscestors for two glass beads and a cast iron cooking pot.

LOL LOL

You are a racist sack of shit.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 13, 2005, 11:29 am

Atokal wrote:Kylere, you smokem biggem pipem, or drink too much lightning in a bottle.

Canada has a great record with our natives. Shit they have all the territories a lock on Casinos and tax free everything.

Further, how long will it take before these "natives" realize that the fucking world is changing and they need to change with it. I am tired of subsidizing their lazy fucking asses. Get with the program, get off the reserve and move with main stream society. Get an education and stop feeling like you are entitled to jack or shit.

The collective group of natives were far worse on each other than the white man ever was. They murdered, enslaved, and stole land from each other long before the white man landed in Virginia.

I don't see many "blue coats" mustering to kill the evil injun any more.

Finally, to all you jack holes who slam Canada, I suggest you step outside your front door sometime, leave that shithole you call a country and visit a place that is safer, cleaner, healthier, and more loved than your pathetic sorry asses will ever be.

Heh

Yet another racist sack of shit, funny how much, you Midnyte and Kyoukan sound alike

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 13, 2005, 12:06 pm

I doubt that Canada or the US stands above the other in slaughtering native americans. Both have done this in their history and both completely ignore it when teaching "history" to their children. But then how would it look to teach your kids that you went so far as to lure the Indians in for peace talks to slaughter them at the meetings.....or to track down their women and children to massacre them.......or to teach them how you paid anyone who murdered one and brought the scalp.

Shit....if you mention scalping to pretty much any US kid, he will believe that is something the savage indians did to white people in the 1800's and not something the US government was responsible for.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » August 13, 2005, 1:35 pm

The natives faired much better in Canada than the US but don't think this was out of inate goodness up here. The indians had a strategic importance at the time with the tug of war between English and French so both sides actively pursued alliances with different tribes. After the British won the indians were of little strategic importance anymore and we stole their land the same as the white folks down south, tho more often with the pen than the gun.

Currently natives are doing okay IMO. They are Canadian citizens with voting rights, control their own government and government funds, and free medical care and post secondary educations. It still isn't a bed of roses but they have the tools to succeed if they take advantage of them. As with any population some will work hard and suceed, some will be lucky and suceed, some will be unlucky and fail and others will get as much as they can while doing as little work as neccessary. I think we are all the same in this regard.

As to people like Atokol that begrudge them what they have...how much wealth have we gotten from the resources we've stole from these people? We owe them far more than we give them.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » August 13, 2005, 1:48 pm

Natives up here definitely have had a better history than in the States, tho far from "good". Forthe summed it up pretty well, but, and trust me, TRUST me, I'm going to go find some hard alcohol to drink after typing these following words, I agree with some of what Atokal said. They're entitled to all the government assistance and benefits they have, but they need to realize that the world is moving forwards without them. Being bitter about the past does nothing to help their future. I'm generalizing here of course, because not all natives are like this, but as a collective whole they need to move forwards.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 13, 2005, 2:14 pm

Of course you feel your country treated the natives better, that is called ethnocentrism. It may not be the truth, but it is what I expect people to think, people should give their own country a bit of slack.

I am not slamming you for it, but the harsh cold reality is that their was no excuse for europeans tromping all over the place and announcing to the people already living there that they were explorers and had just discovered the place.

Modern day Canada does provide some bennies to natives, on about the same level as the States provide, but the natives are still treated very much more like second class citizens than in the states. Of course if the states had not enslaved hundreds of thousands of africans, maybe they would put natives in that spot.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » August 13, 2005, 3:11 pm

I am not sure where you get off calling people that want to stop ILLEGAL immigration...racist. El Presidente Bush and our government isn't doing jack shit about stopping it....somebody has to help. Quite frankly I am tired of my tax dollars going to more shit that I do not support than I can list here....and the thought of them going to people here ILLEGALLY disgusts me almost as much as Kyouklan spinning this way the fuck off course.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2005, 3:26 pm

Moonwynd wrote:I am not sure where you get off calling people that want to stop ILLEGAL immigration...racist.

because their intentions aren't to keep illegal immigrants out. their intentions are to keep mexicans out. don't even waste your efforts on trying to argue that. how many of these twats would start whining if they met someone from canada or europe here illegally? probably none of them.

people don't form armed militias because they think their already low state and federal taxes are being somewhat overburdened by a rash of illegal immigrants. they do it because they are a bunch of racist scumbags.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » August 13, 2005, 4:24 pm

because their intentions aren't to keep illegal immigrants out. their intentions are to keep mexicans out. don't even waste your efforts on trying to argue that. how many of these twats would start whining if they met someone from canada or europe here illegally? probably none of them.

Catch a fucking clue. The problem is ILLEGAL immigration FROM Mexico...not from Canada..not from Sweden...not from Kenya....we border Mexico and we have a problem with Mexican people crossing the border ILLEGALLY to enter the US.

The illegal immigrants happen to be from Mexico since they border us....it's not being racist...it's being a realist.

If Pangea still existed...and we bordered Africa...then perhaps your opinion might have merit...as it stands now...your point is about 225 million years too late.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 13, 2005, 4:34 pm

Racist Kyoukan supports illegal activity as long as it doe not affect her.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 13, 2005, 4:35 pm

This is the gayest thread of the week.

Moonwynd · Post by **Moonwynd** » August 13, 2005, 4:43 pm

Nick wrote:This is the gayest thread of the week.

Your post cinched that up for sure