Kilmoll makes 3 retarded posts in one week - Righties jizz

[Nick]

Well, I think this is a new record for how incredibly stupid and laughable the so called right wing conservatives here can be.

You revel in your own stupidity, thanks for the laugh, but in all seriousness you should sort your fucking lives out.

How about turning one of those many guns you own on yourself and do us all a favour. Thanks.

If you want to discuss the finer points of the current Iraq situation then at least attempt to be involved in a MILDLY intelligent debate (you know that bigger picture you mistakenly think you have a fucking clue about), as opposed the riotously retarded bullshit the last few posts have been taken up with.

You wonder why the world thinks you're a bunch of dickheads? Honest to god the USA has one of the worst education systems on the planet if it breeds this sort of shit.

Read a fucking book and stop being such a bunch of fascist cunts, then come back here and admit what a goddamn pleb fuck you have been so we can all laugh at your pitiful intellect.


Jesus


Fucking


Christ.

People are dying, this whole fiasco is a disgrace of the highest order and if you BOTHER your fucking holes to check out US foreign policy for the last 30-40 years you will find out WHY this is currently happening.

Doublethink your way out and mislead yourselves, everyone else can see how fucking stupid you really are.

And it is REALLY FUCKING STUPID.

Now eat your own feaces and die,

Peace

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

We have to help most of the world out because shithole countries like yours can't find 10 sober people to go abroad and do jack shit. In case you had mush in your fucking head you imbecile, the U.N. and not the U.S. has been the ones making policies up until this current Iraq situation. The U.S. just has to provide all the money and manpower for it....so this time we said fuck the U.N.

[Nick]

Haha you fucking retard Ireland is one of the richest nations per person on the planet, try again perhaps? Thought so, wanker.

We don't bother enforcing our fucking "democracy" (read - corrupt fucking figurehead murderous assholes - i.e Saddam Hussein) because it's not our fucking business, look after your own country and leave the rest of the world to do the same.
You would not have given two fucking shits about the Iraqi's plight if they didn't have the second largest oil reserves on the planet.
Spare me your hilariously ignorant assumptions.

This time you said fuck the UN and it has caused this, unilateralism for hegemony is bad mmkay....

Now take your shithead posts and shove them up your arse.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Interesting. Iraqi oil accounts for about 6% of the imported oil into the U.S. If we wanted to take over an oi souce, we could have taken Mexico or Venezuela or Canada much easier. Hell, Mexico and Canada provide double the oil that Iraq does. If we just "take over" Iraq and keep the oil for ourselves, then I will retract every statement I have ever made about us being honorable. I do highly doubt you have the balls to do the same when we leave Iraq.

I have no doubt you rank above us in money per capita. We spend more than any 5 countries on the planet in foreign aid. Maybe if you greedy cowards would start pulling your weight then things might even out.

[Lohrno]

Interesting. Iraqi oil accounts for about 6% of the imported oil into the U.S. If we wanted to take over an oi souce, we could have taken Mexico or Venezuela or Canada much easier. Hell, Mexico and Canada provide double the oil that Iraq does. If we just "take over" Iraq and keep the oil for ourselves, then I will retract every statement I have ever made about us being honorable. I do highly doubt you have the balls to do the same when we leave Iraq.

I have no doubt you rank above us in money per capita. We spend more than any 5 countries on the planet in foreign aid. Maybe if you greedy cowards would start pulling your weight then things might even out.

Are you actually suggesting that we went to war because we felt sorry for the people of Iraq??

[Nick]

Frankly dickhead using billions of dollars worth of murdering devices on people who have at best Balsa wood planes is about as cowardly as it gets, is that hard for you to comprehend?

I will not retract my statement when the US leaves Iraq because, bluntly, they should never have fucking been there. It's got nothing to do with balls moron, the evidence for why it was a bad idea is in the world all around you if you care to open your fucking eyes.

Your own last 3 posts are testament to that fact.

Really Kilmoll, you should have just stopped talking after you said, "Fuck England" and you may not have ended up making such a goddamn fool of yourself.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

No. I think we went to war because the instability of the middle east was going to come to a boil. Granted, oil is a side effect of that and if/when alternate energy takes the place of oil, the middle east will be a completely deserted wasteland that has nuclear weapons and nothing to live for.

Saddam happened to be a very large attainable target that represented the bad of the middle east. Bin Laden had mroe resources and was going to be much more difficult to catch. So Bush needed to have a very large and visible impact on the middle east and still have a chance to change how things are run throughout that region. The one you can truly blame for kicking the whole thing off this time around is really Bin Laden. We would not be over there doing jack or shit if he had not put 2 planes into the WTC.

You can say what you want about the reasoning for being in Iraq, but the bottom line is that there is no way in hell we would be over there right now if we had not been attacked. After an attack on our soil, the only way Bush could ever have gotten a second term is to have administered justice. Quite frankly, 80% of the U.S. citizens probably think Bin Laden is in Iraq anyway. They have no idea that Afghanistan and Iraq are two different countries. So Bush gave them 2 fights that appear to most people to be the same.....and he tooples a sadistic fucker and helps to implement a democracy into a key spot in the Middle East. Not to mention, it makes the rest of the Mid East real nervous about having terrorists caught in their countries for fear of being next.

[Nick]

So essentially the same argument can apply the other way.

The US supports Saudi Arabia, one of the most barbaric regimes on the planet, it also supports Israel, again, a diturbingly barbaric oppressor of Palestinians.

The US supports others two but for the sake of argument I will leave it there.

Now, does that mean, because these 2 countries murder people, that people can legitimately go and nuke the US to hell? Of course it doesn't.

Common sense, an educated viewpoint, peaceful restraint (and the US has never actually used that in the middle east, check your own history), diplomacy and actual understanding instead of a blind belief of US righteousness.

What if the people in Palestine (who have more reason to blow up Americans than the US does to blow up the Middle east, given the military of Israel is supplied by the US and is responsible for Palestinian deaths) decided to attack the US?

In fact, what if anyone decided to attack anyone else because 80% of the population was too fucking ignorant or hateful to check up on why 9/11 even happened.
Such a fucking benevolent evolved society the US is. Don't make me puke.

Your argument is a truth but it is also a fucking disgrace, which you perpetuate to this day with your moronic posts.

[Winnow]

You're not making any sense Teeny. All you're doing is ranting and raving without providing solutions.

BTW, the United States is starting to exploit Northern Ireland because of their cheap labor just like any other third world country. You're wealth must be focused in the top few percent because you have lots of cheap Irish labor for Dell and other companies to exploit.

Are you just mad at the U.S. because we'll soon be making fun of Irish accents on the other end of a Dell customer service call instead of someone from India?

Already poorer than other regions in Britain - people in Northern Ireland have 14 % less to spend each week on average than in Britain. You can't talk of peace and at the same time create the conditions for instability and violence.

This is the economic reality which makes the national conflict irresolvable on a capitalist basis. The choice which capitalism offers of either the continued existence of a poverty-ridden state in the North, or else its merger with the no less poverty-ridden state in the South, is no choice at all.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

You moron, it is the British that established Israel and the U.N. that maintains it. Sure we are allies with Israel as is every U.N. nation. Again, we are just the only ones in the U.N. that actually DO anything and every U.N. action is viewed as a U.S. action. Did you ever stop to think that the middle East blames the U.S. for the actions of the U.N.?

[Nick]

I am fucking ranting, because frankly I am sick of your shitheaded opinions.

Its got nothing to do with who founded Israel (since you can't read or comprehend the simplest things), it is to do with their continued illegal occupation of Palestine, of which the US has pretty much payed for with several hundred billion pounds thus far.

You claim to be the only country to do anything, the fact is your most blatantly retarded "anything" is causing thousands of innocent less wealthy people to die whilst you fucks sit drinking your fat fucking Mcdonalds Big Gulps whatever they fuck they are called.

Edit: Winnow, nice try

Nice way to avoid the issues at hand by the way.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

I get it now. You are a powerless whining little shit who needs some confirmation in his life. Good luck.

[Canelek]

you fucks sit drinking your fat fucking Mcdonalds Big Gulps whatever they fuck they are called

I had to LOL at that one.

[Nick]

I see Kilmoll's argument has died at the fourth post.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

I am fucking ranting, because frankly I am sick of your shitheaded opinions.

Yup. We know that when someone has a differing opinion you and your kind get outraged!!! LOL

Kilmoll, this really has been priceless. I know this wasn't your intent, but wow has it shown what the ultra radical liberals are made of.

[Nick]

What has been priceless, noting the stupidity of your fucking whole point? The lack of any relevant depth, compassion or logic?

Fucking pleb.

[Lohrno]

ultra radical liberals

Good job throwing labels around. It almost sounds as if there are such things here.

[Nick]

Midnyte, not to mention people like you and Kilmoll are considered extremists in the rest of the civilised world.

[Zaelath]

Interesting. Iraqi oil accounts for about 6% of the imported oil into the U.S.

Congratulations, on what must be the most ignorant use of a statistic in the last 100 years. Bravo.

[Canelek]

It's the booze.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Midnyte, not to mention people like you and Kilmoll are considered extremists in the rest of the civilised world.

Really? Besides the "fuck muslims" comment, point out to me how I am an extremist to anything other than being realistic. Please show me.

[Nick]

Nearly every single one of your posts.

What Americans like you don't realise is the concepts you take as perfectly reasonable are looked at by most of the rest of the planet with an extremely suspicious raised eyebrow and, "ummm...didn't we like leave this behind a few centuries ago."

It is support of a doctrine for Global Hegemony, which in other words is Global domination, which is bad....mmkay?

Then wondering why people go and blow up your buildings. WHAT A SHOCK!

I am not about to go through your posts as quite literally nearly all of them are hysterically small minded, intolerant of anything outside pre-approved Bush propoganda and uneducated in their overall tone.
Realistic is a word I don't think many people would pair you with. Deluded comes to mind and that's about as close as you'll get.

[Midnyte_Ragebringer]

Nearly every single one of your posts.

What Americans like you don't realise is the concepts you take as perfectly reasonable are looked at by most of the rest of the planet with an extremely suspicious raised eyebrow and, "ummm...didn't we like leave this behind a few centuries ago."

It is support of a doctrine for Global Hegemony, which in other words is Global domination, which is bad....mmkay?

Then wondering why people go and blow up your buildings. WHAT A SHOCK!

I am not about to go through your posts as quite literally nearly all of them are hysterically small minded, intolerant of anything outside pre-approved Bush propoganda and uneducated in their overall tone.
Realistic is a word I don't think many people would pair you with. Deluded comes to mind and that's about as close as you'll get.

Like I thought. Thank you for clarifying that you have no reason to continue to speak of me in such a way. Thank you.

[Nick]

The above is called Doublethink. It's mentioned in a really excellent book called 1984.

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[Lynks]

5-6% of the Iraqi oil is exported to the WORLD. 20% of the US oil is from Iraq.

Way to manipulate the facts Killmol.

[Forthe]

I have no doubt you rank above us in money per capita. We spend more than any 5 countries on the planet in foreign aid. Maybe if you greedy cowards would start pulling your weight then things might even out.

The EU currently spends 3x as much on foreign aid as the US (and that includes all the money you give to Israel) and has plans to double that amount.

You're not making any sense Teeny. All you're doing is ranting and raving without providing solutions.

BTW, the United States is starting to exploit Northern Ireland because of their cheap labor just like any other third world country. You're wealth must be focused in the top few percent because you have lots of cheap Irish labor for Dell and other companies to exploit.

Are you just mad at the U.S. because we'll soon be making fun of Irish accents on the other end of a Dell customer service call instead of someone from India?

Already poorer than other regions in Britain - people in Northern Ireland have 14 % less to spend each week on average than in Britain. You can't talk of peace and at the same time create the conditions for instability and violence.

This is the economic reality which makes the national conflict irresolvable on a capitalist basis. The choice which capitalism offers of either the continued existence of a poverty-ridden state in the North, or else its merger with the no less poverty-ridden state in the South, is no choice at all.

Ireland's economy is pretty strong. GDP per capita is on par with Canada, 2nd highest in the EU only behind Luxembourg (fuck those rich bastards, tho I'll admit to having NFC where Luxembourg is). If they keep growing at the same rates they have been over the last decade they'll surpass US GDP per capita in a few years.

[Aruman]

If you want to read an interesting (although extremely long and involved) article on the state of foriegn aid from various countries, go here and spend some time reading it. It should keep many of you busy for several months.

Check this site:

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp

It isn't simply a matter of who gives the most. There are some aspects of aid in this article that I never considered, and am sure most if not all of you considered either.

There are some eye opening reports/comments on several countries, not just the United States, so let's not be too quick to point fingers at each other, as this particular link shows(even though it is somewhat dated): http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what_we_do/issu ... utrade.htm

[Cartalas]

Hmmm While I admire Tennys Passion for doing the right thing I have one question, If all these EU countries thinks what the US did was against the law why didnt they step up and stop us? Where is the military protecting the Iraq's? Where are the economic sactions against the U.S.?

[Chmee]

Ireland's economy is pretty strong. GDP per capita is on par with Canada, 2nd highest in the EU only behind Luxembourg (fuck those rich bastards, tho I'll admit to having NFC where Luxembourg is). If they keep growing at the same rates they have been over the last decade they'll surpass US GDP per capita in a few years.

Luxembourg's GDP per capita is already higher than the U.S.'s according to http://www.NationMaster.com, by a pretty considerable margin.

Luxembourg - 48,221
United States - 33,108

Of course, their population is pretty small, 454,157. Not positive, but I seem to remember that a fairly substantial factor in their high GDP is that they are a low tax/regulatory haven within the EU, so a lot of businesses take advantage of that to have headquarters etc there. Not that there is anything wrong with that, quite the contrary it is obviously a pretty successful strategy for them.

[Chmee]

What Americans like you don't realise is the concepts you take as perfectly reasonable are looked at by most of the rest of the planet with an extremely suspicious raised eyebrow and, "ummm...didn't we like leave this behind a few centuries ago."

So the rest of the planet has been one big happy enlightened family since 1705 or so?

[Forthe]

Ireland's economy is pretty strong. GDP per capita is on par with Canada, 2nd highest in the EU only behind Luxembourg (fuck those rich bastards, tho I'll admit to having NFC where Luxembourg is). If they keep growing at the same rates they have been over the last decade they'll surpass US GDP per capita in a few years.

Luxembourg's GDP per capita is already higher than the U.S.'s according to http://www.NationMaster.com, by a pretty considerable margin.

Luxembourg - 48,221
United States - 33,108

Of course, their population is pretty small, 454,157. Not positive, but I seem to remember that a fairly substantial factor in their high GDP is that they are a low tax/regulatory haven within the EU, so a lot of businesses take advantage of that to have headquarters etc there. Not that there is anything wrong with that, quite the contrary it is obviously a pretty successful strategy for them.

Sorry Chmee, I meant Ireland not Luxembourg. Ireland has averaged ~7% growth the last decade.

[Chmee]

Sorry Chmee, I meant Ireland not Luxembourg. Ireland has averaged ~7% growth the last decade.

Ah, sorry I misread. And yeah, Ireland has been doing quite well in recent years.

[Niffoni]

Everyone in this thread is a fucking idiot, especially me.

[Tyek]

Good job throwing labels around. It almost sounds as if there are such things here.

Isn't that what Teeny does every single time he posts? I also think his thread here is as retarded as any started by Killmoll. You don't like his posts so you start a "Killmoll is retarded" thread? Are you in third grade?

While I lean to the liberal side of things, I would love for a Nick and a few others to offer, suggest, whatever how they would have, or could have handled the situation. It is great to sit and call out every move made by the US. We call that Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

It is harder to come up with a true solution. I know nothing we say here matters in the larger sense, but the constant America Sucks comments are getting old. Many countries make mistakes. Many of us do not support the war. I do not, but now that we are there, what the fuck are we supposed to do? If we just pull out you would bitch when all hell broke loose.

[Nick]

I could give a shit.

[Aabidano]

I could give a shit.

Then shut up?

[Xanupox]

WTF>!<?!

Who the fuck is this Nick guy?

Fuckin go die and never logon here again, what a waste of my time to read that shit.

[miir]

WTF>!<?!

Who the fuck is this Nick guy?

Fuckin go die and never logon here again, what a waste of my time to read that shit.

Take your own advice.

[Tyek]

Nick wrote:
I could give a shit.

Then shut up?

I have to agree here. If you could give a shit what is the point of your thread?

People are dying, this whole fiasco is a disgrace of the highest order and if you BOTHER your fucking holes to check out US foreign policy for the last 30-40 years you will find out WHY this is currently happening.

I also need to point out that you claimed anyone who voted for Bush was killing people, yet you make this statement. Over the time period you stated we have had Republican and Democratic presidents, congressional bodies, etc... So how does someone's voting for Bush change anything? Apparently we cannot win no matter who we vote for so what is the point. We are America, the big evil empire and we just suck. Unlike the other countries like Germany, The UK, Spain and their glowing performances over the past 30-40 years we cannot seem to get it right. PLEASE NICK COME SAVE US!!

I remember being 21 too. I was ready to save the world, I wore my heart on my sleeve and I tried to help. I realized one day the only thing I can really do to change things is to teach my kids the values I hold dear, stand by my convictions and live a good life. If I impact one person positively then I did my job. I commend you on your passion. I understand your frustrations and I hope you truly can do something positive to change the world, but throwing out sarcastic comments about the US every post does nothing. Go change the world man, most of the people on VV are beyond saving anyway, especially me.

[Zaelath]

I also need to point out that you claimed anyone who voted for Bush was killing people, yet you make this statement. Over the time period you stated we have had Republican and Democratic presidents, congressional bodies, etc... So how does someone's voting for Bush change anything?

It was quite clear by the time you elected him that he was a lying scumbag and had taken you to war on the flimsiest of pretexts. By returning him to office you ratified his decision to go to war in Iraq. It wouldn't have changed that you are still in Iraq now, but at least the world wouldn't have thought that the *majority of Americans* were in favour of killing sand niggers for Oil.

All that shite about congress; Bush got himself voted emporer on the back of 9/11 hysteria so that he could attack anyone he feels like. Congress is a joke.

All this double-speak, and freeing the Iraqi's from Saddam is just the most disgusting show of three-monkey syndrome. That you spout it back is bad, that you actually believe it is sorrowful.

I might not like Winnow's politics, but at least I can respect him.

[Tyek]

I don't recall saying I voted either for, or against Bush.

I was pointing out that Teeny claims that the problems stem for the last 40 years of our policies and that would include Clinton, Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon and Carter to name a most of them. Congress does in fact have a say, a big one in fact. Bush gets away with a lot of crap, he is not a good President. Look back at my posting history and show me where I ever claimed he was. Teeny and others here like to claim that we suck because of Bush, or this or that. America is not a perfect place, but neither is any other country in the world. Sorry if you cannot see that.

[Xzion]

I don't recall saying I voted either for, or against Bush.

I was pointing out that Teeny claims that the problems stem for the last 40 years of our policies and that would include Clinton, Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon and Carter to name a most of them. Congress does in fact have a say, a big one in fact. Bush gets away with a lot of crap, he is not a good President. Look back at my posting history and show me where I ever claimed he was. Teeny and others here like to claim that we suck because of Bush, or this or that. America is not a perfect place, but neither is any other country in the world. Sorry if you cannot see that.

great post, americans are just people, nothing more or nothing less, a lot of them are stupid, a lot of them are assholes, a lot of them are ignorant, a lot of them are fat… yet there is SOME good here, you cant stereotype "americans" or even "bush supporters" to an extent, bring about the many mistakes of this fucked up admin., but dont take it out on the american people as a whole, or your no better then the ignorant fuckers that rejoice at our governments fucked up policies and attempt to weaken freedom as a whole

[Forthe]

I don't recall saying I voted either for, or against Bush.

I was pointing out that Teeny claims that the problems stem for the last 40 years of our policies and that would include Clinton, Bush, Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon and Carter to name a most of them. Congress does in fact have a say, a big one in fact. Bush gets away with a lot of crap, he is not a good President. Look back at my posting history and show me where I ever claimed he was. Teeny and others here like to claim that we suck because of Bush, or this or that. America is not a perfect place, but neither is any other country in the world. Sorry if you cannot see that.

great post, americans are just people, nothing more or nothing less, a lot of them are stupid, a lot of them are assholes, a lot of them are ignorant, a lot of them are fat… yet there is SOME good here, you cant stereotype "americans" or even "bush supporters" to an extent, bring about the many mistakes of this fucked up admin., but dont take it out on the american people as a whole, or your no better then the ignorant fuckers that rejoice at our governments fucked up policies and attempt to weaken freedom as a whole

You are citizens of the country doing this shit. A shitty situation to be in for the people with half a clue for sure but it is the reality. Nationalism is a two edged sword, disassociating yourself when it serves you purpose is a pussy response.

Not all Germans were Nazi and a large segment opposed them. Germany still has a collective shame about their actions and IMO are pretty damn brave people that face up to it even now 60 years later. It certainly isn't an easy thing to do. Just ask the Serbs after a decade of disassociating themselves from their actions a decade ago were slapped in the face with video evidence this week.

I'm not calling all Americans war mongers or murderers and I realize plenty of you actively opposed GW. However as citizens you are part of the machine even grudgingly, accept it (and yes it sucks) and don't try twisting rationalizations to justify it or separate yourself from it.

And for fucks sake try not to let this shit happen again.

[Tyek]

You are citizens of the country doing this shit. A shitty situation to be in for the people with half a clue for sure but it is the reality. Nationalism is a two edged sword, disassociating yourself when it serves you purpose is a pussy response.

I assume you are posting this about every country that was part of the war?

The UK for example?

[Sueven]

I'm not calling all Americans war mongers or murderers and I realize plenty of you actively opposed GW. However as citizens you are part of the machine even grudgingly, accept it (and yes it sucks) and don't try twisting rationalizations to justify it or separate yourself from it.

So are you. By the "you must resist with every fiber of your being or be called a collaborator" theory, our allies sure as fuck ought to do something to oppose us. In the same way that you apparently expect American citizens opposed to the Iraq war to magically do something about it, you ought to be installing a government that would be willing to stand up to our murderous wishes.

[Nick]

Lol Ninjapox why don't you send some of your faggoty army buddies around! Better yet, go die in your fucking stupid war.

I appreciate the comments Tyek, I was more pointing how I give a shit about peoples negative opinion of me. I don't think I stated that Bush was solely to blame as if you look at US foreign policy with any degree of objectivity it is apparant this doctrine has been in effect since pretty much day 1.

It's the people who refuse to acknowledge BLATANT facts that do my head in. They are just the fucking sheep of this planet.

[Fash]

what about just being simple humans, unable to possibly effect the ancient global conspiracy that drives the direction of civilization on this planet?

my only dream for humanity is to transfer the 'virus' of humanity to another planet, to ensure survival of the species... before an ELE ends the reign of humans on planet earth.

fuck isreal, and fuck the bible with the qurans dick.

[kyoukan]

Interesting. Iraqi oil accounts for about 6% of the imported oil into the U.S.

do you have even the slightest clue what 6% of the US's oil imports are.

ps: it was 0% two years ago.

[Trias]

YOU DON'T KNOW THE FACTS YOU IGNORANT FUCK AMERICANS

I AM SUPERIOR AND NOT DUMB LIKE YOU FAGGOTS THAT NEED TO KILL YOURSELVES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALIZE THE FACTS I POST LIKE THE FACTS IN THIS POST BECAUSE YOU ARE RETARDED ASSFUCK MONKEYS I BET YOU FUCK YOUR CHILDREN HAHAHAHAHAH HAHAH I CAN"T BELIEVE HOW STUPID YOU ARE


hahahhAHAH IF YOU WQOULD ONLY REALIZE HOW MUCH BETTER I AM AND JUST ACCEPT THIS AS A FACT AND THEN AND ONLY THEN MAYBE WILL I ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AS PART OF THE SAME SPECIES AS ME HARHAHAHAHAHA YOU SO STUPID

afk bangers and crubeens bye

[VariaVespasa]

What the hell are crubeens?