TIME Magazine Top 100 movies list

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies ... 20,00.html

Here's the list, alphabetically sorted. There's no #1 or #100, just the "100 best". Note that some series of movies are considered a single production for the purpose of this list (The Apu Trilogy, Lord of the Rings, Godfather 1&2, Decalogue and a couple of others).

• Aguirre: the Wrath of God (1972)
  The Apu Trilogy (1955, 1956, 1959)
  The Awful Truth (1937)
  Baby Face (1933)
  Bande à part (1964)
  Barry Lyndon (1975)
  Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980)
  Blade Runner (1982)
  Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
  Brazil (1985)
  Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
  Camille (1936)
  Casablanca (1942)
  Charade (1963)
  Children of Paradise (1945)
  Chinatown (1974)
  Chungking Express (1994)
  Citizen Kane (1941)
  City Lights (1931)
  City of God (2002)
  Closely Watched Trains (1966)
  The Crime of Monsieur Lange (1936)
  The Crowd (1928)
  Day for Night (1973)
  The Decalogue (1989)
  Detour (1945)
  The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972)
  Dodsworth (1936)
  Double Indemnity (1944)
  Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
  Drunken Master II (1994)
  E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
  8 1/2 (1963)
  The 400 Blows (1959)
  Farewell My Concubine (1993)
  Finding Nemo (2003)
  The Fly (1986)
  The Godfather, Parts I and II (1972, 1974)
  The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (1966)
  Goodfellas (1990)
  A Hard Day's Night (1964)
  His Girl Friday (1940)
  Ikiru (1952)
  In A Lonely Place (1950)
  Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
  It's A Gift (1934)
  It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
  Kandahar (2001)
  Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949)
  King Kong (1933)
  The Lady Eve (1941)
  The Last Command (1928)
  Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
  Léolo (1992)
  The Lord of the Rings (2001-03)
  The Man With a Camera (1929)
  The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
  Meet Me in St. Louis (1944)
  Metropolis (1927)
  Miller's Crossing (1990)
  Mon oncle d'Amérique (1980)
  Mouchette (1967)
  Nayakan (1987)
  Ninotchka (1939)
  Notorious (1946)
  Olympia, Parts 1 and 2 (1938)
  On the Waterfront (1954)
  Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
  Out of the Past (1947)
  Persona (1966)
  Pinocchio (1940)
  Psycho (1960)
  Pulp Fiction (1994)
  The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)
  Pyaasa (1957)
  Raging Bull (1980)
  Schindler's List (1993)
  The Searchers (1956)
  Sherlock, Jr. (1924)
  The Shop Around the Corner (1940)
  Singin' in the Rain (1952)
  The Singing Detective (1986)
  Smiles of a Summer Night (1955)
  Some Like It Hot (1959)
  Star Wars (1977)
  A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
  Sunrise (1927)
  Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
  Swing Time (1936)
  Talk to Her (2002)
  Taxi Driver (1976)
  Tokyo Story (1953)
  A Touch of Zen (1971)
  Ugetsu (1953)
  Ulysses' Gaze (1995)
  Umberto D (1952)
  Unforgiven (1992)
  White Heat (1949)
  Wings of Desire (1987)
  Yojimbo (1961)

[Sylvus]

Is Wings of Desire that German movie about the angel that falls in love with someone? I only vaguely remember it, except that I kind of hated it. iirc, there was like a Meg Ryan American remake of it.

I disagree with that list, but mostly I think because they give too much credit to movies that were made pre-1960.

Some good movies there, though!

[Winnow]

Where's The Princess Bride?

Whenever I see a fan poll of favorite movies, that one always ranks near the top. I see it mentioned time and time again.

[Zamtuk]

didnt think i would see millers crossing up there. fucking great movie.

[Nick]

I disagree with that list, but mostly I think because they give too much credit to movies that were made pre-1960.

What Sylvus said.

But these things are never going to appease everyone.

[Animalor]

Finding Nemo (2003)

wtf?

[Aslanna]

I disagree with that list, but mostly I think because they give too much credit to movies that were made pre-1960.

What Sylvus said.

But these things are never going to appease everyone.

Agreed. Although that wont stop people from complaining about items that make a list and bitching about those that didn't.

[Sylvus]

Okay, here's one that I never saw that is on that list, and it surprises me.

A Hard Day's Night.

Is that actually a good movie, from a non-fanboy perspective?

[Hesten]

Drunken Master II (1994) ?

I havent seen most of the movies ot he list, theyre older than me, but that one at least jump straight in my eye. WHAT is that doing there?

[Winnow]

Drunken Master II (1994) ?

I havent seen most of the movies ot he list, theyre older than me, but that one at least jump straight in my eye. WHAT is that doing there?

Yeah that one beats out Titanic which didn't make the list.

and Lion King > Finding Nemo if an animated movie needed to make the list.

[Ennia]

I've only seen 30 of that list and recognize maybe another 10-15, no wonder though, this list is made by 2 critics, not any viewer poll or sales or any other sort of popularity thing

[Winnow]

Movies are too subjective to have a few critics rate the best 100 movies and be serious about it.

I think a top 100 movies list is as silly as a top 500 songs of all time list. I like having "recommended" movie lists though. I doubt anyone elses list would include more than half of those 100 movies with the amount of quality movies made over the years if they were asked to make a list without seeing this one first.

Drolgin was baiting us!

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

Yeah that one beats out Titanic which didn't make the list.

and Lion King > Finding Nemo if an animated movie needed to make the list.

In no way, shape or form does Titanic deserve to make the top 100 movies. And I'd say that Finding Nemo was a fantastic movie - and yeah, better than Lion King. There are plenty of movies I disagree with (and a ton of movies I've never heard of) on that list, but I can't fault them for sticking Nemo in there. As far as Drunken Master 2...no idea what they were smoking.

[Truant]

Titanic isn't even good enough for me to take a shit on.

[Niffoni]

Old movies are so great. Because they're old. Old stuff is always better than new stuff. Look how smart I am for liking old things. Old stuff is smarter because it's old.

Bah. People who like old movies need a good sackpunch. Watch them again and realize that they suck as bad as new ones, they just have worse picture quality.

[Truant]

Are you trying to tell me that The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, or the first two Godfather movies suck? Because I'll kill you right now.


I will.

[Xzion]

Old movies are so great. Because they're old. Old stuff is always better than new stuff. Look how smart I am for liking old things. Old stuff is smarter because it's old.

Bah. People who like old movies need a good sackpunch. Watch them again and realize that they suck as bad as new ones, they just have worse picture quality.

and for the most part the acting is much much worse, very overdone, specially female roles

the good the bad and the ugly is a masterpeice though! i personally would put it barely above godfather, nothing overcomes that

[Winnow]

You've got to give popular movies like Titanic their due. I enjoyed the movie. Special effects, soundtrack (as much as I hate that skinny french lady, the song was still appropriate for the movie), acting was good for an action/adventure movie. Not Oscar winning but is any performance in Star Wars even remotely close to oscar winning? Star Wars has some of the worst acting on record. It's the story that drives it along with effects. The same goes for Titanic. It goes in my top 100 ranked over half of the Star Wars movies (you can guess which three or four).

You can't overlook the popular movies thinking something's wrong with them because a certain actor is in them or they become so popular that it's cool not to like them.

Titanic > Drunken Master II any day of the week.

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

Drunken Master II and not Drunken Master I?

[Momopi]

And I'd say that Finding Nemo was a fantastic movie - and yeah, better than Lion King.

No.

was this list made by 2 guys who are at least 65 years old?

[Kelgar]

The Fly? WTF!

[Winnow]

For comparison, here's the top 100 ranked movies from the Internet Movie Database. I like this list a little better as several thousand and sometimes 100K+ people voted on them. Would you match more movies from your personal top 100 from this list? (Titanic didn't make this list either! : )

Rank Rating Title Votes
1. 9.0 The Godfather (1972) 124,055
2. 9.0 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 150,940
3. 8.9 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 105,318
4. 8.9 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 71,996
5. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 32,517
6. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993) 98,420
7. 8.8 Casablanca (1942) 66,477
8. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 137,038
9. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 158,902
10. 8.7 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 105,779
11. 8.7 Pulp Fiction (1994) 134,035
12. 8.7 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 70,764
13. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 115,984
14. 8.7 Citizen Kane (1941) 61,479
15. 8.7 Rear Window (1954) 41,363
16. 8.6 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 30,582
17. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 63,938
18. 8.6 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 94,241
19. 8.6 The Usual Suspects (1995) 104,576
20. 8.6 12 Angry Men (1957) 29,587
21. 8.6 Cidade de Deus (2002) 26,456
22. 8.6 Memento (2000) 91,051
23. 8.6 North by Northwest (1959) 35,893
24. 8.5 C'era una volta il West (1968) 17,443
25. 8.5 Psycho (1960) 54,290
26. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 31,455
27. 8.5 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 41,468
28. 8.5 Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001) 60,179
29. 8.5 Goodfellas (1990) 68,824
30. 8.5 The Silence of the Lambs (1991) 92,641
31. 8.5 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 16,286
32. 8.5 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 47,260
33. 8.5 American Beauty (1999) 110,756
34. 8.4 Vertigo (1958) 34,125
35. 8.4 The Matrix (1999) 144,969
36. 8.4 Apocalypse Now (1979) 65,286
37. 8.4 Fight Club (1999) 113,110
38. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 30,337
39. 8.4 Paths of Glory (1957) 14,523
40. 8.4 The Pianist (2002) 30,882
41. 8.4 The Third Man (1949) 18,526
42. 8.4 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) 24,592
43. 8.4 Taxi Driver (1976) 48,291
44. 8.4 Singin' in the Rain (1952) 20,711
45. 8.4 Boot, Das (1981) 29,109
46. 8.3 Double Indemnity (1944) 11,665
47. 8.3 M (1931) 12,137
48. 8.3 Se7en (1995) 89,087
49. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959) 25,553
50. 8.3 Chinatown (1974) 25,867
51. 8.3 Rashômon (1950) 11,757
52. 8.3 Requiem for a Dream (2000) 48,354
53. 8.3 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) 22,569
54. 8.3 L.A. Confidential (1997) 70,009
55. 8.3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 61,056
56. 8.3 The Maltese Falcon (1941) 19,551
57. 8.3 All About Eve (1950) 13,130
58. 8.3 Léon (1994) 53,483
59. 8.3 Raging Bull (1980) 26,980
60. 8.3 Modern Times (1936) 10,399
61. 8.3 American History X (1998) 60,255
62. 8.3 Alien (1979) 63,850
63. 8.3 Saving Private Ryan (1998) 100,986
64. 8.2 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) 10,541
65. 8.2 Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) 65,909
66. 8.2 A Clockwork Orange (1971) 65,796
67. 8.2 The Sting (1973) 23,843
68. 8.2 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) 11,648
69. 8.2 The Manchurian Candidate (1962) 14,342
70. 8.2 On the Waterfront (1954) 12,907
71. 8.2 Amadeus (1984) 37,202
72. 8.2 The Wizard of Oz (1939) 38,647
73. 8.2 Reservoir Dogs (1992) 69,852
74. 8.2 Vita è bella, La (1997) 38,234
75. 8.2 Ran (1985) 12,094
76. 8.2 City Lights (1931) 7,867
77. 8.2 The Great Escape (1963) 20,284
78. 8.2 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 65,390
79. 8.2 Touch of Evil (1958) 11,824
80. 8.2 The Apartment (1960) 11,307
81. 8.2 Million Dollar Baby (2004) 20,885
82. 8.2 Metropolis (1927) 12,086
83. 8.2 Sjunde inseglet, Det (1957) 9,743
84. 8.2 The Shining (1980) 51,345
85. 8.2 Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004) 44,952
86. 8.2 Aliens (1986) 64,402
87. 8.2 The Great Dictator (1940) 10,565
88. 8.2 Jaws (1975) 47,321
89. 8.2 Hotel Rwanda (2004) 9,022
90. 8.2 Strangers on a Train (1951) 10,717
91. 8.2 Braveheart (1995) 93,093
92. 8.2 Finding Nemo (2003) 42,408
93. 8.2 High Noon (1952) 12,560
94. 8.2 Nuovo cinema Paradiso (1989) 14,147
95. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977) 21,639
96. 8.2 The Incredibles (2004) 31,693
97. 8.2 The General (1927) 6,689
98. 8.2 Fargo (1996) 65,977
99. 8.2 Donnie Darko (2001) 52,725
100. 8.1 Oldboy (2003) 9,437

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

For comparison, here's the top 100 ranked movies from the Internet Movie Database. I like this list a little better as several thousand and sometimes 100K+ people voted on them. Would you match more movies from your personal top 100 from this list? (Titanic didn't make this list either! : )

Here's my edited version of the IMDB best of list with the UNDESERVING removed - personal, biased and all that shit. Not going into individual ranking, just removing the ones I don't want on it.

And yeah Momopi, Nemo > Lion King. Sorry. I win.

1. 9.0 The Godfather (1972) 124,055
3. 8.9 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 105,318
4. 8.9 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 71,996
5. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 32,517
6. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993) 98,420
7. 8.8 Casablanca (1942) 66,477
8. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 137,038
9. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 158,902
10. 8.7 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 105,779
11. 8.7 Pulp Fiction (1994) 134,035
12. 8.7 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 70,764
13. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 115,984
14. 8.7 Citizen Kane (1941) 61,479
15. 8.7 Rear Window (1954) 41,363
16. 8.6 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 30,582
17. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 63,938
18. 8.6 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 94,241
19. 8.6 The Usual Suspects (1995) 104,576
20. 8.6 12 Angry Men (1957) 29,587
21. 8.6 Cidade de Deus (2002) 26,456
23. 8.6 North by Northwest (1959) 35,893
24. 8.5 C'era una volta il West (1968) 17,443
25. 8.5 Psycho (1960) 54,290
26. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 31,455
27. 8.5 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 41,468
29. 8.5 Goodfellas (1990) 68,824
30. 8.5 The Silence of the Lambs (1991) 92,641
31. 8.5 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 16,286
32. 8.5 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 47,260
33. 8.5 American Beauty (1999) 110,756
34. 8.4 Vertigo (1958) 34,125
36. 8.4 Apocalypse Now (1979) 65,286
37. 8.4 Fight Club (1999) 113,110
38. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 30,337
39. 8.4 Paths of Glory (1957) 14,523
41. 8.4 The Third Man (1949) 18,526
42. 8.4 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) 24,592
43. 8.4 Taxi Driver (1976) 48,291
44. 8.4 Singin' in the Rain (1952) 20,711
45. 8.4 Boot, Das (1981) 29,109
46. 8.3 Double Indemnity (1944) 11,665
47. 8.3 M (1931) 12,137
48. 8.3 Se7en (1995) 89,087
49. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959) 25,553
50. 8.3 Chinatown (1974) 25,867
51. 8.3 Rashômon (1950) 11,757
53. 8.3 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) 22,569
54. 8.3 L.A. Confidential (1997) 70,009
55. 8.3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 61,056
56. 8.3 The Maltese Falcon (1941) 19,551
57. 8.3 All About Eve (1950) 13,130
59. 8.3 Raging Bull (1980) 26,980
60. 8.3 Modern Times (1936) 10,399
61. 8.3 American History X (1998) 60,255
62. 8.3 Alien (1979) 63,850
63. 8.3 Saving Private Ryan (1998) 100,986
64. 8.2 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) 10,541
65. 8.2 Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) 65,909
66. 8.2 A Clockwork Orange (1971) 65,796
67. 8.2 The Sting (1973) 23,843
68. 8.2 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) 11,648
69. 8.2 The Manchurian Candidate (1962) 14,342
70. 8.2 On the Waterfront (1954) 12,907
71. 8.2 Amadeus (1984) 37,202
72. 8.2 The Wizard of Oz (1939) 38,647
73. 8.2 Reservoir Dogs (1992) 69,852
74. 8.2 Vita è bella, La (1997) 38,234
75. 8.2 Ran (1985) 12,094
76. 8.2 City Lights (1931) 7,867
77. 8.2 The Great Escape (1963) 20,284
78. 8.2 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 65,390
79. 8.2 Touch of Evil (1958) 11,824
80. 8.2 The Apartment (1960) 11,307
82. 8.2 Metropolis (1927) 12,086
83. 8.2 Sjunde inseglet, Det (1957) 9,743
84. 8.2 The Shining (1980) 51,345
86. 8.2 Aliens (1986) 64,402
87. 8.2 The Great Dictator (1940) 10,565
88. 8.2 Jaws (1975) 47,321
89. 8.2 Hotel Rwanda (2004) 9,022
90. 8.2 Strangers on a Train (1951) 10,717
92. 8.2 Finding Nemo (2003) 42,408
93. 8.2 High Noon (1952) 12,560
94. 8.2 Nuovo cinema Paradiso (1989) 14,147
95. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977) 21,639
96. 8.2 The Incredibles (2004) 31,693
97. 8.2 The General (1927) 6,689
98. 8.2 Fargo (1996) 65,977

[Winnow]

Here's my edited version of the IMDB best of list with the UNDESERVING removed - personal, biased and all that shit. Not going into individual ranking, just removing the ones I don't want on it.

You didn't Shawshank?...not Shawshank! That movie was brilliant. It's a lock for my top 5.

[Niffoni]

NOTHING > The Lion King! RAWR!

But Nemo was pretty cool

[miir]

Not much I would add, or remove from that list, Winnow. Eventhough it is a bit biased towards more recent movies.

Here's my edited version of the IMDB best of list with the UNDESERVING removed - personal, biased and all that shit. Not going into individual ranking, just removing the ones I don't want on it.

I guess you haven't seen Requiem for a Dream.... otherwise it would have made the (your) cut.

[Winnow]

Not much I would add, or remove from that list, Winnow. Eventhough it is a bit biased towards more recent movies.

Here's my edited version of the IMDB best of list with the UNDESERVING removed - personal, biased and all that shit. Not going into individual ranking, just removing the ones I don't want on it.

I guess you haven't seen Requiem for a Dream.... otherwise it would have made the (your) cut.

It appears to have some foreign films that I've never heard of that were ranked high. I'd have to see those or remove them from the list.

There's also a popularity factor here. The little Indies won't get much recognition. Comedy gets the cold shoulder. Office Space and Super Troopers need to be in the to represent that category!

[Canelek]

Glad to see Miller's Crossing up there. However, there is no jackie chan movie that deserves a part of that list, lol.

As far as Titanic goes, that movies was about as interesting as watching buzzards pick away at a bloated beaver carcass.

[Kilmoll the Sexy]

Where in the hell is Full Metal Jacket? And by the way....Shrek > Nemo.

And Drolgin.....what the hell is wrong with you to remove Pulp Fiction? That is pure sacrilege and you could be killed for it.

[Ransure]

Remove Pulp Fiction? but leave The Incredibles?... while I really liked the incredibles, OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS more than most... It doesnt make it into my mind when I think of the best movies of all time...

Oh, and WTF is up with no "Transformers the Movie"... fuck that!

[Nick]

FUK U TITANIC

[Winnow]

FUK U TITANIC

*sings*

neeeeeaarrrr...faaaarrrrr...whereeeeeeever..you arrrrrrre!1!!

[Momopi]

Man, you guys have no love for Lion King... The animation was top notch, the songs were good and the voices were just perfect along with a great story. There isnt many Disney movies that can approach this on every level and I really don't think Disney ever came close to that movie in greatness before or after it. Atlantis was pretty good though. Nemo was really great but its no Lion King. As far as comedy goes I would like to weigh in with Friday as one of the best!

[Sylvus]

I'm not going to lie to you guys, I cried the first time I watched Lion King.

It may have been because I sat on my balls, though.

[Funkmasterr]

reading the list (the first one particularily) reminded me of a series of 2 film classes I took in high school. In this wonderful class, I got to see some of the worst movies ever filmed, ie: gone with the wind, a streetcar named desire, on the waterfront... I know im forgetting a few. Point being, old movies suck, and the only reason they make these lists is because it reminds the people writing the lists of when they were in their prime. The thing that bothers me most about the actors/actresses in the older movies is that they all trained to have their voices sound exactly the same... not sure what is up with that.

[Niffoni]

If I don't see "Secret of the Ooze" on a top 100 list soon, someone's getting a lead salad!

[Xzion]

what was so great about casablanca? all i saw was shitty overdone acting and a boring plot

[Momopi]

Citizen Kane is the most over rated movie ever since its considered by most critics to be the best movie of all time. I tried watching that with an open mind and just found it to be very boring and dry. Am I missing something about this movie possibly?

[miir]

In this wonderful class, I got to see some of the worst movies ever filmed, ie: gone with the wind, a streetcar named desire, on the waterfront... I know im forgetting a few. Point being, old movies suck, and the only reason they make these lists is because it reminds the people writing the lists of when they were in their prime. The

Or perhaps you're not mature enough to appreciate old movies.

[Momopi]

Actually, On the waterfront was an excellent movie. Marlon Brando in his prime could easily hold his own if compared to the current stars of today. The point of older movies versus movies today is that the strength of the movie totally relied on the actors themselves where today you can have bad acting and still have a successful movie as long as the special effects are upto par.

[Truant]

Brando was a fucking GOD in Streetcar.

[Nick]

I agree with u Momo (hi btw ) about Citizen Kane, what the fuck makes people go all stiff about that film? I never understood it.

As for finding Nemo versus the Lion King. Wow that is a tough call.
The lion king is a legendary film, great script, great music, haaakuna matata etc.

Finding Nemo was my favourite of the new animated films (like Toy Story/Shrek etc) by a long way.

I would not want to have to choose which one I preferred. For epic status - The Lion King wins, for comedy and eyecandy finding Nemo gets it.

[Sueven]

OK first of all, Aladdin is better than the Lion King hands down.

Winnow, I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time. Super Troopers and Office Space definitely belong on there, but they belong there at the expense of overrated crap like Star Wars and Titanic. I might put A New Hope on a list like this, but only for its influence, not for its quality.

[Winnow]

OK first of all, Aladdin is better than the Lion King hands down.

Winnow, I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time. Super Troopers and Office Space definitely belong on there, but they belong there at the expense of overrated crap like Star Wars and Titanic. I might put A New Hope on a list like this, but only for its influence, not for its quality.

I agree with only putting the original Star Wars on the list. I think perhaps comedy needs it's own top 100. Actually when it comes down to it, drama, action, suspense, etc should all be separate top 100's. You never really see a top 100 song list unless it's for a particular genre...Mozart doesn't go head to head with U2 as they would have to if they were movies on this list. I've watched Office Space more than almost all the movies on that list but it's still hard to say it's better in anything other than the laugh department.

[Funkmasterr]

Or perhaps you're not mature enough to appreciate old movies.

Thanks for your opinion Miir, It means more to me then you could ever imagine, as usual......

If a streetcar named desire (for example) was remade today I can garuntee you I would still not like it. Not because I lack the maturity to wrap my hands around the blanket thin plot, but because I don't like the movie - period.

I agree that to be a classic old movie that people still watch, it needed to have impecable acting, because they did not have special effects, or the advanced film editing they have now, but I do not feel this or any of the movies I named have that quality. Yes, Marlon Brando was a great actor, but I did not like this movie, which had nothing to do with him being in it.

[Canelek]

Movies such as His Girl Friday and Citizen Kane are remembered for their advancements in CHC(Classical Hollywood Cinema) evolution. for instance, citizen Kane brought about new techniques in panning as well as diageses--both HUGE innovations in directorial advancement. CK, Sunset BLVD and Touch of Evil were also innovative movies in what was to become 'Film Noir'.

I understand why some folks would not understand or be entertained by such things. This is mostly for people who love film and its history. Film history is mainly the study of technique--not the accomplishments of an actor/actress. The director and/or cinematographer was always more important--and still is in many modern movies.

I suppose it is in many ways these days like giving a lesson in jazz history to someone who thinks green day and blink 182 are really really cool. So, there lies a difference between art and entertainment.

[Ransure]

Miir, I just got your title... they named that movie after me

[Momopi]

OK first of all, Aladdin is better than the Lion King hands down.

Winnow, I agree with you and disagree with you at the same time. Super Troopers and Office Space definitely belong on there, but they belong there at the expense of overrated crap like Star Wars and Titanic. I might put A New Hope on a list like this, but only for its influence, not for its quality.

Why would you say that A New Hope isnt quality? This movie came out in 1977 and when it did there was nothing like it that has ever been released. You saying it isnt quality when its stacked up to movies of present day? The special effects were god like at the time and the story was very in depth. The acting wasnt the greatest thing in the world but it was good enough to get the point across and enhance the storyline. This is easily the greatest storyline that hollywood has ever seen.

[Xzion]

yeha i agree with star wars, it was released on a LOW budget and the effects were beyond anything of its time, it was brilliant in that perspective (the only thing that was HORRIBLE was the obi wan darth vader lightsaber choreography

[Kwonryu DragonFist]

Citizen Kane is the most over rated movie ever since its considered by most critics to be the best movie of all time. I tried watching that with an open mind and just found it to be very boring and dry. Am I missing something about this movie possibly?

Agree! They showed that movie in my Multimedia and Communications class and said, this is the most important movie for communications ever!

It suxxored!